Yesterday evening I did a soft reset - the only thing I had installed yesterday was vTap but when I came to the password screen (simple 4 digit password which I have used for years) it would not accept it - I kept on getting 'The password you have typed is invalid'
After trying a few times and rebooting and trying various other numbers (eg 0000 etc) I gave up and had to do a hard reset.
Not sure if it was vTap, the new ROM or something completely different - has anyone else had anything similar?
Locked Password screen
My locked last night after installing Remote desktop client. No amount of resets has unlocked it.
I found this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-328022.html
which indicates that there is a bug in the locking program ( major bug )
The solution offered will probably only work after a hard reset is done. I dont want to do that, unless the ram is backed up. Anyone any ideas.
Thanks
Dave
Thanks for the info. This happened to me and a buddy and we got locked out. Had to hard reset and never used the password protection again.
Funny thing,
yesterday, I got exactly the same problem too!
But it is neither the fault of vTap (which I hadn't installed at that time)
nor the fault of BlackTouch (because it also happened to me with one of the first WM6 Roms)
I currently have disabled the password,
but I consider trying out a stand-alone passkey program
I have re-installed vTap with no problem - glad I have, it's brilliant!
Bit cocerning about the password tho - but luckily nothing to do with vTap!
Confucious said:
I have re-installed vTap with no problem - glad I have, it's brilliant!
Bit cocerning about the password tho - but luckily nothing to do with vTap!
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The password thing is a known WM6 issue that can and has happened on any ROM. Happened to me on stock ROM when I upgraded to WM6.
OK, my battery went flat yesterday, charged it overnight and would it let me in this morning? Like heck it would.
The simple password is all I need but can't use it iff it does this.
At least it gave me a chance to change my Radio to 1.47 to see if that improves battery life!
The fun we have!
Yep, finally have the phone set up just the way I want it, flat battery and bang no entry... Is anyone using a good 3rd party app? I have to use pin inorder to connect to company email.
TwoPlus1 said:
I have to use pin inorder to connect to company email.
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We're not talking about the pin of our SIM cards,
but about the pin of the device (device lock)
I'm not sure exactly where this goes, but I think it belongs here and I haven't been able to find any other threads about this issue.
It's going to seem like a WinMo issue, but I'm pretty sure it's Android related.
I have a ATT Tilt2 with a stock ROM (I think with Sense 2.5) that I recently (last week) installed FRX06 on top of an older BLAZN install that I hadn't tried in months.
Today, I shut down Android (properly) and turned the phone on to return to WinMo. On the 4 digit numeric PIN screen (I Activesync with Exchange at work and this is part of the security requirement; it's not the SIM or GSM PIN), I enter my pin and ... I get an error message that I've entered the wrong PIN and I just used 1 of 8 turns. I tried carefully to enter the PIN to make sure I didn't fat finger the button - strike 2. So, I open the keyboard to try using that, and still no dice. Now I'm worried about getting my device wiped and starting from scratch.
The reason I think this is Android related is that this has happened to me one other time. This problem was the main reason I stopped using BLAZN about 6 months ago. In the almost 2 years that I've had this phone, this hasn't happened when rebooting from WinMo back into WinMo.
Any suggestions or ideas about what's going on? I don't even want to touch my phone without having a plan of attack. My contacts are backed up (first thing I did before I installed FRX06), but would rather not have to re-install stuff if I don't have to.
By the way, until this little incident, Android had been running great - it's been a big improvement over where it was 6 months ago.
Thanks in advance for any help.
-David
LeStone08 said:
I have a ATT Tilt2 with a stock ROM (I think with Sense 2.5) that I recently (last week) installed FRX06 on top of an older BLAZN install that I hadn't tried in months.
Thanks in advance for any help.
-David
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I think you need to rename/delete your data.img.
But first you need a real fresh start so don't install FRX06 on top of BLAZN. Delete the old and download the FRX06 package from the thread
Thanks for the reply. Those are some good suggestions in general, but doesn't address my immediate need: Is there any way to get past the PIN check now (maybe the PIN was reset to some default)? Or is there an explanation for what is going on? AS it is, there's nothing I can do with the phone if I don't get the PIN correct (can't reboot into Android).
Also, in order to get FRX06 to work, I did delete the data.img file, so that is fresh. Also, the first time a few months ago, I ran into this problem was on my original (clean) install of BLAZN. Until this problem happened, Android had been working great in most other respects.
You're not supposed to use PIN auth in WinMo if you want to use Android.
Although, that type of PIN should work, I wouldn't use it. So if your work requires it, I'd say don't use Android.
I wish I could help more, my company uses GroupWise and only allows BB's to connect...
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You're not supposed to use PIN auth in WinMo if you want to use Android.
Although, that type of PIN should work, I wouldn't use it. So if your work requires it, I'd say don't use Android.
I wish I could help more, my company uses GroupWise and only allows BB's to connect...
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I don't know why PIN auth in WinMo would have anything to do with Android, and I know I never had any problems with my WinMo pin while running android. While I can't say for certain that Android wouldn't do anything to your WinMo PIN, I would put the likelyhood at .0000001%. It simply doesn't touch the built in storage. Android is run straight from the SD card, and WinMo doesn't store your PIN on the SD card, so the chance of any funny business between the two is very low. Someone who knows the ins and outs of the NAND better than I would probably tell you it is impossible for Android to write to NAND, seeing as how there was so much work that went into the NAND testing.
Long story short, it wasn't Android. Maybe someone is playing a joke on you.
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I don't know why PIN auth in WinMo would have anything to do with Android, and I know I never had any problems with my WinMo pin while running android. While I can't say for certain that Android wouldn't do anything to your WinMo PIN, I would put the likelyhood at .0000001%. It simply doesn't touch the built in storage. Android is run straight from the SD card, and WinMo doesn't store your PIN on the SD card, so the chance of any funny business between the two is very low. Someone who knows the ins and outs of the NAND better than I would probably tell you it is impossible for Android to write to NAND, seeing as how there was so much work that went into the NAND testing.
Long story short, it wasn't Android. Maybe someone is playing a joke on you.
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Normally, I wouldn't think Android would impact my winMo setup. But this has only happened to my twice and both times occured after shutting down Android and rebooting the phone.
No one else has access to my phone - so I can't blame anyone else.
I did install the trial version of Touchdown in my Android installation, but I don't think that's part of the problem (the last time it happened, I used the standard Exchange functionality of Android).
Could the policies enforced by Exchange cause my WinMo PIN to reset when I registered the new Android connectivity? When I set up Touchdown, I used the same PIN that I set for WinMO.
Thanks for the comments. Looking for any suggestions to get the phone up without getting it wiped (any default PINS that I can try?).
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Could the policies enforced by Exchange cause my WinMo PIN to reset when I registered the new Android connectivity? When I set up Touchdown, I used the same PIN that I set for WinMO.
Thanks for the comments. Looking for any suggestions to get the phone up without getting it wiped (any default PINS that I can try?).
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These are questions for your IT dept I would think...
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I don't know why PIN auth in WinMo would have anything to do with Android, and I know I never had any problems with my WinMo pin while running android. While I can't say for certain that Android wouldn't do anything to your WinMo PIN, I would put the likelyhood at .0000001%. It simply doesn't touch the built in storage. Android is run straight from the SD card, and WinMo doesn't store your PIN on the SD card, so the chance of any funny business between the two is very low. Someone who knows the ins and outs of the NAND better than I would probably tell you it is impossible for Android to write to NAND, seeing as how there was so much work that went into the NAND testing.
Long story short, it wasn't Android. Maybe someone is playing a joke on you.
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I would agree with rpierce99. I use MS Exchange (2007) on both wm & frx06 with password policy enforced and never experienced this issue. I chose to use a 6 digit numeric pin on both OS.
I remember having this issue. Pissed me off beyond belief. Same thing happened, booted out of android, when I tried unlocking, it kept saying the password was incorrect. For some reason I can't remember what I did to fix it... I think I just did a forced hard reset (click reset button, hold send key + end key + power key all at once). I know it's not what you want to hear but hard reset might be the only/quickest fix.
If it's asking for a SIM PIN, then this isn't related to Android, and it's not a Win-Mo issue either. It's the PIN for your SIM card as it's always been - or someone's changed it on you (they need to know your old one first)
3? Wrong guesses on a PIN and you get a PUK lock. (Pin Unblock Key)
The PUK is provided to you from your mobile provider. 10 wrong goes of this and you brick your SIM permanently, and you'll need a new one.
PIN and PUK aren't supported in Android to my knowledge, and Win-Mo will only allow you to change the PIN if you knew the old one as I said. I don't know of any "hacks" that can up-and-change it.
Lastly, there's good old device "lock". I had this corrupt on my TP2 end of last year causing me a huge headache and a hard reset. I was NOT using Android at this time.
Hope that helps in some way.
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If it's asking for a SIM PIN, then this isn't related to Android, and it's not a Win-Mo issue either. It's the PIN for your SIM card as it's always been - or someone's changed it on you (they need to know your old one first)
3? Wrong guesses on a PIN and you get a PUK lock. (Pin Unblock Key)
The PUK is provided to you from your mobile provider. 10 wrong goes of this and you brick your SIM permanently, and you'll need a new one.
PIN and PUK aren't supported in Android to my knowledge, and Win-Mo will only allow you to change the PIN if you knew the old one as I said. I don't know of any "hacks" that can up-and-change it.
Lastly, there's good old device "lock". I had this corrupt on my TP2 end of last year causing me a huge headache and a hard reset. I was NOT using Android at this time.
Hope that helps in some way.
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Nah, his first post specifies it wasn't a SIM or GSM lock. I believe he had the Winmo lock go crazy on him like me. You say you had it too but not with android... I think my battery was very low at the time, I have no idea if that has anything to do with it. Was your battery fairly low/close to dying?
Nah not at the time. But I ran a tweak program and set a setting that botched it - I think. I was never tempted to try again to find out though.
Also on a side note, just tested the latest updates today, "PIN incorrect" when trying to unlock in Android. Works in WinMo. Removing PIN on startup again until it's fixed. (bummer!)
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Nah, his first post specifies it wasn't a SIM or GSM lock. I believe he had the Winmo lock go crazy on him like me. You say you had it too but not with android... I think my battery was very low at the time, I have no idea if that has anything to do with it. Was your battery fairly low/close to dying?
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You're right, it wasn't my SIM lock that was causing the problem. I don't remember if my battery was low or dying. I do know that the last thing I had running was the Youtube app that was having problems with buffering a video, then it started getting non-responsive, which was why I decided to shut down my phone and reboot.
I checked with our IT department and besides them trying not to support it because it's not an eye-phone, there were no known MS Exchange changes at our company that would have caused the problem. I did find out that the webmail client for Exchange now shows the clients that connected - I could see a listing for my WinMo install and a couple for my Android install (my original install from 6 months ago, and my current install - the different builds had different system names). There is a feature to request a recovery PIN there, but my HTC Sense simple PIN entry screen didn't have a recovery pin option that's needed - or I didn't see it in the last try I had to get my PIN correct. Maybe I'll play with that more if I start using WinMo again.
My phone did get wiped and so far, I haven't loaded anything back into WinMo - I've been running off my Android install (didn't reinstall - since my SD Card didn't get wiped) for the last 1.5 weeks.
I know it's not a large sample size, but the two times this has happened in the almost 2 year time period that I've had this phone occurred when booting out of Android. I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one with this issue, but it would be nice to have the problem diagnosed.
I'm hoping that one of the brains doing all of this cool stuff will find the root cause and show us (at least me and Slapshot) how to avoid the problem.
Thanks. I'm still really happy about the state of the Rhodium projects.
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Nah not at the time. But I ran a tweak program and set a setting that botched it - I think. I was never tempted to try again to find out though.
Also on a side note, just tested the latest updates today, "PIN incorrect" when trying to unlock in Android. Works in WinMo. Removing PIN on startup again until it's fixed. (bummer!)
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I've never set any type of PIN on my Android phones. What are you setting?
On any phone you can set it to "Request PIN on startup" and it will ask you for the SIM's PIN. (This is SIM dependant, I don't know if it works for CDMA).
Traditionally, it would boot up the phone fine, but won't activate the SIM until the PIN is entered, once that's entered and the SIM unlocks, it'll logon to the 3G network and work normally.
In XDAndroid, if I try to enter my PIN, it says it's incorrect (works fine in WinMo), but I did read somewhere that it wasn't supported, and it has to be left off. I don't like doing this, but no choice really!
Want to troubleshoot this issue too?
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On any phone you can set it to "Request PIN on startup" and it will ask you for the SIM's PIN. (This is SIM dependant, I don't know if it works for CDMA).
Traditionally, it would boot up the phone fine, but won't activate the SIM until the PIN is entered, once that's entered and the SIM unlocks, it'll logon to the 3G network and work normally.
In XDAndroid, if I try to enter my PIN, it says it's incorrect (works fine in WinMo), but I did read somewhere that it wasn't supported, and it has to be left off. I don't like doing this, but no choice really!
Want to troubleshoot this issue too?
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I'll take your word on the SIM PIN business, as I've never actually set my SIM pin. I wouldn't do this in general, but also especially knowing that there's a conflict between SIM pins and the XDAndroid projects.
In WinMo (I believe there's a way to do this an Android also, but not quite sure), there are two ways that I know of to set up a startup PIN on your phone (at least on my Tilt2):
1) You can go into Settings, Security, Phone Lock: here you can set up your phone to lock itself after a set amount of time. You can use either a Simple PIN or a strong alpha-numeric PIN. Whenever your phone is idle for a time period exceeding the threshold you have set, the phone will lock itself so that you have to enter your PIN to access the phone again. Again, this is not the SIM pin.
2) Some of us work at companies that use this little email package called Exchange by a company called Microsoft . In order to protect employee's and (mostly) company data, some of these companies will leverage security features in Exchange to mandatorily set policies on any mobile devices that want to access the corporate email system. If you want access to the system, you have to accept whatever policies the company chooses to enforce. Some of these policies include: 1) Requiring a PIN (not a SIM pin) on your device; 2) requiring a max idle time before the phone locks itself; 3) requiring a phone reset (including data wipe) after a certain number of missed passwords; 4) allowing a phone wipe/clear on demand in case of theft; etc. My company requires all of these - there are more, but I'm not familiar with all of the options.
When I boot into Windows Mobile, Exchange sees my phone as one device and sets the policies accordingly (basically the email software has to be able to receive the policies and interpret them). When I boot into XDAndroid, Exchange sees my phone as a different device and sends the same set of polices. For my original problem, I set the PIN to be the same for both instances to make like easy for my tiny little brain.
I reiterate that this is not a SIM pin issue. I want to make it clear so we can keep this thread on topic in case anyone else has some insights into the problem. I don't want it to be derailed into a SIM PIN discussion since I'm sure there are lots of threads about that. (Now, I've probably polluted the index with that term and anyone looking for that will find this instead )
I would love to know if anyone gets any insights here.
Thanks for reading.
David
Yes I see what you mean now, and my issue is a different one (SIM not device PIN).
Since your work is issuing device policies, my thought would be it's a policy issue, and quite honestly, I wouldn't try and mess around with a device that's under I.T. direction.
Having said that, i'd likely say your problem is a corrupted WinMo password as Android has nothing whatsever to do with WinMo's side of things. And as mentioned before, it can happen with varying (mainly unknown - grr) reasons why.
By setting a lock pattern/pin, you protect your personal information. But it seems if the phone is lost, you've made it impossible for the person who found it, to find you.
I have here a lost Android phone. Now I'm trying to find out who the owner is, however I can't get it unlocked.
My questions is, is there any way to bypass this lock screen without resetting the whole phone?
The official recovery method is to log in to the phones Google account, which I obviously can't do. I'm aware of methods such as booting into recovery, wiping/reflashing etc. but that would wipe out any means of finding the owner.
There's no SD card on this particular model to pop out and look for clues on.
If there's no way around the lock without wiping, then I guess I have to keep the phone .
Take it into one of the retail stores for the carrier and they can return it to the owner. There is a MEID label on most phones (my DX has one under the battery) which identifies the device and can be traced back to the owner by the carrier.
which model is this u are talking about and its a bad bad thing
tell me the model number ... or else check it always pops up the email u can always send email to the owner ...
try posting ur screen by making a screen shot from android sdk method
Nexus S.
Phone has no branding on it, but the sim inside is from 3 mobile. So I assume the phone is from there as well. If it's not, can they still track it.
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Nexus S.
Phone has no branding on it, but the sim inside is from 3 mobile. So I assume the phone is from there as well. If it's not, can they still track it.
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yes i think they might can track if its kept on... they track it bt nearest phone tower location
they can't trace exact gps location i think bt tracks the local area... u might can get into trouble if u don't reply it to the owner ...
the best option i consider is rush to the nearest 3 mobile outlet if there any in ur area ... don't show them phone jst say u found a sim with this this number (numbers are on top of sim ) and also certain goods of the owner and u want to contact him personally as the artifacts are quite costly
this is the best option
and if there is no number over sim then took the sim itself to the store
good thing to know u wanna return back thanku from my side
i think this is the link for u
http://www.three.com.au/cs/ContentServer?c=Page&pagename=3CA%2FPage%2F3CAStatic&cid=1236150762310
or call 3 Care on 133 320
I can't use the SDK, since debugging mode isn't turned on.
But a screenshot isn't really going to help anyway, since all you can see is the pattern lock screen.
I'm not sure what you mean. How do I make their email popup?
i meant that when i forgot my lock pattern once .. i clicked on forgot pattern.. then i send a link to my email id automatcly with few clicks... and at last it poped up a menu saying
"email has been sent to - (My email id) "
can you not connect the phone by usb and access its memory with correct driver?! and if you enter the pattern many times wrong like 17 times i think it will ask you to log into the google Account, maybe there u see the account login and can just send an email from your comp to that address/name.
edit: i just notice kshitij_bhatt said about the same thing
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can you not connect the phone by usb and access its memory with correct driver?! and if you enter the pattern many times wrong like 17 times i think it will ask you to log into the google Account, maybe there u see the account login and can just send an email from your comp to that address/name.
edit: i just notice kshitij_bhatt said about the same thing
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yaa thats exactly i ment to say
I bought my Tablet S yesterday and applied the 4.0.3 OTA update overnight so I can't say whether it was caused by the update or not, but here's what happens:
My phone keeps reverting back to PIN unlock. I never set it to PIN unlock before, and even when I change it back to slide unlock, after a little while it'll be back to PIN unlock.
Hi poebae,
that's a strange bevaior. Since u just bought ur tablet I'd assume u dont have much on it by now. So I'd factory reset it and see if it'll solve my problem.
Outta curiosity, how the hell do you get back in your tablet if it sets a PIN code you dont know?
Are you syncing corporate email? Some companies configure the exchange server to require Android and iOS phones to add extra security and one of those security options is to require a PIN.
However, it should have alerted you and prompted you to set the PIN rather than just changing the setting.
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Hi poebae,
that's a strange bevaior. Since u just bought ur tablet I'd assume u dont have much on it by now. So I'd factory reset it and see if it'll solve my problem.
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Yep, I ended up just doing a factory reset and that seems to have solved it.
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Outta curiosity, how the hell do you get back in your tablet if it sets a PIN code you dont know?
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I just used '0000'. I either got lucky and guessed the PIN that the original owner used (I bought it second hand), or that's some kind of default code.
Gramon said:
Are you syncing corporate email? Some companies configure the exchange server to require Android and iOS phones to add extra security and one of those security options is to require a PIN.
However, it should have alerted you and prompted you to set the PIN rather than just changing the setting.
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Nope, not syncing corporate e-mail, but thank you for the suggestion!
I am wondering if all Note 2s allow for using gmail account to unlock phone when you are unable to remember pattern lock. I, Myself, do not have a problem, however, I have seen people mention they can unlock the phone if too many unsuccessful attempts are made at trying to unlock the phone. I do have a gmail account which is linked to the phone. I have tried 100 times to get it to give me the option to use the gmail account without any avail. I am a ATT user, was wondering if this might have something to do with it. The phone is not rooted. Any ideas? Also, it doesn't give me a countdown timer saying try again.
Thanks
You say that you don't have a problem, but then say you do. Regardless, looks like you'll have to do a factory reset.
Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 2 using xda-developers app
What I am saying is I am not locked out of the phone. I was just testing out that feature, but it never appears.