You DONT Save Any Battery by using 1080p resolution - Samsung Galaxy S10 Guides, News, & Discussion

A YouTuber recently done a video regarding does switching to a lower resolution actually save you battery. The answer? NO! It's just a myth.
LINK : https://youtu.be/ncPpM9tesPc
All credit goes to the original owner of the video.

I just saved 15% on battery life by switching to a lower resolution.

I just shutoff my phone and i saved 100% of my battery

Player04 said:
I just shutoff my phone and i saved 100% of my battery
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Haha ?

Player04 said:
I just shutoff my phone and i saved 100% of my battery
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Did you switch it to a lower resolution after turning it off though?

I didn't bother looking at the video sorry but, reducing the resolution does help with battery life, just not in a direct way.
When you're just browsing social media or replying to emails having a higher/lower resolution does nothing, as its mostly the CPU doing the heavy lifting here, but when you're watching videos or playing games, lowering the resolution will result in less GPU usage and sometimes also the CPU, which in result would consume less power.
For regular daily use the resolution won't make much of a difference, but if you're someone who consumes lots of Netflix or HDR videos, maybe play games like Pubg, fortnite or whatever a lot, you'll appreciate the little extra minutes lowering the resolution would give you, not to mention the extra performance that comes with it, as the GPU has less pixels to calculate.
The same concept applies to computers as well, its actually what Im basing my explanation on, but to get a precise results you'll have to do some tests/benchmarks with controlled variables.
If you play lots of games or watch lots of videos, you might wanna have the resolution at 1080p, otherwise 1440p will do just fine, the difference isn't that huge unless you're constantly forcing the GPU.

You wont with normal use. But you will with playing games at lower resolution, not to mention having a better frame rate!
Dont believe it. Try to play F1 mobile racing for about 1 hour and you will see!

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will ics hw acceleration save our batts?

Hello android fellas..i am an sgs 2 owner and a log time android user..for the most of android devices the most screen time i could ever get is 5 hours (screen on, not idle..idle means ntn..with uv i can get week++)..
So the question i rise here is, will ice cream sandwitch help our battery effeciency with hw acceleration?i noticed that my phone can do as much as 10 hours+ of video playback, but can only surf the web for around 4-4,5 ...which is amazingly ridiculous..if i let the phone idle , with screen turned on, at all times(there are actually apps to do that) i can get almost 11 hours of screen on time..but if i use my phone to as much as navigate through menus, i am lucky if i get 30% of that time.
That led me to the conclusion that cpu usage for 2d ui elements drawing is at best idiotic, but other than that, its that its not my device(s) problem..its the os that sucks it up..
So, do you believe, that ICS will fix that?is there hope on the horizon?4 hours screen on time/day , just wont cut it for a tought work day for me..
( i would like to close that section by saying that i am a 2 year android user and i know what i need to shut down, when to have on and what so that my batt is at its max effeciency..)
Opinions please? Will our GPUs make us look less embarassing?
Unlikely... partially, because the majority of actions needed by a web browser is unable to utilize the GPU (it's really only usable for compositing and rendering, which occurs surprisingly seldom outside of games: really only while the document loads... of course that's bound to change at some point, but for now, there really isn't much to gain other than more fluid animations), but mostly because it's a bit of an unfair comparison: Video playback today is more or less handled by special-purpose silicon, not what you'd usually call "The GPU".
Hans Schmucker said:
Unlikely... partially, because the majority of actions needed by a web browser is unable to utilize the GPU (it's really only usable for compositing and rendering, which occurs surprisingly seldom outside of games: really only while the document loads... of course that's bound to change at some point, but for now, there really isn't much to gain other than more fluid animations), but mostly because it's a bit of an unfair comparison: Video playback today is more or less handled by special-purpose silicon, not what you'd usually call "The GPU".
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no, i am aware that java still needs to be rendered in cpu... but i was not only bein referred to in browsing...menu browsing as well..ui navigation should be humongousl benetited am i right?
Accelerated is usually faster and smoother, especially multiple layers benefit greatly from additional acceleration (note however, that Android already uses that in most cases)... it just doesn't really translate to power saving.
Java doesn't really have anything to do with that: it may put a bit of additional load on the CPU, but that's not what's eating your battery, especially since virtually all computation-intensive parts of Android are written in C++. The real problem is that while the GPU is faster in these "burst" situations when there's suddenly a whole lot of layers to render, it's hard to predict those. So the CPU most always run at an acceptable rate... which in the end often means that the accelerated version uses more power since the system isn't able to clock down the CPU nor the GPU.
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Accelerated is usually faster and smoother, especially multiple layers benefit greatly from additional acceleration (note however, that Android already uses that in most cases)... it just doesn't really translate to power saving.
Java doesn't really have anything to do with that: it may put a bit of additional load on the CPU, but that's not what's eating your battery, especially since virtually all computation-intensive parts of Android are written in C++. The real problem is that while the GPU is faster in these "burst" situations when there's suddenly a whole lot of layers to render, it's hard to predict those. So the CPU most always run at an acceptable rate... which in the end often means that the accelerated version uses more power since the system isn't able to clock down the CPU nor the GPU.
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Damn..The load that cpu took from being less effecient to draw 2d, was my best explaination as to why our batteries suck so much..
It is definately not the phones..As i said earlier if i let the phone screen on, just idling, at, say auto brighness, it can go for 10-11 hours..but if during that time i, as much as navigate at menus, or settings , or whatever ui...BAM..4-5,5 hours maximum..
It HAS to be something wrong with the os..heck i can do 10 hours of .avi playback on a single charge , but i cannot go over 5 for just panning around the app drawer..(and my screen is amoled so it greatly benefits from black background of the drawer)...
If you could shed some light to that, for me i'd love ya even more!
Btw on my second post i meant to type javascript, not java my bad!

Different Performance Modes of Prime/Tegra3

I was thinking of starting a performance mode thread. To see different peoples results and thoughts on different power modes. I read some people post that they just use it in power/battery savings mode. Some keep it in normal all the time. Others in balanced mode. Would be good to see how these different modes perform in real life usage. From user perspective. How do the different modes perform for you? What have you noticed from switching between them?
I've noticed, so far, that In balanced mode, battery drains about 10% or a little less an hour. This is with nonstop use including gaming, watching vids, web surfing, etc. now in battery savings mode, it drains even less per hour. The UI still performs smoothly. Only main difference you immediately notice is that it drops the contrast ratio. So a soon a you press the battery savings tab, you will see it look like brightness went down a bit but it's actually the contrast ratio lowered. If you look closely, the display doesn't look a sharp as other 2modes. Display still looks good but not a sharp. I haven't ran normal mode long enough to see how it drains compared to others. One thing though, web surfing drains battery just as fast as gaming.
Plus I think the modes doesn't affect gaming or video playback performance. I read that somewhere, either anandtech or Engadget. When watching vids or playing games, it goes into normal mode. So those things won't be affected no matter what power mode you in, I think..lol not exactly sure. Any confirmation?
I always keep in normal mode and I am more than happy with battery and performance. today I watched hangover 2 in 720p so that's 2 hours of playback played probably an hour of riptide an hour of cordy about an hour of all other games combined surfed XDA using opera and had textab running got 7 or so hours of battery
tylermaciaszek said:
I always keep in normal mode and I am more than happy with battery and performance. today I watched hangover 2 in 720p so that's 2 hours of playback played probably an hour of riptide an hour of cordy about an hour of all other games combined surfed XDA using opera and had textab running got 7 or so hours of battery
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I will try out normal mode more to see what kind of battery life I get. There was a brief period that I used it that it seemed to drain less than in balanced mode. I always put it on normal mode if I'm charging it up and using it at the same time. The prime charges up pretty fast also.
bump, so we can see what modes people running on, battery life on them, and performance observations.
demandarin said:
I will try out normal mode more to see what kind of battery life I get. There was a brief period that I used it that it seemed to drain less than in balanced mode. I always put it on normal mode if I'm charging it up and using it at the same time. The prime charges up pretty fast also.
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yeah it does charge really fast that is one thing i love i keep it in power saving mode alot and barely notice any performance issues
I tried both balanced and power saving mode but can't see a difference. If anything I believe balanced gives better life but have not tested formality. What are you guys getting?. Over two days with using standby I'm averaging what seems to be 7 hours or so. 13-15% an hour. Seems low based on what Asus claimed and what I've read from you guys. Maybe its true newness with installing apps and using it heavily?? I do not believe battery conditioning will make up that big of difference.
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DaRacerz said:
I tried both balanced and power saving mode but can't see a difference. If anything I believe balanced gives better life but have not tested formality. What are you guys getting?. Over two days with using standby I'm averaging what seems to be 7 hours or so. 13-15% an hour. Seems low based on what Asus claimed and what I've read from you guys. Maybe its true newness with installing apps and using it heavily?? I do not believe battery conditioning will make up that big of difference.
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its really dependent on what exactly you are doing while in each mode. like now for instance, I have 72% battery left on balanced mode. battery time shows 2 hrs and 54 mins. I've done basically nonstop web surfing here reading and posting in the forum. this goes with what I said before that it seems to drain 10% or a lil less per hr. I've achieved about the same even in normal mode. its weird cuz you'd think in normal mode it'll drain alot faster when I've noticed it only draining a little faster than balanced. like I said, I think no matter what mode you in, it really depends on exactly what you're doing and brightness level.
I have yet to really test battery/power save mode. because when you put it in that mode, it immediately lowers the contrast levels, if you haven't noticed. if not, try pressing power save mode and it'll immediately look like the screen dimmed a lil. it actually didn't and if you look closer you will see contrast levels dropped and display doesn't look as sharp and colors don't pop as much as other modes. almost cartoonish looking. display still looks good but not like when in balanced or normal. if you go from battery save back to another mode, you'll immediately see display switch back to high contrast level and colors pop again.
Ive been keeping mine in balanced mode except for when i play certaingemes like shadow gun. I couldnt be happier with battery life.
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Used a good part of today. Mostly downloading apps, playing games, Web browsing, and xda a loooooot. Lol
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I was in normal mode all day and turned ips on for about an hour or so.
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DaRacerz said:
I tried both balanced and power saving mode but can't see a difference. If anything I believe balanced gives better life but have not tested formality.
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It's believable that reducing the CPU's max clocks could result in more power usage overall. It will still clock down and use the companion core in any mode (although a "turbo" mode that doesn't use it would be interesting for comparison), so the idle power consumption won't change. Reducing the maximum speed means it won't be able to use as much power at peak, but it may be forced to run at its (reduced) maximum speed for significantly longer, which uses so much more power than idle that the reduction in power from the lower frequency doesn't offset the increase in power from increasing the task length.
As an analogy, driving slower is more efficient than driving faster, because the faster you go, the greater the increase in power you need to maintain that speed (this is due to air resistance in cars, and the fact that power is proportional to voltage squared in CPUs). But that's only true up to a certain point: you don't get awesome mileage if you drive everywhere at 10mph, because it takes so long to get anywhere you'd have been better getting there 5 times quicker and then turning the car off entirely.
This is why battery life is so good in sleep mode lol how low the processor runs it's under 102mhz
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This is why battery life is so good in sleep mode lol how low the processor runs it's under 102mhz
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Ha, that makes sense. I had 86% left and after being in sleep mode for a while my predicted battery life remaining is over 50 days. not too bad
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Ha, that makes sense. I had 86% left and after being in sleep mode for a while my predicted battery life remaining is over 50 days. not too bad
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The battery on this tablet is really good like amazing
Haro912 said:
Used a good part of today. Mostly downloading apps, playing games, Web browsing, and xda a loooooot. Lol
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I was in normal mode all day and turned ips on for about an hour or so.
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that's great battery life for it to be in normal mode.
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It's believable that reducing the CPU's max clocks could result in more power usage overall. It will still clock down and use the companion core in any mode (although a "turbo" mode that doesn't use it would be interesting for comparison), so the idle power consumption won't change. Reducing the maximum speed means it won't be able to use as much power at peak, but it may be forced to run at its (reduced) maximum speed for significantly longer, which uses so much more power than idle that the reduction in power from the lower frequency doesn't offset the increase in power from increasing the task length.
As an analogy, driving slower is more efficient than driving faster, because the faster you go, the greater the increase in power you need to maintain that speed (this is due to air resistance in cars, and the fact that power is proportional to voltage squared in CPUs). But that's only true up to a certain point: you don't get awesome mileage if you drive everywhere at 10mph, because it takes so long to get anywhere you'd have been better getting there 5 times quicker and then turning the car off entirely.
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good point. I also think that's only the case if you put it in battery savings mode and try to do more CPU intensive tasks. I would think that if you put it in that mode and only do more simple or less CPU intensive stuff, we would definitely see the best battery life in that mode.
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This is why battery life is so good in sleep mode lol how low the processor runs it's under 102mhz
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is CPU Spy the name of that app?
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Ha, that makes sense. I had 86% left and after being in sleep mode for a while my predicted battery life remaining is over 50 days. not too bad
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have you found a good app that shows remaining time or usage left on battery life?
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that's great battery life for it to be in normal mode.
good point. I also think that's only the case if you put it in battery savings mode and try to do more CPU intensive tasks. I would think that if you put it in that mode and only do more simple or less CPU intensive stuff, we would definitely see the best battery life in that mode.
is CPU Spy the name of that app?
have you found a good app that shows remaining time or usage left on battery life?
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Yes I used CPU spy!
Mithent said:
As an analogy, driving slower is more efficient than driving faster, because the faster you go, the greater the increase in power you need to maintain that speed (this is due to air resistance in cars, and the fact that power is proportional to voltage squared in CPUs). But that's only true up to a certain point: you don't get awesome mileage if you drive everywhere at 10mph, because it takes so long to get anywhere you'd have been better getting there 5 times quicker and then turning the car off entirely.
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This is false if it was true gas milage in town would be higher then it is a car is built to get best mpg at 55 mph while on the highway
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DaRacerz said:
I tried both balanced and power saving mode but can't see a difference. If anything I believe balanced gives better life but have not tested formality. What are you guys getting?. Over two days with using standby I'm averaging what seems to be 7 hours or so. 13-15% an hour. Seems low based on what Asus claimed and what I've read from you guys. Maybe its true newness with installing apps and using it heavily?? I do not believe battery conditioning will make up that big of difference.
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using normal mode I would say I am getting something similar to the 13-15% per hour you are.getting. I haven't kept an exremely close eye on it but definitely using a.bit more then 10% per hour.
I've noticed a bigger swing in battery when adjusting screen brightness more than between power modes... I keep it on normal, brightness between 50 and 75, still get amazing battery life. Super ips requires sunglasses when in a dark room lol.
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I've noticed a bigger swing in battery when adjusting screen brightness more than between power modes... I keep it on normal, brightness between 50 and 75, still get amazing battery life. Super ips requires sunglasses when in a dark room lol.
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Watching movie last night pitch black room brightness on full I was curious so turned on super IPS thought I went blind for a second
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that's great battery life for it to be in normal mode.
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Yeah. It did sleep for about an hour while I slept. But others I was on is doing something. I'm so used to my LG Revolution which eats through battery. This thing makes me so happy
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[Q] Underclocking

I know everyone is excited about overclocking their primes, but has anyone thought about underclocking it? I would love to hear the capabilities of that on battery life. Also, will we be able to use setCPU to control our speeds on the prime?
Already can be done, in a sense on stock prime. JUST KEEP it in powersavings mode. You will get the most/longest battery life out of it. Plus you can still play movies or games in that mode just fine.
NOW IF YOURE rooted, I'd say get System Tuner Pro app. IMO its alot better than set CPU. It does all the same things and alot more. From there you can manually lower the maximum frequency range and there goes underclocking Or you could try out one of system Turner's preset modes. I believe they have a power saving one also.
Really though stock powersavings mode is good enough for long battery life. ITS optimized for everything to still work pretty well or fast. Manually lowering the Max speed too low might cause it too lag really bad or maybe even instability. It would be about finding that sweet spot to where everything still runs good.
ONE THING TO think about though is no matter how much you underclock, the display brightness will be the biggest battery drainer. SO underclocking with Max brightness or something won't make sense.Plus be on the lookout for undervolting once bootloader is unlocked.
Came here to say exactly this ^^^
I think demandarin's comment pretty much sums up the best/latest approaches to underclocking available for the Prime. As noted, it makes the *most* sense with the LCD brightness completely down.
However, the only *real* way to qualitatively discover how much savings a strong underclocking scheme would have is to test it. When the time allows (testing battery life on these things takes a LONG time!! ) I'll end up doing this...

Getting FPS(Frames per second)drops in games.

Hello everyone.
I own pro version of mate 10 and when i play games on it (like PubG and Modern combat 5)on very high settings it start Lagging constantly and FPS drops quickly i don't know why is this happening on high end device..If someone know how to handle this situation please tell me..
Thank You.
Sardar0131 said:
Hello everyone.
I own pro version of mate 10 and when i play games on it (like PubG and Modern combat 5)on very high settings it start Lagging constantly and FPS drops quickly i don't know why is this happening on high end device..If someone know how to handle this situation please tell me..
Thank You.
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Buy another phone, not Huawei their Kirin processors are not good. They somehow perform well in benchmarks but they are a lot worse in real life than snapdragon or exynos (and of course apple)
I benchmarked many games... Maximum 10 min of gaming then there is thermal throttling because it gets too hot. Then fps drops 1/3 at least.
Just tested pubg on HDR setting and anti aliasing enabled. It starts with 40fps but after 5 min drops to 15-25fps and also lags, unplayable.
Even normal games with not so good graphics get fps drops after 10-15min like Sonic. Common Huawei, my sister is playing Sonic on a 250€ Samsung A5 2017
Look at the screenshots, it starts with 40fps but many lags and frame drops. After a couple minutes it drops to constant 20fps. The other shows CPU usage but that is not working obviously. Somehow it gets an average of 30fps but that's bs. It is not playable.
Yeah.. Same with me when i switch to HD settings of pubG it lags little bit.. But when i switch on HDR it become unplayable. I will upgrade to one plus soon.
Thanks
if you got root then disable the power genius app and restart. this app slows phone down to prevent overheat. i tested this with pubg and asphalt 8 at 60fps. constant 60 FPS even after 30 mins of gaming. with HDR i get constant 40-45.
PS: the phone will get warm because of 12 GPU cores so be in a cool room while playing.
same here. using m10p and lagging on PubG even on High settings. But it improved on the latest firmware (BLA-L29 C636 B138)
PUBG lagg on Mate 10 Pro not because of Kirin. It laggs because PUBG is not optimized game at all. Same for people that play PUBG throu their desktop computers. I watched my friend playing PUBG on his 2k PC and still gettin' FPS dropped and lagg. Although Mate gets hot after 10 till 20 minutes of gaming.
Interesting to read this, I have a Note 8 atm and I play a lot of PUBG, I'm about to trade my Note 8 in for a Mate 10 Pro (Don't judge) as I'm a little bored of my phone now and annoyed of the poor battery life and awful mono speaker. The Mate 10 Pro ticks more boxes for what I require, so I'm hoping a software update will fix the FPS.
I don't play PubG but I do however play the recently released Asphalt 9 which as far as I know is pretty intensive and get minimal heat and it runs smooth for well over a hour, I don't notice any FPS drop, I haven't checked statistically what it's running at while playing but if the drop was severe then I'd definitely notice it
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I don't play PubG but I do however play the recently released Asphalt 9 which as far as I know is pretty intensive and get minimal heat and it runs smooth for well over a hour, I don't notice any FPS drop, I haven't checked statistically what it's running at while playing but if the drop was severe then I'd definitely notice it
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Thanks for this info, sounds like I should expect similar to what I get at the moment then, maybe an improvement once the update comes out to boost the GPU.
I used to play Shadow Fight 3. Till the release of update 142 it worked flawlessly,even on longer playing sessions....then,dunno what brains of Huawei did,it became unplayable.
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I used to play Shadow Fight 3. Till the release of update 142 it worked flawlessly....then,dunno what brains of Huawei did,it became unplayable.
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Sounds to me that they like bringing out these new features, meaning these new features are "let's break something that worked perfectly before"...that's the gist I've got off these forums.....I'm hoping I'm not going to regret my decision now I've ordered the Mate 10 Pro
Exactly. That was my thought too.
But I'm keeping it cuz of job and unrivaled battery life. As a business phone it's flawless.
maverick1103 said:
Interesting to read this, I have a Note 8 atm and I play a lot of PUBG, I'm about to trade my Note 8 in for a Mate 10 Pro (Don't judge) as I'm a little bored of my phone now and annoyed of the poor battery life and awful mono speaker. The Mate 10 Pro ticks more boxes for what I require, so I'm hoping a software update will fix the FPS.
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Yes, they will release GPU Turbo for Boost in GPU performance in Games
troublecro said:
Exactly. That was my thought too.
But I'm keeping it cuz of job and unrivaled battery life. As a business phone it's flawless.
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One of the main reason I'm moving to the Mate 10 Pro is for battery life, it'll be nice to have a phone that can last a whole day with heavy use, my last phone that did that was iPhone 6s Plus.
Sardar0131 said:
Yes, they will release GPU Turbo for Boost in GPU performance in Games
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I've read that, hoping it applies to PUBG!
maverick1103 said:
I've read that, hoping it applies to PUBG!
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It does cuz PBUG is their main "selling" point
Fps drop bcause of overheat. the cpu and gpu will reduce the speed when reach certain temp to prevent soc chip die....if u are gamer, use smartphone cooler or buy rog phone
Saadkhalid786 said:
if you got root then disable the power genius app and restart. this app slows phone down to prevent overheat. i tested this with pubg and asphalt 8 at 60fps. constant 60 FPS even after 30 mins of gaming. with HDR i get constant 40-45.
PS: the phone will get warm because of 12 GPU cores so be in a cool room while playing.
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The power genius app, is it an app? Can u elaborate more on this? Need root to do this?

GPU CPU Usage

Hi Guys. I play Black desert mobile on poco and when I have High graphics the gpu usage is around 30% while the cpu is 25%. Everything is ok, I can't say something about that. The point is that when I set the graphics to max settings, the usage of the graphics card goes between 35% - 60% and the processor is around 35%. For this reason, I would like you to tell me, how much the usage of gpu affects the overall 'health' and performance of the mobile, if it matters at all . What I mean is, whether it is 30% or 60%, will it affect the mobile in general? For example, I can use max graphics all the time without damaging the phone?
DennisKrem said:
Hi Guys. I play Black desert mobile on poco and when I have High graphics the gpu usage is around 30% while the cpu is 25%. Everything is ok, I can't say something about that. The point is that when I set the graphics to max settings, the usage of the graphics card goes between 35% - 60% and the processor is around 35%. For this reason, I would like you to tell me, how much the usage of gpu affects the overall 'health' and performance of the mobile, if it matters at all . What I mean is, whether it is 30% or 60%, will it affect the mobile in general? For example, I can use max graphics all the time without damaging the phone?
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I can use max graphics all the time without damaging the phone
I am always playing game max graphics
Poco have 845 and liquid cooler
AsusZenFone3Deluxe said:
I can use max graphics all the time without damaging the phone
I am always playing game max graphics
Poco have 845 and liquid cooler
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Ok thank you. Are you sure though ? I mean have you checked if there is any difference between the battery power after and before playing for many hours ? Or with the performance in general? Because I can play sometimes many hours a day.

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