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Hi there, sorry if this has been asked before. I did have a quick look (The first post in the FAQ thread) around but couldnt find this question, if it has already been asked please point me in the right direction .
I am looking at purchasing myself a SGS2 soon (Month or so, when the price drops) but I was wondering do you need a Samsung TV to connect it to the SGS2? I currently have a LG 32" and Panasonic 42", will either of these be ok?
Also a side question, which im guessing has been asked before, do I connect to the TV using a HDMI cable or DLNA? Im not exactly sure what DLNA is? is it just connecting to the Tv wirelesly?
Thanks for all the help. Cheers
Hi look here for DLNA http://www.dlna.org/digital_living/how_it_works/
In a nut shell yes its a way of communication between two wifi enabled devices that are DLNA certified . Your TV will have a certificate or state that it is DLNA compliant .
You can stream music , videos , etc to all DLNA devices over the air removing the need for cables.
I personally prefer cables as WiFi can be a hit and miss affair with most interference involving anything on 2.4 ghz will effect performance.
So any DLNA device your Samsung will connect to with the ALL share app
No it doesn't need to be a Samsung TV. Any TV which has a HDMI port would work perfectly fine.
I know it's maybe a little pedantic but you really dont need a tv to have a phone
The only thing a samsung TV one of the later ones will give you is the ability to use the phone as a wifi-remote and control.
DLNA which stands for complete crap, is actually good it's a simple way to stream from source to targets or to be able trigger said stream from targets specified. Best to do a youtube search as it will explain it more.
Most new tv's have dlna server clients built in. HDMI is a faster way to get a stream to play on a tv though so depends.
Side note : The current bit rate for HD vid shot on the phone is actually really crap, 10-13mbits so anything you shoot on the phone would stream over wifi using dlna quite easy. However if you decided to put a 40mbit per second HD movie, streaming over wifi maybe a little hard on all but the best wifi routes/systems. For that you would really want a hdmi out for your sgs2
Neways, hope that helps
Edit : 2 replies in the course of me typing this, must type faster
just be clear here, any TV with a HDMI port will allow picture and sound from the phone, however you are going to have to wait until june to get the adapter to allow this. This adapter (MHL) converts the mini usb port into a data port which will allow usb host, hdmi and charging from a MHL enabled TV (not available yet) and just picture and sound from a normal TV with HDMI.
Thanks for the replies everyobdy. Barry, I wouldnt want to record a video and then show it on Tv, I would most likely be downloading a movie/tv show to my PC, then onto my phone then play it through the TV. That can be done cant it?
Cheers
Edit: Sorry I didnt mean Barry, I meant Dean
Wellynz said:
Thanks for the replies everyobdy. Barry, I wouldnt want to record a video and then show it on Tv, I would most likely be downloading a movie/tv show to my PC, then onto my phone then play it through the TV. That can be done cant it?
Cheers
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If you want to show wirelessly on TV, and the TV is DLNA compliant, you can show directly from PC to TV. You can also throw an HDMI cable from PC to TV if you can.
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just be clear here, any TV with a HDMI port will allow picture and sound from the phone, however you are going to have to wait until june to get the adapter to allow this. This adapter (MHL) converts the mini usb port into a data port which will allow usb host, hdmi and charging from a MHL enabled TV (not available yet) and just picture and sound from a normal TV with HDMI.
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Thanks for that. So basically what you are saying is currently if I was connecting the phone to a TV using HDMI the sound would come out of the phone and not the TV? However when this adapter gets released the sound will come out of the TV?
If you use DNLA then no, sound and video both will come out of the tv. If you're talking about connecting to tv's HDMI then again no, both sound and video come out of the tv. In other words, if video comes out of the tv, so will sound. If video doesn't come out of the tv, then neither will sound.
Basically you either get both or none lol
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If you use DNLA then no, sound and video both will come out of the tv. If you're talking about connecting to tv's HDMI then again no, both sound and video come out of the tv. In other words, if video comes out of the tv, so will sound. If video doesn't come out of the tv, then neither will sound.
Basically you either get both or none lol
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correct, both send sound and video to the tv digitally.
stoolzo said:
just be clear here, any TV with a HDMI port will allow picture and sound from the phone, however you are going to have to wait until june to get the adapter to allow this. This adapter (MHL) converts the mini usb port into a data port which will allow usb host, hdmi and charging from a MHL enabled TV (not available yet) and just picture and sound from a normal TV with HDMI.
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Is it impossible to charge the phone while connected to a non-MHL TV, or does the adapter have a separate charging pass-through?
The MHL-HDMI adapter has a socket for a charger so you phone will get charged, too.
I have few HD movies of resolution 720p stored on my neo v (unrooted)
Now what i have observed is that HDMI output does not seem like real or close to being HD video...I dont know why is it like that ? because the same video looks too good when i watch on laptop which unfortunately dont have hdmi output..
Is it because smartphones arent intended to output the real HD quality on HDTV..or is it that it will take few tweaks or few apps which will make it more like HD..
Contents i use are genuine HD of 720p files over the internet..
Players which i use on my xperia neo v is mx video player as well as power dvd 4.xx(latest version)
Is there any other player which will make some difference when i watch HD videos through HDMI cable..
And yes my tv is full HD so it does have the capability to output all real HD stuffs upto 1080p
I would be glad with the help...thank you !!
Roooting the phone is not a solution for me...!!
The phone puts out its own maximum resolution via the hdmi cable. That means 480x854.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
sunlight10f said:
The phone puts out its own maximum resolution via the hdmi cable. That means 480x854.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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I really dont buy on this...as my tv shows that the output is 720p...and there is nowhere being written over the internet that it shows its own resolution...
Another reason why i dont think is because i do watch HD 720p movies..and there is nowhere screen being cut off on my HDTV...if it was showing on mobile resolution as the output is being recognised as 720p on my HDTV..!!
Thanks though hoping for more replies..with any help..!!
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The phone puts out its own maximum resolution via the hdmi cable. That means 480x854.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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You are right. Its 854x480 scaled to 720p.
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HDMI configuration
Please check also configuration in - service menu - under service test , hdmi
and try change to 720p
tomask33 said:
Please check also configuration in - service menu - under service test , hdmi
and try change to 720p
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I got all hopeful and tried this after getting home but no, same quality as before when it was on automatic.
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You are right. Its 854x480 scaled to 720p.
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yes we can see that it is upscaled..but what about 720p mp4 videos..are they upscaled too ? or is it HD output i.e. 720p
Read the default prop it tells you fps HDMI output
Also mod it from there
You may be lucky
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Why don't you just use your usb cable for watching movies? Does you TV support USB flash drives? Set your phone to MSC mode, and connect it the TV.
kormatoes said:
Read the default prop it tells you fps HDMI output
Also mod it from there
You may be lucky
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where to find it ? sorry i am a total newbie around here...
sdk16420 said:
Why don't you just use your usb cable for watching movies? Does you TV support USB flash drives? Set your phone to MSC mode, and connect it the TV.
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yes my tv supports USB drives..it works pretty well with pendrives on my HDTV..however it cannot play any HD files through USB on my HDTV..only divx files supported..
After being suggested by you i set my phone to MSC mode and connected but TV fails to recognise any USB device being connected
So how to overcome that..my phone is non-root does that have anything to do with it..?
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yes my tv supports USB drives..it works pretty well with pendrives on my HDTV..however it cannot play any HD files through USB on my HDTV..only divx files supported..
After being suggested by you i set my phone to MSC mode and connected but TV fails to recognise any USB device being connected
So how to overcome that..my phone is non-root does that have anything to do with it..?
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My phone connects fine to the tv in MSC mode. Haven't tried movies, but browsing pictures works good. Is it a fairly new or an old TV?
sdk16420 said:
My phone connects fine to the tv in MSC mode. Haven't tried movies, but browsing pictures works good. Is it a fairly new or an old TV?
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yes you can say that if not much its been 2years old..belongs to LG LH60 series jazz theatre 32'
Picture on HDMI device must be same as on phone display (here is no windowsXP with super videochip with multidisplay support), therefore picture on FullHDTV is scaled 854x480
akshay0078 said:
yes you can say that if not much its been 2years old..belongs to LG LH60 series jazz theatre 32'
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OK, I tried it on a few months old Brava mid segment tv.
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Lietotajs said:
Picture on HDMI device must be same as on phone display (here is no windowsXP with super videochip with multidisplay support), therefore picture on FullHDTV is scaled 854x480
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I can understand for rest of the stuffs on mobile but what about 720p mp4 videos are they upscaled too ?
Why does they advertise HD then ?
offtopic-Does samsung galaxy S2 and upcoming xperia S who have the capablility to output 1080p stuff through HDMI..is nothing but upscaling ?
Hi all!
I was wondering the way to change the hdmi output resolution of my neo v device, and looking for the xda forums and the internet. Also, i was looking for the way to turn off the screen without the tv turn off too, because i have a USB OTG cable and a mouse, and i think that is a stupid thing getting turned on both screens.
In xda forums i only found about the matter for the Atrix 4G ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501414 )
In the internet, i have found this, for the Pov/viewpad10S: ( http://www.grupoandroid.com/topic/21153-configuracion-salida-hdmi-povviewpad10s/ ). As you can see, is in spanish, and i try to translate it:
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The HDM output of POV Tegra, Viewpad 10s y Advent Vega is configurable, but not easily, it don't have a interface to do it. The olny way I know is through terminal or Gscript. These are the commands to change the resolution:
First su
setprop persist.tegra.dpy5.mode.width #
setprop persist.tegra.dpy5.mode.height #
Where # is the size in pixels. The first is the weight, and the second is the height. Once done this reboot. The default settings are 1920x1080.
You can configure too if we want to see it only through the HDMI output, only in the tablet or in both. We make it with this command. First it's needed to do su to have root too.
Only tablet
/system/bin/nvdmmultidisplay --lcd
Only HDMI
/system/bin/nvdmmultidisplay --hdmi
Tablet and HDMI working together
/system/bin/nvdmmultidisplay --both
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With my negative knowledge of programming, i understand that neo v have the first by default, and the second is a way to turn off the phone screen, when a tv is plugged in.
¿It can be done in this phone for some way?
I expect that my bad english will not be a problem. Greetings.
Hi,
I recently bought Xperia S - that has separate HDMI and USB ports, so i was thinking if i could use the device to play pc games and stream video and sound via my phone to tv.
The phone can stream 1280x720 resolution to tv, so i was thinking i could create some kind of onlive-like experience, by plugging phone to tv and connecting keyboard/mouse to it via usb hub/bluetooth - and WIFI streaming output from pc to my phone then to tv.
Is there any app i could use to archieve my goal?
I am pretty sure OnLive is kind of what you are looking for! You can't run windows on your phone, so this is as close as it gets!
Hope this helps! Hitting the thank button if I helped it much appreciated
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You misunderstood, i dont want to run windows on my phone, i want to stream video/audio/input between my pc and phone - yes, same thing that OnLive does but with my own games on pc. I just dont want to use onlive - i want my local pc in other room - so far the closest thing out there seems to be kainy...
I know, I was just saying, I have tried several things and there is not really pc streaming to your phone that is instance from pc to phone. It has some lag.
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I don't think this is possible. Closest you'll get is Onlive as previously stated or using teamviewer.
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Actually - ive figured out what i need to do - thankfully i can come by with 10 meter hdmi cable from pc to tv. So ill do this.
Bought "kainy" app from the market, bought samsung USB-otg adapter and a cheap usb hub. I will run kainy on minimal gfx and sound settings, plug keyboard and mouse to usb adapter so i will be able to stream input to pc via kainy.
HDMI output will its job for video and audio.
I've also tried super snes emulator with logitech rumble pad connected via usb to my phone - thos works awesomely well - a mobile console/emulator replacement, the only problem i experience now is that phone slows badly when i enable tv out via hdmi from my Xperia
ergo14 said:
Hi,
I recently bought Xperia S - that has separate HDMI and USB ports, so i was thinking if i could use the device to play pc games and stream video and sound via my phone to tv.
The phone can stream 1280x720 resolution to tv, so i was thinking i could create some kind of onlive-like experience, by plugging phone to tv and connecting keyboard/mouse to it via usb hub/bluetooth - and WIFI streaming output from pc to my phone then to tv.
Is there any app i could use to archieve my goal?
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The only thing that could work is OnLive. VNC is too laggy for gaming. At least over my network.
Well i intend to use it only between 2 rooms, not over internet - if onlive works - local wifi should work better
chase2hoop said:
The only thing that could work is OnLive. VNC is too laggy for gaming. At least over my network.
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I don't see this not being smooth/fast enough either, but who knows, maybe he will get it working.
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well, i already got kainy working on my tv - but the compression is horrible, so i've decided instead to byu 8-10m HDMI cable and connect my pc -> tv directly , and just use phone as remote hub for keyboard, mouse - the lag for input should be minimal enough to play fps online - and probably way better option than onlive.
Guys I own a SGS2 and a LG LED TV.
Is there a way that I can connect my phone to LG LED TV (which is dlna certified) like the Samsung Allshare application?
What I want is to play games or browse the phone on the TV through HDMI.
You need to purchase an MHL cable.
I have that, I'm looking for a way to wirelessly do that
ksoze11 said:
I have that, I'm looking for a way to wirelessly do that
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You can only stream pictures, music and video wirelessly, using apps such as AllShare or Skifta. Most DLNA certified devices such as your TV will be able to handle pics and music with no problem, however the video which it can display will largely depend on what formats your TV can recognise. My Sony is DLNA certified but can only recognise a particular mpeg format over DLNA
Anything else you'll need your MHL cable
Thanks pal, so there's no way I can play games on LED TV?
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I have that, I'm looking for a way to wirelessly do that
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Forgive me for not being psychic, you didn't say you wanted to do it wirelessly. In fact, you said quite the opposite
ksoze11 said:
What I want is to play games or browse the phone on the TV through HDMI.
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ksoze11 said:
Thanks pal, so there's no way I can play games on LED TV?
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Only via MHL
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Mhl
I connected my true mhl and is great, beautiful experience, games, video everything
Some of the custom rom will not work HDMI output....
guys is it true that sgs2 tv out work with this cable
http://www.cellphoneshop.net/35mmtvout.html
NOMIOMI said:
guys is it true that sgs2 tv out work with this cable
http://www.cellphoneshop.net/35mmtvout.html
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No, the i9100 doesn't output video at all from the 3.5mm jack. So this cable won't work.
is there any cradle both contains usb otg and hdmi output on it or is it possible to build one. i want to watch movies from my harddisk when i plug my phone to tv.
nemkre said:
is there any cradle both contains usb otg and hdmi output on it or is it possible to build one. i want to watch movies from my harddisk when i plug my phone to tv.
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Here's a Galaxy Nexus thread where someone tried to do that and it didn't work. If it doesn't work on a Nexus I doubt that it will on an Evo 3D since that phone was designed with OTG included.
What you could do is connect the drive to a PC then use an app like ES File Explorer to stream the movie to the phone over Wi-Fi and output it via MHL/HDMI. I know that will work.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Here's a Galaxy Nexus thread where someone tried to do that and it didn't work. If it doesn't work on a Nexus I doubt that it will on an Evo 3D since that phone was designed with OTG included.
What you could do is connect the drive to a PC then use an app like ES File Explorer to stream the movie to the phone over Wi-Fi and output it via MHL/HDMI. I know that will work.
ramjet73
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Try Skifta on the Play Store. That's what it does.