Car charger & power bank recommendations? - ASUS ROG Phone II Accessories

Hello everyone,
I've double checked ASUS website and saw that our ROG Phone 2 supports Quick Charge 4.0
So, I was wondering if anyone recommends any particular car chargers that support QC 4 along with a power bank. I've mainly searched on Amazon with not much success. Also I'm kind of suspicious of the quality of the tiny car chargers under $15 that say they support QC 4.

iBluesurge said:
Hello everyone,
I've double checked ASUS website and saw that our ROG Phone 2 supports Quick Charge 4.0
So, I was wondering if anyone recommends any particular car chargers that support QC 4 along with a power bank. I've mainly searched on Amazon with not much success. Also I'm kind of suspicious of the quality of the tiny car chargers under $15 that say they support QC 4.
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Can't speak to power banks, or Quick Charge 4.0, but the best car charger I've owned so far and the one I'm currently using to charge my ROG 2 and my laptop is this charger for $23 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07KSQXP6Q?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
It's a 63W car charger (45 watts USB PD on the USB-C port and 18 watts QC 3.0 on the USB-A port). I've testing it (as have other commentors on Amazon) with my USB power meter and it definitely outputs what it claims. Charges my ROG 2 at the same rate and speed as the wall charger Asus supplied with my ROG Phone 2 Tencent Edition, and charges my GPD P2 Max laptop very fast.

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S8 - cables, charger, glass protector and what not!

Hello All,
I thought I should post all the extra stuff that I had to buy for my S8 here so others can look for it easily. The following items have been tested by me but do not hold me for anything that may or may not work for you.
I bought these screen protectors as I found them to be of good quality, durable and can fit into most S8 cases. I had one on my S8 when I dropped it on concrete! Luckily only the screen protector got shattered and not my new S8. So I ended up buying a few more as they are crystal clear, no issues with touch sensitivity and fit snugly in most cases. The link for tempered screen protector is this
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3D-...32818410451.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.SfZNbo
I also bought slim cases for s8 and the link to that is https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Msv...32804190382.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.SfZNbo
Cables: the stock cable that came with S8 is only USB 2.0 certified.
I also had to buy usb type c to type c cable which is USB 3.1 Gen 2 certified as I wanted data transfer speeds of 10 Gbps and to use USB Power Delivery charging that is enabled in S8 as sometimes quick charge charger isn't readily available to me. So I purchased this cable which is tested and certified by USB-IF programme. This cable has 60 W charging capability along with 10 Gbps data transfer speeds and supports 4k display mode.
USB type c 3.1 Gen 2 cable link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XDB3...TF8&colid=1HNOKML5JAN5S&coliid=I29D160LWWJZPF
Following this I also had to buy a USB type A to type C USB 3.1 Gen 2 cable for data transfer speeds of 10 Gbps as stock cable took too long to transfer large files from my laptop to phone. This cable is USB-IF certified and again is USB 3.1 Gen 2 with 10 Gbps and 60 Watt of power delivery. This cable is also USB-IF certified.
USB type A to type C 3.1 Gen 2 cable link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07213D...TF8&colid=1HNOKML5JAN5S&coliid=I1F1MQL9SCB29T
finally I had to buy a charger that could support USB Power Delivery as well as Quick Charge charging. So I bought this 48 Watt (USB PD 30 Watt and Quick Charge 18 Watt) charger which can charge my S8 at the same speed as the stock charger. I bought this charger because I think as we move more into the future, the USB Power Delivery will be the main port used (as google is pushing for it) and quick charge will be side.
I use the above charger with samsung fast wireless charger and it fast charges the phone. This is the wireless charger that I use https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BSOPVDM?psc=1&tag=ho01f-21 which isn't the latest and greatest due to its microusb connector limiting the wireless charger to 9 Watt charging capability. I understand that the new samsung wireless charger ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Wi...6756&sr=1-7&keywords=samsung+wireless+charger ) has USB type C socket however samsung charger only outputs 9 Watt max on the new charger so a bit pointless unless you are in for the looks. The point I am making here is that the Tronsmart charger will work with both samsung chargers and others and will provide quickcharge 3.0 capability.
You can buy non-samsung wireless chargers that are capable of charging at 15W for S8 and the Tronsmart charger will work with them as it can pump up to 18 Watt on quickcharge and 30 Watt on USB PD.
Just a note: S8 charges at max of 15 Watts on stock adaptive fast charger, USB PD and Quick Charge 3.0 and I guess Samsung didn't want to repeat Note 7 scenario so they have put this limit on S8 however you can charge other gadgets at a much faster rate especially on USB PD which can support up to 100 Watt of charging.
Hopefully anyone looking for accessories could use this information rather than spending money and time in testing different items as I had to.
Best,
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Quick Charge \ AFC to VOOC \ Dash \ Rapid adapter

I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
Jaxidian said:
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
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I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
chowfun said:
I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
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Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
chowfun said:
I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
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Oh, then I misunderstood something. I did read it quickly.
Thanks for pointing out my error.
tengtengvn said:
Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
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I hear you - I did buy a multifunction car charger that supports both QC3.0 and DASH - I will report whether that works when it comes (hopefully later in the week if not the following week). I have also gotten the specialized versions from WEB- in China so once I get those I will let you know.
So I got one of the adapters today - this is an older version that does DC to Type C, so I did not expect it to work (even though it specifically listed VOOC and DASH support - maybe it worked for an older OP version).
This one was from eBay, and supposedly the seller sent me the wrong item (WEB- makes a 12V and a 20V PD version - and instead of the 20V version they sent me the 12V version instead - which can only decrease voltage due to the builtin buck converter inside).
So the question is - does it work with DASH charging? --- No, it did not. However, it is still an interesting adapter because it has broad fast charge technology support. They market this little adapter to convert your "dumb" laptop charger into a "multifunctional charger."
Interesting facts:
1. This adapter requires 12V for it to function. It does start turning on at around 11V or so, and anything below that will cause the output to shut off and the operation light to go red. The USB to USB version automatically requests QC @ 12V, but obviously, this cannot be done on a DC jack (on this particular version).
2. As soon as the voltage going in exceeds 11.5V, the output turns on with a steady blue status indication.
3. The USB-C version of this adapter supports USB-C Power Delivery (PD2.0) with three selectable voltages 5.00V @ 3.03A, 9.00V @ 2.39A, 12.00V @ 2.31A (there is a 20V version that supposedly does 15 and 20V as well for laptops, but the seller sent me the wrong version).
4. The input side is a 5.5 x 2.5 DC jack, which is somewhat odd as an input because most input jacks use the smaller 5.5 x 2.1 jack (you can use an adapter on it, however).
5. You can see from the tester that this adapter supports pretty much everything, except VOOC/DASH and 20V QC and AFC 12V.
6. QC 2.0 9V engages just fine to charge my older Nexus 6 via a USB-C to USB-A adapter (since the D+/D- lines are intact).
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
tengtengvn said:
I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
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I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
thomast said:
I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
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Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
chowfun said:
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
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Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
tengtengvn said:
Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
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The seller is resending me the 20V version - will let you know how that goes
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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dermotti said:
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk
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Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
tengtengvn said:
Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
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Lol somehow i posted in the wrong thread. Meant to post in the "what usbc are you using for your oneplus"
Facepalm
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Here's an update on the car adapter I have received. Note that the other adapters are still on the slow boat so I will get to them when they arrive. This isn't necessarily what you are after, but nonetheless, it's another interesting toy. If you are interested, it can be found on AliExpress under item number 32916499372.
This is a car charger that accepts 12-24V input, and also supposedly supports multiple fast charging technologies (DASH, VOOC, QC, etc). It comes with an "original" (questionable - but capable of 3.5A charge) DASH cable which is not bad at all for about $13.
Interesting facts:
1) The car charger comes with dual USB ports. One "quick charge" port and one "standard" port. The quick charge port lights up red on one side and the blue indicates the normal charge port. Some may like that it lights up, but my thought is that it's a waste of energy.
2) The Quick Charge port supports all available quick charge methods (the VOOC-DASH section don't light up probably because it doesn't use the same protocol for unblocking DASH charging that the original charger requires).
3) The charger does not require an ID chip on the USB-C cable (unlike the stock charger), which means you can use any USB-A to USB-C cable on the market to activate DASH charging (as long as the D+/D- pins are not shorted out). This car charger doesn't even have the odd PIN in the back of the USB connector for the ID communication.
4) The car charger is not as fast as the stock wall charger, which charges around 3.5A. Here are the test comparisons (allow some current variances due to battery percentage ~70-72% - note all of them had the lightning bolt on the charging indicator which indicated that DASH was indeed activated with none of these cables having D+/D- shorted):
a) Normal, 1 ft USB-A to C Cable: 2.46A
b) Bundled DASH cable, w/ car charger: 2.73A
c) Bundled DASH cable, w/ stock wall charger: 3.5A
d) Normal, 3 ft (Rankie) USB C Cable: 2.56A
e) Normal, 3 ft MicroUSB w/ USB-C Adapter (ANKER): 1.95A
f) Normal, 3 ft multi (MicroUSB + Type C) free conference charging cable: 1.32A (this one did not "pass" the fast charging test because the current is below 1.5A but nonetheless it triggered DASH charging).
Not a big difference if you use quality cables, although don't expect it to charge as fast as the wall charger - nonetheless, it is still doing pretty well with less heat generated due to lesser current.
5) As mentioned previously, the charger supports multiple charging technologies besides DASH, where it activated QC 2.0 9V on my Nexus 6 just fine.
6) Since this adapter allows 12-24V DC input, you can use a DC to lighter adapter to power this device (as you can see in my screenshots I used a laptop battery pack and a 12V router wall brick and it was able to turn on and charge my devices just fine.) This may also be a good way to have a longer reach charging solution since DASH is very cable sensitive and it is best to keep the cable length short to minimize the reduction in charging currents.
Here's a test of the 100 cm noodle cable on AliExpress (item 32806193071):
Using the stock wall charger, charging the phone @ ~50%:
The genuine OnePlus cable was able to charge at 3.657A @ 4.69V (17.15W).
The noodle cable on AliExpress was able to charge at 3.617A @ 4.81V (17.4W).
Based on the results, it seemed like the quality was as good as the genuine cable, at least the copper that is carrying the power to the phone.
Here are the test results of the final adapter I received from WEB- (the specialized VOOC-DASH version - Taobao Item #560336325713):
Stuff to note:
1) This adapter is very similar to the car adapter, in which it supports pretty much all quick charge technologies and it does not require the OnePlus ID chip to activate DASH charging. However, this adapter is QC activated and has a USB-A input interface. Like the car charger, this charger is also not as fast as the stock wall brick, although it is still relatively quick.)
2) The USB pinout schematic also looks the same as the car charger (USB 2.0 with no dangling USB 3.0 pin in the back for ID chip identification).
3) Like the other 12V based WEB- adapters, this one uses the IP6518C chipset, which supports a wide voltage input (10.5V - 32V - from the chipset datasheet).
4) The board looks fairly similar to the USB-C board, except this one has a USB-A input (which is interesting because the board has the DC 12V-24V marking on it still).
5) The board also has the POW and OK lights similar to the USB-C version.
6) Since the board accepts broad input voltages, it is not required to use QC for the input voltage. A USB-A to 5.5 x 2.1 adapter could be used to also provide the DC input, as long as the voltage is above 10.5V.
7) Although the board indeed supports down stepping a 20V DC input, it seems like it is a bit less efficient in doing so than a 12V input.
8) Similar to the previous cable tests, the quality and the length of the cable really makes a difference. The shorter and the better quality cable that is used, the better the charging rate (remember that an official cable does not need to be used for third-party chargers).
9) As mentioned previously, this charger supports other fast charging technologies, like QC2.0 - which works fine in charging my Nexus 6 at 9V.
10) This charger / adapter essentially allows any 12V @ 1.5A output to be a multifunction fast charger w/ DASH support. In my example, I used a Xiaomi router wall brick (12 V @ 1.5A DC) and it charges my phone using DASH at almost 3A output using a short 1ft USB-C cable! (the phone registers the current slightly lower at around 2750mA).
Great info, @chowfun. I was able to purchase 2 OPPO wall chargers from Asia and a 3rd party VOOC car charger which work great.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78182174&postcount=24
I also got the same oneplus flat cable but 150cm length. It works good with no notable slow down.
From your findings, it looks like the WEB- adapter charge slower but that's still plenty fast and much more convenience. :good: Does it generate a lot of heat when charging a low battery?
Nice keyboard, I like it. ?
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I didn't get that one because it had a lower current rating and that the top of the charger is wider than the other one I bought. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those chargers?
Heat wise, it does generate a bit of heat with the conversion. But given that the adapter is housed in an aluminum case it's to be expected. It feels just slightly warm to the touch, but not exactly hot to the touch. Instead of that conversion being done in the phone it's just being done outside the phone which is directing the heat away from the battery...
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Nice keyboard, I like it.
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those charges?
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LOL. My wife doesn't like those RGB lights. lol
The input and output of the OPPO charger look exactly the same as the 1+ charger. It's pretty much identical except for the cosmetic (logo, prints, the USB A female is green). They're selling for $4.

Car charger recommendation - fast charging?

Does anyone know what specification USB C car charger I should buy to charge rapidly? I tried my old OnePlus car charger but that uses a different technology and charges relatively slowly.
I have and use both of these. Work great and no issues so far. Many will recommend Anker too. good luck
https://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-Cha...sprefix=choetech+usb-c+car+,mobile,327&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-Cha...sprefix=choetech+usb-c+car+,mobile,327&sr=8-5
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071WYF9HP/
Worked great on my P2XL and works just as well on the P3aXL.
mesaka said:
Does anyone know what specification USB C car charger I should buy to charge rapidly? I tried my old OnePlus car charger but that uses a different technology and charges relatively slowly.
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I believe it's USB c pd 2.0 (power delivery).
I bought this at Wal-Mart on clearance for $13. It includes the charger and an extra USB c to c cable. It states now "rapidly charging" when connected and it is quite fast. Can't tell about durability since I bought it yesterday. Reviews say it's cheap, but so far so good. If you look for it, make sure it has the USB c to c cable and states 5.2 amps on the box. There is another with a USB a to c and 4.8 amps that is not pd 2.0.
Thanks all,
In the end I bought https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07PN4SKGQ...+charger&qid=1557994468&s=gateway&sr=8-2&th=1 - I liked the form factor and it seems (after 1 day of use) pretty robust.

Question What charger?

So we have the official 30W charger for £25 at Google store, which I believe most people will be going for.
The pixel 6 requires PD 3.0 with PPS for full 30W fast charging. Since chargers will no longer be available in future phones and to avoid buying chargers again in the future when charging speeds increase I thought it might be best to go for a higher charging capacity USB-C PD PSS charger.
Fortunately Spigen have a 45 Watts PD 3.0 PPS charger on amazon with charging cable included.
Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging) at Amazon UK.
www.amazon.co.uk
This should save folks from buying a charger in the future when charging speeds get increased once again.
The good thing is that this one is currently having a 25% off promotion until the end of this month, so turns out cheaper than the official Google fast charger!
sshariff said:
So we have the official 30W charger for £25 at Google store, which I believe most people will be going for.
The pixel 6 requires PD 3.0 with PPS for full 30W fast charging. Since chargers will no longer be available in future phones and to avoid buying chargers again in the future when charging speeds increase I thought it might be best to go for a higher charging capacity USB-C PD PSS charger.
Fortunately Spigen have a 45 Watts PD 3.0 PPS charger on amazon with charging cable included.
Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging) at Amazon UK.
www.amazon.co.uk
This should save folks from buying a charger in the future when charging speeds get increased once again.
The good thing is that this one is currently having a 25% off promotion until the end of this month, so turns out cheaper than the official Google fast charger!
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Stupid question sorry, but if a charger shows fast charging, I guess that means it's fully compatible?
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Stupid question sorry, but if a charger shows fast charging, I guess that means it's fully compatible?
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No its not. It will charge at normal speeds only. For example if you use a oneplus dash charger it won't charge your pixel at 30W.
A handshake for fast charging is made between your phone software and the charger and therefore they both need to adhere to a contract between the two. This is where we need standards so that chargers become compatible across all manufacturers.
Samsung has already moved to PD PPS standards.
Google is trying to push all manufacturers to use PD 3.0 PPS standard so that all become compatible.
Also note that the higher capacity charger you purchase the more future proof you are. For example even with a 45w charger you can't charge your pixel 6 more than 30w as that is what your phone software will allow. But at the same time it means you can use the same charger to fast charge one of your latest Samsung devices at full 45w potential via USB C PD PPS (and potentially future Pixels that allow even faster charging).
I have been looking at this one that looks to be compatible. It doesn't have the future proof of the 45w above as it is 30w - but it is relatively cheap.
Deal: UGREEN 30W USB C Charger Plug PD Type C Wall Charger Adapter Compatible with Macbook Pro 13'', Macbook Air, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPad Pro, iPad Air, Galaxy S21/Tab S6, Google Pixel 5 etc https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0819KTV96/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_DXS1Y2QFKMBJFC7DRF50?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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No its not. It will charge at normal speeds only. For example if you use a oneplus dash charger it won't charge your pixel at 30W.
A handshake for fast charging is made between your phone software and the charger and therefore they both need to adhere to a contract between the two. This is where we need standards so that chargers become compatible across all manufacturers.
Samsung has already moved to PD PPS standards.
Google is trying to push all manufacturers to use PD 3.0 PPS standard so that all become compatible.
Also note that the higher capacity charger you purchase the more future proof you are. For example even with a 45w charger you can't charge your pixel 6 more than 30w as that is what your phone software will allow. But at the same time it means you can use the same charger to fast charge one of your latest Samsung devices at full 45w potential via USB C PD PPS (and potentially future Pixels that allow even faster charging).
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So my phone showing rapid charging, is it compatible?
Also is anyone else finding there phone really hot when charging?
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So my phone showing rapid charging, is it compatible?
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Even if you plug your 18W charger into your phone it will say charging rapidly. It doesn't mean its charging at the full 30W capacity!
Any USB c charger will eventually charge your phone.
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I have been looking at this one that looks to be compatible. It doesn't have the future proof of the 45w above as it is 30w - but it is relatively cheap.
Deal: UGREEN 30W USB C Charger Plug PD Type C Wall Charger Adapter Compatible with Macbook Pro 13'', Macbook Air, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPad Pro, iPad Air, Galaxy S21/Tab S6, Google Pixel 5 etc https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0819KTV96/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_DXS1Y2QFKMBJFC7DRF50?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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That should do as it has the PD 3.0 standard with PPS. A word of note that you will see 30W chargers just with PD 3.0 but no PPS. These will charge slower than those with PPS but should still be more rapid than the previous gen 18W fast charger.
Ordered the Spigen charger thanks for the recommendation.
mitchst2 said:
Ordered the Spigen charger thanks for the recommendation.
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Same, 2 for £58.48
oxfordmark said:
Same, 2 for £58.48
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Got mine before they removed the 25% discount
Just ordered the Spigen 25% discount £22 bargain thanks for heads up
I have had my eye on that spigen charger for a while now. I am actually a big fan of spigen. I have had every pixel and I have used a spigen case for each one.
I actually don't like using those high amp chargers. I only use them when i am in a pinch like i forgot to charge my phone and i gotta go. I use a chargie with a 1amp usb port on my power strip. And i only charge to 80 percent. Again if i am in a pinch or if i know i will be gone from a charger for more than 10 hours i will charge to 100 but that rarely happens. My pixel 4xl used to last all day plus and I had it for 2 years and when i traded it in the battery was still at 98 percent health.
I have a question though since we are talking about chargers. I have a lenovo chromebook that uses a 45w usb c charger. can i use that on my pixel 6? I have the base model 6 not the pro. Or will that damage it? I would assume that it would be ok but just want a second opinion.
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Just ordered the Spigen 25% discount £22 bargain thanks for heads up
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On to Amazon now!
If i ordered today i would be paying around £6 less for two!
This charger oozes quality. It is slightly smaller than the pixel 5 18w charger, comes with a higher quality braided cable, in all much better value than the Google 30w charger.
Indicates it's charging rapidly so hopefully getting full 30w
If you're not testing your charger with a usb C meter of some sort, you're almost certainly not getting 30W.
These pixels appear to have an apple style restriction on chargers. Something many people are missing is that not all PPS chargers are created equally. Google specifies 21v whereas most of the pps chargers on the market top out at 11v.
I've tried 3 different 65W 11v PPS chargers and they all top out at 18-20W.
I then specifically bought a 21v capable charger and still it tops out at 18-20W.
I'm extremely disappointed Google decided to take this anti consumer approach. The chargers I have tried are by all means technologically superior to Google's charger in every way and yet this arbitrary restriction means I'm forced to buy Google's if I want 30W charging.
I can include links/photos/videos if anyone is curious.
mitchst2 said:
Indicates it's charging rapidly so hopefully getting full 30w
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I can almost guarantee it's not. It says charging rapidly for anything above 7.5W.
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I can almost guarantee it's not. It says charging rapidly for anything above 7.5W.
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The Spigen one which complies with the relevant standards?
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Just read your previous post now.
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The Spigen one which complies with the relevant standards?
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Just read your previous post now.
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"Up to 45W(5.0V=3.0A, 9.0V=3.0A, 15.0V=3.0A, 20.0V=2.25A, 3.3V-11.0V=3.5A, 3.3V-16.0V=3.0A)"
^ Taken from the amazon page for the Spigen charger.
No support for 21V so no 30W fast charging. Even if it did support 21V, I doubt it would go over 18-20W, based on my findings.
Of course it's ridiculous because even with "only" 20V, the charger can push 2.25A which is more than enough for 30W charging. I don't understand the point of PPS if the voltage/current combinations are not dynamic. The implementation of PPS so far seems to make a mockery of the intended purpose of the standard.

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I need to buy a new phone mount for my car, so might as well get it with qi charging. Does anyone have a qi car charger they are liking for their Pixel 6?
I just ordered a cheap 15w from eBay which is magsafe suitable. I'll post more infos when it arrives.
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I just ordered a cheap 15w from eBay which is magsafe suitable. I'll post more infos when it arrives.
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link?
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But It will arrive next week
Just got one of these
Auckly Wireless Car Charger, [Electromagnetic Sense] Qi 15W Fast in Car Wireless Charger Automatic Sensor Phone Holder Vent Mount Compatible for S20/S10,for iPhone 12 13 Pro Max Mini 11 Pro XS/XR etc: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Auckly Wireless Car Charger, [Electromagnetic Sense] Qi 15W Fast in Car Wireless Charger Automatic Sensor Phone Holder Vent Mount Compatible for S20/S10,for iPhone 12 13 Pro Max Mini 11 Pro XS/XR etc: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
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Seems to work well so long as you use a QC 3.0 adaptor in the car to power it. Then it charges at around 2A. Works through the case I have and doesn't require a 'magsafe ring/adaptor' stuck to the case to make it stick. The motorized clamp is cool, though the novelty will no doubt wear off soon enough.
I noticed most suggested QC 3 charger so I bought one plug in for my car and replaced my cigarette lighter in the truck with a dedicated USB. What a difference charging. Now I just need to settle on a wireless mount.
Yes, annoying to have to buy a QC3.0 plug when the world is moving to PD
The Pixel 6 uses PPS for the fastest speeds (which is a subset of PD 3.0). So while QS will still charge your phone faster than a standard charger, it is not the standard needed for the fastest charging on this phone.
Anyone looking to purchase a new wired charger for the Pixel 6 series should look for one that has "PPS support" and at least 30 watts of charging power. If you are looking for wireless charging, look for a Qi charger with at least 23 watts of charging power. Anything else is going to provide slower charging speeds.
Edit - I should note that apparently not all PPS chargers are working at max charging speed on the P6 either (even those with 30w or more of power). To be 100% sure your charger will be at max speed, you probably want to buy the Google brand one. Of course this is exactly why Google has made the charger an issue in the first place - to sell their version.
Anyone try these with wired Android Auto? Wondering if that works.
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The Pixel 6 uses PPS for the fastest speeds (which is a subset of PD 3.0). So while QS will still charge your phone faster than a standard charger, it is not the standard needed for the fastest charging on this phone.
Anyone looking to purchase a new wired charger for the Pixel 6 series should look for one that has "PPS support" and at least 30 watts of charging power. If you are looking for wireless charging, look for a Qi charger with at least 23 watts of charging power. Anything else is going to provide slower charging speeds.
Edit - I should note that apparently not all PPS chargers are working at max charging speed on the P6 either (even those with 30w or more of power). To be 100% sure your charger will be at max speed, you probably want to buy the Google brand one. Of course this is exactly why Google has made the charger an issue in the first place - to sell their version.
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Not a fan of fast charging myself - just reliable (wireless) charging But certainly I would only recommend a QC 3.0 device to enable a Qi charger to charge reliably where PD was not an option for it. The Qi charger I referenced does work using a conventional 2.4A 5V car adaptor, but the battery % stays the same (it doesn't go up or discharge) so it's only offsetting the discharge rate of the phone.
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Yes, annoying to have to buy a QC3.0 plug when the world is moving to PD
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Fortunately I was sure to buy chargers that had 1 PD and 1 standard to keep options open.
I use a Course Mount which is car specific.
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sic0048 said:
The Pixel 6 uses PPS for the fastest speeds (which is a subset of PD 3.0). So while QS will still charge your phone faster than a standard charger, it is not the standard needed for the fastest charging on this phone.
Anyone looking to purchase a new wired charger for the Pixel 6 series should look for one that has "PPS support" and at least 30 watts of charging power. If you are looking for wireless charging, look for a Qi charger with at least 23 watts of charging power. Anything else is going to provide slower charging speeds.
Edit - I should note that apparently not all PPS chargers are working at max charging speed on the P6 either (even those with 30w or more of power). To be 100% sure your charger will be at max speed, you probably want to buy the Google brand one. Of course this is exactly why Google has made the charger an issue in the first place - to sell their version.
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Not even the Google 30w charger puts out the full 30w. There's an article on Android authority.
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I use a Course Mount which is car specific.
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That's a nice little unit. I do like vehicle specific designs.
I got a magsafe compatible wireless charger with a QC 3.0 adapter.
On first test with an approx 30 min drive and gps I lost 2% battery and phone was hot.
Second test with gps and approx same drive i gained 2% battery and phone was warm.
Last try and with screen off/no gps, I gained 20% battery and phone felt normal.
I was wondering if a wireless charger with a fan would work better but for now will just plug in if i want to use gps.

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