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I watched a movie with software decoding on my non-overclocked Archos 101G9 Turbo 1.5GHz, and after I've checked sensor info, CPU temp was at 84 degrees Celsius, with Omap4 critical 85 degrees Celsius.
I think it's definitely not good. Is there any hw tweaks around to lower CPU temperatures? Maybe some thermal paste would help?
Is there some software that will decrease frequencies on near-critical temperatures (>75)?
Can anyone post your OMAP temp values on the 1.5GHz models?
When I ran Antutu benchmark - OMAP temp raise to nearly 90 degrees celsius. It's critical for the CPU according to the specs.
Is the sensor failing - is what I'm trying to understand.
Thanks for your time.
theadenter said:
Can anyone post your OMAP temp values on the 1.5GHz models?
When I ran Antutu benchmark - OMAP temp raise to nearly 90 degrees celsius. It's critical for the CPU according to the specs.
Is the sensor failing - is what I'm trying to understand.
Thanks for your time.
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I have a G9 80 Turbo 1.5 GHz.
While I was watching a live stream a couple of days ago, and the*CPU was at 1.5GHz constantly the temperature was around 70 C. I reduced the CPU clock to 1.2, and the teperature dropped to 60. I left it there to see if there is a gain in battery life. More testing needed.
Will try to run some stress tests later.
http://www.ti.com/pdfs/wtbu/OMAP4460_ES1.x_DM_Public_Book_V_A.pdf
Thermal Management
For reliability and operability concerns, the absolute maximum junction temperature of OMAP4460 has to
be below 125ºC and the maximum average junction temperature has to be below 110ºC.
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I think I worried too much.
theadenter said:
http://www.ti.com/pdfs/wtbu/OMAP4460_ES1.x_DM_Public_Book_V_A.pdf
I think I worried too much.
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OK. But you're diligence has definitely been useful to other users.
Good info, thanks for sharing your research.
Sent from my ARCHOS 101 G9 16GB Turbo using XDA app
There's something odd with Snapdragon 625 on RN4 (according to me).
I have noticed that the maximum clock is half of the times coming down to 1.6GHz or less instead of 2.0GHz, especially when charging when the phone is warm (but temperature isn't high enough to trigger down clocking-- around 30-40 degree Celsius).
This also happens when the phone is not charging and I am doing some task like using apps or playing games when the phone's hardly heating up (afterall, SD 625 is known for its no heating issues).
It looks like whenever I am doing some task that doesn't involve much processing, the max clock comes down (but when I am performing some CPU intensive task such as installing an app, the max clock stays at 2GHz).
I am using interactive governor. PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT THE MAXIMUM CPU CLOCK WHICH IS AFFECTED IN MY CASE. Using Kernel Adiutor to reset max freq. to 2GHz hardly works. It seems like the system ignores my clock settings. Even if i set the governor to performance, the max clock still keeps coming down and going up.
What's the deal with this processor?
Also, all the 8 cores are ALWAYS ON. There's no option for CPU hotplug in Kernel Adiutor.
Please someone shed some light over this.
CPU is thermal throttling not only when CPU is hot, but also when battery is hot. Also it is using a frequency which it needs, if it's using 1.6ghz it means it doesnt need more for whatever you have been doing.
k3lcior said:
CPU is thermal throttling not only when CPU is hot, but also when battery is hot. Also it is using a frequency which it needs, if it's using 1.6ghz it means it doesnt need more for whatever you have been doing.
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It also happens when the phone is not warm/hot.
Please note that I'm not talking about the current frequency that is being used, I AM TALKING ABOUT THE MAX FREQ that is pulled down and up when I am working (even when just simply using the phone for little tasks which doesn't really heat the phone up).
While using any governor, the max freq should stick to what it is set to and the current freq varies. But here, the max freq is varying along with the current freq. Is this some feature or what?
If this is actually due to heating, is the management so bad that even 35-40 degree celsius makes the CPU throttle? Generally throttling happens at much higher temperatures.
This is 14nm SoC, it has much lower temperatures but also much lower max temp. (throttling start on lower temps)
You can't heat up this CPU to 60C or more like Snapdragon 8xx for example, because it will shut down.
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This is 14nm SoC, it has much lower temperatures but also much lower max temp. (throttling start on lower temps)
You can't heat up this CPU to 60C or more like Snapdragon 8xx for example, because it will shut down.
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LOL means I can't make good use of the 2GHz 8 core CPU for long because it'll heat up and simply throttle down. That's too stupid to have a powerful processor.
i am having heating issue. I found no thread discussing.. I am in Miui9 global beta version. Rooted withMagisk using redwolf twrp. My top part of screen heats in normal usage for 5 minute in wifi/data.I have checked the cpu temp( maximum 42) and battery tem( 36 to 38)..But the screen become hot..any work around? Is it a software or hardware issue? how to resolve it
Hi, what is the normal peak CPU temperature for the phone? Mine is going above 90 on the antutu stess-test. I feel it pretty hot around the back camera. Is this normal or my unit is faulty? Thank you.
Is that degree fahrenheit or degree celsius?
Hi, it is Celsius. Please note this is the CPU temp. The battery temp was in low 40s at that time.
Could anybody please run the 15 minute Anutu stress-test and check where the CPU temp goes in Celsius? Thanks!
I've seen several videos on YouTube, the temperatures never raise above 45 degrees celsius, even after an our of playing PUBG. So I think there's definitely something wrong with your device.
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Could anybody please run the 15 minute Anutu stress-test and check where the CPU temp goes in Celsius? Thanks!
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It's odd but I have bad experiences with the older 800 series of Snapdragons. I'm still holding off Pocophone for the SD636 or SD660 until I'm sure it doesn't lead to me frying an egg with the phone after playing for 30 minutes.
Lazy Rich said:
I've seen several videos on YouTube, the temperatures never raise above 45 degrees celsius, even after an our of playing PUBG. So I think there's definitely something wrong with your device.
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Playing youtube 4k video and the CPU is around 40c as well. Please note these are CPU temps I am talking about, not the battery temp which is in low 40s when the CPU goes above 90.
If possible please run the antutu stress-test for a couple of minutes and advise on the peaks. Thanks!
Just played pubg for 20 min on the default settings - CPU temp peaked at 46 C. I guess this is normal but why does it spikes in 90s on the antutu stress test...
Run Antutu test again 264k, temp spiking in 80s here in there at the end was 33 C.
Please advise if this sounds normal.
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Just played pubg for 20 min on the default settings - CPU temp peaked at 46 C. I guess this is normal but why does it spikes in 90s on the antutu stress test...
Run Antutu test again 264k, temp spiking in 80s here in there at the end was 33 C.
Please advise if this sounds normal.
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That 80c spike has got to be erroneous. That's 176F, which would melt the back cover and everything else inside.
yes it is true
I have the same experience. Run antutu and watch the temps using CPU float when it starts the CPU benchmark. Boy, it went all the to 95 C then goes back to 60 and 90 until the cpu part is finished. While gaming, this wont happen as the cpu will throttle depending how hot the battery temps. I posted the thread here at https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/how-to/phone-throttles-cpu-gpu-t3839525 so you can see the effect of battery temps on cpu performance.
My question is more like how antutu's cpu test really stress the phone. I run HWBot with cpu float and the maximum temp i was able to get was like 70-75 C while antutu can shoot the cpu up to high 80's to 90's in even cold phone state.
I think it is due to the fact that most of the companies optimise their software in such a way that the benchmarking apps consume the full CPU usage regardless of thermal throttling. OnePlus did this with their phones. My old leeco phone had the same optimization that it automatically utilized full CPU power in benchmarking apps. So I think similar is the case with Xiaomi's Poco f1
Poco F1 cpu temperature reaches 96 °C in Antutu
Neznam123 said:
Hi, what is the normal peak CPU temperature for the phone? Mine is going above 90 on the antutu stess-test. I feel it pretty hot around the back camera. Is this normal or my unit is faulty? Thank you.
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Mine too.It goes up to 96 C , then 60+., 70+ then again 96 degrees Celsius in Antutu stress test.
And in heavy apps goes beyond 60 °C.
I bought the phone from Romania, where I live.
I have a different problem, i too use poco f1, my benchmarks are around 4500 at 36 degree celcius wheras it is 8000 at 30. So is it the same with everyone?
I was using Havoc OS with derp kernels for quite a long time, and used to play PUBG alot , so recently from past few weeks cpu temperature is reaching about 60°c (Maybe because of summer season) and then cpu starts to throttle.
Then I recently switched to Oxygen OS and when my temperature reaches 60°c something ,it doesn't throttle. (Maybe because oos uses different thermal profile)
So my questions are :
1. If it doesn't throttle above 60°c then could it harm my device?
2. What's the highest maximum temperature which wouldn't harm my device?
On Maximum 48-50 Degree Can Harm Your Device Chipset.
If You are on Latest OOS 25Build.
Then Install BuildProp Editor and Change The Value Stock Thermals False To True.
Reboot To Apply.
60 C Can Damage Your Device.
Smartphones Are Automatically Switch off When Reached to maximium Temperature 50-50.
Olystem said:
On Maximum 48-50 Degree Can Harm Your Device Chipset.
If You are on Latest OOS 25Build.
Then Install BuildProp Editor and Change The Value Stock Thermals False To True.
Reboot To Apply.
60 C Can Damage Your Device.
Smartphones Are Automatically Switch off When Reached to maximium Temperature 50-50.
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I have changed my rom to Pixel Experience, & now the temperature is just between 45-55 while playing games, but most of the time temperature was around 50°c . I think the problem was because of kernel or rom. Don't know the exact reason.
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I have changed my rom to Pixel Experience, & now the temperature is just between 45-55 while playing games, but most of the time temperature was around 50°c . I think the problem was because of kernel or rom. Don't know the exact reason.
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Flash Stock ROM Latest Version Then Check.
It's Not Normal.
Till Then Don't play the Games.
I also Facing same issue while playing games 44-46.
I think problem related to latest vendor.
Olystem said:
Flash Stock ROM Latest Version Then Check.
It's Not Normal.
Till Then Don't play the Games.
I also Facing same issue while playing games 44-46.
I think problem related to latest vendor.
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I switched to miui , not doing any heavy or performance requiring task, still this temperature.
P.s: I have applied Gadgeshildz skin on my Poco,do u think this could be the reason?
-TheKoolAnie- said:
I switched to miui , not doing any heavy or performance requiring task, still this temperature.
P.s: I have applied Gadgeshildz skin on my Poco,do u think this could be the reason?
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I didn't think the skin causing that issue.
Hello Bro This is CPU Temperature CPU Has a Limit to of 70-100 max .
This is Normal.
That is Thermal Profile.
If The Temperature Reach That Limit it Will Decrease The Performance.
Check Your Battery Temperature.
Check This.
This is mine.
In oxygen OS with Stock Kernel.
Olystem said:
Hello Bro This is CPU Temperature CPU Has a Limit to of 70-100 max .
This is Normal.
That is Thermal Profile.
If The Temperature Reach That Limit it Will Decrease The Performance.
Check Your Battery Temperature.
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I didn't understand your point.
Why is it normal? Temperature is reaching above 55°c which isn't normal.
Btw when I play pubg, battery temperature reaches to 46°c but when I took screen shot temperature was 40°c.
If battery temperature Reached to 47-55 degree that's not normal.
Your SS Shows thermal profile temperature not the CPU temperature.
CPU and GPU are components inside your phone and they heat from 40 -80 degree Celsius pretty fast in every phone. They can handle upto
Olystem said:
CPU and GPU are components inside your phone and they heat from 40 -80 degree Celsius pretty fast in every phone. They can handle upto
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As you can read in op ,I was talking about CPU temperature from starting. So when I play pubg and temperature reaches to 55°c so it's Safe? I got confused.
CPU and GPU are components inside your phone and they heat from 40 -80 degree Celsius pretty fast in every phone. They can handle upto
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Cpu temperature is Normal 40-80 degree.
Bro it's normal.
I am talking about battery temperature.
Working temps in heavy workloads (Games, YouTube, Split-screen/Dual screen, etc.) is around 60°c and it is quite normal but above 75°c thats when you expect damage to the system. According to other XDA Thread, https://www.xda-developers.com/processor-temperature-results-for-tens-of-socs-how-hot-is-your-chip/ Maximum Temperature recorded on a Qualcomm Device (It uses MSM8225Q Chipset) is 63.88°c
Expect Qualcomm that makes powerful and energy efficient SOCs even operating in high temperatures.
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Working temps in heavy workloads (Games, YouTube, Split-screen/Dual screen, etc.) is around 60°c and it is quite normal but above 75°c thats when you expect damage to the system. According to other XDA Thread, https://www.xda-developers.com/processor-temperature-results-for-tens-of-socs-how-hot-is-your-chip/ Maximum Temperature recorded on a Qualcomm Device (It uses MSM8225Q Chipset) is 63.88°c
Expect Qualcomm that makes powerful and energy efficient SOCs even operating in high temperatures.
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So that means i shouldn't worry about below 60°c cpu temperature while playing game in hot environmen ( around 40°c)
-TheKoolAnie- said:
So that means i shouldn't worry about below 60°c cpu temperature while playing game in hot environmen ( around 40°c)
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Its fine. Just don't let it work around 70°c above.
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Its fine. Just don't let it work around 70°c above.
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If he uses the default thermal profile, he won't reach above 70, well it shouldn't as the phone will throttle. That's the whole idea of throttling, to lower the temperatures to protect the CPU or GPU from any damage. Also, even if you reach a higher temperature then 70, at one point, the phone will switch off in order to protect itself from any damage. Well, in most cases.
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If he uses the default thermal profile, he won't reach above 70, well it shouldn't as the phone will throttle. That's the whole idea of throttling, to lower the temperatures to protect the CPU or GPU from any damage. Also, even if you reach a higher temperature then 70, at one point, the phone will switch off in order to protect itself from any damage. Well, in most cases.
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Btw every custom rom has its own throttling points for example :
Havoc os start to Throttle around 53°c
Whereas pixel experience throttles about 57_58°c
But in miui cpu temp reached above 60°c for few seconds still it doesn't throttle.
ekin_strops said:
If he uses the default thermal profile, he won't reach above 70, well it shouldn't as the phone will throttle. That's the whole idea of throttling, to lower the temperatures to protect the CPU or GPU from any damage. Also, even if you reach a higher temperature then 70, at one point, the phone will switch off in order to protect itself from any damage. Well, in most cases.
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Poco doesn't have automatic shutdown when overheating, but just a overheating notification. (Like in S10+) But maybe in a certain temperature, Poco has a built-in safety switch to automatically shutdown the device to prevent possible damage
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Poco doesn't have automatic shutdown when overheating, but just a overheating notification. (Like in S10+) But maybe in a certain temperature, Poco has a built-in safety switch to automatically shutdown the device to prevent possible damage
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Even the old Redmi note 4 had that switch, so i'm pretty sure they have it in Poco too.
My temps used to hover around 32*c back then before the MIUI Global Beta 10 9.3.28 came out. I forgot which beta version I was in. I was all stock with no root. While gaming, my temps would go as much as 37*c but never more than it.
Right now, I've tried MIUI EU and Global Beta and most of the time, my normal temps are around 38*c.
Hi Guys. I play Black desert mobile on poco and when I have High graphics the gpu usage is around 30% while the cpu is 25%. Everything is ok, I can't say something about that. The point is that when I set the graphics to max settings, the usage of the graphics card goes between 35% - 60% and the processor is around 35%. For this reason, I would like you to tell me, how much the usage of gpu affects the overall 'health' and performance of the mobile, if it matters at all . What I mean is, whether it is 30% or 60%, will it affect the mobile in general? For example, I can use max graphics all the time without damaging the phone?
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Hi Guys. I play Black desert mobile on poco and when I have High graphics the gpu usage is around 30% while the cpu is 25%. Everything is ok, I can't say something about that. The point is that when I set the graphics to max settings, the usage of the graphics card goes between 35% - 60% and the processor is around 35%. For this reason, I would like you to tell me, how much the usage of gpu affects the overall 'health' and performance of the mobile, if it matters at all . What I mean is, whether it is 30% or 60%, will it affect the mobile in general? For example, I can use max graphics all the time without damaging the phone?
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Anyone has an answer ?
I can use max graphics all the time without damaging the phone
I am always playing game max graphics
Poco have 845 and liquid cooler
AsusZenFone3Deluxe said:
I can use max graphics all the time without damaging the phone
I am always playing game max graphics
Poco have 845 and liquid cooler
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Ok thank you. Are you sure though ? I mean have you checked if there is any difference between the battery power after and before playing for many hours ? Or with the performance in general? Because I can play sometimes many hours a day.