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Glad Sprint is taking the lead and getting rid of this!
http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...s-disabling-controversial-carrier-iq-software
+1 I don't think the photon has it anyway but good stuff sprint and thanks for the link!
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kwazytazz said:
+1 I don't think the photon has it anyway but good stuff sprint and thanks for the link!
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The Photon doesn't have it, never has.
Another good reason to root and use custom ROMs
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The Photon doesn't have it, never has.
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Actually, I believe that stock Photon does have it. Lookout Security has a Carrier IQ detector in the marketplace. I found Carrier IQ on my stock photon. I installed cybik's CM7 and voila, no more Carrier IQ.
I have 3 issues here, #1. Carrier IQ and Sprint are clearly lying and this guy proved it. Maybe yes, they only use the network part of it, but they are clearly collecting everything else.
#2 No one ever asked me? If you asked me, I could make a choice (I likely would not, but still.)
#2. I have all my banking information that I access and other passwords from my Photon. So any hacker with 1/2 a brain could collect the same file and act as if he were me?
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I have 3 issues here, #1. Carrier IQ and Sprint are clearly lying and this guy proved it. Maybe yes, they only use the network part of it, but they are clearly collecting everything else.
#2 No one ever asked me? If you asked me, I could make a choice (I likely would not, but still.)
#2. I have all my banking information that I access and other passwords from my Photon. So any hacker with 1/2 a brain could collect the same file and act as if he were me?
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the photon doesnt have any known version of ciq on it... seriously guys im friends with k0nane... i had him check it out... not saying there isnt some new ****.. but all current forms of ciq that are documented are not here
1) cant always believe what you see.. i mean honetsly i dont know treve.. but as a dev i respect what hes done.. but he isnt playing on alevel feild IMO.. he is using a rooted phone and he isnt looking thru ciq's logs its adb logcat which... logs everything
#2 part one P i know im sorry im a jerk) you signed sprints contract right? did you really read all the terms of service? i sure as hell didnt but how much you wanna bet there is something in teh contract that says they can do that? :O
#2 part 2 there is only 2 ways this is gunna happen.. someone has a cell tower mocked up to intercept your cell signal and catch teh packets as they pass... or.. someone has physical access to your phone... at which point its moot because from what im guessing you save all your passwords etc?
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Actually, I believe that stock Photon does have it. Lookout Security has a Carrier IQ detector in the marketplace. I found Carrier IQ on my stock photon. I installed cybik's CM7 and voila, no more Carrier IQ.
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I tested my phone with Lookout Security and the other app that tests for this. The Photon DOES NOT have Carrier IQ.
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I tested my phone with Lookout Security and the other app that tests for this. The Photon DOES NOT have Carrier IQ.
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Are you using a custom ROM? Unless you are on stock, you probably won't see it. The stock photon, does in fact have CIQ on it.
how about you go through init.rc and teh smali in services.jar and tell me that
trustgo mobile security cannot find it.
lookout says i do not have it
voovoo carrier iq detector says no
kinetoo carrier detector says NOT DETECTED
anti-ciq says " no needs to protect your phone"
ciq process killer says its not active
carrier iq cleaner told me congratulations your device does not have carrier iq
for ****s sake people.... take teh tinfoil off your head.. no one is gunna steal your gummy bears...
P.S these are all apps freely available on the market...
if you really want ill take teh time and learn how to make an app it will stop carrier iq on ths photon and atrix. but cuz of the time needed ill be charging 47 bucks per download let me know i i have any interested buyers...
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Are you using a custom ROM? Unless you are on stock, you probably won't see it. The stock photon, does in fact have CIQ on it.
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^ is sadly mistaken
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Are you using a custom ROM? Unless you are on stock, you probably won't see it. The stock photon, does in fact have CIQ on it.
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Nope, this was and still is the stock ROM. Why don't you pay attention to what Shabby says, unless you're trying to troll.
Stock Photon does not have carrier IQ.
There is a small chance there might be some really new version of CIQ that nobody knows about, but no currently known versions of CIQ exist on a stock Photon.
@Shabby and your original post.
1. You are NOT a jerk. Right or wrong, everyone here has opinions. We collect them and try to get a solution to fix something, learn something, make something easier or look better. This does not make you a jerk.
#2 Part one: You are ALMOST correct. When I originally got Sprint, I did not read the contract. I signed it and grabbed the phone. When I got Evo, I did read the ENTIRE contract (Unlimited Data has it's limitations, such as using Photon as web server, streaming Porn website........)
#2 Part two: What about the phone hacking scandal in the UK? would that not go against what you stated? I mentione it because it's in the news today.
gsm has had a major exploit for a long time. ive yet to hear of anyone doing taht with cdma.. not to say that it cant happen... but really you have a much better chance of being phished... the odds that someone is smart enough to be able to build a fake tower, program it, collect your info and then use it (without being caught) in your local area (im talking within a mile of you at most)... just seems rather unlikley ya know?
and im sure in teh contract or in teh terms of service you agree to "network services" which can and do include everything we could possibly imagine :/
as for the jerk bit it was more of a reference that you had 2 2's in your first post and skipped #3
just read up on the uk stuff sounds like it was a hack done on the voicemail of a little girl who went missing... my guess is that the "media" doesnt understand teh difference between hacking a phone and dialing it and pressing every combination to get into her voicemail....
DAMM YOU JERK!!!!
I assume your GSM comment is because GSM is Global, so it has a much larger window for hackers. South Korea has WCDMA, but our CDMA cannot use it (Well, my Evo did not work!)
I did read the entire contract, have to admit, I did not understand 99.999999% of it. Just the what you can and cannot do with unlimted data.
As for the UK thing, now thinking, you are again correct. Anyone with a little time on their hands could get into your voicemail.
gsm has had a lot of flaws in it for a long time
also those gsm bastards got you again.. wcdma is a gsm technoloy cdma and cdma2000 are the ones most commonly used over here for "cdma"
Back on Topic, I would really like to see where this goes, I have personal reasons. Remember Apple got caught with their pants down and it dropped off. Now Carrier IQ.................
I have been in IT for over 25 years. All it takes is one bad Computer Operator at Sprint..............Granted, the chances of one of them getting MY data, looking at my Bank of America logon and PW, PowerBall or MegaMillion is better.
good to know and a valid reason to root root my phone!
Just tested my stock photon, no carrier IQ. Heres the proof i am rooted but i doubt that has anything to do with it
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In many howto's and other threads it often says "If your atrix is ATT do this, if it's Bell/Intl/whatever do that". Problem is, I have no idea which one of these i have, or what the differences are.
So, does anyone knows what's the difference between these versions, and if there's a way to check which one I have?
If it is still running Stock software then you can check the "splash screen" during boot. Also, the AT&T version has their logo on the back/battery cover.
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In many howto's and other threads it often says "If your atrix is ATT do this, if it's Bell/Intl/whatever do that". Problem is, I have no idea which one of these i have, or what the differences are.
So, does anyone knows what's the difference between these versions, and if there's a way to check which one I have?
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I got it with a non-stock ROM, so that one doesn't help.
So if it doesn't say AT&T anywhere on the back, can i count on it not being the AT&T version?
Is it MB860, ME860 or MB861?
It says MB860 under the battery.
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Is it MB860, ME860 or MB861?
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yonizaf said:
It says MB860 under the battery.
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That really doesn't help since they use the "MB860" model number for more than one version, including AT&T. I believe that is the model number for the Bell and Orange versions as well.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure about that.
(Additionally, a quick Google search also brings up Vodafone and maybe more?)
But if it doesn't say AT&T on the back then it's probably not AT&T.
It's true MB860 is used for more than one provider...If you have the product code something like SJUxxxx then we can get very specific to what country the phone is destined for
There's SJUG5964BB in there. is that it? Does that help any?
go to motorolas website enter your imei number in the "check warrenty section and it will give you the "stock description ",of the phone and if you bought it new the date it was activated and weather or not there is a warrenty left on it but It will tell you the specifics of the phone like mine AT&t en us mb860 blabla
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Didn't work for me.
It said "Your phone is in Warranty - Expires x/y/z" and that's it. No product description or any other useful info.
Unless I'm looking in the wrong place?
I will try to find out for you.
But since a whole lot of websites in Chinese popped up, I bet it's probably a Hong Kong model.
exact same problem
hi, I have the same exact reference of the OP phone, in case its a chinesse phone it is possible to unlock/root?? it's there any guide for doing it without briking the device?
I almost use the Automatic bootloader UNLOCK/ROOT guide. but i think it'll brik my phone.
I was able to get some more information but not enough to tell you where that handset was supposed to go.
It's definitely NOT AT&T...But it wasn't coded for a specific region/provider so it's more of a universal/international version.
So now, if I want to go back to stock firmware (or whatever it's called), how do I know which one is right for my device?
things to check
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I got it with a non-stock ROM, so that one doesn't help.
So if it doesn't say AT&T anywhere on the back, can i count on it not being the AT&T version?
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I can think of a couple of ways to check if your phone's not running the stock ROM AND if you're not rooted:
* Are you able to tether Wifi? On AT&T phones, the tethering is disabled unless you 'activate' it by contacting them
* The system build details on the 'Settings->About phone' page should give a clue. Maybe you could post them here?
I'm trying to decide what model to buy. I'm not from US and I'll not use my cellphone there.
I've noticed that there are plenty of US variants. Since I'm not used to all of these, can somebody tell me what is the support for these variants out of US? I mean, OS Updates, Custom ROMs and even parts.
I'll take a GS2 to my country (Brazil) and I don't want to get there and find out that I'm stuck with a nice phone but that will not work properly, will not have updates and will not have parts for it, including nobody wanting to buy it as well.
Thanks for your advise.
gsmarena for differences
Ok, Atfish, let me add something to my first post: I ALREADY checked Gsmarena for all variants, even Wiki for that. I'm not asking about hardware specifics, I'm talking about personal experience, ROM update, parts, etc. As I said, I'm planning on buying one when I arrive in USA, but don't know what could be the problems faced after I leave the country with a US variant (band problem already checked as well).
I know that Cianogen supports AT&T, for example, but none of the others. So, accordingly to knowledge AT&T is the closest thing to the standard I9100, but it doesn't mean that I'll be able to have all the privileges of a I9100. I'm looking for the closest thing to the I9100 that I can buy, since all US variants are always 30-50% cheaper than the International version.
Thanks, though.
Get the I9100. Plenty of custom firmware. Most common variant. Should work with most networks in most parts of the world.
Parts ? What have parts got to do with anything ? Your phone breaks or doesn't work, you send it in to Samsung/an authorised repairer for warranty service or take it to a mobile repair shop if it's out of warranty.
Why would you even consider a US variant? The one for Sprint is designed for CDMA networks, and probably won't even work for any of the carriers in Brazil, and the ATT and T-mobile USA variants will both have a bunch of branding. And the T-mobile USA variant uses slightly different frequencies than the ATT one, so you would have to do your due diligence with researching which one would work with your carrier. An un-branded i9100 is your best bet.
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Get the I9100. Plenty of custom firmware. Most common variant. Should work with most networks in most parts of the world.
Parts ? What have parts got to do with anything ? Your phone breaks or doesn't work, you send it in to Samsung/an authorised repairer for warranty service or take it to a mobile repair shop if it's out of warranty.
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Mistah, you think it's not worth pay a little bit less for any of the US variants? I prefer to get the I9100, but the other are always cheaper.
Parts. Remember, I'll be outside of US, so get support for a US variant out of US could be very tricky.
ctomgee, thanks. I'm start to think that paying less now could cost me a lot more in the future.
I can't comment on that, because I don't own one of the US variants. What I do know is the I9100 is the 'most common' variant & it's easy to get help with it on places like XDA & there is plenty of custom firmware & mods for it.
We have a number of Brazilian members here on XDA who have the I9100, which suggests it works well with the networks in that country, and I'd be surprised if you didn't have repairers in the major cities at least who couldn't easily repair an I9100.
Up to you whether you want to get a cheaper US variant. Maybe ask on the specific boards on XDA devoted to those phones to get an idea from people who actually own those phones ?
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Mistah, you think it's not worth pay a little bit less for any of the US variants? I prefer to get the I9100, but the other are always cheaper.
Parts. Remember, I'll be outside of US, so get support for a US variant out of US could be very tricky.
ctomgee, thanks. I'm start to think that paying less now could cost me a lot more in the future.
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I can't comment on that, because I don't own one of the US variants. What I do know is the I9100 is the 'most common' variant & it's easy to get help with it on places like XDA & there is plenty of custom firmware & mods for it.
We have a number of Brazilian members here on XDA who have the I9100, which suggests it works well with the networks in that country, and I'd be surprised if you didn't have repairers in the major cities at least who couldn't easily repair an I9100.
Up to you whether you want to get a cheaper US variant. Maybe ask on the specific boards on XDA devoted to those phones to get an idea from people who actually own those phones ?
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I came here just to check the general idea of I9100 owners. Sometimes there are things pretty obvious about some variants that I, as a totally new user to Android, have no idea.
I used a lot XDA during my Windows Mobile experience, tested several different ROMs and tools, but since 3-4 years ago I don't have any phone that actually requires my visit here (Blackberry, in that case). So I've dug up a bit to know more about the different versions in order to know where I was going into. But I couldn't decide without coming here and checking with the XDA community, since I'll use for sure the ROMs and Tools available here on this phone.
With the answers that I've got so far it's pretty clear that it would be a mistake to buy a variant, specially not being a US resident.
Thanks, again, for your help.
better to ask that in att forum as we are not using the variants.....
plus i dont know where you get that impression that us variants are cheaper....!
they are not see the full price not contract price
atifsh said:
better to ask that in att forum as we are not using the variants.....
plus i dont know where you get that impression that us variants are cheaper....!
they are not see the full price not contract price
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Where? eBay, Craiglist, Amazon... I'm not talking about phone with contract here, just carrier branded. A lot of times they are unlocked, but still branded.
I think I already bothered too much here, don't know if I want to annoy people there asking silly questions.
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Where? eBay, Craiglist, Amazon... I'm not talking about phone with contract here, just carrier branded. A lot of times they are unlocked, but still branded.
I think I already bothered too much here, don't know if I want to annoy people there asking silly questions.
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This is not a silly question at all.
From what I know, the ATT 3G one is closest to i9100 international. These phones are lightweight and have better screen (better clarity and contrast, not much though) than the 4.5 inch variants like Tmobile.
Tmobile has 4G and there are still a decent selection of roms.
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This is not a silly question at all.
From what I know, the ATT 3G one is closest to i9100 international. These phones are lightweight and have better screen (better clarity and contrast, not much though) than the 4.5 inch variants like Tmobile.
Tmobile has 4G and there are still a decent selection of roms.
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Thanks for your info!
I've noticed, when looking for a Windows Phone for my wife, that the AT&T version could be normally used in Brazil. The frequencies are basically the same.
From what I have found out the AT&T version was the closest one, just wanted to have a confirmation. Thanks for that.
I have an ATT GS2 running cm9 and I would like to be able to use it for the year I will be in Korea.
Is it possible to simply flash a korean modem and have it work here? (does that question even make sense?) Or am I SOL because I don't have the international version?
All I want is to be able to stick in a korean sim card (from South Korean Telecom) and have it work, if I am misinformed or simply uninformed about the steps needed to make that work please let me know.
I've been a lurker for awhile and this is the first problem I've had where I actually have needed to post. Any replies are sincerely appreciated
PS: I know I am a n00b and n00bs creating threads is like the worst thing ever, but I searched the forums for a good long while before posting. I also posted this question in the i9100 forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28207590#post28207590), but nobody replied.
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I have an ATT GS2 running cm9 and I would like to be able to use it for the year I will be in Korea.
Is it possible to simply flash a korean modem and have it work here? (does that question even make sense?) Or am I SOL because I don't have the international version?
All I want is to be able to stick in a korean sim card (from South Korean Telecom) and have it work, if I am misinformed or simply uninformed about the steps needed to make that work please let me know.
I've been a lurker for awhile and this is the first problem I've had where I actually have needed to post. Any replies are sincerely appreciated
PS: I know I am a n00b and n00bs creating threads is like the worst thing ever, but I searched the forums for a good long while before posting. I also posted this question in the i9100 forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28207590#post28207590), but nobody replied.
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You obviously did NOT search, reporting thread
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Nick281051 said:
You obviously did NOT search, reporting thread
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If the answer is out there and you found it where I could not, I apologize, but I would really appreciate it if you could let me know (a) the process that you used to find it and/or (b) the thread(s) with the answer to my question.
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If the answer is out there and you found it where I could not, I apologize, but I would really appreciate it if you could let me know (a) the process that you used to find it and/or (b) the thread(s) with the answer to my question.
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Unlock it, simple
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Try howardforums.com lots of knowledgeable people there that could possibly help
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nyamoV2 said:
Try howardforums.com lots of knowledgeable people there that could possibly help
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I am glad you sent me there, it has a lot of information but most of it is from 2008 or so, and I'm not sure if it is entirely relevant to my situation
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Unlock it, simple
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My phone is unlocked and I put an SKT sim in it today and although it did not come up with a sim rejected message there was no cell service. I have heard about the modem that is flashed on your phone affecting cell service, so do you think I should find a korean modem and flash it on my phone? If not what can I do?
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My phone is unlocked and I put an SKT sim in it today and although it did not come up with a sim rejected message there was no cell service. I have heard about the modem that is flashed on your phone affecting cell service, so do you think I should find a korean modem and flash it on my phone? If not what can I do?
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This is not an area that I know very much about, but I can give you some things to look into. First, as far as I know, you can only use an AT&T modem on the I777. There are a few options posted in the development forum, but they all work with the frequencies available on AT&T towers. I know the I777 is used in India, and a few other countries successfully, but I don't know about Korea. You have to look at what frequency your cell service is on, compared to the frequencies availabe on this phone. I'm guessing that you have a mis-match, but you'll have to do the research. So your original statement is probably true, that you would need the international version of the phone.
Edit: Did some looking around. You still need to check the frequency issue, but the main issue is that the SK sim card is locked, and you have to complete the following, which I grabbed from another forum:
For those of you who may not know, the rule currently is that every phone model that is not sold in Korea must be cleared by Korean Communications. They have an updated list of all models that have gone through testing and have been cleared so far (the N900 was already tested by someone else so I did not have to get recertification). The only requirement for me was to have the IMEI number registered with SK (this applies to KTF and LGT as well).
Just to summarize:
1) Make sure your phone is unlocked (not even a step really, common sense).
2) Check to see if your phone model has been tested by the KCC (optional step really as the list is very long and even some very niche phones have been tested already, if your phone is a model people have heard of, like you can just say the model name and 1 out of 10 people have heard of it, it'll have been tested).
3) Take it to your local branch office (SK/Tworld, KT/Qook Show, LG/uPlus) and make sure it is a branch office, not simply a retail outlet. The retail outlets are called "daeri-jeom" and the main offices are called "ji-jeom". You want to go to a "ji-jeom". There is usually 1 main "ji-jeom" per city.
4) Ask them to register your IMEI # and either purchase a SIM card or pop in your existing SIM car if you are a customer.
If you have an obscure phone that happens to have not been tested yet, there is an added step in the process that will take about 10 days and requires some paperwork but I won't comment on it as I don't have any first-hand experience going through that process.
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And, in case any of you are wondering why I would take the time to do this. I have a very good firend, actually the daughter of a very good friend, who is from the small town I live in, and who is currently teaching English in Korea. I know she would probably not even know how to search for the correct answer. So... this is for Lily.
Thank you so much! As you may have guessed, I am just starting out as an English teacher here in Korea, and I will be sure to pass on this information to all my other teachers who would like to use phones here.
This probably gets asked quite often. But I have done some research on the interwebs and can't seem to find any answers on this topic. So I come to you fellow smartphone and wizards for your help.
The question is simple but the answer on the other hand might be hard(?)
Let the question be asked:
How in the hell could one add LTE Bands to the P20 lite?
Bought the phone from Texas, USA. I live in Iceland and was devastated to realize that Iceland only uses 1, 3 and above. The phone does not support 3 which I need. I might be too optimistic about this being possible but I am in hope for a good answer.
Best regards, Hakkarinn.
@hakkarinn, maybe it is possible but never heard nothing about it.
Maybe you can start searching in the different directions. I'll suggest you to convert your device from America to Europe, then all European LTE bands should be available.
@kilroystyx
kilroystyx said:
@hakkarinn, maybe it is possible but never heard nothing about it.
Maybe you can start searching in the different directions. I'll suggest you to convert your device from America to Europe, then all European LTE bands should be available.
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I tried checking that out. Didn't really know what I was looking for. Sorry I am totally new to "modding" smartphones (if that's the correct word), I honestly don't know where to look for that or what I should look for. Any help is appreciated.
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@kilroystyx
I tried checking that out. Didn't really know what I was looking for. Sorry I am totally new to "modding" smartphones (if that's the correct word), I honestly don't know where to look for that or what I should look for. Any help is appreciated.
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Second part of this post you can find the site name specialized on that. This is a payed service.
But if you decide do it by your own you need oeminfo partition and full firmware.
oeminfo can be found in this tool
Full firmware here
hakkarinn said:
This probably gets asked quite often. But I have done some research on the interwebs and can't seem to find any answers on this topic. So I come to you fellow smartphone and wizards for your help.
The question is simple but the answer on the other hand might be hard(?)
Let the question be asked:
How in the hell could one add LTE Bands to the P20 lite?
Bought the phone from Texas, USA. I live in Iceland and was devastated to realize that Iceland only uses 1, 3 and above. The phone does not support 3 which I need. I might be too optimistic about this being possible but I am in hope for a good answer.
Best regards, Hakkarinn.
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Did you solve the problem? I am in the same situation but with the European version and I need to use it in Latin America