Update to Magic 3.0.0 broke 3x Zoom Lens in lower lighting - Honor 20 Pro Questions & Answers

Hello,
I just purchased a Honor 20 Pro 3 weeks ago and I'm feeling disappointed with Huawei.
Two days ago my phone updated to Magic 3.0.0 (Android 10) and now the 3x Zoom lens does not activate on low light.
Instead, it only shows a 3x digital crop from the main sensor (horrendous I know). This happens even using night mode.
Let's say it's sunset and your not shooting at the sun itself. Then the 3x doesn't work. Cloudy day? 3x doesn't work. What the heck?
Thanks to Honor/Huawei, after this update my phone is worth the same as the regular Honor 20 before 6PM.
The sole reason I picked this phone over others on the same price is that 3x Zoom is great for composition. I do amateur photography on my Canon DSLR and I use my ~80mm lens ("3x Zoom" on a phone) A LOT!
Can anyone help me fix this issue?

NateCordova said:
Hello,
I just purchased a Honor 20 Pro 3 weeks ago and I'm feeling disappointed with Huawei.
Two days ago my phone updated to Magic 3.0.0 (Android 10) and now the 3x Zoom lens does not activate on low light.
Instead, it only shows a 3x digital crop from the main sensor (horrendous I know). This happens even using night mode.
Let's say it's sunset and your not shooting at the sun itself. Then the 3x doesn't work. Cloudy day? 3x doesn't work. What the heck?
Thanks to Honor/Huawei, after this update my phone is worth the same as the regular Honor 20 before 6PM.
The sole reason I picked this phone over others on the same price is that 3x Zoom is great for composition. I do amateur photography on my Canon DSLR and I use my ~80mm lens ("3x Zoom" on a phone) A LOT!
Can anyone help me fix this issue?
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For me there was no problem, but my friend with the same phone did. Anyway, he deals with it by going to full zoom (30x), letting go, then slowly coming down to 3x, without going to 2.9x. It works for him. Like I said, it's still how it used to be for me, idk why.

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How to activate the three cameras?

Hi,
I have noticed the phone got three cameras, all with different specs. All reviews tell you the specs of each lens, but how do you activate them? Even though the review might be titled "everything about...." :laugh:
I have noticed that normal 1x and wide 0.6x uses two different lenses but the third I can not access. How do I do that? Obviously I have tried zooming but still the 1x lens doing the preview at least....
3rd lens is x3, wait few seconds for it to change
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duRin90 said:
3rd lens is x3, wait few seconds for it to change
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Thanks! Now it's working. It needed to focus on something far away to switch from the standard 1x to the 3x camera not only taping 3x and wait with camera pointing at the table very close. When aiming it at a distant object it jumped to camera 3x even if the UI said 3x from start.
"Problem" solved, again thanks very much!
Also ensure you've got proper light otherwise, like many other phones from other companies, it will stick to the 1x and digitally zoom.
In proper lighting, anything 3x and more will use the 3x lens.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the OnePlus 8 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Pretty disappointing top be honest. I still need to take more shots but I am finding inconsistency in exposure.
worldsoutro said:
Pretty disappointing top be honest. I still need to take more shots but I am finding inconsistency in exposure.
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Get the Gcam app installed and all your woes will be gone.
Demolition49 said:
Get the Gcam app installed and all your woes will be gone.
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Which gcam would you install? Or does it need to be modified for this phone?
G cam from 7T works on the 8pro except no telephoto camera crashes the app when enabled
https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/cfiles/gcm1/GCam_7.2.010_Urnyx05-v2.3.apk
Photos have been a huge step up in quality from my 6t (not surprising). Does anyone know how to force the app to take in 48MP by default? There is no option that I can see to change that.
juancheco95 said:
G cam from 7T works on the 8pro except no telephoto camera crashes the app when enabled
https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/cfiles/gcm1/GCam_7.2.010_Urnyx05-v2.3.apk
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What config file do you use?
Been impressed with the camera so far. Telephoto is still hit and miss and haven't used wide angle loads but the main sensor is a big improvement over the 7 pro
I think the camera is amazing, especially super macro.
Had a little mooch around St James park for exercise during lockdown.
Yeah op did a good job this time.
Skates
I hope gcam comes when support for all the sensors
And don't forget the colour filter camera is actual an X-RAY cam!
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/ga7cm3/oneplus_8_pro_color_filter_camera_see_through/
There's already a gcam group on telegram, and it's producing good results
I have terrible lens flare effect, device is going back.. 1/4 of the pictures had it... At a price tag of 999 , this is not acceptable for me.. saw it on some youtuber reviews to (but they didnt mention it in one word). Guess exchanging the device will not help
Will keep my old device for a couple of months and wait for october , hehe
autofocus and main sensor is better then s20 ultra , I am owner of s20 ultra and oneplus 8 pro at the same time .
in worse light scenario oneplus win in most time , photos almost always are sharp
but in zoom S20 always wins
Mtha86 said:
I have terrible lens flare effect, device is going back.. 1/4 of the pictures had it... At a price tag of 999 , this is not acceptable for me.. saw it on some youtuber reviews to (but they didnt mention it in one word). Guess exchanging the device will not help
Will keep my old device for a couple of months and wait for october , hehe
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I see an issue where you have red blotches :laugh:
I haven't experienced the sun flare.
I have taken many pictures outdoors while hiking in various conditions and I am mostly happy with the camera. HDR is good and i like the exposure and colors I get. I don't really take any zoomed in shots so i can't speak to that but I generally like the shots coming out of the wide angle and main sensor.
a couple notes:
- I still notice a different white balance between the main and wide angle camera. Nothing bad and I still like both results
- Nightscape photos I notice a red tint in places. Some of the youtube reviews have mentioned this as well.
Will be interesting to see what this camera could do after a few updates over the summer.
I see that something in the indoor photo the focus is very bad at the corner of the picture... Someone has the same problem?

Mi 10 ultra wide camera

Hi to all I have problem in my Mi 10 camera ultra wide camera hang then I need to close camera app main camera lens and micro working ok
Hi, do you still face that problem? I bought a used Mi 10 with broken screen a month ago to sell it with a better price. I launched a camera, tested main functions including all cameras and haven't experienced any problem. I guess it was one of the previous generations because after update they introduced me a new a'la iOS notification panel. I decided to update software - because why not - now it's MIUI 13, and didn't check remaining functions. After all I took the phone apart and replaced the screen. I tested everything and I got scared because of the ultrawide lens. Now I don't know if the reason was too big pressure put on the UW lens to glue the screen, I put extra soft layers on screen and a battery cover to properly distribute weight (I already repaired a few phones and none of them got damaged in any way) taking care about a cameras' island.
Also I bought another cameras' island and unfortunately there's no difference.
I'll try to downgrade the OS to the oldest version and let you know about the result.
Always you can successfully access the stock camera by 3D touch on main screen and select among a few modes: Pro, Photo and Video

Question Question for buying this phone

I want to buy this phone but i saw that for getting good photos you need to use the pro mode. How is the camera for point&shot? How is the selfie camera vs the Google pixel?
How is the battery life?
well. "pro mode" also has 2 automatic modes so you can use that. But TBH, since f stop is fixed, all you can change is ISO or shutter speed so none non them is that difficult if you were ever using any real camera. For selfie......have no idea. Never took a selfie and never did a video call.
Battery life is better than expected but ofc depends on what you will be doing and what do you expect
avivasaf said:
I want to buy this phone but i saw that for getting good photos you need to use the pro mode. How is the camera for point&shot? How is the selfie camera vs the Google pixel?
How is the battery life?
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well I have the Purple USA version on pre-order, I did use the global version and loved the phone, battery was decent, I loved the flat screen, sd card, the LED notification, and the size, from the few pics I did take, they looked very good, but I only had the Xperia 1 IV global version for 3 days, , so I wasn`t able to put it through it`s paces for the camera, so I sent back to the seller, because it was missing some bands for 5G service here in the USA, I`m waiting on my Pixel 6 Pro to be checked in the Texas return warehouse, so they can send me a new replacement it boot-looped and hard brick, so when I get my new replacement 6 pro and when the USA Xperia 1 IV ships on the 22nd of this month I will be able to do better comparison between the 6 pro and Xperia 1 IV, but people will say if you just want to do point and shoot and not fiddle with settings the 6 pro might be the better phone for you, but I love the features of the Sony like the old days of android phones flat screen, microSD card, led notification, plus with 4K screen , dedicated camera button, and the speakers are lot louder on the IV compared to the III., selfie camera I never tried on the Xperia 1 IV, so hopefully Sony doesn`t delay the launch again for the USA version, since it was supposed to have been released on Sept. 1.
Im asking about point&shoot to get excellent results like pixel 6 pro or iphone 13 pro
I dont want to mess with pro mode
I like this phone for its flat panel and the size, battery seems to be better than pixel 6 pro, but its very important to me to take out the phone and shoot and get very good results
You may disagree with me but frankly I think you're better off shooting in Pro mode all the time. Spend the time to learn it and you'll enjoy it for ever. My 2 penny worth...
you don't have to mess with pro mode, you can select auto then set that as default mode for each time you start photography pro. And results are OK. For a phone camera. But if you prefer that artificial look of pixels, iphones, samsung and night that looks like you are on the stadium in the middle of the game than you might be disappointed.
The whole point of xperias was always to try to capture something realistic and not to have the best on the fly photoshop processing.
Guys
My point is not night mode
I want to take auto mode good photos for 1500usd it should be, but the reviews are mixed about results so i prefer real opinions of people who have it.
How is the selfie camera?
Is the phone really gets hot or they fixed it?
I have the pixel 6 pro but i hate is size, curved display, disappointing battery and no 5G in my country
But i like is goddess camera
I'll try to take some photos tomorrow with different modes but the same subject so you can judge them.
Phone does get hot mostly if you are doing 4k recordings, but don't have any experience with that. Camera is not why I got this phone. My old XZ2 was way hotter than this ever gets.
From the sound of things this phone is not for you.

General Galaxy S23 Ultra camera performance

I've had the phone for a couple of days now ant the battery life is stellar but the camera is such a disappointment. Compared with the S22 Ultra it lets in less light and the pictures are overall darker. Same goes for low light pictures, the S22 Ultra is consistently brighter in all scenarios. It reminds me of the difference between my iPhone 13Pro and my S22 Ultra last year the former always capturing more light. To be honest I was expecting the opposite to be true with all the reviewers clamoring about the S23 Ultra's better low life performance and camera overall. I'm really not impressed so far.
Anyone else still in possession of both phones? What's your experience been like? Any suggestions? Did I miss something in the setting? So many questions
Clear cam data, try a hard reboot and clear system cache. Try in safe mode.
Carefully go through -all- the cam settings and options.
Return it if you don't like it for a cash refund.
Are you using the 12 MP default option instead of 200 MP? The 12 MP is said to give the best results on colors and contrast when shooting in low light.
"Binning pixels like this increases their effective size, allowing them to gather more light and detail. So the ISOCELL HP2 can bin every four pixels to effectively make them 1.2μm in size and produce 50-megapixel images, or bin 16 for even larger 2.4μm pixels and 12.5-megapixel images."
blackhawk said:
Clear cam data, try a hard reboot and clear system cache. Try in safe mode.
Carefully go through -all- the cam settings and options.
Return it if you don't like it for a cash refund.
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Done. No dice. The camera still lets in less light on the S23U. In the settings I noticed that Camera assistant is missing. Must be a One UI 5.1 thing. Do you also have the S22 and S23 Ultra? Is that the reason for your suggestions? Are you seeing different results?
I'm upgrading from S22U (SnapDragon) to S23U and the few comparison shots I've taken I found that the S23U does capture slightly more detail, but there's not much difference at all. Remember this is the initial firmware for the phone though so the camera performance should hopefully receive some updates over time.
p.dixon0 said:
I'm upgrading from S22U (SnapDragon) to S23U and the few comparison shots I've taken I found that the S23U does capture slightly more detail, but there's not much difference at all. Remember this is the initial firmware for the phone though so the camera performance should hopefully receive some updates over time.
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For sure. I totally get that. The thing is all the reviewers said that the s23u captured more light and that has yet to materialize for me. They were using the same software. To your point, the software should get better but I feel as though this is a hardware thing. But I'm no expert.
Paul_Deemer said:
Are you using the 12 MP default option instead of 200 MP? The 12 MP is said to give the best results on colors and contrast when shooting in low light.
"Binning pixels like this increases their effective size, allowing them to gather more light and detail. So the ISOCELL HP2 can bin every four pixels to effectively make them 1.2μm in size and produce 50-megapixel images, or bin 16 for even larger 2.4μm pixels and 12.5-megapixel images."
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If by 12MP you mean 3:4 absolutely. Didn't change anything.
mrnovanova said:
If by 12MP you mean 3:4 absolutely. Didn't change anything.
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I don't have my phone yet but there is a setting somewhere that you can choose between 200 MP, 50 MP or 12 MP in settings.
mrnovanova said:
Done. No dice. The camera still lets in less light on the S23U. In the settings I noticed that Camera assistant is missing. Must be a One UI 5.1 thing. Do you also have the S22 and S23 Ultra? Is that the reason for your suggestions? Are you seeing different results?
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Try shooting raws, at least 3 f/stops more exposure and WB correction. Downside is the post processing effort/time required.
The issue may simply be the firmware instruction set. Samsung is notorious for dialing things in after the release. I'm still happily running N10+'s on Pie and Q. I demand a dual drive capable device. I'm not pleased at all by the newer Android versions from Gookill either.
The dead zone between pixels on such a small sensor with such a huge pixel count is concerning as is the individual pixel microlense quality. Even 20mp is pushing it. Canon full frame sensors are maxed out at about 26mp.
Regardless of the camera learning it's capabilities, limitations and shooting effectively within those boundaries is what grabs keepers.
I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have it.
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at most), reduce processing and sharpening. My
Samsung Note 10plus has better results! Thanks
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Is it the camera or the display?
Check/compare images on a properly color calibrated monitor... yeah, it's a can of worms.
PhilMorin said:
I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have
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I'll try tomorrow
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iI'll t.
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I'll try tomorrow
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In low light hold the phone as still as possible.
Use a nearby fixed object to brace it or yourself on when possible.
Using the spen as a remote shutter release will help too.
mrnovanova said:
I'll try tomorrow! This app is so wonky for me. I'll try tomorrow and post the pics.
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blackhawk said:
In low light hold the phone as still as possible.
Use a nearby fixed object to brace it or yourself on when possible.
Using the spen as a remote shutter release will help too.
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I got a Benro Tripod with a Phone attachment mounted on top. Gonna try that when I get the Ultra Monday doing some dark photos and using the pen as remote shutter release. Will also do same with the S22U before sending it back to Samsung.
PhilMorin said:
I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have it.
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Okay I think this worked. I'll let you guess which is which.
Edit: @blackhawk was spot on. They were both from the S22u. I have such a hard time with the app. I re-uploaded the correct pics. Left S23u Right S22u.
Paul_Deemer said:
I got a Benro Tripod with a Phone attachment mounted on top. Gonna try that when I get the Ultra Monday doing some dark photos and using the pen as remote shutter release. Will also do same with the S22U before sending it back to Samsung.
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I loathe tripods. Learned to improvise and shoot in low light with my Canon Pro cam 15 years ago.
I'll use anything at any height or angle I can reach as a brace; with practice you can land one of a kind keepers no tripod can grab.
Smart phones are poor shooting platforms; light weight so there's little stabilizing inertia and lousy handholds. Poor shutter release and controls. However they lend themselves to bracing well enough. In a case you don't have to worry much about what you brace it on...
The traditional elbows in, wide staggered foot stance, hold your breath works too. Shooting technique counts...
mrnovanova said:
Okay I think this worked. I'll let you guess which is which.
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Poor example; different shooting heights skews the results. The AF lock on point is also different so the bottle's print is out of focus in the one shot. Light metering and colors look near identical in both.
blackhawk said:
I loathe tripods. Learned to improvise and shoot in low light with my Canon Pro cam 15 years ago.
I'll use anything at any height or angle I can reach as a brace; with practice you can land one of a kind keepers no tripod can grab.
Smart phones are poor shooting platforms; light weight so there's little stabilizing inertia and lousy handholds. Poor shutter release and controls. However they lend themselves to bracing well enough. In a case you don't have to worry much about what you brace it on...
The traditional elbows in, wide staggered foot stance, hold your breath works too. Shooting technique counts...
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That might work for Photos but not very well for videos especially when you are zooming in 20x. Here's is an example where I have S22U on a tripod and zoom in on a waterfall from across the canyon and pan up and down. No way you gonna do it that smoothly holding it in your hands even braced. So for videos I love the tripod. It's the very lightest one they make and perfect for cell phones or light cameras. Change YouTube resolution to 1080p for best viewing.

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