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Hello fellow Atrix users. I bought the phone recently from amazon. I have a question regarding the camera on Atrix. When i was taking the shot, I can see the dust like thing going on. However, after I took the shot, the pictures are pretty clear. The front VGA camera did this kind of thing also. Do yours act the same way?
hanming said:
Hello fellow Atrix users. I bought the phone recently from amazon. I have a question regarding the camera on Atrix. When i was taking the shot, I can see the dust like thing going on. However, after I took the shot, the pictures are pretty clear. The front VGA camera did this kind of thing also. Do yours act the same way?
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Dust? Are you talking about the grainy effect? If that is what you are seeing, that is normal for auto-focus cameras.
live4nyy said:
Dust? Are you talking about the grainy effect? If that is what you are seeing, that is normal for auto-focus cameras.
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100% correct. Even my $1000 DSLR with a $700 lens looks grainy when I use live view through the LCD (Which is why you almost never see any pro photographers use the LCD). Using a LCD screen (on any camera device) to see what you're shooting is more a general representation of what your aiming at than the actual outcome.
live4nyy said:
Dust? Are you talking about the grainy effect? If that is what you are seeing, that is normal for auto-focus cameras.
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No.. it is not what i was talking about. The dust like thing is like you are watching a tv and something interference with it which causes it to show a lot of small dots coming up. it is something like this picture:
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But after i took the pictures, and the photos are sent to the gallery, the picture is pretty clean and does not have this effect.
Edit: NVM.. i see your point... That means my Atrix is not a defective one! Yeah Thanks
hanming said:
No.. it is not what i was talking about. The dust like thing is like you are watching a tv and something interference with it which causes it to show a lot of small dots coming up. it is something like this picture:
http 4 dot bp dot blogspot dot com/-Ri8h4lUS2L8/TX2lQDpwQEI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/e-kZtLL93LQ/s1600/IMG_4077 dot JPG
But after i took the pictures, and the photos are sent to the gallery, the picture is pretty clean and does not have this effect.
Edit: NVM.. i see your point... That means my Atrix is not a defective one! Yeah Thanks
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No problemo
Is driving me absolutely nuts. Anyone else?
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Same issue here
bmxant said:
Is driving me absolutely nuts. Anyone else?
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What is the issue? That picture doesn't really show much.
SPIDERTECH said:
What is the issue? That picture doesn't really show much.
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I'm assuming it's the red-ish glow in the center? That's the only thing I notice other than my topic listed right by the mouse cursor...
Kadin said:
I'm assuming it's the red glowing in the center? That's the only thing I notice other than my topic listed right by the mouse cursor...
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Ahhhh...gotcha. I went back and looked at it again and noticed it this time. I just got my GS2 and it's still charging, but I'll take some pics when I turn it on and post back with the results.
Is this on all pictures you take?
Here's a picture I just took...
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Kadin said:
Here's a picture I just took...
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That's not as bad, but my Infuse had zero issues, same with my iPhone 3GS.
The lighting is pretty bad in this room as well, so that explains the difference between my photo and yours.
Edit: @SPIDERTECH: It seems to be on ALL photos in crappy lighting. Can't notice it during the day while outside.
Just googled the issue and there are tons of documented cases and complaints out there Seems to be an issue with the hardware.
Take a picture of something that isn't viewing-angle-dependent before claiming there's an issue please.
My first instinct is that the camera is somewhat IR-sensitive (this is EXTREMELY common in cell phone cameras due to lack of space for a hot mirror filter) and the screens being imaged have higher IR content when viewed dead-on. (In both pictures, the red spot appears where the camera is viewing the screen dead-on. In the first picture the camera was centered in front of the screen, in the second the camera was at the lower right aimed up and left.)
Entropy512 said:
Take a picture of something that isn't viewing-angle-dependent before claiming there's an issue please.
My first instinct is that the camera is somewhat IR-sensitive (this is EXTREMELY common in cell phone cameras due to lack of space for a hot mirror filter) and the screens being imaged have higher IR content when viewed dead-on. (In both pictures, the red spot appears where the camera is viewing the screen dead-on. In the first picture the camera was centered in front of the screen, in the second the camera was at the lower right aimed up and left.)
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That explains a lot.....So it's not a hardware fault? Just a limitation?
Mine done the red thing with taking a pic of my screen but here is a pic I took outside
http://filehostonline.com/files/1/website/20111003_150501.jpg
bmxant said:
That explains a lot.....So it's not a hardware fault? Just a limitation?
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I'll take a further look at it tonight, but IR sensitivity is not exactly rare in digital cameras, especially cheaper/smaller ones. Good hot mirrors (IR-blocking filters) cost money AND they're large.
Yeah I have the same problem, I took pictures of the tile floor at my parents house, and it had a red center to it also, is their a way to fix this?
Also for the love of god, why does this video camera not have image stabilization? every video is shaky as hell.
hyelton said:
Mine done the red thing with taking a pic of my screen but here is a pic I took outside
http://filehostonline.com/files/1/website/20111003_150501.jpg
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man, that's a great yard and view there!
Hopefully no trouble here ..
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Is it fine that the front camera on the s6 edge is not center? Mine is towards the top right corner. Doesn't effect quality. Is yours centered?
It's not exactly centered but it doesn't effect picture. Should I be worried
Mine is also off center. I haven't noticed an issue with pictures.
SLACKER67 said:
Mine is also off center. I haven't noticed an issue with pictures.
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You're talking about the front facing camera not the back correct?
BrandonPrice31 said:
Is it fine that the front camera on the s6 edge is not center? Mine is towards the top right corner. Doesn't effect quality. Is yours centered?
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My current device is relatively centered. If I stare at it long enough it appears to be off center, but if I put it down and pick it up, it looks fine at a glance.
My original device's was clearly off-center, and it actually almost had part of the lens under the "skin" near the front snapper. I actually noticed the off-center camera before I noticed the flaws in the screen. If it had been further off, it would have definitely warranted a return.
So long as no part of the lens is covered, you're golden. These things go through their final paces by-hand and people don't necessarily have the coordination to perfectly position things like machines do. Whoever placed the Samsung-logoed layer on your device just didn't quite align it perfectly. It should be fine.
Do you have the white version?
My rear camera isn't centered. I have the 64gb Black Edge on Verizon.
I'm OCD and it bothers the hell out of me, but I didn't notice until after my 14 day return period and would have to warranty it out if I wanted a new one... Haven't noticed anything wrong with pictures or video, so I'm fine with it for now I suppose. To be honest, the only thing I'm worried about is the Optical Image Stabilizer and it going beyond the black area covering up the lens if it moves a lot.
DrkGhst87 said:
My rear camera isn't centered. I have the 64gb Black Edge on Verizon.
I'm OCD and it bothers the hell out of me, but I didn't notice until after my 14 day return period and would have to warranty it out if I wanted a new one... Haven't noticed anything wrong with pictures or video, so I'm fine with it for now I suppose. To be honest, the only thing I'm worried about is the Optical Image Stabilizer and it going beyond the black area covering up the lens if it moves a lot.
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Did you remove the film from the rear snapper? It might not actually be off-center at all if you're comparing it to the positioning of the protector around the lens.
Poetique said:
Did you remove the film from the rear snapper? It might not actually be off-center at all if you're comparing it to the positioning of the protector around the lens.
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Yup, removed both protectors over the cam and flash. It's off centered in respect to the black ring around the lens.
DrkGhst87 said:
Yup, removed both protectors over the cam and flash. It's off centered in respect to the black ring around the lens.
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Aww man. That's unfortunate. Well generally speaking it should be fine so long as the actual opening for the lens isn't covered in any way. It's not going to move anymore unless it wasn't sealed in properly, so it should be fine other than being one of those "annoying because you know it's there" things.
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My rear camera isn't centered. I have the 64gb Black Edge on Verizon.
I'm OCD and it bothers the hell out of me, but I didn't notice until after my 14 day return period and would have to warranty it out if I wanted a new one... Haven't noticed anything wrong with pictures or video, so I'm fine with it for now I suppose. To be honest, the only thing I'm worried about is the Optical Image Stabilizer and it going beyond the black area covering up the lens if it moves a lot.
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As long as output OK, I don't think center or not is not an issue.
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/w3aflekki0thqhj/AABqSYnVucDo-QVQeqYJeb2Ba
Anyone have this wonderful issue? I used my note 8 in the exact manner and no issues. No case on the s9+ or anything that could cause this besides a possible hardware issue or I received a lemon. Please check out your camera's and let me know plz. I hope it's just my phone
Yes! Under certain angels it's unbearable. Even had to check if I left some of the film on there, nope..
lightninbug said:
Yes! Under certain angels it's unbearable. Even had to check if I left some of the film on there, nope..
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Thanks for the response. I went back outside to take more pics and I noticed the camera module was very reflective. It was like i was reflecting light with a little mirror. I grabbed my note 8 to see how that module's reflected light. At first i barely saw the reflection. Then i had to really put the phone at a major angle to get a brighter reflection. I think the camera module's aren't positioned correctly or designed correctly to avoid recieving the sun's rays in an improper way which then produces these crazy sun rays in the pics. My pics were taken mid day so the sun was kinda just past it's peak height. I took more pics later on with the sun lower and couldn't recreate the crazy flare. This is a deal breaker for me. Do you plan on keeping yours? I called Samsung and they weren't any help. They told me to return the phone and order another if I wanted.. this sucks
Damn. That's some crazy lens flare. I'm heading to Hawaii next week, and I'll be taking my S9+ (if it shows up on time). I hope the lens flare isn't going to ruin all my pics.
My Note 8 does it at certain angles, I just use my hand as a lens hood on the side that the sun is coming from.
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Damn. That's some crazy lens flare. I'm heading to Hawaii next week, and I'll be taking my S9+ (if it shows up on time). I hope the lens flare isn't going to ruin all my pics.
My Note 8 does it at certain angles, I just use my hand as a lens hood on the side that the sun is coming from.
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Yeah, it's bad. Just communicated with Samsung Support on Twitter and they blamed the dual aperture. Suggested I try different angles and tap to focus. Smh. Guess enough people will have to complain before they realize there's an issue.
droidrev71 said:
Yeah, it's bad. Just communicate with Samsung Support on Twitter and they blamed the dual aperture. Suggested I try different angles and tap to focus. Smh. Guess enough people will have to complain before they realize there's an issue.
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lol Well, if it is the dual aperture, it's a design/manufacturer flaw.
They basically just fed you the "You're holding it wrong" Apple reply, lol.
Thought it was a rainbow. How did you get it to show? As none of my pics have that but it hasn't been sunny here
Yeah the 1st photo I took outside had lens flare. I'll deal. I got the phone for the stereo speakers and speed. Not the camera.
While it may not eliminate all of it, you do have something on the outer glass covering the lens. It needs to be cleaned with a lens pen. That's what's causing those little o shaped artifacts. Because of the tiny aperture and very wide (F 1.5), these objective element must be kept optically clean as if it were a laser optic! That's exceedingly difficult since its exposed. My suggestion is to purchase a lens pen and keep it with you if the best quality pictures are important. One can really see this at night when capturing dark scenes with bright pinpoint sources such as headlamps and streetlights, etc.
My biggest issue with camera phones (they all have it!) is the internal reflections producing ghost images. It's really apparent at events (i.e. concerts) with multiple bright points of light. Bathes the image in little blue-green dots everywhere.
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Thought it was a rainbow. How did you get it to show? As none of my pics have that but it hasn't been sunny here
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It was all from the sun. I had issues with my pics no matter which way I stood.
sireniankyle said:
Yeah the 1st photo I took outside had lens flare. I'll deal. I got the phone for the stereo speakers and speed. Not the camera.
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Was the flare similar to mine?
cpufrost said:
While it may not eliminate all of it, you do have something on the outer glass covering the lens. It needs to be cleaned with a lens pen. That's what's causing those little o shaped artifacts. Because of the tiny aperture and very wide (F 1.5), these objective element must be kept optically clean as if it were a laser optic! That's exceedingly difficult since its exposed. My suggestion is to purchase a lens pen and keep it with you if the best quality pictures are important. One can really see this at night when capturing dark scenes with bright pinpoint sources such as headlamps and streetlights, etc.
My biggest issue with camera phones (they all have it!) is the internal reflections producing ghost images. It's really apparent at events (i.e. concerts) with multiple bright points of light. Bathes the image in little blue-green dots everywhere.
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The pic with the circled artifacts was the first pic I took. The lens was clean toothe best of my knowledge. The following pics didn't have and of those artifacts pop up. Nevertheless, I'm concerned that there is a design flaw. I've owned many phones and have never had such an issue with taking pics with the sun. I was tweeting Samsung support and said the light penetrating into the lens was the reason for the terrible pics. Idk.. the phone is very new so we'll see how many do or don't come forward with this issue. All I know is the afternoon sun was just at the right height to cause the angle that the camera didn't agree with.
It's possible as with wider apertures and very bright out of frame light sources striking the periphery of the aperture you will see this. This can't be avoided even with pro gear hence the use of bulky hoods.
The idea of a two step iris, even in its rudimentary form, is a new frontier for mobile devices and this could be a glaring limitation if not annoying. Just as when driving one uses a visor or their hand, you may have to improvise and provide some shading to limit these artifacts.
Used hand as a shield
Well, took some more pics and the results are terrible. I even had it in video. I used my hand as a shield and away went the lens flare. I even rotated the phone to were the modules were on the opposite side as I normally use the phone during picture and video taking. I think that made it worse. I'm just disgusted.
Another example of me shielding the sun.
Sorry but they were flipped during the upload process.
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droidrev71 said:
Was the flare similar to mine?
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I'll just share
Nothing yet for me, keeping my fingers crossed.
sireniankyle said:
I'll just share
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Thank you for sharing. The speakers and speed are great! I messed with the phone before it was released and thought the speakers were ok. When trying them when I recieved the phone i was very impressed. I take a ton of pics so I don't think I can tolerate this camera issue.
Natureboy72 said:
Nothing yet for me, keeping my fingers crossed.
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Fingers crossed!
did you even notice a blue or white dot that appears in photos? example attached
meltbanana said:
did you even notice a blue or white dot that appears in photos? example attached
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That's very odd! Doesn't appear in mine.
Plainly.... ALIENS!!!!
meltbanana said:
did you even notice a blue or white dot that appears in photos? example attached
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Lol it's lens flare. Move the camera around and you'll see it changes location. That's what happens when you face the camera towards the source of bright light ?. Nothing unusual here.
Here you go my examples
Mine have this too.
It's normal is its the glare/reflection of light.
I post this on fb to trick my friend and they said it was an UFO.
gie62001 said:
Lol it's lens flare. Move the camera around and you'll see it changes location. That's what happens when you face the camera towards the source of bright light ?. Nothing unusual here.
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Are you sure? It's even happening inside, look at the big white dot at the chin
Positive. If you were not facing light source with the phone there would be no lense flare.
That's why I added the pic with the flyer as you can see white spot on my finger.
Take another pic in the same position but move the camera slightly different direction and there will be no white dot.
Edit: *flower