development speed - Xiaomi Mi 10 Questions & Answers

Hi,
I was thinking of getting the MI 10 pro, but noticed the development is kind of slow or non existent here? Are there any limitations due to the hardware of the phone? Making it slow to develop custom roms or is the phone itself not popular?

jizang said:
Hi,
I was thinking of getting the MI 10 pro, but noticed the development is kind of slow or non existent here? Are there any limitations due to the hardware of the phone? Making it slow to develop custom roms or is the phone itself not popular?
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Hmm, maybe to expensive for a Xiaomi device and therefore not interesting enough for devs....

gogoffm said:
Hmm, maybe to expensive for a Xiaomi device and therefore not interesting enough for devs....
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Hmm yeah definitely not xiaomi typical price. But I think this is a new standard in our current age and the phone has the hardware to back the price up even though I'm not a fan of such expensiveness

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Look a like phone?

So I just recently heard of another smartphone who has blowing specs, Veerne Apollo Lite is a deca-core smartphone with 4GB of ram and 32GB of storage.
BUT HEY IS JUST LIKE A COPY OF THE HONOR 5X!!!
And no the photo is a Veerne not a 5X
atrix_noob said:
So I just recently heard of another smartphone who has blowing specs, Veerne Apollo Lite is a deca-core smartphone with 4GB of ram and 32GB of storage.
BUT HEY IS JUST LIKE A COPY OF THE HONOR 5X!!!
And no the photo is a Veerne not a 5X
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looks like honor 5x rip off...
A 100% ripoff
venom007 said:
looks like honor 5x rip off...
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Yesss totally
PalakMi said:
A 100% ripoff
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Tell me! Mannn its identically.
atrix_noob said:
Tell me! Mannn its identically.
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Anyone will say the same
PalakMi said:
Anyone will say the same
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Only thing is that its faster with its deca corw processor and has more ram.
Many phones have the same look these days...
About this one:
Powerful at first glance, but rather poor build quality, many users are reporting connectivity issues.
Advice: avoid it.
mooms said:
Many phones have the same look these days...
About this one:
Powerful at first glance, but rather poor build quality, many users are reporting connectivity issues.
Advice: avoid it.
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Mmmmmm thanks for info, there needed to be something bad about it.
Lots of phones look a like these days, especially with all the smartphones floating around these days, you'll run into some look a likes here and there.
itsrustlife said:
Lots of phones look a like these days, especially with all the smartphones floating around these days, you'll run into some look a likes here and there.
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Agree but this one looks just the same but with another Name.
atrix_noob said:
Only thing is that its faster with its deca corw processor and has more ram.
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Its a knockoff so its probably poorly optimized so it will probably be very slow.
Arobase40 said:
Vernee like most Chinese smartphone manufacturers doesn't have any specific budget for paying international patents or specific design (including Xiaomi) so they can "share or borrow" their ressources one another including the mold... ^^
The SOC is based on Mediatek, so cheaper than Qualcomm and the phone is sold mainly on the Chinese domestic market with no international after sale services !
If you have any hardware problems, you'll have to send the device back to China, wait for some weeks and you'll most probably have to pay for shipping fees back and forth.
When you see the trouble to get official updates from Huawei, I don't think you can expect any regular updates from Vernee or any other Chinese manufacturers.
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Agree, so I wont be getting it but it would be good to see some bench or speed tests from it. The lack of software updates probably kills this phone has you said.
jimandroidnerd said:
Its a knockoff so its probably poorly optimized so it will probably be very slow.
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Yes, but let us see first what it can do, probably slow has you said.

State of 8.* development for G5?

I've had a G3 d851 for a couple of years and am currently running crDroid v4.0, 8.1. I'm thinking of moving to a G5 and so I've been looking through these forums to see what rom I might use if I bought one. It seems that there is very little development of 8.* roms for the G5 which is surprising considering the G3 has crDroid, RR, and AICP at 8.1 off the top of my head. I'm wondering why a much newer phone seems to have less 8.* development. Or is there something I've missed from my quick perusal of this forum?
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I guess the lack of replies is my answer as far as the development of 8.* on this phone. Kind of sucks because although I do want to advance as far as phones go I didn't want to go backward with the software.
Maybe there is another good phone out there with a removeable battery and sdcard?
thecdn said:
105 views with no reply. What's the record
I guess the lack of replies is my answer as far as the development of 8.* on this phone. Kind of sucks because although I do want to advance as far as phones go I didn't want to go backward with the software.
Maybe there is another good phone out there with a removeable battery and sdcard?
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I've had the G5 for almost 2 years now and development has always been slow. Right now I'm looking at other phones as well, my main choice being the Huawei Honor View 10 since it has an SD card at least. I don't think any phone still has a removable battery :crying:
My other choices would be HTC U11+ and Moto Z2 Force, both with external SDs ... but those 2 don't have any roms at all so far. The View 10 has 4 or 5 for Oreo already, so that's looking much better than the other 2 and hell, better than the G5 with 0 Oreo roms :laugh:
Nimueh said:
I've had the G5 for almost 2 years now and development has always been slow. Right now I'm looking at other phones as well, my main choice being the Huawei Honor View 10 since it has an SD card at least. I don't think any phone still has a removable battery :crying:
My other choices would be HTC U11+ and Moto Z2 Force, both with external SDs ... but those 2 don't have any roms at all so far. The View 10 has 4 or 5 for Oreo already, so that's looking much better than the other 2 and hell, better than the G5 with 0 Oreo roms :laugh:
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Thanks alot for the reply, was starting to feel pretty lonely here. I'm surprised at the development for the View 10 - I've got a Huawei tablet and the difficulty of developing for the Kirin chip has been mentioned several times in the forum. My daughters P10 Pro arrived yesterday, they make nice hardware.
Some excellent food for thought. Again, thanks.
thecdn said:
Thanks alot for the reply, was starting to feel pretty lonely here. I'm surprised at the development for the View 10 - I've got a Huawei tablet and the difficulty of developing for the Kirin chip has been mentioned several times in the forum. My daughters P10 Pro arrived yesterday, they make nice hardware.
Some excellent food for thought. Again, thanks.
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Well Huawei gave the View 10 to pretty much every dev, from different roms to Magisk :laugh:
Thanks to Treble development seems to be easier now, but the Kirin difficulty is the reason I haven't made up my mind 100% so far. I still have almost 3 months to decide though, that's when my current contract is up ... I'll either get a cheap one and wait for THE right phone or a more expensive one WITH a phone. I hate those decisions though :crying: :laugh:
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I hate those decisions though :crying: :laugh:
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Yeah, I had pretty much decided on the G5 until I became aware of the state of development on it. Now it's back to the drawing board.
I like your avatar. We are big cat people, have four of them.
thecdn said:
Yeah, I had pretty much decided on the G5 until I became aware of the state of development on it. Now it's back to the drawing board.
I like your avatar. We are big cat people, have four of them.
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That's Clyde, he was my favourite for 11 years until I had to put him down almost 2 years ago when he lost the fight with chronic kidney failure :crying:
Now I have 2 left, his sister Bonny and an older female, Fussel
Back on topic: If you're happy with stock or custom stock roms the G5 is still a great phone. AFAIK it only has issues on custom roms since they can't seem to get some stuff working properly like NFC, fast charge or Bluetooth calling. I'm pretty sure custom stock roms don't have those problems so if you can live with one of those then go for it :good:

Help me decide between this and OnePlus 6t

Hi poco users, recently I was using a Samsung S8 but selled it due to how frustrating I find the knox and troubles to rooting, since then I'm looking for my new device and was almost sure on getting the OnePlus 6T as they keep almost stock android and don't void your warranty due to rooting, then the poco F1 released and seems to be a tempting alternative but I had a lot of Xiaomi device and I sincerily hate MIUI, so my question is, does the modified MIUI that the poco have gets annoying or due weird thing like normal MIUI does?, also any extra things to have in mind that you could tell me that differenciates this from a true flagship?
Thanks to everyone and srry for my spelling and syntax
Alanrey00 said:
Hi poco users, recently I was using a Samsung S8 but selled it due to how frustrating I find the knox and troubles to rooting, since then I'm looking for my new device and was almost sure on getting the OnePlus 6T as they keep almost stock android and don't void your warranty due to rooting, then the poco F1 released and seems to be a tempting alternative but I had a lot of Xiaomi device and I sincerily hate MIUI, so my question is, does the modified MIUI that the poco have gets annoying or due weird thing like normal MIUI does?, also any extra things to have in mind that you could tell me that differenciates this from a true flagship?
Thanks to everyone and srry for my spelling and syntax
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6t has no headphone jack and smaller battery and sd card support but has better screen and better build quality and better camera both will have custom roms so miui won't be an issue so i guess its a matter if you are willing to pay extra cash for the oneplus or not since poco is much cheaper
Alanrey00 said:
Hi poco users, recently I was using a Samsung S8 but selled it due to how frustrating I find the knox and troubles to rooting, since then I'm looking for my new device and was almost sure on getting the OnePlus 6T as they keep almost stock android and don't void your warranty due to rooting, then the poco F1 released and seems to be a tempting alternative but I had a lot of Xiaomi device and I sincerily hate MIUI, so my question is, does the modified MIUI that the poco have gets annoying or due weird thing like normal MIUI does?, also any extra things to have in mind that you could tell me that differenciates this from a true flagship?
Thanks to everyone and srry for my spelling and syntax
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Poco f1 is a good device, best in its price. Performance and battery are on point. But if money is not the issue, go with 6t. Period.
Amoled and oxygen os are enough reasons to buy 6t, if not to mention the better cameras, warp charge, premium build, healthy custom rom development, faster oem updates, open betas and things can go on......
omargamalxx said:
6t has no headphone jack and smaller battery and sd card support but has better screen and better build quality and better camera both will have custom roms so miui won't be an issue so i guess its a matter if you are willing to pay extra cash for the oneplus or not since poco is much cheaper
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I don't really care about the jack as I can use an adapter and for the sd I dont need more than 128 or even 64gb, my principal doubt about the poco is I never liked MIUI UI and totally hate the way it manages the memory as I have loss messages not only from Whatsapp but work mails too, also I love the aesthetics of the stock android
rob!n said:
Poco f1 is a good device, best in its price. Performance and battery are on point. But if money is not the issue, go with 6t. Period.
Amoled and oxygen os are enough reasons to buy 6t, if not to mention the better cameras, warp charge, premium build, healthy custom rom development, faster oem updates, open betas and things can go on......
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Yeah, I had the nexus 5 and nexus 6 and really miss that much of community support, thats one of my top features for the 6t (I think is like the new nexus due to the price range)
Alanrey00 said:
Yeah, I had the nexus 5 and nexus 6 and really miss that much of community support, thats one of my top features for the 6t (I think is like the new nexus due to the price range)
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both will have a development community but if you dont care about the jack and the 6t is in your price range then go for it

Question Support for this device?

Since the production for 780g has stopped, that means hardly anyone will make a custom roms or stuff like that, but my question is, does that means that offical updates from Xiaomi for MIUI will also stop or they'll be rarer in compare to other devices?
I wonder, will we get normal updates or they'll be rarer cuz of rarity of this cpu?
For custom you can use GSI ROMs..for the rest only Xiaomi knows, but maybe less update
I'm very disappointed, I would never buy this phone if I new this model would be abandoned. This news was launched 2 days after I bought it :-(
Should be worried? I generally don't think it will be " abandonded" Xiaomi like xiaomi, we'll get updates for sure, burt idk how often.
I also think that the production of 780g might continue in the near future? Thoguths, gentlemen?
I bet they will be a few roms for this phone (I'm hoping for dotos or cherishos )
Stickola said:
Should be worried? I generally don't think it will be " abandonded" Xiaomi like xiaomi, we'll get updates for sure, burt idk how often.
I also think that the production of 780g might continue in the near future? Thoguths, gentlemen?
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MI 11 lite 5g appear on Android 12 update list. So probably we receive A12 and 1-2 patches and than stopped. Anyway Xiaomi is known for short support for his phones.
Im hoping that both versions get the same support. The only difference being the SOC(?) with everything else being exact.
RabidWolve said:
Im hoping that both versions get the same support. The only difference being the SOC(?) with everything else being exact.
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I heard that they have almost the same soc
mejsi said:
I heard that they have almost the same soc
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Tehnically, yeah, the diffrence in perfomance is so tiny.
Unlikely it changes anything. I'm 100% sure support for 5G ends when support for 5G NE ends. Maybe less often security updates, that's it. Support for both phones will be dropped with MIUI 14 or 15. Android 12 guaranteed, Android 13 possible.
Hard to believe that the 6nm 778G is more power efficient than a 5nm 780G. But what do I know?
robbiepeyt said:
Hard to believe that the 6nm 778G is more power efficient than a 5nm 780G. But what do I know?
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Since when? lol
mejsi said:
Since when? lol
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"The Snapdragon 778G clearly overtakes the Snapdragon 780G in terms of power efficiency."
Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE review
Having the same 4,250 mAh battery on board and running a similar chipset, we were expecting little to no difference in the battery tests between the "Old...
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Almost that I would like to return my Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite 5G for the NE version.
robbiepeyt said:
"The Snapdragon 778G clearly overtakes the Snapdragon 780G in terms of power efficiency."
Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE review
Having the same 4,250 mAh battery on board and running a similar chipset, we were expecting little to no difference in the battery tests between the "Old...
m.gsmarena.com
Almost that I would like to return my Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite 5G for the NE version.
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Idk how actually, but seems like it does.
Stickola said:
Idk how actually, but seems like it does.
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Maybe it's just the issue of system optimization
It would be nice to have a battery that lasted longer for sure, but I will not gamble getting a NE and realising it's a Tianma display instead of the Huaxing I have now.
mejsi said:
Maybe it's just the issue of system optimization
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This website base power efficiency on guesses I'm afraid. No real tests. Rest is based on pure benchmark numbers. But there is no benchmark for power efficiency. They thought 5 nm means efficient but fact is our phone likes to run hot.
robbiepeyt said:
It would be nice to have a battery that lasted longer for sure, but I will not gamble getting a NE and realising it's a Tianma display instead of the Huaxing I have now.
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And it's already confirmed Delta RGB display is again present.
sirgoldi said:
This website base power efficiency on guesses I'm afraid. No real tests. Rest is based on pure benchmark numbers. But there is no benchmark for power efficiency. They thought 5 nm means efficient but fact is our phone likes to run hot.
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Tbh after changing rom to OctaviOS GSI this phone is really cold, not as on miui
mejsi said:
Tbh after changing rom to OctaviOS GSI this phone is really cold, not as on miui
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Okay then, looks like you are right then. How is that possible that Xioami kills performance of their phones with OS is just beyond me. But still they are not bad in terms of efficiency, many Xiaomi phones leading battery charts. So I assume other companies are even worse. Wish to try custom ROM but for safety reasons I don't want to.

Question Is the Zenfone 9 worth buying now?

Currently own a Samsung Z flip 4 and honestly, I'm loving it. The only problem is that a lot of users are reporting about how fragile the hinge of this z flip 4 and I'm afraid mine will break down anytime soon.
With that I'm planning to sel this phone and switch to a traditional brick phone.
Currently my choices are Zenfone 9 or the Pixek 7. I'm looking for a compact phone with good specs and can last me at least 3 to 4 years before I upgrade. Need some feedbacks here on how the zenfone 9 is as my last asus device was the zenfone max waaay back 2015.
Massive differences in size between the phones. I'd say the camera on the Pixel is far superior, but how much does that matter to you? That's not to say the Zenfone 9 isn't good.
Although a few bugs have been reported, and Asus is fixing them, I'm happy with the phone. The battery is excellent; it feels very snappy. I don't miss wireless charging, the software is close to stock.
The best questions to ask yourself are, what are the important requirements you want from a phone?
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Massive differences in size between the phones. I'd say the camera on the Pixel is far superior, but how much does that matter to you? That's not to say the Zenfone 9 isn't good.
Although a few bugs have been reported, and Asus is fixing them, I'm happy with the phone. The battery is excellent; it feels very snappy. I don't miss wireless charging, the software is close to stock.
The best questions to ask yourself are, what are the important requirements you want from a phone?
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Also 120hz vs 90hz. While some people don't see much of a difference for me it is notable downgrade.
Mr_Steve said:
Also 120hz vs 90hz. While some people don't see much of a difference for me it is notable downgrade.
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Agreed! I know how my Pixel 5 feels versus my Zenfone 9; the difference in responsiveness is pretty significant!
If you want to use the phone 3 to 4 years then take note that the Asus only gives 2 years of updates
Bartieee said:
If you want to use the phone 3 to 4 years then take note that the Asus only gives 2 years of updates
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For those not averse to using custom ROMs, there's the possibility of unofficial support from volunteer developers. Not something I would recommend for common people, though!
Veiranx said:
For those not averse to using custom ROMs, there's the possibility of unofficial support from volunteer developers. Not something I would recommend for common people, though!
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Sorry to bump an old thread but as far as I can tell there are no Zenfone 9 custom ROMs? I've got a Pixel 5 that's on its last legs and I'd love to upgrade to something similarly sized but I don't want to lose all the Pixel-exclusive software features, sadly there arent any Pixel ROMs for Zenfone that I can find.
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Massive differences in size between the phones. I'd say the camera on the Pixel is far superior, but how much does that matter to you? That's not to say the Zenfone 9 isn't good.
Although a few bugs have been reported, and Asus is fixing them, I'm happy with the phone. The battery is excellent; it feels very snappy. I don't miss wireless charging, the software is close to stock.
The best questions to ask yourself are, what are the important requirements you want from a phone?
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How is the camera? At 800e it's too expensive but I might snag one if it's on sale
I've selled sony Xperia 5 II for this device. For me is a great successor of Xz1 Compact and camera is no bad

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