Can anyone else confirm that the G-Talk app no longer works/signs in? Whenever I try signing in, all of my contacts and my own contact are permanently grayed out, despite having internet connectivity (tested both over wifi and cellular). When I tried installing Hangouts, this issue was no longer present, Really sucks because Hangouts is a major step backward from Google Talk for obvious reasons (no status messages, shows people who are away/busy as offline, bloated layout, bloated contacts list, doesn't show online status of people you are chatting with in same window, generally confusing UI, etc.)
Tried on Samsung SM-N900T (T-Mobile Note 3) but I do not believe this issue is device specific.
Thanks.
This is currently happening to me, although it works on a new install of my current ROM. This makes me wonder if a Play Services update (or similar service) killed it intentionally. I'm going to let everything update after a new install, while it's working, and see if it dies.
I'm seeing the same thing. It works if I update to hangouts.... ugh
So now I guess our next step is to figure out what service is killing Talk and revert that as well. Because as I said this works on a new install of my ROM that was built before whatever was pushed.
I don't have a problem with you updating an app - but if you're going to force me to use the updated version, don't strip it of the features that made it great! Looks like Google has officially gone astray from their old slogan of "Don't be evil."
Pandemic187 said:
So now I guess our next step is to figure out what service is killing Talk and revert that as well. Because as I said this works on a new install of my ROM that was built before whatever was pushed.
I don't have a problem with you updating an app - but if you're going to force me to use the updated version, don't strip it of the features that made it great! Looks like Google has officially gone astray from their old slogan of "Don't be evil."
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What phone/version are you using?
---------- Post added at 03:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:02 AM ----------
I found the culprit. It's Google Play services, which was updated Nov 5.
Uninstalling the update gives me gtalk connection back, but maps doesn't like it.
Looks like we need to find the apk before the update and prevent it from autoupdating
I can confirm that uninstalling the Google Play Services updates allows Talk to work fine again (Nexus 4). Also that some functions like "improved location" in Maps are asking for this update back.
What I don't really get is that I never enable auto-updates, only pick them manually, and that Talk suddenly stopped working last night. Even though the last Google play services update i did was at least a few weeks ago...sleeper feature? Or is Google Play Services updated anyway in the background? I'm not sure that finding the version prior to the one published on Nov 6th will fix the issue, at least without any drawback...
Google and its f*cked up Hangouts are really pissing me off. Forced updates, forced apps, I'm starting to feel like I'm dealing with Apple here.
mgl888 said:
What phone/version are you using?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nexus 4. Sorry, thought you would have seen that in my sig. Version 4.2.2-573038 of the app.
Royz1911 said:
Google and its f*cked up Hangouts are really pissing me off. Forced updates, forced apps, I'm starting to feel like I'm dealing with Apple here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. I don't mind even mind the update though. The reason there is forcing involved is because Google removed Talk's most important features and expects us to just deal with it. If things keep going this way, my next phone may very well be an iPhone or a Windows phone. I can't support a company that forces its customers to use featureless junk. Google needs to realize that while it still has the largest chunk of the market, there are two other major players, and they are not invincible by any means.
I'm using imo.im, at least for the time being.
Same here, I´ve noticed that Google Play Services update is the bad guy. The Hangouts (crap) works after the update. I removed the Google play services updates and gtalk worked again bit now the triangle with the exclamation about google play services keeps anoying me.
I´ve noticed on GPS (google play services) update, theere are two new permission requests and one of them is turn on/off network...
I´m sticking with gtalk and the triangle error
Sorry for my english, is not my native language.
Update: After disabling google+ notifications, the triangle on status bar has gone
Ugh. Kit Kat came with this all pre-loaded. I did install the Talk APK but yeah, it can't login. Not sure what I can force-downgrade to get it to work without breaking stuff too badly. Anyone have any ideas?
I really, really can't stand Hangouts. It's not an IM program.
On my Nexus 4, reverting Google play services allows me to use Talk again, but I noticed I am now unable to send mails with the Gmail app. I can receive just fine, but no way to send...anyone having this too (with the factory version of gplay services)?
Also the network icon constantly gets grayed out. It seems to be working fine... Strange though.
I update the gplay services again, no Gmail is too much to ask for me.
I'll use another messenger while waiting for a new gplay services update to come out. Or maybe waiting to get an previous apk that keeps the overall functions working just fine.
I remember when I would proudly feel satisfied with having chosen Google and Android over the rest. Hm not so much today. Wouldn't really quit android, but damn I hate seeing it weakened by those socially-networked-marketing-alterations.
If anyone has a decent backup for gplay services that allows talk AND the rest to work fine, I'll be interested! Gotta say I have the previous version (the one right before the Nov 5th update) in a nandroid bkp, and somehow Talk doesn't work anymore with it.
Royz1911 said:
On my Nexus 4, reverting Google play services allows me to use Talk again, but I noticed I am now unable to send mails with the Gmail app. I can receive just fine, but no way to send...anyone having this too (with the factory version of gplay services)?
Also the network icon constantly gets grayed out. It seems to be working fine... Strange though.
I update the gplay services again, no Gmail is too much to ask for me.
I'll use another messenger while waiting for a new gplay services update to come out. Or maybe waiting to get an previous apk that keeps the overall functions working just fine.
I remember when I would proudly feel satisfied with having chosen Google and Android over the rest. Hm not so much today. Wouldn't really quit android, but damn I hate seeing it weakened by those socially-networked-marketing-alterations.
If anyone has a decent backup for gplay services that allows talk AND the rest to work fine, I'll be interested! Gotta say I have the previous version (the one right before the Nov 5th update) in a nandroid bkp, and somehow Talk doesn't work anymore with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First off, I have suffered from the same issue but found a solution. Secondly everyone should be aware that it depends on the Android version you are currently running if the Google Play Services can be downgraded without an issue. The best version that works with talk, maps & gmail is 4.0.31... if anyone needs a copy let me know! -RFE
I can confirm this issue... It is rather frustrating that I now have to use hangouts.
Hephaestus_ said:
Can anyone else confirm that the G-Talk app no longer works/signs in? Whenever I try signing in, all of my contacts and my own contact are permanently grayed out, despite having internet connectivity (tested both over wifi and cellular). When I tried installing Hangouts, this issue was no longer present, Really sucks because Hangouts is a major step backward from Google Talk for obvious reasons (no status messages, shows people who are away/busy as offline, bloated layout, bloated contacts list, doesn't show online status of people you are chatting with in same window, generally confusing UI, etc.)
Tried on Samsung SM-N900T (T-Mobile Note 3) but I do not believe this issue is device specific.
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you can try Google Hangout ong CHPLAY!
Talk seems to be working again since the latest Play Services update. At least it does on my phone (LG G2).
orl.on.dow said:
Talk seems to be working again since the latest Play Services update. At least it does on my phone (LG G2).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Still not working for me. No idea if we'll even get that update on Kit Kat. What version do you see?
jethro1138 said:
Still not working for me. No idea if we'll even get that update on Kit Kat. What version do you see?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
4.0.33
orl.on.dow said:
4.0.33
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Darn, same version here, but gtalk still won't login ): Might be a kitkat thing.
mgl888 said:
What phone/version are you using?
---------- Post added at 03:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:02 AM ----------
I found the culprit. It's Google Play services, which was updated Nov 5.
Uninstalling the update gives me gtalk connection back, but maps doesn't like it.
Looks like we need to find the apk before the update and prevent it from autoupdating
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 and the S4. On my S2 Google Talk works and on my S4 it doesn't. The both have the updated version of Google Play Service. So as for me that's not the solution.
I'm still trying to figure out a way for Talk to work on my S4.
Hangouts has grown on me. It was a bit bulky at first, but the UI is the same as Gmail and the new email app for 4.4 so I've gotten used to it. Plus now it can handle SMS messaging too its essential.
astralbee said:
Hangouts has grown on me. It was a bit bulky at first, but the UI is the same as Gmail and the new email app for 4.4 so I've gotten used to it. Plus now it can handle SMS messaging too its essential.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It just doesn't do what I want it to do. I don't want all my contacts mixed in the same basket. IM contacts, email contacts, gmail contacts and phone/SMS contacts are NOT the same pool and I don't want them to be in the same pool. I want to be able to logout of IM and have people in the IM pool NOT BE ABLE TO CONTACT ME, for example - and right now I don't even have that anymore even if I never ever use Hangouts (which I don't). People can IM me when I'm offline and it goes to gmail and sits there for a week or two until I open gmail.
Again, I have no problem with Hangouts as The Big Social Integrator, but they should've left Talk out there for those of us who do not WANT it all integrated.
Hello all, I am new to rooting and I just rooted my LG Optimus F3. I was wondering, I can delete the following system applications safely? I understand that some system apps are needed for your device to function properly. Are these apps needed?
-Dictionary
-Google Play Books
-Google Play Games
-Google Play Magazines
-Google Play Movies & TV
-Google Play Music
-Google+
-Mobile ID
-Quick Translator
-(Virgin Mobile) The Feed
-Virgin - Discover Apps
-Weather
-Weather Theme
Thanks for any help.
You can delete them all. All the Google apps can be downloaded from the market any way. Use something like root Explorer and delete from system/app. You can also delete the associated libs if you want and the data folders.
Sent from my GT-I9505G using Tapatalk
I'm not so sure the other member's comment is true for your phone. I've had to help a friend with an Optimus who soft bricked his for with the security error from uninstalling some of the built in Google Apps. Samsung and LG do things differently in that regard. Please do a nandroid and / or understand how to restore your phone if need be. It really makes more sense to just disable or freeze them anyway as the end result is the same - gone from the launcher, unable to run, doesn't use RAM. You don't get the space back for other usable things unless you move other apps into /system/app but there can be other issues with that.
ohh...yes you can uninstall pre-installed
Apps using cleanmaster application..download from playstore
Most likely it'd be fine to uninstall those Google apps.
pearlyfey said:
Most likely it'd be fine to uninstall those Google apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please refer to my post a couple above yours. It is not always the case with LGs. OP should proceed with caution.
As you mentioned OP should backup in first instances then proceed. But I've been rooting since my DHD and have had no issues deleting such files on any of the HTC, Samsung & Nexus devices I've had but then again I've never owned a native LG phone but I assume it should be the same.
Sent from my GT-I9505G using Tapatalk
nikzDHD said:
As you mentioned OP should backup in first instances then proceed. But I've been rooting since my DHD and have had no issues deleting such files on any of the HTC, Samsung & Nexus devices I've had but then again I've never owned a native LG phone but I assume it should be the same.
Sent from my GT-I9505G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not a safe assumption. There are plenty of threads about this subject on various LG phones (not all) and I've personally dealt with it from a friend who messed up his phone from uninstalling some Google apps.
That's fine then like I said I've not owned any outright LG skin based phones. But I don't see the issue of deleting Google apps from system/app. The mentioned apps are available to download from the Play store. OP you can try converting the said apps to user apps then uninstalling that way. Titanium backup can do this or other apps. If you delete Android dependent Google apks and libs then it will cause such issues like Google Framework or Google Play Services and such.
Sent from my GT-I9505G using Tapatalk
nikzDHD said:
That's fine then like I said I've not owned any outright LG skin based phones. But I don't see the issue of deleting Google apps from system/app. The mentioned apps are available to download from the Play store. OP you can try converting the said apps to user apps then uninstalling that way. Titanium backup can do this or other apps. If you delete Android dependent Google apks and libs then it will cause such issues like Google Framework or Google Play Services and such.
Sent from my GT-I9505G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970546
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2422268
http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-viper-4g-lte/223451-security-error.html
http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg...ure-booting-unsuccessful-cause-errorlogo.html
4 different phones. All removed Google apps. All bricked with the LG Security Error. I found these in 2 minutes. Android is very different across carriers, manufacturers, updates, etc.
The reason why was my phone was starting to slow down a little. So I froze them and that did the trick. Phone speed up after that.
Thanks Guys
I was wondering if anyone could tell me what Google apps come preinstallled in the usa xt2041-4 model. I'm thinking about purchasing this phone. Thanks.
I bought mine from Amazon unlocked, and it came with pretty much all the google apps that were necessary for the device to work. Apps such as google dialer, contacts, calendar, duo, etc. This is the first time I own a phone that come with all the basic apps such as the dialer by google instead of vanilla android version. All the google apps on this device can either be disabled or uninstalled. If you root the device, then you can uninstall them all, though they are mostly robust apps with constant updates. My only concern with the all google apps is the data collection. As somebody once said that Google doesn't make all these free apps out of goodness of its heart. Google's true money make has always been the data collection/mining, so more people use its apps the merrier. Therefore, to ease my paranoia, I replaced calendar and contact with simple apps, but it's just futile efforts on my part...
Sent from my moto g power using Tapatalk