Please help me in answering 2 questions
1. When the phone is in idle screen off state, in order to turn it on using fingerprint do you need to physically press the button (click) or just rest your finger on the sensor and it will turn on?
2. Do you have any idea where the NFC antenna is physically inside the phone? Top part middle or bottom part? I am looking to buy a case with a piece of metal in the middle and wanted to check if this will interfere with NFC.
Thank you
Melmic said:
Please help me in answering 2 questions
1. When the phone is in idle screen off state, in order to turn it on using fingerprint do you need to physically press the button (click) or just rest your finger on the sensor and it will turn on?
2. Do you have any idea where the NFC antenna is physically inside the phone? Top part middle or bottom part? I am looking to buy a case with a piece of metal in the middle and wanted to check if this will interfere with NFC.
Thank you
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1. You don't need to click the power button to activate the finger print scanner, its just like the fp scanners that are positioned on th rear panel and works just as well I find. It does click as a button too if used that way but doesn't need to to trigger the fp scanner.
2. Not sure about this one sorry. I have the 9s which doesn't have NFC.
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1. You can do both, there's an option in settings. By default, you don't have to press it.
2. Seems to be right under the camera module. Take a look at a disassembly of the phone and cross check with the case you want to buy.
I know for sure that in my joyeuse device nfc is around camera. Whole camera module is literally in the middle of the wire.
Gajdalf said:
I know for sure that in my joyeuse device nfc is around camera. Whole camera module is literally in the middle of the wire.
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is that a clear back? Niiiiice!!!!! How hard was it? I would do it if I didn't have a warranty
chrismin13 said:
is that a clear back? Niiiiice!!!!! How hard was it? I would do it if I didn't have a warranty
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Yep it's clear back.
Now I would do things little bit differently, as you can see dust can get inside.
As to how hard was it. If you are familiar with repairing of phones and de-gluing glass backs then it's pretty easy. Glass back is glued much more than I've seen on other phones, but it's doable.
Thin film glued to glass from underneath is really easy to remove, no specialized tools nor paint stripper needed.
Related
So I performed pretty much a full teardown. I left the screen in the front of the case, because I didn't really see a point in taking it off.
I had an Otterbox Defender before, but I took it back to Best Buy and picked up the Platinum Surface Case (Blue), so that is in one of the pictures. Everything else is stock.
Anyway, on with the information!
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The Camera button is loose! I found out why! The metal bar that runs below the button and the switch is only held in place with two screws that are on the far ends of the button and switch.
When you press down, the button actually bends the bar slightly before pressing fully. When I pressed the button in, it would feel like there were two clicks. Apparently the first click was just the metal button pressing down and touching the actual button (on the chip), and the second click was the actual button press.
I implemented the most ghetto fix ever for this (insert your jokes here). I literally took two thin cuts of packaging cardboard (from a super-glue box), and taped them together. They were about 1/16" thick each, so total it ended up just over 1/8" thick. Then it just rests in-between the metal beam, and the back plate for the phone (the piece the battery rests in). I was thinking of soldering something on, but then it would be a permanent change to the phone, which I didn't want.
The button on my phone is now rock-solid, and doesn't move at all unless pressed in. It now feels solid to the touch, and the only press that happens is the actual camera press. It feels much better now with this, but it makes me laugh to think of how I fixed it.
Chips on the board(s), in order of location. Each / represents a new line on the chips.
*Note: Not all chips are clearly labeled or easily identified.
Back of board - Facing up when looking at the phone face down
Top left chip (small chip):
AVAG0 / AFEM-S257 / P1121 / 60HG
Left chip (big chip middle left):
Samsung 119 / KMKLL[Can't make out letters here because of gold blob]UM-B406 / FDCA009B
Right bottom chip:
TPS / 65051 / TI 141 / A1D0
Right top chip:
ATMEL / MXT224 / C12QS509 / f2X774.1E
Front of board - Facing down when looking at the phone face down
*Note - The layout of the chips will be reversed if the board is still facing down. The layout is when the board is flipped over so you can actually see it.
Left chip:
PMM8160 / A10025.1 / F7117001
Top right chip:
SEQUANS / Communications / SQN1210 / PAN279.00.S 1 / 1121 / SGP
Also on this chip there is a circle with "e1" in it, and a rectangle with "G" in it.
Bottom right chip:
QUALCOMM / MSM8660 / BAU215.0 / C1119101
I believe the chip for the wifi is on the bottom of the phone? I could be wrong, might be GPS.
Front:
50H00649-32M-A / 2011/03/23
Back:
UT0020 C / 94V-0 / 1118
Chips attached to dual cameras
Small chip furthest away from cams:
6U7476 / 1091
Middle chip (biggest one):
1110 3M / SHARP / LR388G92 / JAPAN
Sticker in-between cams:
S100HA / 43035
Front LED and Front Camera chips
Small chip near camera:
168E6P / 1980
Big chip on side:
50H20371-51M-A 12 / 03/24/2011
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I have no idea if this information will help anyone with anything, but there it is. I tried to include as much detail as possible when I was looking at the chips and information on the boards.
Unmodified Pictures (Hosted on 4shared) all here: http://www.4shared.com/folder/2Ya7fS9_/FullPics.html
*Warning - Photos are not even shrunk in size. They are big pictures! 4608x3456
Modified Pictures (Hosted on 4shared) all here: http://www.4shared.com/folder/a8ndxVF0/ModifiedPics.html
*Note that these are all the pictures that are shown
Sorry about the images being hosted like this. I can only upload 8 pictures for attachments. I figured this would be the easiest method.
You can see them in a bigger size by clicking the picture you want to see.
These are out of order. They are in alphabetical order, not teardown order. Only one out of alphabetical order is the first one.
heh..so this is whatudoin
you couldn't zip those pics up on 4shared ..wow 3 pages ..lol
j/k
Lol I like how you point out Samsung hardware is in the 3d. :b good job. Now put it back together just how you got it! Or I'm telling mom
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Great pics thanks for posting them.
I get were your coming from on pad out but a little taken off on directions.
hmm I will hold tight for breakdown video that will show different angles of project.
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Great pics thanks for posting them.
I get were your coming from on pad out but a little taken off on directions.
hmm I will hold tight for breakdown video that will show different angles of project.
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It is about the easiest thing ever.
It is literally like this:
Camera button
Metal bar
Little ghetto fix
Back piece plastic
There is nothing in-between, and nothing holding it there other than the pressure of the case squeezing it. I didn't want to permanently modify the case. It's just a two pieces of packing cardboard taped together, but anything could be used.
It sits behind where the button is pressed, so it couldn't possibly interfere with the button, and it sits under the back plate of the phone, so it can be taken out if you just pop the back plate off.
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It is about the easiest thing ever.
It is literally like this:
Camera button
Metal bar
Little ghetto fix
Back piece plastic
There is nothing in-between, and nothing holding it there other than the pressure of the case squeezing it. I didn't want to permanently modify the case. It's just a two pieces of packing cardboard taped together, but anything could be used.
It sits behind where the button is pressed, so it couldn't possibly interfere with the button, and it sits under the back plate of the phone, so it can be taken out if you just pop the back plate off.
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ha ok I see were your coming from in pic.
Was the back cover tricky difficult to detach?
sling said:
Was the back cover tricky difficult to detach?
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Take the back cover off, battery out, SD card out.
Size T5 Torx screwdriver for the 4 corner screws, 2 NO:000 phillips-head screws for the middle two.
Then take a credit card and run it around the corners, and they just pop loose.
You shouldn't have to apply any force to remove it.
To do it though, you do have to break the little "security seal" that's on the bottom right torx screw. They put it there so they can tell if someone has opened up their phone.
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Take the back cover off, battery out, SD card out.
Size T5 Torx screwdriver for the 4 corner screws, 2 NO:000 phillips-head screws for the middle two.
Then take a credit card and run it around the corners, and they just pop loose.
You shouldn't have to apply any force to remove it.
To do it though, you do have to break the little "security seal" that's on the bottom right torx screw. They put it there so they can tell if someone has opened up their phone.
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Right on thanks much.
Ive owned mine for 2 days & have 7 day disassemble rule so next week I will get it done.
I was under the impression there was supposed to be 2 clicks with the camera button anyway. the first click focus's the camera and the second takes the photo.
Am I missing something?
btw, wish you would of looked a lil more at the 3d-2d switch and seen the reasoning for its loose play front to back. The thing is tight switching from top to bottom(3d->2D) but has lotta play front to back it seems.
sweet pics though, thanks for the tear down!
I'm pretty sure that the two click system was intentional...
First click is focus, second is take photo.
Lintrix said:
I'm pretty sure that the two click system was intentional...
First click is focus, second is take photo.
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sgt. slaughter said:
I was under the impression there was supposed to be 2 clicks with the camera button anyway. the first click focus's the camera and the second takes the photo.
Am I missing something?
btw, wish you would of looked a lil more at the 3d-2d switch and seen the reasoning for its loose play front to back. The thing is tight switching from top to bottom(3d->2D) but has lotta play front to back it seems.
sweet pics though, thanks for the tear down!
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You 2 are correct, that 2 click system is there for a reason. One to focus and the 2nd to actually take the picture, much like all digital cameras.
Nice pics of the disassemble btw.
Lintrix said:
I'm pretty sure that the two click system was intentional...
First click is focus, second is take photo.
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Might be that way, but I feel like it's much more responsive now. Before it would be wobbly and take a few presses before it would actually work, or I'd have to hold the button for a bit. Now the button is much snappier.
The switch isn't loose at all now, it requires a bit of force to move the switch either way. There is a clear click sound whenever it gets pressed either way.
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The switch isn't loose at all now, it requires a bit of force to move the switch either way. There is a clear click sound whenever it gets pressed either way.
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/thumbs up/
I like that! Either way, Kudos on being a brave man to open her up and perform the surgery blind =P
Hello,it seems there is no Q&A forum for this device, so here is my doubt:
Although the tech manual for the xperia S from the sony website report a proximity sensor, I fail to find one on my phone.
There seems to be a black oval spot on the glass next to the light sensor as if some sort of sticker can be removed to install the sensor.
The light sensor seems to work, since I've seen the screen go darker and brighter, but when I'm in a call and put the phone in my ear the screen wont shut off like in my old SGS nor will it turn on when I move the phone away from my face.
are your phones like mine? or is mine a defective unit?
I guess ur device has something wrong with it.
By the way; did u place a screen protector?? Coz if u did that may be the problem!
I think the light and proximity sensor are the same.
There is something wrong with your phone,maybe you should try to flash a new firmware.
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Hello,it seems there is no Q&A forum for this device, so here is my doubt:
Although the tech manual for the xperia S from the sony website report a proximity sensor, I fail to find one on my phone.
There seems to be a black oval spot on the glass next to the light sensor as if some sort of sticker can be removed to install the sensor.
The light sensor seems to work, since I've seen the screen go darker and brighter, but when I'm in a call and put the phone in my ear the screen wont shut off like in my old SGS nor will it turn on when I move the phone away from my face.
are your phones like mine? or is mine a defective unit?
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Hi,
Mine works fine...
Do this:
1>Go to dialpad and type *#*#7378423#*#* (*#*#SERVICE#*#*)
2>A menu pops up in that u will see service tests select that
3>Then scroll down and select Proximity Switch
4>Initially it will display as OFF. Now u place your finger or hand on the Proximity Sensor, then the value of Proximity Switch on the screen will change to ON.
If this is working then the sensor is just fine u need to update the firmware else u need to go and replace the piece IMO though.
Thank you all for the feedback.
I used the service menu to check the sensors ...
indeed the proximity sensor is always off, even when I put my finger on it, it seems someone forgot to remove the black paint from behind the glass, but I will update it anyway to make sure before returning it.
grained said:
Thank you all for the feedback.
I used the service menu to check the sensors ...
indeed the proximity sensor is always off, even when I put my finger on it, it seems someone forgot to remove the black paint from behind the glass, but I will update it anyway to make sure before returning it.
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sensor is IR, so darkened window is normal for it. but if it have always closed windows - than its status must be always ON. so, most likely you have faulty sensor (or bug in firmware)
goodwin_c said:
sensor is IR, so darkened window is normal for it. but if it have always closed windows - than its status must be always ON. so, most likely you have faulty sensor (or bug in firmware)
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Hi,
Exactly it should be showing status as ON if it's covered replace the piece as soon as possible
shoz_on4u said:
Hi,
Exactly it should be showing status as ON if it's covered replace the piece as soon as possible
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If it was covered by the glass/ cover it would show OFF because the glass doesn't radiate heat like your body does.
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Pezo said:
If it was covered by the glass/ cover it would show OFF because the glass doesn't radiate heat like your body does.
Sent from the Delta Quadrant using a transwarp conduit.
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Proximity sensor on phones does not react to heat. It have simple IR transmitter, which emits a beam, and IR sensor, which react on reflected beam.
goodwin_c said:
Proximity sensor on phones does not react to heat. It have simple IR transmitter, which emits a beam, and IR sensor, which react on reflected beam.
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You are right, just tested it and it seems to be a reflective sensor.
thanks for the tips, it was indeed a faulty sensor and they gave me a new phone right away .
I hope I don't get any more problems like a yellow tint :X (knock on wood with fingers crossed)
This is a topic which I don't really like to talk about, but I now want to take the approach to get it outa my mind: The backlight of my soft-key search button does not fully shut down. That is, if I let the phone sit until the lights of the soft-keys (home, menu, back- and search button) shut down, I still see a dimmed light behind my search button. It annoys me.. I know I'm a picky girl.
Is that a hardware failure or do you guys have that, too? I'm convinced it's NOT caused by my current ROM (running DisarmedToaster). Can you recommend an app which will test my phone for hardware failures?
I bought my EVO 3D with blood money and would not really like unrooting and putting the phone into original warranty state to go beg the company I bought it from for a replacement. Please help a desperate lady!
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This is a topic which I don't really like to talk about, but I now want to take the approach to get it outa my mind: The backlight of my soft-key search button does not fully shut down. That is, if I let the phone sit until the lights of the soft-keys (home, menu, back- and search button) shut down, I still see a dimmed light behind my search button. It annoys me.. I know I'm a picky girl.
Is that a hardware failure or do you guys have that, too? I'm convinced it's NOT caused by my current ROM (running DisarmedToaster). Can you recommend an app which will test my phone for hardware failures?
I bought my EVO 3D with blood money and would not really like unrooting and putting the phone into original warranty state to go beg the company I bought it from for a replacement. Please help a desperate lady!
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Mine has done that since the day I bought it, although I bought mine used so I just dealt with it. It looks more like bleed from the backlight on the display but i'm not sure. It must be pretty common if we both have it.
richyrocket said:
Mine has done that since the day I bought it, although I bought mine used so I just dealt with it. It looks more like bleed from the backlight on the display but i'm not sure. It must be pretty common if we both have it.
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Thank you so much for stating this, exactly what I was talking about! Kind of a small release to hear I didn't buy faulty hardware. Do we have other readers here who can confirm that this behavior is normal?
I'll head out to the phone store today to double check. Still, does an app exist to check for hardware failures?
Yes no faulty equipment, it is normal on every single Evo.
( Don't ask for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh)
flashallthetime said:
Yes no faulty equipment, it is normal on every single Evo.
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You just saved my whole HTC experience. Thank you soo much! How come this is the case on every EVO? Isn't that something draining the battery?
No it is actually bleeding from the main screen, I guess there's a small gap between the search button and the screen
( Don't ask for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh)
I noticed that too, but only when I boot up my phone, then the problem goes away after it gets past the boot animation.
Jsparta26 said:
I noticed that too, but only when I boot up my phone, then the problem goes away after it gets past the boot animation.
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Use your phone in the dark. Watch until soft buttons stop glowing. See the light behind the search button?
Mine has it too.
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Jsparta26 said:
I noticed that too, but only when I boot up my phone, then the problem goes away after it gets past the boot animation.
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Turn the backlight of touch buttons off using kernel tuner and keep screen on, you will notice light behind search key.
Yeh, methinks it's standard in all our phones fixed mine when i was replacing my digitizer (put a bit of plastic behind the search key to stop the overspill)
dessolator666 said:
Yeh, methinks it's standard in all our phones fixed mine when i was replacing my digitizer (put a bit of plastic behind the search key to stop the overspill)
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Did you void your warranty through opening it? How about the buttons responsiveness afterwards? If you provide a detailed HowTo, you'll get another +1. :thumbup:
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Did you void your warranty through opening it? How about the buttons responsiveness afterwards? If you provide a detailed HowTo, you'll get another +1. :thumbup:
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Yeh, warranty gone after opening it.... though now that I think of it... there may be a way around that. Namely I replaced the entire digitizer so I needed to take it apart fully, however since all the connections and cables are at the top of the screen and the buttons are (obviously ) on the bottom you could lift the digitizer up from the bottom and fix it without messing with the screws in the back (the one that voids your warranty).
To actually do this you will need:
Heat gun(or decent hair drier) anything with 500w or above should be plenty
Some good double sided adhesive tape (probably won't be able to reuse the original one)
A case opener tool (to lift the digitizer)
A piece of plastic or anything else opaque and nonconductive
Procedure:
heat up all the edges of the digitizer evenly (don't cook them, just heat them up )
Using a case opener tool get in between the digitizer and the aluminium chassis starting at the bottom and work your way up to the top
When the bottom and sides are free gently lift the digitizer with the top as a hinge point heating it up if necessary.
Ta da! You can see the inner workings of the buttons
Notice that the buttons have pieces of transparent plastic leading light from the LEDs to the actual surface the light overspill happens around the search button so I put a tiny piece of plastic around it (there are probably more elegant ways around this... but I'm not that elegant to begin with so this worked just fine.
Cut out thin strips of tape and put them on the edges of the digitizer where the old adhesive was (or reuse the old adhesive if you can)
Close up the phone and there you have it... your warranty should still be valid... tho if any1 opens the phone up they will probably notice the extra piece of plastic (or whatever you used)
On a similar note my gf's digitizer is busted so I will be replacing it some time this or next week and could probably demonstrate this with photos before I actually replace the darn thing (assuming I can get ahold of a decent camera)
dessolator666 said:
On a similar note my gf's digitizer is busted so I will be replacing it some time this or next week and could probably demonstrate this with photos before I actually replace the darn thing (assuming I can get ahold of a decent camera)
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That would actually be the coolest contribution I've seen in a ling time! Are you really willing to do that for our EVO community? If you did, you'd be our king.
Don't worry, it's on every EVO 3D. From GSM to CDMA.
The light bleed is from the screen back light. It does give the phone a cheap feel sometimes, but it's a common problem.
It's not as prevalent on cm10 with inverted gapps
(Don't ask me for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh! )
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It's not as prevalent on cm10 with inverted gapps
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How come?
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How come?
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Inverted gapps has black backgrounds so the screen bleeding is reduced
(Don't ask me for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh! )
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I can drastically reduce screen brightness which helps, there's still some bleeding
(Don't ask me for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh! )
dessolator666 said:
Yeh, warranty gone after opening it.... though now that I think of it... there may be a way around that. Namely I replaced the entire digitizer so I needed to take it apart fully, however since all the connections and cables are at the top of the screen and the buttons are (obviously ) on the bottom you could lift the digitizer up from the bottom and fix it without messing with the screws in the back (the one that voids your warranty).
To actually do this you will need:
Heat gun(or decent hair drier) anything with 500w or above should be plenty
Some good double sided adhesive tape (probably won't be able to reuse the original one)
A case opener tool (to lift the digitizer)
A piece of plastic or anything else opaque and nonconductive
Procedure:
heat up all the edges of the digitizer evenly (don't cook them, just heat them up )
Using a case opener tool get in between the digitizer and the aluminium chassis starting at the bottom and work your way up to the top
When the bottom and sides are free gently lift the digitizer with the top as a hinge point heating it up if necessary.
Ta da! You can see the inner workings of the buttons
Notice that the buttons have pieces of transparent plastic leading light from the LEDs to the actual surface the light overspill happens around the search button so I put a tiny piece of plastic around it (there are probably more elegant ways around this... but I'm not that elegant to begin with so this worked just fine.
Cut out thin strips of tape and put them on the edges of the digitizer where the old adhesive was (or reuse the old adhesive if you can)
Close up the phone and there you have it... your warranty should still be valid... tho if any1 opens the phone up they will probably notice the extra piece of plastic (or whatever you used)
On a similar note my gf's digitizer is busted so I will be replacing it some time this or next week and could probably demonstrate this with photos before I actually replace the darn thing (assuming I can get ahold of a decent camera)
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I don't believe it can be done without opening the back. If I'm not mistaken, that's where the connector is and it can't be accessed from the front. I could be wrong though
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HermanV0929 said:
I don't believe it can be done without opening the back. If I'm not mistaken, that's where the connector is and it can't be accessed from the front. I could be wrong though
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I'm sure it can be done... because you have to do pretty much exactly that when replacing the LCD or digitizer
After I updated my Nokia Lumia 920. the screen turns off when im dialing someone, and the only way to get it back is to restart it or if the person on the other end hangs up.
Could it be the light sensor? or is it just the phone update that messed it up?
http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Nok...n-t-switch-off-Lumia-920/td-p/1606440/page/10
Thanks!
I will return it tomorrow, since im not ready to open it after 20 days of use
now its REALLY FIXED but need to open the phone (only two screws )
Symptoms:
Experience screen and touch sensor switch off during a call, Notifications (the screen stays off, like if it was in a pocket) which doesn't turn on as usual.
Try:
If during a call you press and hold the upper left corner of the glass -just between the speaker and the upper left corner- you will notice that the sensor works as expected.
I think :
Because of the layered nature of the phone internals design and the heavy use of ribbon connectors it had to be tight to connect the board with the sensor.
My Solution:
I just added a peace of sponge (W:4mm/H:5mm/L:15mm) (all weather door and window sealant) -that comes self adheasive from one side- and sticked a small peace on the board on the opposite side of the phonejack/secondary mic connectors (Pictures attached) this will add pressure on the board to be more tight tried it and working as normal.
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cbadk said:
Thanks!
I will return it tomorrow, since im not ready to open it after 20 days of use
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Mine is suffering the same issue. In the Nokia forums one user recommended to "blow air" across the top of the phone where the display meets the case right above the Nokia logo. I did this and now my proximity sensor is working. It's got to be dust getting on the sensor. I'm going to take mine apart and see if I can come up with a seal for the FFC and proximity sensor.
Picked this phone up last week..I like it alot but the fingerprint scanner doesn't work..options aren't there anyway..I can live with pin security but if it's a easy fix and part being dirt cheap then why not and while I'm in there give the GPS contacts a clean..
Anyone opened the G5..is it simple..thanks
It's not that hard. The only thing that could happen is cracking your screen but you just have to be careful.
Florian990107 said:
It's not that hard. The only thing that could happen is cracking your screen but you just have to be careful.
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Cool..what tools should be used
You should only need a small screwdriver for the screws on the bottom and something thin and hard to get out the display. Then the button replacement is very easy. Look on YouTube . There are many guides for taking this phone apart.
Excellent thankyou