Hi XDA,
ASUS announced the ROG Phone 3 earlier today. I reviewed the phone for the XDA Portal after having used it for nearly a month (I received it on June 26th and published my review on July 22nd.) The phone has a metric ton of features, so if you have any specific questions about the ROG Phone 3, feel free to ask me a question. I'll enable notifications for new replies in this thread so I'll answer them as they come in.
I recommend reading the following posts first to see if they answer any of your questions:
Our launch coverage: ASUS launches the ROG Phone 3 with the Snapdragon 865 Plus, 144Hz display, and 6000mAh battery
My review: ASUS ROG Phone 3 Review: The King of Gaming Smartphones is back
I have also answered a few questions about the phone already on Reddit.
Hi and thanks for the review.
So I have had Rog 2 since the launch and although it's great overall, it has some big issues on display side and I want to know if rog 3 also suffers from the same issues.
1.the first issue that almost everyone knows about is the gray color turning to reddish color on lower brightness levels especially on 120hz. You'll have to test this with gray color background in a dark room but I can notice it even in a normal lit room.
2. the screen is kind of grainy and has a lot of bandings. you can also test this by downloading a 5% gray picture and turn the brightness all the way down in a completely dark room and look for oled bandings and lines and grainyness!
3. Huge Black crush! If you search google for "black crush test" the first result is a reddit question that leads to a video of a test picture. On rog 2 only and only on 100% brightness all the squares up to 5 are visible but as we turn down the brightness almost all squares become black (although they actually should be gray) and we can only see the first three squares at the bottom.(255% 100% and 50%)
and that means if we want to see everything in true color and we are supposed to see, we have to use 100% brightness all the time which not only hurts the eyes, but also brings screen burn-ins in as soon as 3 2 months.
Here's the youtube link for black crush test
https://youtu.be/fv6T7aHsd54
I hope you can check these issues and give us real life feedback
thanks
Hi
can u check is the Rog phone 3 support 144hz durinng NETFLIX vedio?
i mean does the rog 3 play vedio in NETFLIX in high freshrate at 144fps or 120fps like the oneplus 8 pro or oppo find x2 pro ?
kianvash said:
Hi and thanks for the review.
So I have had Rog 2 since the launch and although it's great overall, it has some big issues on display side and I want to know if rog 3 also suffers from the same issues.
1.the first issue that almost everyone knows about is the gray color turning to reddish color on lower brightness levels especially on 120hz. You'll have to test this with gray color background in a dark room but I can notice it even in a normal lit room.
2. the screen is kind of grainy and has a lot of bandings. you can also test this by downloading a 5% gray picture and turn the brightness all the way down in a completely dark room and look for oled bandings and lines and grainyness!
3. Huge Black crush! If you search google for "black crush test" the first result is a reddit question that leads to a video of a test picture. On rog 2 only and only on 100% brightness all the squares up to 5 are visible but as we turn down the brightness almost all squares become black (although they actually should be gray) and we can only see the first three squares at the bottom.(255% 100% and 50%)
and that means if we want to see everything in true color and we are supposed to see, we have to use 100% brightness all the time which not only hurts the eyes, but also brings screen burn-ins in as soon as 3 2 months.
Here's the youtube link for black crush test
I hope you can check these issues and give us real life feedback
thanks
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I am also interested in knowing abot this , and also if there is image retention at High brightness, can be checked by staying at a static page for 1mint or more the quick switching to to a gray image , like the chrome in dark mode with all tabs closed , I take I screenshot of it an zoom it and out it into full screen that time I can see the ghost image of previously shown page
I'm really interested in the acoustics/ speaker volume - how does this aspect compare to other current flagships & also specifically to ROG 2??
Thanks.
kianvash said:
Hi and thanks for the review.
So I have had Rog 2 since the launch and although it's great overall, it has some big issues on display side and I want to know if rog 3 also suffers from the same issues.
1.the first issue that almost everyone knows about is the gray color turning to reddish color on lower brightness levels especially on 120hz. You'll have to test this with gray color background in a dark room but I can notice it even in a normal lit room.
2. the screen is kind of grainy and has a lot of bandings. you can also test this by downloading a 5% gray picture and turn the brightness all the way down in a completely dark room and look for oled bandings and lines and grainyness!
3. Huge Black crush! If you search google for "black crush test" the first result is a reddit question that leads to a video of a test picture. On rog 2 only and only on 100% brightness all the squares up to 5 are visible but as we turn down the brightness almost all squares become black (although they actually should be gray) and we can only see the first three squares at the bottom.(255% 100% and 50%)
and that means if we want to see everything in true color and we are supposed to see, we have to use 100% brightness all the time which not only hurts the eyes, but also brings screen burn-ins in as soon as 3 2 months.
Here's the youtube link for black crush test
https://youtu.be/fv6T7aHsd54
I hope you can check these issues and give us real life feedback
thanks
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1. I do not see any reddish tint on gray colors in low brightness levels in low ambient lighting. I tested at 144Hz, 1-20% brightness, dark room, and with the Reddit is Fun app set to a dark gray background.
2. I looked up a 5% grain photo and found a video on YT. At the minimum brightness wherein the picture becomes visible to my eye in a dark room, there's uneven graininess. Raising the brightness a bit and I can see horizontal banding. No issues at higher brightnesses, though.
3. Similar result on the ROG Phone 3, sadly.
abunhyan said:
Hi
can u check is the Rog phone 3 support 144hz durinng NETFLIX vedio?
i mean does the rog 3 play vedio in NETFLIX in high freshrate at 144fps or 120fps like the oneplus 8 pro or oppo find x2 pro ?
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No, the ROG Phone 3 does not support motion estimation/motion compensation, or MEMC, as it's called on the OnePlus 8 Pro or OPPO Find X2 Pro. The OnePlus 8 Pro and OPPO Find X2 Pro can do hardware-accelerated MEMC thanks to a dedicated display processor called the Iris 5, designed by a company called Pixelworks. More details on that here: https://www.xda-developers.com/pixe...ssor-android-display-experience-oppo-find-x2/
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I am also interested in knowing abot this , and also if there is image retention at High brightness, can be checked by staying at a static page for 1mint or more the quick switching to to a gray image , like the chrome in dark mode with all tabs closed , I take I screenshot of it an zoom it and out it into full screen that time I can see the ghost image of previously shown page
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I don't see any obvious image retention at high brightnesses.
elmor0 said:
I'm really interested in the acoustics/ speaker volume - how does this aspect compare to other current flagships & also specifically to ROG 2??
Thanks.
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It's actually not quite as loud as the ROG Phone II. Still gets very loud in comparison to most devices, though. I've mentioned all the audio features that ASUS and Dirac added to the ROG Phone 3 in my review. You can thankfully tweak the speaker quality a bit with the 7-band equalizer and Bass/Treble slider in AudioWizard.
So based on your information, Im deciding to keep my rog2 for another year and see what 2021 brings us.
Hopefully an LCD gaming device or a high quality oled one.
Thank you for your answer
Can you please show the air triggers and how you can use them if you have that on hand?
So little people touch on this feature or expand on how it's used and I'm very curious as the rog 2 I have has had beta gestures forever.
Cammarratta said:
Can you please show the air triggers and how you can use them if you have that on hand?
So little people touch on this feature or expand on how it's used and I'm very curious as the rog 2 I have has had beta gestures forever.
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I posted extensively about the AirTriggers in my review. What more do you want to know?
1)is there FM radio
2) Is 3rd party application shown on always on display
Can the AirTrigger functions be mapped for usage in other non-game Apps/ functions (including torch/ camera/ audio player etc)?
If not possible in stock, will custom ROMs (if they happen for ROG 3) be able to re-map AirTrigger functions?
cimbom said:
1)is there FM radio
2) Is 3rd party application shown on always on display
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1) No
2) Nope, no notifications are shown at all.
elmor0 said:
Can the AirTrigger functions be mapped for usage in other non-game Apps/ functions (including torch/ camera/ audio player etc)?
If not possible in stock, will custom ROMs (if they happen for ROG 3) be able to re-map AirTrigger functions?
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Yes, you can set AirTriggers to work in non-gaming apps. I just mapped the left/right shoulder buttons to previous/next in Google Play Music. One problem: the stock camera app can't be added to ArmouryCrate. Further, when I added GCam, the camera viewfinder was totally black when I launched it. I suspect that the camera is being blocked by the overlay in some way.
The sound system benefits (volume/ bass/ enhancements etc) are only during gaming, or throughout general usage of phone (calls/ music/ videos)?
Thanks for the awesome review
Could u plz tell the following
How are the thermals?
What are cpu temps after 2-3 hour continuous gaming without aerocooler?
Hello
Thank you Mishaal , is the chinese version has l1 and 4g+ agrégation? And how is the battery life compared to oneplus 8 pro or k30 pro , i do care a lot about performance and battery life so is the chinese rog 3 with sd865 plus better than oneplus 8 pro for my usage? Thank youa lot
1.There is hebrew(עברית) language support?
2.speakers are better than rog 2?
danielad200 said:
2.speakers are better than rog 2?
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Already answered in post #6 towards the end.....
I have been a loyal Pixel customer until now. I love my Pixel 4 XL, which is working very well. However, I am blown away by the ROG 3 specs. I am especially attracted to the display and the audio in addition to the fast performance. I have three questions for you i
1) What was your experience like with the display. Will it blow the Pixel 4 XL out of the water?
2) What was your experience with the performance like in comparison to other phones?
3) Is Asus good about updates ( yearly system updates as well as security updates on a monthly basis)?
Thank you in advance for taking the time to answer my questions.
CJ
Hello, I don't play games on mobile at all yet I'm considering buying this phone simply because of the huge battery and speaker setup as those are the most important for me.
Do you think I should go for it?
Kos_ said:
Hello, I don't play games on mobile at all yet I'm considering buying this phone simply because of the huge battery and speaker setup as those are the most important for me.
Do you think I should go for it?
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I got the ROG Phone 2 for that same reason, and I can tell you that you won't be disappointed. You can go for the ROG Phone 3 for with the same results. Only difference there is that there is no built in headphone jack. I came from the OP7 Pro, so the only thing you'll miss is the higher quality display.
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Hi guys,
I am about to exchange my note 2 with z ultra amd some added cash ? Should I go forward ? Comparing the battery life after 4.3 update is it better, a little better or a ton better ?
Hard to tell what your needs are but I came from Note 1 to Note 2 then Xperia Z Ultra and aside from some things the spen can do, I couldnt be happier!
This thing is a beast but I wanted the extra large display so that made it a great option for me.
So it all depends on your needs..like for example why are you not considering the Note 3? Think is too small of a jump display wise?
shaolin95 said:
Hard to tell what your needs are but I came from Note 1 to Note 2 then Xperia Z Ultra and aside from some things the spen can do, I couldnt be happier!
This thing is a beast but I wanted the extra large display so that made it a great option for me.
So it all depends on your needs..like for example why are you not considering the Note 3? Think is too small of a jump display wise?
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yuo I kinda like to draw and I like added pixel. m very picky on display. I just never thought of note 3 as it didnt have the 'wow' factor for me. plus somehow the pixel are still visible to me. I love big working space but the only thing thats keeping me from buying it is the battery life. how good is it afer 4.3 update ?
Honestly, for battery life I cannot really help as I am most of the time connected to power and the few times I let it run a bit low on power, I didnt pay attention to how long it lasted but of course, I will never feel as confident as when I had my Note 2 and 4 extra batteries
Still, the Stamina mode is very nice in my opinion but hopefully someone else will provide feedback on battery life.
Battery life it's excellent in my experience: I use 2x Battery (search it into the Play Store), and I get two full days of usage. In line with my previous Galaxy Note. But for the rest, believe me, there is no comparison: the Ultra is totally in another league.
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Pannam said:
yuo I kinda like to draw and I like added pixel. m very picky on display. I just never thought of note 3 as it didnt have the 'wow' factor for me. plus somehow the pixel are still visible to me. I love big working space but the only thing thats keeping me from buying it is the battery life. how good is it afer 4.3 update ?
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Well if you don't mind the absence of pressure sensitve stylus, the z ultra will still cater you fine with its pencil sensitive screen. But better prepare it with screen protector (the anti glare one) so those shallow scratches won't bother you too much. Or if you have some extra dough you could buy the z ultra stylus or the adonit stylus.
The battery life for a non intense internet will have you around 6-7.5 hours of screen time. I have tried it by taking a note in evernote and the battery reaches 50% with 4 hours of screen time which can be calculated to be around 8 hours tops if i continue doing the same thing, plus i was using bluetooh mouse and keyboard too. So if you really focused while you're drawing, then the battery will not be a concern most of the time. Just don't try to browse with mobile data too often. It will drain the battery in 5 hours tops.
Plus the only concern with non removable battery is only after you use the phone for more than 2 years, but if you can take care of your battery (i.e don't charge it while it's hot or don't charge after its fully depleted), 3 years of lifetime is not impossible. In the mean time those slim sony powerbank will certainly help you to extend battery life should you want it.
So yeah nothing to worry i guess.
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I would do it. I just came from the note 2 and not going to go back. Everything the Samsung has the Sony has way better. Sony quality is awesome.
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Oh and the Sony stock ROM is the best I have ever tried stock. I dont feel the need to keep looking for Custom Roms as It was with my Note 2..then again, this thing is a beast so nothing can make it seem laggy lol
Go for it mate!
The following is just my own personal opinion and my experience using the z ultra...originally i had a note 2 and the moved over to the z ultra...after 3 months i sold the z ultra and bought a note 3 which iam very happy with. The main reasons why i decided to switch to the note 3 are as follows;
1) At first i didn't really mind the size, in fact the main reason i bought the phone in the first place was due to size. My main use of a smartphone are media consumption first and communication second. although the z ultra is a lot more portable than some 7 inch tablets, its still pretty big for a phone. often times i found my self getting frustrated due to not being able to fit it properly in some of my pockets. Unless i went out with a bag, i had to think carefully about the types of clothes i had to wear just so i can carry the z ultra. The note 3 seems to provide a big enough screen while not compromising portability, now i don't have to dress for the phone anymore.
2) the screen is not as good as i had thought. Now i have to reiterate this is my own opinion: after using the z ultra i found that the screen had some flaws which i just couldn't get over. The black levels are poor compared to other LCD like the htc one and LG G pro. When looking at the screen in bright ambient lighting you wont notice how poor the black levels are, its only in dimly lit light that it becomes evident, now i use my phone a lot in a dimly lit bedroom so it becomes an issue. The blacks also wash out becoming milky white if you view the phone off angle, the color does not shift, only the color of the blacks...this issue is not as apparent as like the xperia z. but its still far worse compared to other flagships out there.
The screen is very bright even at the lowest setting, i had to use a screen adjuster app just to get the screen to be comfortable to use at night.
X-reality is pure garbage, sony replaced bravia engine with x reality, why they did this i will never understand as x-reality brings along image sharpening and grain which makes videos look unwatchable. But turning it off makes the screen look washed out. I compared every phone i had to the z ultra without x-reality and the z ultra was the worse of the bunch. One color the z ultra the z ultra seemed to have trouble producing accurately was green, compared to other high end phones, any green that's not dark green always appeared to look yellowish green.
One issue i found annoying when viewing pictures and videos was that the screen had poor gamma levels. skin tones appear too bright for what they should be and shadows appear too dark. watching dark scenes was just unbearable as all the shadowy areas would loose all detail and look all black, while the faces especially for light skinned people would look pale white. other phones would show details in the shadows and skin tones would be full of color.
3) sound quality is pretty bad, coming from the note 2 i thought the speaker sound wouldn't bother me, after a few weeks it become annoying as the z ultra has the worst external speaker on any smartphone i have used.
4)The camera is complete utter crap...now i dont take photos much, and i didnt think it would be an issue, but the few times i did take pictures always thought of the note 2 which i had sold off to buy the z ultra. If you like taking picture, do not buy the z ultra.
5) the sony UI is very beautiful and snappy, but after using lg pro, htc one x and note 2 and 3 i found it the least functional especially when it comes to calling and messaging. don't have time to elaborate on this one.
6) The font and icons are so tiny, this for some people wont be an issue but it was for me. even though you can view more content on the z ultra screen, everything is so shrunk down that reading on the thing becomes straining on the eyes. even when you increase the font size in the settings menu, some apps still show font too small.
After a few months i just could not stand these flaws and sold the phone to buy note 3. So far i couldn't be happier. I can carry the phone with no issue, the screen is vibrant and clear with multiple modes to choose from. skin tones look better and shadows are represented accurately. sound quality is vastly improved, the list could keep going on.
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The following is just my own personal opinion and my experience using the z ultra...originally i had a note 2 and the moved over to the z ultra...after 3 months i sold the z ultra and bought a note 3 which iam very happy with. The main reasons why i decided to switch to the note 3 are as follows;
1) At first i didn't really mind the size, in fact the main reason i bought the phone in the first place was due to size. My main use of a smartphone are media consumption first and communication second. although the z ultra is a lot more portable than some 7 inch tablets, its still pretty big for a phone. often times i found my self getting frustrated due to not being able to fit it properly in some of my pockets. Unless i went out with a bag, i had to think carefully about the types of clothes i had to wear just so i can carry the z ultra. The note 3 seems to provide a big enough screen while not compromising portability, now i don't have to dress for the phone anymore.
2) the screen is not as good as i had thought. Now i have to reiterate this is my own opinion: after using the z ultra i found that the screen had some flaws which i just couldn't get over. The black levels are poor compared to other LCD like the htc one and LG G pro. When looking at the screen in bright ambient lighting you wont notice how poor the black levels are, its only in dimly lit light that it becomes evident, now i use my phone a lot in a dimly lit bedroom so it becomes an issue. The blacks also wash out becoming milky white if you view the phone off angle, the color does not shift, only the color of the blacks...this issue is not as apparent as like the xperia z. but its still far worse compared to other flagships out there.
The screen is very bright even at the lowest setting, i had to use a screen adjuster app just to get the screen to be comfortable to use at night.
X-reality is pure garbage, sony replaced bravia engine with x reality, why they did this i will never understand as x-reality brings along image sharpening and grain which makes videos look unwatchable. But turning it off makes the screen look washed out. I compared every phone i had to the z ultra without x-reality and the z ultra was the worse of the bunch. One color the z ultra the z ultra seemed to have trouble producing accurately was green, compared to other high end phones, any green that's not dark green always appeared to look yellowish green.
One issue i found annoying when viewing pictures and videos was that the screen had poor gamma levels. skin tones appear too bright for what they should be and shadows appear too dark. watching dark scenes was just unbearable as all the shadowy areas would loose all detail and look all black, while the faces especially for light skinned people would look pale white. other phones would show details in the shadows and skin tones would be full of color.
3) sound quality is pretty bad, coming from the note 2 i thought the speaker sound wouldn't bother me, after a few weeks it become annoying as the z ultra has the worst external speaker on any smartphone i have used.
4)The camera is complete utter crap...now i dont take photos much, and i didnt think it would be an issue, but the few times i did take pictures always thought of the note 2 which i had sold off to buy the z ultra. If you like taking picture, do not buy the z ultra.
5) the sony UI is very beautiful and snappy, but after using lg pro, htc one x and note 2 and 3 i found it the least functional especially when it comes to calling and messaging. don't have time to elaborate on this one.
6) The font and icons are so tiny, this for some people wont be an issue but it was for me. even though you can view more content on the z ultra screen, everything is so shrunk down that reading on the thing becomes straining on the eyes. even when you increase the font size in the settings menu, some apps still show font too small.
After a few months i just could not stand these flaws and sold the phone to buy note 3. So far i couldn't be happier. I can carry the phone with no issue, the screen is vibrant and clear with multiple modes to choose from. skin tones look better and shadows are represented accurately. sound quality is vastly improved, the list could keep going on.
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1) I dont dress for my phone...never have. The Notes are not small enough to fit that good with what I wear anyway so i always carry them so no big deal for me.
2) To me the screen was the biggest surprise on how beautiful it looks. I was afraid of black levels coming from a long line of Samsung phones but the Pros far outweight the cons.
For someone so picky about the display its odd how you seem to "not see" the issues with the note 3 screen...
Yes x-reality creates too many issues for some media. Would be better to have options for it but all the stuff you mention I just dont buy it. Your opinion it may be and I disagree totally.
3) Really..comparing phone speaker qualities....oh boy. In any case, the less clarify of the speaker is of course due to the water proof nature of the phone. You cant get something for nothing in real life.
4) The camera is utter crap...mhm...actually is not. In low light it is pretty lame, which goes for most many phones but for me to call a phone camera utter crap means I am into photography (which I am) so I use a real camera for my photos so the phone camera is good enough for what I will use it.
To correct your statement "If you like taking pictures, do not buy a phone, buy a real CAMERA!"
But I am sure the Note A7R with FF sensor is much better...
5) Of course you wont ellaborate...I wanted to see what exactly you were going to claim here is as the issue since the Sony ROM has been one of the most impressive things I have found after moving from Samsung. Just clean and smooth without needing Custom Roms.
6) Straining on the eyes? Really...you got some eye problems, go to an eye doctor, dont blame the phone.
So lets see by your logic, you want a phone with a BIG screen to resize the Icons to fit the same lame quantity of Icons and things that will fit if the screen was smaller thus not really taking advantage of the bigger screen?
That is actually one of the greatest things about the Sony Rom even compared to Googles version of the Xperia.
So after a few months you sold the phone and yet you hang around the Xperia Z Ultra forum? Interesting behavior indeed...
To each its own..but the Note 4 would have to be DAMN good for me to leave the Xperia Z Ultra...that is how GOOD and impressive this phone is.
The following is just my own personal opinion and my experience using the z ultra...originally i had a note 2 and the moved over to the z ultra...after 3 months i sold the z ultra and bought a note 3 which iam very happy with. The main reasons why i decided to switch to the note 3 are as follows;
1) At first i didn't really mind the size, in fact the main reason i bought the phone in the first place was due to size. My main use of a smartphone are media consumption first and communication second. although the z ultra is a lot more portable than some 7 inch tablets, its still pretty big for a phone. often times i found my self getting frustrated due to not being able to fit it properly in some of my pockets. Unless i went out with a bag, i had to think carefully about the types of clothes i had to wear just so i can carry the z ultra. The note 3 seems to provide a big enough screen while not compromising portability, now i don't have to dress for the phone anymore.
2) the screen is not as good as i had thought. Now i have to reiterate this is my own opinion: after using the z ultra i found that the screen had some flaws which i just couldn't get over. The black levels are poor compared to other LCD like the htc one and LG G pro. When looking at the screen in bright ambient lighting you wont notice how poor the black levels are, its only in dimly lit light that it becomes evident, now i use my phone a lot in a dimly lit bedroom so it becomes an issue. The blacks also wash out becoming milky white if you view the phone off angle, the color does not shift, only the color of the blacks...this issue is not as apparent as like the xperia z. but its still far worse compared to other flagships out there.
The screen is very bright even at the lowest setting, i had to use a screen adjuster app just to get the screen to be comfortable to use at night.
X-reality is pure garbage, sony replaced bravia engine with x reality, why they did this i will never understand as x-reality brings along image sharpening and grain which makes videos look unwatchable. But turning it off makes the screen look washed out. I compared every phone i had to the z ultra without x-reality and the z ultra was the worse of the bunch. One color the z ultra the z ultra seemed to have trouble producing accurately was green, compared to other high end phones, any green that's not dark green always appeared to look yellowish green.
One issue i found annoying when viewing pictures and videos was that the screen had poor gamma levels. skin tones appear too bright for what they should be and shadows appear too dark. watching dark scenes was just unbearable as all the shadowy areas would loose all detail and look all black, while the faces especially for light skinned people would look pale white. other phones would show details in the shadows and skin tones would be full of color.
3) sound quality is pretty bad, coming from the note 2 i thought the speaker sound wouldn't bother me, after a few weeks it become annoying as the z ultra has the worst external speaker on any smartphone i have used.
4)The camera is complete utter crap...now i dont take photos much, and i didnt think it would be an issue, but the few times i did take pictures always thought of the note 2 which i had sold off to buy the z ultra. If you like taking picture, do not buy the z ultra.
5) the sony UI is very beautiful and snappy, but after using lg pro, htc one x and note 2 and 3 i found it the least functional especially when it comes to calling and messaging. don't have time to elaborate on this one.
6) The font and icons are so tiny, this for some people wont be an issue but it was for me. even though you can view more content on the z ultra screen, everything is so shrunk down that reading on the thing becomes straining on the eyes. even when you increase the font size in the settings menu, some apps still show font too small.
After a few months i just could not stand these flaws and sold the phone to buy note 3. So far i couldn't be happier. I can carry the phone with no issue, the screen is vibrant and clear with multiple modes to choose from. skin tones look better and shadows are represented accurately. sound quality is vastly improved, the list could keep going on.
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1. I fit it into my front chest pocket and never have any problem with it. in fact Sony engineers stated that it is the max that a pocket can be fitted because it is designed with a passport width in mind. So I'm not sure why can't you.
2. Blacks will never be a true black even with AMOLED one. Yeah the contrast is good when you push the brightness, but when you're reducing it you'll know that their blacks are not as black as you thought. I have had using razr Maxx fyi so there's that. If you don't like x reality then just turn it off simple. It's like you need to change color temperature mode first to get more accurate color in GS4 and Note 3. Plus those oversaturated colors.. I don't know but my eyes bleed when i saw my friend's Note 2 after using the Z Ultra. There's a reason why professional monitor doesn't use AMOLED.
3. Nothing beats HTC one in that regard i admit, but frankly all other smartphones can only produce so much sound too plus it is water proof so like shaolin said. You don't get something for nothing
4. Just switch to manual and reduce ISO to max 200. Boom done. Or better yet the qx100..
5. To each other's preferences then. But if we have to be honest, people loves to flash CM ROM on their Samsung/LG because of the bloated skin. Whereas with sony sometimes people regret doing that and came back to stock Sony ROM because the beautiful factor and simplicity is damn near AOSP one.
6. I have pity for you then. You are wasting all that ppi provided by the phone these days just for a bigger font. Granted if you have eye problem but if you do, better make it with some low end galaxy grand I suppose?
But i do understand that Note 3 has advantages over Z Ultra. S-pen and slighlty longer lasting battery, but none of the above you mentioned I'd consider as the disadvantages of the Z Ultra.
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I clearly stated multiple times that everything i stated was based on my personal experience for the very reason that this is a z ultra forum, most people who frequent this forum will be z ultra owners of which there will be many people that do like the z ultra.
All the negatives i wrote about are based on my experiences and my uses of the phone, they wont be the same nor should they be the same as everyone's else...as of now i find the note 3 suits my needs better than the z ultra, does that mean i find the note 3 perfect....NO...does that mean the z ultra is a bad phone....NO
I use most of my phones stock, i seldom root much less use custom ROMS...if a phone does do or perform the way i want out the box then iam less likely to keep it...
The OP asked if its worth switching from the note 2 to z ultra....now since i used the note 2 for over a year before switching i felt my input could be of help, its up to the OP to look into the issues i stated and see for him/herself if 1) he can actually see the same issues stated in the phone 2) if he does see the issues are they a deal breaker for him
One thing i do know for sure is that iam not the only one who feels the way i do, each point i made has already been made by different forum members,
For example the font being too small, there is already a thread made about it in the forum, the screen issues i mentioned forum member angelofmusic has stated my experience with actual measurements made
Iam sure the z ultra is a good phone for some, but its just not for me
I have been using many phones before the Z.U. Honestly I only like Samsung phone for the Galaxy S1,S2. Since s3, the quality is, sorry for all Samsung users, never be able to beat Sony.
If you compare between the screen of Z.U and Samsung phone. Indeed the samsung will have brighter, more vivid colors, but not as real as the Z.U. I am an Z.U users and I am giving my personal opinion.
To the OP, I do NOT think it is worth to switch to the Note2. When you buy the Z.U, you know that the size is large and at some points, it may cause inconvenience. For the Note 2, it might be smaller, but I think you will miss the badass screen of Z.U soon.
With me, there is no reason to swith from Z.U to Note2, only if it is because of the battery. However, using a Phablet like the Z.U, you should prepare that the battery will not last all day long like smaller ones. Why? besides the badass screen, you have the Snap 800 inside, which is far too strong for any usual tasks.
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I have been using many phones before the Z.U. Honestly I only like Samsung phone for the Galaxy S1,S2. Since s3, the quality is, sorry for all Samsung users, never be able to beat Sony.
If you compare between the screen of Z.U and Samsung phone. Indeed the samsung will have brighter, more vivid colors, but not as real as the Z.U. I am an Z.U users and I am giving my personal opinion.
To the OP, I do NOT think it is worth to switch to the Note2. When you buy the Z.U, you know that the size is large and at some points, it may cause inconvenience. For the Note 2, it might be smaller, but I think you will miss the badass screen of Z.U soon.
With me, there is no reason to swith from Z.U to Note2, only if it is because of the battery. However, using a Phablet like the Z.U, you should prepare that the battery will not last all day long like smaller ones. Why? besides the badass screen, you have the Snap 800 inside, which is far too strong for any usual tasks.
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Seems like OP wants to switch from note 2 to z ultra not the other way around
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thanx guys for ur input ,much appreciated. I have until tomorrow to make the deal so I am trying to consider all the facts. the pros and cons.very strong points from both end. I just met the guy. the screen looked washed out to me while the note 2 looked unnecessarily colorful him. the funny thing is now my note 2 looks so small and I cant get over it. wow! the screen size and all those extra space to work with but I just cant say abt the battery life if it suits my need.
lasts thank you for your time and all those long reviews. I hope I make the right choice.
Also, Z Ultra will survive a toilet dip , that's something to be bragged about.
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I clearly stated multiple times that everything i stated was based on my personal experience for the very reason that this is a z ultra forum, most people who frequent this forum will be z ultra owners of which there will be many people that do like the z ultra.
All the negatives i wrote about are based on my experiences and my uses of the phone, they wont be the same nor should they be the same as everyone's else...as of now i find the note 3 suits my needs better than the z ultra, does that mean i find the note 3 perfect....NO...does that mean the z ultra is a bad phone....NO
I use most of my phones stock, i seldom root much less use custom ROMS...if a phone does do or perform the way i want out the box then iam less likely to keep it...
The OP asked if its worth switching from the note 2 to z ultra....now since i used the note 2 for over a year before switching i felt my input could be of help, its up to the OP to look into the issues i stated and see for him/herself if 1) he can actually see the same issues stated in the phone 2) if he does see the issues are they a deal breaker for him
One thing i do know for sure is that iam not the only one who feels the way i do, each point i made has already been made by different forum members,
For example the font being too small, there is already a thread made about it in the forum, the screen issues i mentioned forum member angelofmusic has stated my experience with actual measurements made
Iam sure the z ultra is a good phone for some, but its just not for me
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Good so like after I sold a phone, I dont keep hanging around the old forums to post stuff like you just did. Just does not make sense to hang around a forum for a device I only had for a few months and did not like...I move on with my life to the new phone I got and the corresponding forums...
I already replied to all your points before so I wont rehash that. I do not mean the Note 3 is a bad phone nor that the Ultra is perfect, it sure is not. But your post really blows things out of proportions. Your opinion it is and I totally disagree with most of it as I said...so that is MY opinion too.
The OP will decide at the end.
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thanx guys for ur input ,much appreciated. I have until tomorrow to make the deal so I am trying to consider all the facts. the pros and cons.very strong points from both end. I just met the guy. the screen looked washed out to me while the note 2 looked unnecessarily colorful him. the funny thing is now my note 2 looks so small and I cant get over it. wow! the screen size and all those extra space to work with but I just cant say abt the battery life if it suits my need.
lasts thank you for your time and all those long reviews. I hope I make the right choice.
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I always had to tame down the colors on my Note phones using a kernel feature or at least changing to movie mode or something like that. The sony just looks perfect to me but I am used to working on a calibrated monitor for photo editing so give it a bit of time for your eyes to adjust maybe.
In any case, good luck with your decision!
I wont deny I was afraid of changing from Samsung after so many phones and being a Note 1 and Note 2 fan but now I cannot see myself without my Ultra! :good:
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Hi guys,
I am about to exchange my note 2 with z ultra amd some added cash ? Should I go forward ? Comparing the battery life after 4.3 update is it better, a little better or a ton better ?
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I came from the note 2 myself... The battery on The Z Ultra is just fine, it actually got considerably better after a few weeks use. I was paranoid at first worrying when I got down to 50% etc, but honestly one the initial setup and benchmarking frenzy was over it easily lasts me a day now. I normally charge between 5 and 7 when I get home after work, and thats the only time I do charge, its left unplugged overnight. When I come to charge it the next day I've usually got 40%+ left in the tank. To summarise I don't worry about battery whatsoever with this device. :good:
People keep complaining about the black levels on the ZU's screen - but they don't seem to realize what accurate colours truly are.
If you are the type of person who sets their TV to 'vivid' or 'dynamic' or one of those other fake settings that artificially enhance the hues and saturation of colours to make them pop - then by all means, please go the Samsung route; to your eyes, the colours are most likely going to seem more vibrant and thus imply that the screen quality is actually better.
If you want colours that are as close to those you will get from a professionally calibrated television set or monitor - the Sony is hands down the way to go.
Even comparing the Sony ZU side by side with my first generation Galaxy Note, the colours on the Note can in some cases strike out a little more - but when I put them up against my 55" professionally calibrated Samsung TV - the Sony's colours are most in line with the calibrated display - the Samsung looks skewed.
In short, if you think skin tones actually are supposed to be orange - stick with a Samsung.
If you want accurate, realistic depiction of your media - go Sony.
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People keep complaining about the black levels on the ZU's screen - but they don't seem to realize what accurate colours truly are.
If you are the type of person who sets their TV to 'vivid' or 'dynamic' or one of those other fake settings that artificially enhance the hues and saturation of colours to make them pop - then by all means, please go the Samsung route; to your eyes, the colours are most likely going to seem more vibrant and thus imply that the screen quality is actually better.
If you want colours that are as close to those you will get from a professionally calibrated television set or monitor - the Sony is hands down the way to go.
Even comparing the Sony ZU side by side with my first generation Galaxy Note, the colours on the Note can in some cases strike out a little more - but when I put them up against my 55" professionally calibrated Samsung TV - the Sony's colours are most in line with the calibrated display - the Samsung looks skewed.
In short, if you think skin tones actually are supposed to be orange - stick with a Samsung.
If you want accurate, realistic depiction of your media - go Sony.
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well, cannot agree more on that
I'm not trying to start a pixel flame war, but I'm standing in front of multiple pixel 3 devices and it's very easy to see they have two different color temperatures. The difference isn't as noticeable in photos though.
Granted, they still look 2 times better than last year, but the regular 3 clearly has a warmer temp and greater color shift when viewed off axis.
How did a room full of tech experts miss this at the Google event?!
so whats your point?
It's possible it was just those 2 devices. Not every display is exactly the same, even on same phones.
I am curious is if you checked to see if the brightness levels were the same?
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It's possible it was just those 2 devices. Not every display is exactly the same, even on same phones.
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It was consistent on the multiple devices they had on display.
I also checked display brightness and color settings as you can see in the pictures. Like I said, the difference is more obvious in person and I'm shocked no tech reviewers have mentioned it. I've even noticed it while watching YouTube videos with reviewers holding the devices side by side.
Interesting
PuffDaddy_d said:
It was consistent on the multiple devices they had on display.
I also checked display brightness and color settings as you can see in the pictures. Like I said, the difference is more obvious in person and I'm shocked no tech reviewers have mentioned it. I've even noticed it while watching YouTube videos with reviewers holding the devices side by side.
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I noticed it too and tweeted about it hoping to get an answer from Jonathan Morrison. No reply from him so came here searching.
Check that pic in my tweet. This is a screenshot taken from YouTube video.
https://twitter.com/Gautam_Thapar/status/1050680718941073409?s=19
I pre-ordered Pixel 3 and now I am a bit worried.
GizmoFreak said:
I noticed it too and tweeted about it hoping to get an answer from Jonathan Morrison. No reply from him so came here searching.
Check that pic in my tweet. This is a screenshot taken from YouTube video.
https://twitter.com/Gautam_Thapar/status/1050680718941073409?s=19
I pre-ordered Pixel 3 and now I am a bit worried.
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That's the same video that caught my eye. Matthew Moniz has a video about the notch that shows both phones with two different temperatures as well. He doesn't mention it either. I am hoping Erica Griffin does a test on it, but she topically only buys the larger version...
Coming from the 2 XL, my main concern is that it's better than that panel. If it is, then I'm happy.
To me, that notch is still enough to make me avoid the 3 XL even if it has slight better color temperature. There's always gonna be something better, bright, whiter, whatever. I'm looking at the overall package at this point in the game and the regular 3 is the better compromise for me.
I went to the Verizon store today and also noticed a difference in the color temperature of the displays. But I could've sworn the XL had the warmer panel. I'm sure there a ton of variability between screens even among the same model especially so soon after release. Not a big deal but I liked the XL screen a bit better especially when watching media. To my eyes the difference between 1080 and 1440 is noticeable. The regular 3 screen is also much smaller than I thought it would be. I figured it'd be pretty close to my Samsung Galaxy S8 but it's a good deal smaller. So I cancelled my Pixel 3 pre-order and went for the XL.
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Coming from the 2 XL, my main concern is that it's better than that panel. If it is, then I'm happy.
To me, that notch is still enough to make me avoid the 3 XL even if it has slight better color temperature. There's always gonna be something better, bright, whiter, whatever. I'm looking at the overall package at this point in the game and the regular 3 is the better compromise for me.
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Yes, the display on both models is considerably better than the pixel 2 series. I wonder if anyone could compare them to the OG pixels? I loved their screens.
I watch a lot of videos on the net and I realize as the screen of Google pixel 3 to a pink tint ??
I cancelled Pixel 3 and ordered Pixel 3 XL.
Hi, I really hesitate between the two versions now.
I took a fairly janky photo the other day at the Verizon store and the screens looked identical. Both phones in max brightness, adaptive color setting. They looked identical (that's why I took the photo). Unfortunately I couldn't move then from their secure displays, and actually was quite a bit off center for the pixel 3 because another customer wanted to spend 30 minutes with then like I was . The demo models had a purple-and-yellow gradient background image on them, which also looked identical on each phone. I couldn't actually handheld the devices at the time, though, so it's hard to get a good comparison, but the screens looked really great regardless. I'm not worried in the slightest at this point. We'll see if the internet starts up a new conspiracy about screen issues, though.
I looked at the 3/3Xl side by side in 2 different stores yesterday. The smaller one is definitely warmer .. looks more saturated.
Made sure both were at 100 % brightness. No adaptive brightness. Adaptive display color more on both.
Both looked very nice compared to my 2XL.. but the smaller one did look like it had its saturation turned to 11.
rkial said:
I looked at the 3/3Xl side by side in 2 different stores yesterday. The smaller one is definitely warmer .. looks more saturated.
Made sure both were at 100 % brightness. No adaptive brightness. Adaptive display color more on both.
Both looked very nice compared to my 2XL.. but the smaller one did look like it had its saturation turned to 11.
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My concern is that the whites are just not as white on the regular pixel 3 and it will effect how we perceive the image quality of the photos we take. I make quick edits on my phone using Snapseed all the time, and I don't want it to look different than what I expect.
Well as mentioned in another thread here (the iFixit teardown), the smaller's display is LG while the XL is Samsung.
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Google+Pixel+3+Teardown/113763
Bummer... time to wait for more reviews to see differences.
I just received my Pixel 3 and compared it to my 2XL, and I'm so glad I did because I was ready to jump the gun and assume it was a horrible display as soon as I found out it was made by LG. I don't know how it personally compares to the Pixel XL 3, but the Pixel 3's screen is just flat out better when compared to my Pixel 2XL. The viewing angles are vastly better. There isn't a huge color shift when tilted. The colors seem significantly more vibrant. There seems to be less black crush (not perfect).
I was really considering returning my Pixel 3 until I compared the display to my Pixel 2XL. Man, I am glad I did, because I often found that my 2 XL with a case+whitedome screen protector were way too heavy and nearly impossible to use one handed. To be fair, I also prefer smaller phones. I would've bought the Pixel 2 instead of the 2XL if they had just maintained the same design. And I definitely loved my og Pixel over the og Pixel XL.
A small update -
I visited a Verizon store yesterday, and it does seem that the screens are different in temperature. The 3 had a bit cooler temp than the 3XL, but they both looked amazing. I set them both on the 3 color modes and they were a tiny bit different than one another, but again they are both really nice and look calibrated well.
I'm still on LG G4, which has an amazing screen (LCD though), and the two pixels are amazing, compared.
Hello,
So i have been following pocophone threads and reddit page and it is getting me very confused.
Many people complaining about different stuff of the phone like:
- Touchscreen lag
- screen bleeding
- Bad signal/cellular connection
- Bad screen view in sun
- Bad notification handling
- bad hotspot
- average camera
- Audio is not much
- only white color notification LED
I was wondering if these problems are hardware related or can be fixed with software update or by flashing a custom rom ?
other says that it depends on the production time of the phone, early production seems to be suffering from Screen bleeding and touchscreen lag, and such.
Thank you very much for your time.
Shady282 said:
Hello,
So i have been following pocophone threads and reddit page and it is getting me very confused.
Many people complaining about different stuff of the phone like:
- Touchscreen lag
- screen bleeding
- Bad signal/cellular connection
- Bad screen view in sun
- Bad notification handling
- bad hotspot
- average camera
- Audio is not much
- only white color notification LED
I was wondering if these problems are hardware related or can be fixed with software update or by flashing a custom rom ?
other says that it depends on the production time of the phone, early production seems to be suffering from Screen bleeding and touchscreen lag, and such.
Thank you very much for your time.
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Yet another thread about this ......
Still to clear things as per my 2 month experience with the phone. I don't go by tests but mainly how it impacts my usage of the phone as a daily drivers , disclaimer I am not a gamer
1. Debatable if it hampers daily usage as a phone, most disturbed with this are gamers.
2. Present in almost all LCD equipped phones , a very small percentage has bleed which is apparent during regular use.
3. Non issue.
4. Very legible in harsh sunlight also but changes colours to grey light brown tones. Not suitable for watching videos and why would anybody watch videos in harsh sunlight also.
5. Yes, but being improved. Presently notifications show only for a few seconds only and that too in the beta roms
6. Non issue.
7. Low light is an issue. Bright light cam is as good as comparable phones
8. By audio if u mean earpiece volume that is more than enough, speaker is good, headphone might be low if u listen at high volume.
9. Yes led is only white and that too very small.
2 and 9 are hardware and will remain as it is.
1 some says is software and some say hardware. Poco says correcting in future upgraded so take ur pick.
Apart from the above it does not have widevine L1 support yet, so u cannot watch hd or fhd videos on Netflix or Amazon .
Now to see what u get, at a very reasonable price u get a phone with latest gen SOC, latest spec ram and storage, decent camera, great battery life , Dev friendly phone supported by a thriving community of devs, specially with Sphinx 1.7 kernel doing wonders with performance AND battery life.
Disclaimer : the views expressed are entirely mine based on my 2 months usage of the phone and I am in no way associated with Xiaomi or poco or even the cellular industry and have no commerical benefits associated with this phone or promoting it in any way.
If you start nitpicking, you can do it for any phone, even the best of best have issues, the thing is how you can make a compromise with those issues. You have already made a compromise upon deciding whether to buy poco or not, that's a compromise on price, so you do assess the value proposition , affordability, features, look and feel and last but not least the bragging rights...if all these things fits your bill you buy that one. Hence if poco fits your compromise lists, just buy it or buy the one which is apt.
josinpaul said:
If you start nitpicking, you can do it for any phone, even the best of best have issues, the thing is how you can make a compromise with those issues. You have already made a compromise upon deciding whether to buy poco or not, that's a compromise on price, so you do assess the value proposition , affordability, features, look and feel and last but not least the bragging rights...if all these things fits your bill you buy that one. Hence if poco fits your compromise lists, just buy it or buy the one which is apt.
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Yes, exactly what i m trying to do. To assess and see how i can compromise.
No phone is perfect, but i m trying to know what are the issues and if the community or custom roms fixed them if they are software based and which are permanent.
And accordingly i ll make the decision.
Thanks
sanjay0501 said:
Yet another thread about this ......
Still to clear things as per my 2 month experience with the phone. I don't go by tests but mainly how it impacts my usage of the phone as a daily drivers , disclaimer I am not a gamer
1. Debatable if it hampers daily usage as a phone, most disturbed with this are gamers.
2. Present in almost all LCD equipped phones , a very small percentage has bleed which is apparent during regular use.
3. Non issue.
4. Very legible in harsh sunlight also but changes colours to grey light brown tones. Not suitable for watching videos and why would anybody watch videos in harsh sunlight also.
5. Yes, but being improved. Presently notifications show only for a few seconds only and that too in the beta roms
6. Non issue.
7. Low light is an issue. Bright light cam is as good as comparable phones
8. By audio if u mean earpiece volume that is more than enough, speaker is good, headphone might be low if u listen at high volume.
9. Yes led is only white and that too very small.
2 and 9 are hardware and will remain as it is.
1 some says is software and some say hardware. Poco says correcting in future upgraded so take ur pick.
Apart from the above it does not have widevine L1 support yet, so u cannot watch hd or fhd videos on Netflix or Amazon .
Now to see what u get, at a very reasonable price u get a phone with latest gen SOC, latest spec ram and storage, decent camera, great battery life , Dev friendly phone supported by a thriving community of devs, specially with Sphinx 1.7 kernel doing wonders with performance AND battery life.
Disclaimer : the views expressed are entirely mine based on my 2 months usage of the phone and I am in no way associated with Xiaomi or poco or even the cellular industry and have no commerical benefits associated with this phone or promoting it in any way.
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Is the headphone audio output still low?
Bad signal? No way. Its very good indeed.
Very good screen bright even on sun too. GSM Arena review prove it anyway.
Audio is good, louder than most is smarts. GSM Arena again.
Camera is really good. One of the bests available.
Screen bleeding is almost impossible to see, but yes, it exists. Touch lag is bad but the fix is on the beta already.
It has been a week since I started using this phone and here is my review:
- So light and so thin. There is no other phone like it.
- Everything is very smooth and fast.
- No heating issues. I usually take a break when I first setup a phone (large file transfer, mass installation of apps...etc.) for I do not like holding a hot chunk of glass, plastic, or aluminium. I did not experience that with this phone.
- Display quality is excellent. My last phone had deltaE score of 1.4 and I assume 11L5G is probably in that area too. In other words, near perfect white balance and color reproduction.
I am not sure if I have the pentile or the other inferior display. All I know is that it is indistinguishable from AMOLED used in S10 Plus and top notch LCD screen of my previous phone.
- Camera. It has noticeable and annoying lag in low light situation. I am not talking about dark dark settings but just indoor situation. I press the shutter then it takes a photo just when I start wondering if I did not press the shutter button. Since such shutter lag is just a strange problem I never experienced on other phones, I expect it to be fixed on next update.
- Build quality is quite good and its back panel looks very premium.
- Vibration motor is excellent. This is the one area where manufactures cut corners and I am glad it is the not case this time.
- Widevine L1 even after unlock. But you cannot install NetFlix from Playstore but APK install works fine.
Overall, I am very much pleased with this phone. If you want a phone that is light and thin, you have no other choice but to go with this one. Ever since introduction of 5G, the market kept pumping out thick and heavy phones. Xiaomi too until this phone. What's great is that this phone is not just light but comes with great CPU, display, large battery, build quality, vibration motor and everything. It would've been perfect if no shutter lag issue. I do expect the issue to be fixed since it cannot possibly be a hardware problem.
EDIT: I retract what I said about display quality. It is, indeed, distinguishable from AMOLED used in S10 Plus or my previous phone which uses LCD with 441 ppi. Text do not appear as sharp as those. It is micro blurry and you may not even notice it if your sight is not so very good. I am still not sure if my phone came with pentile or delta though.
Tried Gcam 8.1 forced 4k60 on main lens, works well, Snapdragon 780G 5G version
EDIT: I retract what I said about display quality. It is, indeed, distinguishable from AMOLED used in S10 Plus or my previous phone which uses LCD with 441 ppi. Text do not appear as sharp as those. It is micro blurry and you may not even notice it if your sight is not so very good. I am still not sure if my phone came with pentile or delta though.
vandal4e said:
Tried Gcam 8.1 forced 4k60 on main lens, works well, Snapdragon 780G 5G version
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It's been a while, around 2 years since I used Gcams. I am currently trying various copies of Gcams. Many works well but it sucks is that there seems to be no config file that is for S5KGW3 sensor.
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EDIT: I retract what I said about display quality. It is, indeed, distinguishable from AMOLED used in S10 Plus or my previous phone which uses LCD with 441 ppi. Text do not appear as sharp as those. It is micro blurry and you may not even notice it if your sight is not so very good. I am still not sure if my phone came with pentile or delta though.
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I'm having the same issue. Last week I have ordered the Mi 11 Lite 5G and when watching videos (War Thunder for example) the lack of details in those videos is big compared to my Redmi Note 8 Pro. The screen is also slightly brighter and discoloured. That probably means we have the RGB Delta screen.
Hi,
I'm planning to buy a Mi 11 lite 5G.
What about battery life ?
Olivier
JoudaCZE said:
I'm having the same issue. Last week I have ordered the Mi 11 Lite 5G and when watching videos (War Thunder for example) the lack of details in those videos is big compared to my Redmi Note 8 Pro. The screen is also slightly brighter and discoloured. That probably means we have the RGB Delta screen.
JoudaCZE said:
I'm having the same issue. Last week I have ordered the Mi 11 Lite 5G and when watching videos (War Thunder for example) the lack of details in those videos is big compared to my Redmi Note 8 Pro. The screen is also slightly brighter and discoloured. That probably means we have the RGB Delta screen.
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I checked and confirm that I do have delta panel. However, I cannot tell a difference when watching a video. The difference is only noticeable when reading fine text. That is compared to my previous device Honor 20 which has superb 440 ppi LCD screen.
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pantale said:
Hi,
I'm planning to buy a Mi 11 lite 5G.
What about battery life ?
Olivier
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Battery life is highly subjective - everyone's usage patter is different.
AccuBattery Battery Health shows that my device has 3561 mah estimated capacity. And it gets me about 10h 30 min. of on screen time. Note that I do not game and use phone mainly for browsing stuff and apps that are not heavy.
pantale said:
Hi,
I'm planning to buy a Mi 11 lite 5G.
What about battery life ?
Olivier
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I am very disappointed about it. The capacity of the battery is only at 90%. I have to reload several times a day. My old Poco F1 lasts longer.... With the same apps.
4K2K said:
Battery life is highly subjective - everyone's usage patter is different.
AccuBattery Battery Health shows that my device has 3561 mah estimated capacity. And it gets me about 10h 30 min. of on screen time. Note that I do not game and use phone mainly for browsing stuff and apps that are not heavy.
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I don't use my phone too much. Currently, I have a Oneplus 5T that is almost 5 years old and I only charge it every couple of days, so I hope to do the same with this one.
pantale said:
I don't use my phone too much. Currently, I have a Oneplus 5T that is almost 5 years old and I only charge it every couple of days, so I hope to do the same with this one.
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I came from a oneplus 5T.
5T I could not get past a whole day without charging once, warp charge is still fast but still.
Mi 11 lite I can go the whole day and it charges fast if needed.
Yes, fast charge is very efficient, with 33W it's better than the OP5T with 20W.
4K2K said:
It has been a week since I started using this phone and here is my review:
- So light and so thin. There is no other phone like it.
- Everything is very smooth and fast.
- No heating issues. I usually take a break when I first setup a phone (large file transfer, mass installation of apps...etc.) for I do not like holding a hot chunk of glass, plastic, or aluminium. I did not experience that with this phone.
- Display quality is excellent. My last phone had deltaE score of 1.4 and I assume 11L5G is probably in that area too. In other words, near perfect white balance and color reproduction.
I am not sure if I have the pentile or the other inferior display. All I know is that it is indistinguishable from AMOLED used in S10 Plus and top notch LCD screen of my previous phone.
- Camera. It has noticeable and annoying lag in low light situation. I am not talking about dark dark settings but just indoor situation. I press the shutter then it takes a photo just when I start wondering if I did not press the shutter button. Since such shutter lag is just a strange problem I never experienced on other phones, I expect it to be fixed on next update.
- Build quality is quite good and its back panel looks very premium.
- Vibration motor is excellent. This is the one area where manufactures cut corners and I am glad it is the not case this time.
- Widevine L1 even after unlock. But you cannot install NetFlix from Playstore but APK install works fine.
Overall, I am very much pleased with this phone. If you want a phone that is light and thin, you have no other choice but to go with this one. Ever since introduction of 5G, the market kept pumping out thick and heavy phones. Xiaomi too until this phone. What's great is that this phone is not just light but comes with great CPU, display, large battery, build quality, vibration motor and everything. It would've been perfect if no shutter lag issue. I do expect the issue to be fixed since it cannot possibly be a hardware problem.
EDIT: I retract what I said about display quality. It is, indeed, distinguishable from AMOLED used in S10 Plus or my previous phone which uses LCD with 441 ppi. Text do not appear as sharp as those. It is micro blurry and you may not even notice it if your sight is not so very good. I am still not sure if my phone came with pentile or delta though.
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I have an issue with Bluetooth, it doesn't automatically connect to paired devices like my car (most importantly), speaker or laptop.
I have searched for a solution on Internet but couldn't find a fix. BTW same problem on my Poco F2 pro and Oppo X2pro. All are global rom.
Has anyone a solution for this problem?
What about carriers AT&T won't work with it the 410 MCT won't stick on apn
Guys I'm having issues with heating. Could you check your battery temperature while doing some normal app browsing? I'm getting 33-37c
Hello,
Have since 03.02.2023 the s23 ultra. I noticed the first time that the colors are not quite as good. I then compared it with my s21 ultra and indeed the colors of the s23 ultra are not as color intensive. They shine less. Have made the same settings on both smartphones.
Unfortunately, this can not be captured on pictures very well. If you look at the picture from a YouTuber, you can see what I mean in the blue area.
Has no one noticed this yet?
Best regards
yeah noticed the same thing, but I was coming from a OnePlus 5.
color are washed out and feels like there a white film .
Coming from a S21ULTRA... I'm not seeing the difference. Play with the display calibration - mine are set the same way and look the same, a tad brighter on the new phone.
Coming from s21u I find it perfectly fine but I also always use my phone with the natural setting, not vivid setting so maybe that's why.
Honestly, looking at your pic I feel like your s21 almost had some sort of haze filter on it by looking at the "white" area. Which makes the blues sort of darker too. Hard to tell really from a pic.
But what I can tell you is that I still find the s23u screen as splendid as the s21u
My Note 10 screen looks better than my s23u
The longer I have the s23u the more I am considering returning it.
On mine the colors are pretty fine, on the left the crop of the S23U screen and on the right the target.
On the left is what my camera sees, looking with my eyes I see mostly the same colors, no exactly but nothing to be worried about. This is the most objetive test I tried to do.
Coming from an S22U, I like this S23U much more... and something more to add, this is the first firmware and for sure It will be improved, but this is the first time I get a firmware from Samsung that doesn't have so many issues like the other Galaxies Samsung released in the past.
The configuration of my screen is this:
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Coming from a S21ULTRA... I'm not seeing the difference. Play with the display calibration - mine are set the same way and look the same, a tad brighter on the new pho
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Ipse_Tase said:
Coming from a S21ULTRA... I'm not seeing the difference. Play with the display calibration - mine are set the same way and look the same, a tad brighter on the new phone.
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Completely agree there's a few threads on samsung and reddit talking about it. Some say it's new display tech that changes room to room. I'm not sure what it is but I hate it lol. Compared to my s21 it lacks the punch,depth,sharpness, color gamut. It has nothing to do with setting we can change at the moment from what I can find. It's driving me crazy how off it is. I thought I had a lemon of a display or something. Someone in another said he checked on multiple s23u and they all had the same look
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Hello,
Have since 03.02.2023 the s23 ultra. I noticed the first time that the colors are not quite as good. I then compared it with my s21 ultra and indeed the colors of the s23 ultra are not as color intensive. They shine less. Have made the same settings on both smartphones.
Unfortunately, this can not be captured on pictures very well. If you look at the picture from a YouTuber, you can see what I mean in the blue area.
Has no one noticed this yet?
Best regards
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Completely agree there's a few threads on samsung and reddit talking about it. Some say it's new display tech that changes room to room. I'm not sure what it is but I hate it lol. Compared to my s21 it lacks the punch,depth,sharpness, color gamut. It has nothing to do with setting we can change at the moment from what I can find. It's driving me crazy how off it is. I thought I had a lemon of a display or something. Someone in another said he checked on multiple s23u and they all had the same look
coming from iphone14pro max.
its way more better then it ever was on iphone.
its my first androidphone since galaxy s3.
vnmlike said:
coming from iphone14pro max.
its way more better then it ever was on iphone.
its my first androidphone since galaxy s3.
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Yes , but most people here are comparing it to other Samsung devices which used to have more saturated colors , but iPhone have always ben washed out since start , so you should see it as an upgrade switching to S23 , but from Samsung to Samsung you will feel a little bit downgraded
but what actually happened is Samsung decided to go for a more accurate and natural colors instead of punchier vibrant colors as before
smellz said:
Hello,
Have since 03.02.2023 the s23 ultra. I noticed the first time that the colors are not quite as good. I then compared it with my s21 ultra and indeed the colors of the s23 ultra are not as color intensive. They shine less. Have made the same settings on both smartphones.
Unfortunately, this can not be captured on pictures very well. If you look at the picture from a YouTuber, you can see what I mean in the blue area.
Has no one noticed this yet?
Best regards
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This is the first thing I also noticed. I've already mentioned this on forums, I thought that my phone was defective, so I wanted to return, and then i went to local shops and saw that all s23u's are the same...
Looks great to me in natural. I hate the blown out over saturated colors that Samsung used to use. I think it looks better than my S22U did.
I remember going from an LG G3 to an S7E and was like, my god these colors are oversaturated. LOL. I came to kind of like it that way, but still recognized it's not particularly "accurate" compared to some of the less vibrant displays from other manufacturers. Compared to my S20+ it doesn't seem much different. The actual display panel and technology seems much improved, but the colors seem very similar.
The adapting to lighting conditions seems to be key. Sometimes the screen looks great, and others it's way too warm or cold. Could it be a new polarizing filter? It does seem better after the recent update, but still is not as vibrant or as consistent as the S22U.
S23U have great screen but default have more natural colors compare to previous models. Color vibrant can be change.
For me this is good change, more eyes friendly
My s23 ultra has a slight red tint in the middle.. anyone else?
i did notice that it changes based on where i am or time of day - sometimes it can be quite punchy and contrasty others is quite washed - you can esp notice it in the greys/whites etc
i think it is this self adapting tech
doesnt bother me to death but yea its happening
I noticed this coming from an S22U as well. Viewing angles are poorer -- when you tilt the phone slightly downwards there's a green hue that appears quickly at the bottom. I sold and rebought like four to five sets and they all had the same "issue" too to varying extents.
Partly as a result of this I feel that colour uniformity is not as good on the S23U. On a pure white background, I feel that there are certain parts of the screen that have a different tint from the other parts. This was also apparent in most of the sets I sold and rebought.
My first S23 Ultra also had a "Mura" pattern near the status bar as though the status bar icons were burnt in. I guess they loosened quality control this year because the last time I had issues with the screen was the Galaxy S6
I hope it won't be offtopic if I mention base S23 (not ultra). So I had the impression that the color reproduction was a bit below my expectations. What's funny - standard wallpapers are great to present this problem, it's a really good benchmark.
So I set the blue planet (attached) as a wallpaper/lock screen on two phones, my old S20 FE 5G and new S23. On S23 gradients are not smooth. Period. It's enough to tell if the panel has good color reproduction or not. Same wallpaper on S20 FE 5G looks better (S23 has worse color reproduction). I don't have a third phone to take a photo of how it looks.
Ps. one minor thing to notice; when I wake up screens, both displays perform comparable and in both cases gradients on wallpapers do not look smooth, but after unlocking phones it changes. S20 FE 5G seems to render nicer colors and gradients become smooth. On S23 though, gradients are still not smooth (looks like color palette limitation or something). So I don't have a clue if this is hardware or software issue. I have only few days to decide if I return S23 or keep it.
Pss. I checked the webp file and it's perfectly fine, it looks super nice on my MacBook or my external display.