Hello,
Since, two weeks now, my OnePlus X had a troubleshooting. The temperature of the phone is really high when I use it for simple task like browse the Internet (Chrome / Edge / Firfox) or Whatsapp, SMS, etc. And when I try to play at a simple game with no 3D stuff, it's almost impossible to hold it in hands. This is really really hot ! Battery at 42°C when I use any app like Whatsapp, Chrome/ Edge, etc. That's super hot !!
What's the problem ?
I'm on a custom ROM, the one of @psychem (Lineage OS 17.1). Before that I was on YumeMichi one. But the problem was already on that build.
I think the main reason for this is the battery. The phone's battery will get hotter after 1-2 years. It will run cooler if you change the battery.
I have the same problem but it's not because battery, my phone heats up at upper side of phone where the SOC is.
Me too, at upper side on AospExtended-v6.7-onyx-20200321-ROM. Not on RR-O-v6.2.1-20181124-onyx-UNOFFICIAL-fatal I used before :/
Me too.. this is on top of the top where the temperature is really hot !
I think I will be forced to change the phone for a Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro or, Mi 10 Lite or Realme X2 Pro. When I 'll have money ^^
OnePlus is not really the same company right now.
Same issue, since maybe 1-2 months now. Still running ResurrectionRemix 5.8.1 (Android 7.1.2).
I just replaced the battery (labeled 2015) by a new one (labeled 2019) and the issue is still mostly the same. The battery is obviously lasting longer now and doesn't drop steeply after falling below ~50% like the old one used to, but the SoC ist still heating up a lot in the top left corner of the phone.
Since you mentioned that you've tried LOS 17.1 and other ROMs by YumeMichi, I won't try to test other ROMs for now. If the issue is already present in different ROMs, I suspect it might have something to do with recently updated apps / frameworks, so maybe some Google apps or Google Play Services.
Looking at htop in root-mode termux (tsu) there seems to be a lot of CPU activity all the time, but not necessarily a super obvious culprit that's steadily using a lot of CPU. But I think I see a couple of GoogleQuicksearchBox processes appearing much more frequently than usual and some of my regular apps seem to start new processes a lot, as evidenced by the same app name frequently re-appearing under new PID numbers. It also it feels like I'm running into low memory a lot more now, because apps have to reload more frequently when I switch among them, especially Google Maps and apps that use the Maps API (like rideshare apps). So I suspect that something is causing apps to frequently close and start again, perhaps by using up too much memory.
Is anyone making similar observations?
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Hey guys... I feel like I cannot keep the phone on for more that 72 hours continuously.
I'm using Galaxy SII, G version (I9100G). Currently everything original (no custom rom/kernel)
I believe that most of Android phones have the same problem.
After 50 hours++ of up time of the phone (I mean the phone keeps on for 50 hours), The phone will become noticeable lag, but just a bit, not too much. One of the best evidence is in the game Fruit Ninja. I will feel the lag everytime I slash the fruit.
I'm sure that most apps is closed (except background apps like samsung keypad) and my battery usage graph is in straight horizontal line (without any optimize software, only with BetterBatteryStats). Only 500 - 600MB of RAM is used and I think this is normal.
After I restart the phone, the phone will become smooth and the RAM will be 300 - 400MB used only. Others do not show any difference.
And sure, the phone will repeat the same problem after some hours.
I wish I can keep the phone on continuously and no need to restart it frequently just like normal phones.
Can someone share some experience about this?
Is there any solution for this?
Or this is the nature of Android?
Can Custom ROM solve this?
Your best bet is to use an app killer program so you can close anything and everything running in the background.
Holy... If you mean task killers, I can tell you that it will not work, but will make the situation far worse for Android 2.3 and up...
I use one that's built in to the ROM that I use and my phone runs great for days on end.
I'm using Memory Booster (RAM Optimizer) as my first experiment to solve this problem...
I've enjoyed my XT910 for a couple of years, but quit using it about 3-4 years ago. Now I want to use it with a secondary SIM, perhaps as a WiFi hotspot while roaming, but I find the speed appalling. Every operation takes seconds to show a result. Even unlocking to an SMS notification takes ~4 seconds.
Using MoKee 5.1 on a secondary ROM slot, I think. It's always on charge (as battery is slowly dying) and the only active app is PushBullet, used to see check my SMSs on other devices.
Does it make sense to invest in a new battery and keep this phone as my secondary? Or should I just get a cheap Chinese one, like Ulefone U007?
I don't expect miracles, just maybe using it as a light travel phone, mobile hotspot, speedcam notifier and occasional (once every two months) browsing. Should I maybe switch to a stock-based ROM that lives on the main slot? Get rid of slots altogether?
The phone lived some nice times, travelled around the world, edited and uploaded DSLR pictures with OTG, provided navigation to rickshaw drivers, was a portable desktop for a while, then a retro-gaming machine. Maybe it just wants to be retired...
Motomizer can help overclock it so it doesn't seem as slow. I haven't maxed mine out, just ramped it up about midway.
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I've bought a new battery and installed Mokee 5.1, upgraded later to 6.0. Battery life is ok-ish, but not much of a difference. I've measured the old battery to still have 1400-1500Ah, the new one is ~1700mAh. I suspect the poor battery life was due to some hanging processes.
Anyway, with Mookee 6.0, the phone is unbearably slow. I have whatsapp, viber, google maps and nothing else. LMK has been set to very aggressive.
When I receive an SMS, it takes 5-15 seconds for it to load, if it doesn't FC. When I unlock the phone (after it sat for a while) it takes at least 10s to come to life.
My suspicion is that there is high memory usage (Android reports 30-70MB remaining) which causes everything to be evicted from RAM. Not sure what can be done, except install an older android version. I thought the newer ones had better memory and battery management.
Android OS - 285MB
Android System - 99MB
Google Play services - 75MB
System UI - 54MB
Phone - 36MB
Viber - 35MB
Messaging service - 35MB
Whatsapp - 33MB
.......
Free memory 28MB
Not sure what I should do: switch to an older Android version? if so, which ROM would be more responsive but still frugal? Do not update apps as newer ones eat more memory? Give up?
I've already half-given up and ordered a cheap Blackview A7, but I really liked the Moto as a travel/backup phone.
Is it just me, or does the phone use a lot of RAM? Mine seems to be using 2.7GB minimum at all times. Seems high.
Higher would be more ideal. The Windows mindset of "I'm running out of RAM!" doesn't get you anywhere here; in Android, empty RAM is wasted RAM. My Droid Turbo averages ~1.8gb used of 3gb. Seems Nougat tries to average 60%-70% usage.
When you switch out of an app, it's moved to the background and (usually) suspended, but kept in memory so you can switch back to it quickly. It's things like this that take up memory you think should be "free".
In the event that you need to load up a big app, stuff running in the background is quickly and gracefully unloaded.
Unless you're getting constant foreground app crashes - which might indicate that something is forcefully keeping itself loaded and starving everything else of needed memory - you shouldn't worry about it. Android is fairly good at handling memory these days.
Septfox said:
Higher would be more ideal. The Windows mindset of "I'm running out of RAM!" doesn't get you anywhere here; in Android, empty RAM is wasted RAM. My Droid Turbo averages ~1.8gb used of 3gb. Seems Nougat tries to average 60%-70% usage.
When you switch out of an app, it's moved to the background and (usually) suspended, but kept in memory so you can switch back to it quickly. It's things like this that take up memory you think should be "free".
In the event that you need to load up a big app, stuff running in the background is quickly and gracefully unloaded.
Unless you're getting constant foreground app crashes - which might indicate that something is forcefully keeping itself loaded and starving everything else of needed memory - you shouldn't worry about it. Android is fairly good at handling memory these days.
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I notice this issue more on custom ROMs than stock firmware. On mine and my wife's Quarks (3GB RAM, as you well know), running Marshmallow and Lollipop versions of the same ROM, something causes the phones to just freeze up for about a minute, crashes, then RAM is released to use. It was happening at least once a day on my phone, then my wife said it was happening to her phone. (Our old phones, not the new LG V30 phones.) I've messed with the LMK settings, trying different combinations, to no avail. And I did report it in the Nougat ROM thread for that phone. (Marshmallow ROM thread no longer has support.)
So, while I totally agree with your answer, it is the technically correct answer, I do understand the OP's concern. I've gotten to the point where I like to see more free RAM, so I know my phone isn't about to freeze up. At least on my old phone.
I love custom ROMs, but the past couple of weeks it's been nice to run stock on my new LG V30 and have a very fluid experience. I've not disabled anything. I saw some others disable stuff and then got lagging. I've not touched a thing and my phone is very smooth.
Could a "theme" downloaded from play store take up a lot of RAM and/or slow things down, too?
This is my first experience with a theme.
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Could a "theme" downloaded from play store take up a lot of RAM and/or slow things down, too?
This is my first experience with a theme.
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Possibly, but probably not. From what I've seen, LG themes seem to skin far less than say, substratum does, and even substratum is pretty lightweight unless you get into transparent themes.
Keep in mind the default theme is itself...well, a theme. You're not really saving anything by staying on it. If you see a skin you like, use it, if you're really worried use one of the LG-provided ones that come with the phone.
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I notice this issue more on custom ROMs than stock firmware. On mine and my wife's Quarks (3GB RAM, as you well know), running Marshmallow and Lollipop versions of the same ROM, something causes the phones to just freeze up for about a minute, crashes, then RAM is released to use. It was happening at least once a day on my phone, then my wife said it was happening to her phone. (Our old phones, not the new LG V30 phones.) I've messed with the LMK settings, trying different combinations, to no avail. And I did report it in the Nougat ROM thread for that phone. (Marshmallow ROM thread no longer has support.)
So, while I totally agree with your answer, it is the technically correct answer, I do understand the OP's concern. I've gotten to the point where I like to see more free RAM, so I know my phone isn't about to freeze up. At least on my old phone.
I love custom ROMs, but the past couple of weeks it's been nice to run stock on my new LG V30 and have a very fluid experience. I've not disabled anything. I saw some others disable stuff and then got lagging. I've not touched a thing and my phone is very smooth.
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Interesting. It does seem like stock ROMs tend to be more conservative with RAM usage, whereas custom ROMs will have less aggressive minfree settings in order to keep more stuff loaded up. "Unused RAM is wasted RAM", but only up to a certain point; in my experience (Maserati with its ancient kernel as well as Quark) approaching ~100mb of free memory in LP/MM/N can bring things to a crawl, and pushing it can cause a kernel panic :good:
The only issue I've seen in Quark RR has been with the Pixiv app, though, and it does exactly what you said. But...I'm fairly certain the app itself leaks memory, as it only happens after browsing a while and is perfectly fine for another stretch after it OOMs and restarts.
My experience with stock ROMs in the past - Quark included - has been "smooth but lacking in features/customization" --- I've never really understood the complaints that stock is slow and claims that custom is blazing fast in comparison. The OEM has a decided advantage in that they have all the tools they need to compile the ROM properly, with then-current driver and kernel sources and a deep understanding of the hardware...I'd be really surprised to find a stock ROM from the last few years to be slower than custom.
But to be honest, my sample size is pretty small. *shrugs* I stick by what I've said, though, if anything the V30 doesn't use its memory enough; some people have complained about apps popping out of memory sooner than expected. LG is still putting out updates too, if a memory-management problem is found, hopefully they'll get right on fixing it.
I have an LG V20 running Android 7.1.1 that frequently is at 100% CPU load. For no apparent reason. I'm running a GPS Logger, Google Maps Navigation and a podcast player, and it makes the phone go nuts. It's very slow, sometimes I can't even turn on the screen, use my fingerprint or anything else. For a few minutes. I mean come on, it's a Snapdragon 820 with 4 gigs of RAM. Surely that must be enough? And in the beginning, it was. I've also had a Xiaomi Mi 6 for a while, and it had absolutely no issues at all. Granted the 835 is faster, but not _this_ much faster. I also have a OnePlus Two which faces the same issues, and which can't even charge the battery properly. Perhaps some malware on both phones? But I can't find the malware or poorly programmed software, because Android's malware protection is counterproductive.
So there is some app somewhere that is running amok. But which one? Since Nougat doesn't allow for task managers for security reasons (haha, funny) I can't see how the CPU load of individual apps and services is. Or can I? Where can one complain to Google? I found a bug report, but the devs just said "yup, working as intended". If they'd integrate a task manager where I can see the CPU load, fine. But it looks like they won't even do that. If I could, I would go back to Android 6.
Any suggestions what I could do? Looking at the battery use is of little help. It doesn't show anything out of the ordinary.
I am currently facing many problems. Everything was so smooth when I first bought by this phone but after several updates,it began to lag.I can't play games for more than 30 mins anymore.I know the solution would be to downgrade the miui,so my question is,which miui version is best for this phone for gaming. Another horrible problem I started facing recently is overheating.The fingerprint facility disappeared completely,and just from 5 min of usage,the fingerprint sensor would heat up to around 100 degree celcius. How would you approach this problem?
Find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis. A logging firewall can help you spot them. Debloat the useless apps that are using battery or bandwidth either with a Package Disabler or adb edits. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services, see if that helps.
Disable all carrier, Google and app feedback.
Rule #1 - if the firmware is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission let it be! This N10+ hasn't been updated for over 2.5 years, the current load is over 2 yo and it runs like a bat out of hell. Security simply isn't an issue in real time.
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I am currently facing many problems. Everything was so smooth when I first bought by this phone but after several updates,it began to lag.I can't play games for more than 30 mins anymore.I know the solution would be to downgrade the miui,so my question is,which miui version is best for this phone for gaming. Another horrible problem I started facing recently is overheating.The fingerprint facility disappeared completely,and just from 5 min of usage,the fingerprint sensor would heat up to around 100 degree celcius. How would you approach this problem?
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Use this old version MIUI 11 EXCALIBUR IN Global_V 11.0.4.0_ A 10. No issues at all using this rom from more than 2 years, btw i don't play games easily gives battery backup of more than 1 in moderate use..