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I'm an old Vario 2 user who, weary of poor battery life, moved to Symbian for the Nokia e71. It promised a solid range of features and great battery life and I have to say it delivered - trouble is, after 3 months I still find Symbian to be a right royal pain compared to Windows Mobile! So I'm thinking about getting the Vario 2 out of mothballs again.
Now in the past I had the original HERM160 1350mah battery which lasted about a year before becoming unusably short on life. I got a 1500mah Chinese job from Morpeth Mobiles which from the start was barely any better than my year old 1350mah job. I'm not interested in making the V2 any bigger with an outsize battery so I'm wondering - is it worth getting the "official" version of a 1350mah? Expansys have them but they are expensive at £32 (http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=138243). I would pay that if it gives me a good day's reasonable usage however.
I've searched the forums for comparisons, I couldn't find a definitive answer to this. Obviously there is a reason why ebay / 3rd parties' batteries are cheaper, but would I be likely to notice much difference with a £32 battery?
I do miss my Vario 2 I have to say. The e71 is great from the point of view of never having to worry about battery, but it's got nothing on the Vario from the point of view of usability. I do hope this new range of HTC handsets finally crack the battery issue.
It's just the matter of finding the right brand of 3rd party batteries. I've never bought anything from Expansys before, but I do not buy any batteries claiming to be original batteries on eBay or other auction sites because they are very often 3rd party ones made with refurbished cells and components with labels printed to look like an original battery in some no-name sweatshop.
I live in Hong Kong and I bought a handmade battery for my Hermes from this guy for about HK$120 with shipping:
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/item_detail-null-a517868370a4fd8e45fd00f6b2fed61b.jhtml
Its battery life matches (if does not exceed) a brand new original battery, way much better than my dying original battery with only a few hours of battery life.
Cameron Sino also makes good batteries, I have used their batteries before and they work just like the original.
Phil_123 said:
I live in Hong Kong and I bought a handmade battery for my Hermes from this guy for about HK$120 with shipping:
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/item_detail-null-a517868370a4fd8e45fd00f6b2fed61b.jhtml
Its battery life matches (if does not exceed) a brand new original battery, way much better than my dying original battery with only a few hours of battery life.
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Interesting. Any chance to find this in another language than chinese?
Go for the Genuine one
I suggest you go for the genuine battery even if it costs a little more...
I recently had trouble with my HTC TyTN battery which was 1.5 yrs old....and changed it to a new Genuine battery and can say that it saved me from the many hassles .. It came with a 6 month replacement warranty.
Phil_123 said:
It's just the matter of finding the right brand of 3rd party batteries. I've never bought anything from Expansys before, but I do not buy any batteries claiming to be original batteries on eBay or other auction sites because they are very often 3rd party ones made with refurbished cells and components with labels printed to look like an original battery in some no-name sweatshop.
I live in Hong Kong and I bought a handmade battery for my Hermes from this guy for about HK$120 with shipping:
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/item_detail-null-a517868370a4fd8e45fd00f6b2fed61b.jhtml
Its battery life matches (if does not exceed) a brand new original battery, way much better than my dying original battery with only a few hours of battery life.
Cameron Sino also makes good batteries, I have used their batteries before and they work just like the original.
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I'm also interested in this. That auction's currently showing HK$80 for whatever's on the page... But my Mandarin's not so good!
Like everybody else, I'm always looking for ways to get better battery life. 80 HKD for a hand-made battery seems like a very reasonable price. Obviously with the cost of postage to the UK factored in, it goes up a bit, but I can't imagine that much given the low weight and small size.
Do you really get that good a battery life compared to other third party cells like Cameron Sinos? If so, I might have a proposition for you. (send me a PM!)
I'm ready to purchase with them for my X10HT, if you're interested in that, I will help you to post to UK.
Of course all the charge will be yours, but should be not much.
Calvin
the word genuine is a lie i this case.
Don't buy batteries from this vendor:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250641711190
I bought them and get only 9hrs run time vs 30hrs with the Genuine OEM HTC battery.
I have always used the 3rd party extended battery (with 2800mAh) because I'm on the go a lot.
One died after a year use.
One died recently after 3-year use.
But other 4 are still alive and kicking.
2300mAh Battery BST-41 For Sony Ericsson X2 X10 Xperia
Hi ALL!!! Noob Here. New to the site!!!
I just received my NEW Sony Ericsson X10i...
and don't like the battery life. I want more!!!
I saw this on Ebay. It has a warranty. You don't have to change the back cover.
I was wondering if you guys had any thoughts or have tried it...
Any advice (good or bad) is welcomed!!!
Thanks
TrackChazer
★ 1 Year Warranty. Buy with confidence!.
★ If you are not satisfied when you receive the item, please return it within 14 days for a replacement or money back. Please contact me before you return it.
★ If item is defective in 3 months, We will send you a replacement without extra charger, or offer refund after we receive the defective item.
★ If item is defective after 3 months, you can still send it back to us. We will send you a new one after receiving the defective item. But you have to pay the extra shipping fee.
Uh, at least attach a direct link?
Edit: found but it's too cheap to believe. Research recommended before purchase.
Being new to the site, I did put a link but the site did not let me post it because i have less then 8 post on this site...
Its on Ebay for $11.99!!
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2300mAh Battery BST-41 For Sony Ericsson X2 X10 Xperia
Hi ALL!!! Noob Here. New to the site!!!
I just received my NEW Sony Ericsson X10i...
and don't like the battery life. I want more!!!
I saw this on Ebay. It has a warranty. You don't have to change the back cover.
I was wondering if you guys had any thoughts or have tried it...
Any advice (good or bad) is welcomed!!!
Thanks
TrackChazer
★ 1 Year Warranty. Buy with confidence!.
★ If you are not satisfied when you receive the item, please return it within 14 days for a replacement or money back. Please contact me before you return it.
★ If item is defective in 3 months, We will send you a replacement without extra charger, or offer refund after we receive the defective item.
★ If item is defective after 3 months, you can still send it back to us. We will send you a new one after receiving the defective item. But you have to pay the extra shipping fee.
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Looks good, thanks for the heads up.
it's a big battery...make the phone bigger but it worth if the life of that battery it is abot 2-3 day because i charged my phone every day with te stock one
Did you see the picture on Ebay? It claims that it is the same size as the OEM battery so you DO NOT need to change the back cover. You use the OEM cover
Hi,
up to now tests showed that no alternate batteries were an improvement if they fit in the standard case. Google for the name of the battery perhaps you find something.
Are you on stock firmware? If yes a modified firmware might be a good idea. With froyo I reached more then 70 hours with low usage. The new GB roms will reach this also in a few weeks I think.
Ralf
Thanks for the reply, I did install the latest 2.3.3 Wolfbreaks ROM...
1. Maybe thats why the battery life is short...
2. I did just get this phone...heavy use...may cause the short battery life.
3. My excitement for the phone is another reason battery life is short
Interesting find.
I never used the particular one you found on Ebay, but I have another regular-sized one from China claiming it has 2200mAh capacity.
I hate to burst your bubble, but I have in the past bought and tried many, many replacement batteries for SE, Moto, HTC and other handsets and not single one of them clearly exceeded the capacity of OEM ones. Sure those sellers say theirs have 2200mAh or 2300mAh compared to OEM's 1500mAh they seem a lot better, but in realty they are about the same as the OEM at best. The one I have (they advertised as 2200mAh) for my X10 seems a little bit better than OEM. The 2300mAh one on Ebay, at least, doesn't try to copy the look of OEM, and (from my experience) it usually is a good sign of they are better than self-claimed really cheap OEMs you can find everywhere in Ebay. In the end, long battery life is not a forte of android. It's not like we have symbian devices.
As far as I know, "Mugen" replacement battery seems truly better than OEMs, though I haven't tried them personally. They are not cheap, you know.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...xperia-x1-1800mah-extra-eros-akkumulator.html
Let me know if the one you found turns out to be good, I'm always looking for a spare battery that exceeds OEMs!
Awesome incite and input!!! Thanks Hasei!!!
I think I am going to buy it...!!!
I need more battery experience!!
hasei said:
Interesting find.
I never used the particular one you found on Ebay, but I have another regular-sized one from China claiming it has 2200mAh capacity.
I hate to burst your bubble, but I have in the past bought and tried many, many replacement batteries for SE, Moto, HTC and other handsets and not single one of them clearly exceeded the capacity of OEM ones. Sure those sellers say theirs have 2200mAh or 2300mAh compared to OEM's 1500mAh they seem a lot better, but in realty they are about the same as the OEM at best. The one I have (they advertised as 2200mAh) for my X10 seems a little bit better than OEM. The 2300mAh one on Ebay, at least, doesn't try to copy the look of OEM, and (from my experience) it usually is a good sign of they are better than self-claimed really cheap OEMs you can find everywhere in Ebay. In the end, long battery life is not a forte of android. It's not like we have symbian devices.
As far as I know, "Mugen" replacement battery seems truly better than OEMs, though I haven't tried them personally. They are not cheap, you know.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...xperia-x1-1800mah-extra-eros-akkumulator.html
Let me know if the one you found turns out to be good, I'm always looking for a spare battery that exceeds OEMs!
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Symbian battery is PATHETIC. I still have My N97Mini and my N8, alongside my HTC Sensation and SE X10, all heavily tweaked [you can't even tweak symbian that much] and I'll tell you now, its pathetic. Laggy like ****, but the battery wont even last 30 hours in minor usage, and not even 4 hours in hardout. My x10 can last like 4 days in the minimal usage and 10 hours in hardout, but I still carry one extra battery around =]
hasei said:
Interesting find.
I never used the particular one you found on Ebay, but I have another regular-sized one from China claiming it has 2200mAh capacity.
I hate to burst your bubble, but I have in the past bought and tried many, many replacement batteries for SE, Moto, HTC and other handsets and not single one of them clearly exceeded the capacity of OEM ones. Sure those sellers say theirs have 2200mAh or 2300mAh compared to OEM's 1500mAh they seem a lot better, but in realty they are about the same as the OEM at best. The one I have (they advertised as 2200mAh) for my X10 seems a little bit better than OEM. The 2300mAh one on Ebay, at least, doesn't try to copy the look of OEM, and (from my experience) it usually is a good sign of they are better than self-claimed really cheap OEMs you can find everywhere in Ebay. In the end, long battery life is not a forte of android. It's not like we have symbian devices.
As far as I know, "Mugen" replacement battery seems truly better than OEMs, though I haven't tried them personally. They are not cheap, you know.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...xperia-x1-1800mah-extra-eros-akkumulator.html
Let me know if the one you found turns out to be good, I'm always looking for a spare battery that exceeds OEMs!
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Just ordered this battery for $34 USD, will post a review when tested in a couple weeks.
I think it will be a good move from my side to search for such a battery. Ebay, i'm coming!
Seriously, the phone saps away power like mad when using Wi-Fi...
guyz i would recommend not to use chinese or fake batteries.They can even blast.
I never used to play with my battery.
BEWARE!!
The stock battery is chinese, and not all that is chinese is horse dung.
(yeah, i thought that i got some fake battery myself, until i searched for the battery photos in the internet )
atikabubu said:
The stock battery is chinese, and not all that is chinese is horse dung.
(yeah, i thought that i got some fake battery myself, until i searched for the battery photos in the internet )
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but that's original!!
i've been using the 3200 mAh battery from ebay as my x10 battery for the past 2 months or so. It's really good if you don't mind the bulk, i can play psx games on my phone for about 8 hours and be left with 60% of my battery. if i don't use my phone much (just texting occasionally) it lasts about 2-4 days. So far no signs of overheating/blowing up .
(edit: used to be running on demand governor, recently switched to smartass. Battery seems to be doing even better)
bouncynemoss said:
i've been using the 3200 mAh battery from ebay as my x10 battery for the past 2 months or so. It's really good if you don't mind the bulk, i can play psx games on my phone for about 8 hours and be left with 60% of my battery. if i don't use my phone much (just texting occasionally) it lasts about 2-4 days. So far no signs of overheating/blowing up .
(edit: used to be running on demand governor, recently switched to smartass. Battery seems to be doing even better)
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is it this battery:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260836802...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_2817wt_905,or this 1:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-BATTE...ultDomain_3&hash=item336850790f#ht_1315wt_905
it's a 3200 battery, i'll try pming you the link, it won't let me post it.
If it sounds too incredible, it probably is...
Give it a thought: If the manufacturer of the original batteries would be able to squeeze a few extra hundreds milliamps into the battery without risking the battery security, don't you think they would have from the beginning?
There is always one or more downsides with these "better" batteries:
1: They're fake. in fact, it's only a 1700 mAh battery with a 2200 mAh sticker on it. Placebo warning here! Those reviews from other "customers"? Problably the manufacturer themselves, or payed "customers".
2: They're bigger, so they do need a different cover. These battery claims can be true, more capacity = larger battery. Something has to give in. (In this case: Size), right?
These bigger batteries are okay, as bigger battery means more capacity. You have to give up the slim size here.
3: They removed some or all security features in order to allow "overcharging". That way they can squeeze in a few more mAh in the battery.
The risk of overheating is very real here. There have been cases where such "no security" batteries have exploded, and in some cases even catching fire... while still in the owners pocket. Ouch! That gotta hurt alot.
Here is a video on overcharging a Lithium Ion battery, but it isn't far from what can happen to a Lithium Polymer battery without the security:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pizFsY0yjss
Does the official 2000 mah battery Increase the battery life in any way?
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It depends.
I bought an Anker 1900mah battery (which is roughly around the same as the original 1650mah *personal experience*) and having the 2 batteries that can last me ~14 hours each, I've justified that buying a 2000mah isn't worth it for the price.
If you have the money for it, sure go for it, but if you're kinda chintz like me, go for a cheaper solution.
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Of course it does. It has 17.5% more capacity, so you should expect 17.5% longer battery life.
Before you make your decision, I think you should consider buying another spare 1650mah battery instead. It doesn't require a different back battery cover, so you can just carry the battery around and swap it out when required. It'll cost less and you'll essentially be with 3300mah of juice.
But of course, that's if you don't mind the act of swapping the battery mid-day.
Oops, when I said "It depends" I was replying to the thread title. Ahah.
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Um, yeah 350/1650 = 21 & a bit % higher capacity. I've had one of these for a couple of months and I get around the 20% more zzzzs, etc, etc.
I tried a non Samsung 3500mAh battery which ended up being around 1900mAh based on two weeks worth of testing (not scientific I know, I don't have the equipment to test actual capacity) and more than a few charge/discharge cycles, it used to get hot (~45°C) when charging so I returned it to the place I bought it from.
For the same price as this battery I bought the original Samsung 2000mAh battery. If you can afford it, definitely get one of these. Despite other peoples positive experiences on here with non-Samsung batteries (and I've also seen just as many people who have had similar negative experiences like mine), I'll never buy a non-original battery again.
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For the same price as this battery I bought the original Samsung 2000mAh battery. If you can afford it, definitely get one of these. Despite other peoples positive experiences on here with non-Samsung batteries (and I've also seen just as many people who have had similar negative experiences like mine), I'll never buy a non-original battery again.
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Manufacturer batteries are guaranteed to do what you pay for, the other ones can vary enormously.
For example 99% of non Sony batteries for the PSP were utter trash, but I did find one company that specialized in replacements and those were about 95% of the Sony originals. But since most non manufacture batteries are sold to numpties who do no research generally it's more profitable to sell rubbish.
Yep agree with you 100% there That's been my experience as well.
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Manufacturer batteries are guaranteed to do what you pay for, the other ones can vary enormously.
For example 99% of non Sony batteries for the PSP were utter trash, but I did find one company that specialized in replacements and those were about 95% of the Sony originals. But since most non manufacture batteries are sold to numpties who do no research generally it's more profitable to sell rubbish.
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If you want the most out off your battery, try under volting your cpu using tegrak overclocking app. This way your bound to last every day with battery to spare even while watching 3 hours off video.
For more info see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1101355.html
When I got my G5 (Verizon VS987) I also got a spare battery and charging dock as a promotional extra.
The charging dock is connected to the USB port on my PC. When I swap batteries I put the discharged one in the charging dock and remove it when the lights indicate it's fully charged. If I don't swap batteries for a few days I'll stick it back into the charging dock for the few minutes it takes to bring it back to full charge.
Now I notice one battery is swollen, as if from charging too fast or ???
It still fits into the phone with some difficulty but it does fit.
I'm wondering if I should discard it or keep using it, wondering if it can damage the phone?
Any thoughts?
Do not use the swollen battery any more. Do not toss it in regular trash either - find an authorized battery recycling operation in your area. If you can't locate one immediately, store the battery in a dry, cool spot with electrical tape over the contacts until you can dispose of it properly. Continued use may cause the battery to fail and catch fire and/or explode.
Batteries can swell due to overcharging, but also wear and tear aging with frequent full charge cycles. If you've been using the battery daily for about a year it is not uncommon for it to show such signs of wear. Failure rates are also more common with cheaper, off-brand batteries that aren't made as well to begin with. Buy a replacement battery and make sure it is OEM quality.
I've had this happen once before with a Motorola V3 battery so you see how long ago that was!
I believe it's the USB port allowing charging at a faster rate than the factory charger? Two requirements, the charge must be from a USB port and the battery must be very discharged.
The swollen battery is genuine LG, sent direct from LG, whatever quality that might be. Both the swollen Motorola batteries continued to work just fine in the V3, the LG battery works but is VERY difficult to remove and is now out of the phone forever.
xs11e said:
I've had this happen once before with a Motorola V3 battery so you see how long ago that was!
I believe it's the USB port allowing charging at a faster rate than the factory charger? Two requirements, the charge must be from a USB port and the battery must be very discharged.
The swollen battery is genuine LG, sent direct from LG, whatever quality that might be. Both the swollen Motorola batteries continued to work just fine in the V3, the LG battery works but is VERY difficult to remove and is now out of the phone forever.
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It's not a problem of faster charging, but overcharging. The longer and more often a battery is charged 100% and left there, the quicker it wears out. If the battery is about a year old with daily use like this, a bit of swelling isn't unexpected.
There is no immediate threat from swelling but it is the start of failure if allowed to continue use. You surely don't want it expanding inside the phone from heat until it gets stuck and/or cause GPS, volume or other contacts to mess up by expanding the frame, etc.
Batteries aren't too expensive so order another one.
Not sure I agree, evidence seems to point to heat as the culprit since the battery wasn't charged that often.
Anyway, OEM batteries are available on eBay for under $12 and one should arrive Monday.
xs11e said:
Not sure I agree, evidence seems to point to heat as the culprit since the battery wasn't charged that often.
Anyway, OEM batteries are available on eBay for under $12 and one should arrive Monday.
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I wonder if those are legit LG made.
Yup, why wouldn't it be? It's a unique battery for an obsolete phone, everyone that has any quantity is dumping them. The one I'm getting is from an "overstock" dealer.
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Yup, why wouldn't it be? It's a unique battery for an obsolete phone, everyone that has any quantity is dumping them. The one I'm getting is from an "overstock" dealer.
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Yeah I was just curious. Will buy few myself that's not a bad deal at all. Yeah I can't blame people, this will be my last LG phone. Great specs and price, but build quality trash.
Sad part I know 3 people with LG V20 who are also having build quality issues. Speaker going on all of them and this is a common issue.
Nick216ohio said:
Yeah I was just curious. Will buy few myself that's not a bad deal at all. Yeah I can't blame people, this will be my last LG phone. Great specs and price, but build quality trash.
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I guess I've been lucky, I've had very few problems. I really miss an unlocked bootloader and a rooted phone with a custom ROM but this seems to do the job other than about 90% of the "wonderful" features being stuff I don't want, don't use and would delete if the phone was rooted..
I really wanted the removable battery and the SD card, I think LG is my only option for both isn't it?
I have no idea what (or IF) my next phone will be, maybe I'll drag out my old Motorola V3 and use it? <G>
Seriously, no kidding, it's been all downhill since my BlackBerry Bold.
I bought two spares batteries, one from Ebay with the external charge case that looks genuine but the battery lasts about 20-25% less than the original battery and a second one from Aliexpress that lasts half the time of the original battery. The one from Ebay ways the same as the original, the one from Aliexpress is lighter.
On both the batteries the green heatshrink is not exactly the same color as the original one.
So I think none of those batteries you can buy from those sites will have the same capacity as a original battery from a official reseller.
The one I got seems to be OEM, I suspect the ones you got were just old, I can't imagine anyone making an aftermarket battery for such a low sales volume phone.
I believe any battery you get will be 3 - 4 years old before you get it, that may be why the one I got took almost 40 hours to reach full charge.
So far it seems it will last as long as the original but who knows?
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took almost 40 hours to reach full charge
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You have some abnormal batteries, cables, and/or chargers...
No, all working as they should.
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Hello everyone !
I've use my poco f1 quite a lot this year and tried many mods/stuff on it and the battery got a bit old now, so I want to change it. It doesn't look too difficult to do it but when buying it I found different models.
I wanted to know if it's dangerous to buy a battery that has a bigger capacity than the original one, here is the one I found (on the website folk battery, 5400mAh, I can't post a link)
It sounds cool to be able to move to a bigger one but I don't know if jt's safe.
Please tell me if you know about it or if you know what model I should buy instead of this one.
Thanks in advance !
I've read the reviews for a battery similar to the one you are probably talking about. The battery is poorly made and is barely 2500mAh let aside the 5400mAh advertised.
Please buy battery only from Authorized Service Center.
But on a realistic note, original Poco battery costs around 2k including service. That's 14% percent the cost of a new Poco.
Alrich said:
I've read the reviews for a battery similar to the one you are probably talking about. The battery is poorly made and is barely 2500mAh let aside the 5400mAh advertised.
Please buy battery only from Authorized Service Center.
But on a realistic note, original Poco battery costs around 2k including service. That's 14% percent the cost of a new Poco.
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Thanks a lot, I'll buy an official one and changing it by myself doesn't look that hard
if it is original or good brand such as anker---just go ahead !!
from a long time i tested it for samsung s3 neo and it was totally impressive (it was anker battery with doubled capacity )