Android 10 drops SMS messages after idle? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've got an Ulefone Armor 9 I recently purchased. As part of setting it up to work as desired, I swapped away from the default messaging app to one that supports dual SIM operation a bit more gracefully.
I've since noticed that after a prolonged idle, such as sleeping, the phone drops all SMS messages. It isn't that they don't send notifications -- they simply don't exist as far as I can tell. I tried a different messenger, and while it displayed the texts received with the other one, the missing messages weren't there either.
This doesn't appear to be an issue between the carrier and phone. Or, rather, if it is it's impacting both carriers at the same time, because sending text messages to both numbers when the problem is present results in neither being delivered. The carriers don't buffer the messages for later delivery as if the phone was offline, and calls come through okay but do not resolve the SMS issue.
I can reboot the phone or manually open the SMS app/bring it to the foreground, after which point I will start receiving messages again. Only ones sent after performing this activity, however. The prior ones are lost.
I've checked to ensure that the app itself is running in the background and Android says that it is. I've not got anything that should be pausing it (that I'm aware of), so I'm not sure why Android would stop sending it messages. I'm also not familiar enough with Android to know how the OS handles texts. Clearly there's some sort of storage & OS management, because the alternate app I tried as part of troubleshooting was able to pull my message history.
Has anyone got any ideas on further troubleshooting steps, or insight into how Android handles texts in general that might help narrow down the point of failure?

GV00 said:
I've got an Ulefone Armor 9 I recently purchased. As part of setting it up to work as desired, I swapped away from the default messaging app to one that supports dual SIM operation a bit more gracefully.
I've since noticed that after a prolonged idle, such as sleeping, the phone drops all SMS messages. It isn't that they don't send notifications -- they simply don't exist as far as I can tell. I tried a different messenger, and while it displayed the texts received with the other one, the missing messages weren't there either.
This doesn't appear to be an issue between the carrier and phone. Or, rather, if it is it's impacting both carriers at the same time, because sending text messages to both numbers when the problem is present results in neither being delivered. The carriers don't buffer the messages for later delivery as if the phone was offline, and calls come through okay but do not resolve the SMS issue.
I can reboot the phone or manually open the SMS app/bring it to the foreground, after which point I will start receiving messages again. Only ones sent after performing this activity, however. The prior ones are lost.
I've checked to ensure that the app itself is running in the background and Android says that it is. I've not got anything that should be pausing it (that I'm aware of), so I'm not sure why Android would stop sending it messages. I'm also not familiar enough with Android to know how the OS handles texts. Clearly there's some sort of storage & OS management, because the alternate app I tried as part of troubleshooting was able to pull my message history.
Has anyone got any ideas on further troubleshooting steps, or insight into how Android handles texts in general that might help narrow down the point of failure?
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I'm not sure if this would help but try messing w/ "App Blocker's" settings for your SMS app or even disabling App Blocker altogether (in the settings menu under "smart assist" I think).

BigBossPlaya said:
I'm not sure if this would help but try messing w/ "App Blocker's" settings for your SMS app or even disabling App Blocker altogether (in the settings menu under "smart assist" I think).
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Unfortunately, it was already off, so no dice there. Ulefone pushed an update I thought might have fixed it, but after about 18 hours of idle I sent a test message and it fell into the void. Opened up the messenger app again and sent another and that one arrived without issue, but no sign of the first.

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You're welcome
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Did it occur again at your phone?
Yeah it occurs again everytime I get a VM, bummer. What type of SMS did you send with Hush SMS?
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Same here...
I am on Virgin mobile in the UK and I have the same problem, I got a voicemail this morning and I have deleted the voicemail but it still shows on my phone.
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I have to use HUSH SMS to clear my voicemail indicator.
For me it's actually a problem on my sim card. After a flash there is this residual text message that says i have a voicemail. It's wierd.
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Recently purchased an LG V10 with 5.1.1 stock, AT&T, and I've done absolutely no modding.
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Duplicate / Delayed Texts

Hey all,
I purchased this phone off Amazon about 6 weeks ago and instantly feel in love with it. And this was right before they announced that Sony would be selling these phones in local retailers in the US.
I've noticed for the last few weeks now, however, that some texts are coming in multiple times. It can range from 3-7 times that I receive the same text, and you can imagine how annoying that'd be. Sometimes, when I send a text to someone, I'll receive a duplicate of the previous text I got from whoever last texted me. Sometimes, I won't receive a text until much later- up to hours later. To top it off, sometimes MMS or group texts won't come through without prompting me to download the text. It wasn't bad at first, as it would happen sparingly, but now it's constant.
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travfran said:
Hey all,
I purchased this phone off Amazon about 6 weeks ago and instantly feel in love with it. And this was right before they announced that Sony would be selling these phones in local retailers in the US.
I've noticed for the last few weeks now, however, that some texts are coming in multiple times. It can range from 3-7 times that I receive the same text, and you can imagine how annoying that'd be. Sometimes, when I send a text to someone, I'll receive a duplicate of the previous text I got from whoever last texted me. Sometimes, I won't receive a text until much later- up to hours later. To top it off, sometimes MMS or group texts won't come through without prompting me to download the text. It wasn't bad at first, as it would happen sparingly, but now it's constant.
I've tried many options, from
- switching and updating/downgrading texting apps (Hangouts, Messenger, Stock texting app)
- editing and switching APN settings
- clearing my phone's cache.
To give some context, I transferred over my data from my Moto X 2013 and moved everything to my SD card the next day after transferring everything. The phone is not rooted. I'm also on AT&T but haven't contacted them about the issues yet (I would rather avoid hours of basic troubleshooting, unless they can actually fix it).
I'd really like to not have to lose all my text messages, and I shouldn't have to. Has anyone else had a similar problem and managed to fix it? What other routes should I try? If factory reset is the only option, what's the best way to back up and restore all my data (contacts, photos, texts)?
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are you using the stock texting app? I had these issues when I tried to use a 3rd party messenger a very long time ago. other than that Ive not had this issue.
also maybe check out your system time, something might be up with your towers in the area. I use clocksync as cricket had issues a few months back and I fell in love with the app.
civicsr2cool said:
are you using the stock texting app? I had these issues when I tried to use a 3rd party messenger a very long time ago. other than that Ive not had this issue.
also maybe check out your system time, something might be up with your towers in the area. I use clocksync as cricket had issues a few months back and I fell in love with the app.
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Thanks for the reply,
I use Hangouts as my default texting app. The week that I used the Stock Texting app, I still received duplicates and delayed texts, so I switched back to an interface that I enjoyed more. (Also, the Stock texting app is sometimes really slow when opening conversations)
My system time is on point, but I went ahead and turned off automatic sync for the time and dates.
What settings do you use for Clocksync, and did it fix any texting issues? I just now installed it.
Update to Marshmallow. See if that fixes the problem
travfran said:
Thanks for the reply,
I use Hangouts as my default texting app. The week that I used the Stock Texting app, I still received duplicates and delayed texts, so I switched back to an interface that I enjoyed more. (Also, the Stock texting app is sometimes really slow when opening conversations)
My system time is on point, but I went ahead and turned off automatic sync for the time and dates.
What settings do you use for Clocksync, and did it fix any texting issues? I just now installed it.
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Come to think of it google talk is what I was using when I was having those issues haha. probably not related but its something to keep in mind.
i use 1 hour intervals only when awake. idk if you need to be rooted or not for it to work.
There may be a problem with your sim card. Had this a while ago on another phone. Got the sim card replaced and it was gone
A few days later and I have some updates:
1. Have yet to change out my sim card. I will be going to ATT tomorrow to see if that fixes the issue.
2. Marshmallow update is not yet available. However, if I read it right, won't it disable using an external sd card? I wouldn't want to be rid of that feature, it was a big selling point for me.
3. I switched to the stock text message app, and it seemed to work well. It stopped duplicated texts from happening, but some MMS texts don't come through to me at all, and if they do they appear much later. Some texts I receive don't come in until about at least an hour after the contact sent it. Sometimes even 7 hours. Not to mention, the app itself is terribly slow.
4. I tried to switch back to Hangouts for a day after downgrading the app and using the stock texting app, but still had the existing issues from before.
5. Clocksync hasn't done anything for me.
Double Post,
Update:
It appears that getting a new SIM card did the trick after all. Went to the store on Saturday, days ago, and the texts don't appear to be duplicating and they seem to be showing up on time. I'm even back on Hangouts again. Yay!
You just need the patience to deal with how busy the store may be.
If anything changes, I'll let y'all know.

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