Phone recommendation (just bricked my V30) - LG V30 Questions & Answers

Just bricked my V30 of a few years. I was really happy with it and I -really- love the community that's still on this device. And I love the DAC (esp after the community fixed it after release lol).
Trouble is I understand it only works on T-Mobile towers when used on Google Fi. I wanted to switch because I personally have a venge against AT&T and Verizon, and I've actually had no cell provider for over a year as a result. I probably should have one though even if I'm on wifi all of the time
So... should I stick with another V30? I love this phone, but is that love blinding me to an option that might serve me better? (hackability, DAC, removable SIM and accepts an SD card). I just haven't been in the market for years and now I've gotta get it together in the next week before I travel to see family.
Thanks everyone <3

Kolhell said:
Just bricked my V30 of a few years. I was really happy with it and I -really- love the community that's still on this device. And I love the DAC (esp after the community fixed it after release lol).
Trouble is I understand it only works on T-Mobile towers when used on Google Fi. I wanted to switch because I personally have a venge against AT&T and Verizon, and I've actually had no cell provider for over a year as a result. I probably should have one though even if I'm on wifi all of the time
So... should I stick with another V30? I love this phone, but is that love blinding me to an option that might serve me better? (hackability, DAC, removable SIM and accepts an SD card). I just haven't been in the market for years and now I've gotta get it together in the next week before I travel to see family.
Thanks everyone <3
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So you have Google Fi as your service?
Because I know the US998 V30/V30+/even the US998 V30S gets T-mobile VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling on US998 firmware, even rooted stock firmware, with a T-mobile SIM card.
Plus, Sprint no longer exists. They were the OTHER Google Fi provider. T-mobile bought them and threw the Sprint brand name in the garbage. It's only T-mobile now and T-mobile sub-brands like "Metro".

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So you have Google Fi as your service?
Because I know the US998 V30/V30+/even the US998 V30S gets T-mobile VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling on US998 firmware, even rooted stock firmware, with a T-mobile SIM card.
Plus, Sprint no longer exists. They were the OTHER Google Fi provider. T-mobile bought them and threw the Sprint brand name in the garbage. It's only T-mobile now and T-mobile sub-brands like "Metro".
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Thanks for the reply, ChazzMatt. Ngl you're a big reason I love the V30 forums.
I don't currently have Fi service. And ok, I was thinking Google Fi service still switched between multiple providers' towers and that the V30 wouldn't work out with those features. According to fi.google.com/compatibility the V30 ranks as "compatible" but not "designed for," which means (according to the tool):
"Stay on the best connection by transitioning among multiple networks"
"Automatically connect to secure, high-quality public Wi-Fi networks"
"Switch faster from Wi-Fi to data when Wi-Fi is poor"
"Protect sensitive information through a Fi VPN"
"Make Wi-Fi calls"
In conjunction with some older posts that were referencing Sprint I conflated the two. So what is there no effective difference between functionality of, say, a V35 on Fi (rates "designed for") vs a V30?
Either way sounds like the V30 is still the device for me. Thanks

Kolhell said:
Thanks for the reply, ChazzMatt. Ngl you're a big reason I love the V30 forums.
I don't currently have Fi service. And ok, I was thinking Google Fi service still switched between multiple providers' towers and that the V30 wouldn't work out with those features. According to fi.google.com/compatibility the V30 ranks as "compatible" but not "designed for," which means (according to the tool):
"Stay on the best connection by transitioning among multiple networks"
"Automatically connect to secure, high-quality public Wi-Fi networks"
"Switch faster from Wi-Fi to data when Wi-Fi is poor"
"Protect sensitive information through a Fi VPN"
"Make Wi-Fi calls"
In conjunction with some older posts that were referencing Sprint I conflated the two. So what is there no effective difference between functionality of, say, a V35 on Fi (rates "designed for") vs a V30?
Either way sounds like the V30 is still the device for me. Thanks
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For Google Fi, here's an explanation written back in early April 2020 before Sprint disappeared from this Earth:
In Google Fi's case, a trio of carriers are used — Sprint, T-Mobile and regional carrier US Cellular. For Fi-certified devices, Google says its cellular services determines which carrier has the fastest network where you happen to be and connects you to that one.
Apr 3, 2020
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As they note, U.S. Cellular is a regional carrier. Most people aren't likely to encounter it. Sprint/T-mobile are the same thing now. So, realistically on Google Fi you would be using Wi-Fi + T-mobile.
My point about the US998 in particular was since you hated AT&T and Verizon, and their carrier branded V30 phones (AT&T H931 and Verizon VS996) work best (like to get VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling), the US998 was better with T-mobile service. For T-mobile, you can opt to get T-mobile H932 (but harder to root) or you can get the US998 (easier to root) and as long as you stay on stock rooted firmware you would still get T-mobile VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling. This would be with a T-mobile SIM card (actual T-mobile customer) and possibly even with Google Fi. But I'm not completely sure about that as I've never used Google Fi. But I know as a true T-mobile customer, the US998 is as good as the T-mobile H932 EXCEPT it doesn't have LTE band 72.

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Lg V30 No LTE, most of the time

So my lg v30 will connect to LTE on extremely rare cases, any other time it will not. I've been monitoring signal and events through Network Guru. According to it my LTE has a problem attaching. Whatever it is that means. So when it does connect to LTE and I move out of range of one tower, I get Tracking Area Update Failure. What could be causing this? How can I fix it. I've set the APN to the best of my ability, but currently I get message APN settings not available for this user. I can still add an APN and save it, but I have no idea if it actually saves cause I can't view the list of APNs. However even before this APN message I had these problems and I knew for a fact the APN was correct. Any help is appreciated!
What variant do you have
What firmware are you on
What carrier are you using
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What variant do you have
What firmware are you on
What carrier are you using
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At&t
I am on lineage is
I am using google fi, but since is not fully fi featured its basicay T-Mobile
DTexUS said:
At&t
I am on lineage is
I am using google fi, but since is not fully fi featured its basicay T-Mobile
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So you have H931 converted to US998 and then with Lineage custom ROM installed.
But you are limited to T-Mobile coverage.
Do you live in good T-Mobile area? For instance my mother doesn't. There's no T-Mobile towers near her.
If you are in a good T-Mobile area, you have two options:
1) Ask in Lineage custom ROM thread how to edit/create APN.
2) For test purposes, sign up for cheap T-Mobile MVNO like Mint to see if you get better "T-Mobile" LTE signal. You're only using T-Mobile anyway... First sign up and get "new" phone number just to get a Mint SIM card for test purposes. If you like it, then port your real phone number over and let the "test" phone account die (it's prepaid, so not much money).
Or any T-MOBILE MVNO which allows you to "Bring Your Own Phone".
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What variant do you have
What firmware are you on
What carrier are you using
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ChazzMatt said:
So you have H931 converted to US998 and then with Lineage custom ROM installed.
But you are limited to T-Mobile coverage.
Do you live in good T-Mobile area? For instance my mother doesn't. There's no T-Mobile towers near her.
If you are in a good T-Mobile area, you have two options:
1) Ask in Lineage custom ROM thread how to edit/create APN.
2) For test purposes, sign up for cheap T-Mobile MVNO like Mint to see if you get better "T-Mobile" LTE signal. You're only using T-Mobile anyway... First sign up and get "new" phone number just to get a Mint SIM card for test purposes. If you like it, then port you real phone number over.
Or any T-MOBILE MVNO which allows you to "Bring Your Own Phone".
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I have tried many different carriers, all the same no LTE but gsm/edge works fine. Today I got to my jobs workshop and LTE started working, but as soon as I got into the town I was working in I lost it, LTE attach failure, or Tracking update failure. I'll see what I can do on the APN side of things. But do you have any information as to why it could get LTE sometimes and then other times the LTE attach failure comes up? At this point I'm likely just gonna get a fi compatible phone (Edit: one that has the auto network switching, the v30 is supported just will only work on T-Mobile towers), but just for learning's sake I'd love to figure this out. I looked at the coverage map for T-Mobile and I appear to be in a good area, and both the shop and the town mentioned above seem to be as well. Its almost as if the phone struggles to switch between towers. (I'm no service expert)

VS996 Functionality on US998 Variant (VoWiFi, HD Calling, HotSpot/Tethering)

Folks,
I know there's a mixed bag of posts among a bunch of threads that cover how to get Verizon VoWiFi/VoLTE and HD calling working with a US998 variant device and I've had success with those elements but in the process, found that Hotspot gets broken.
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM, Hotspot works flawlessly but VoWiFi does not and I've not had any success in getting it too either.
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have VoWiFi working but Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message.
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
I've played with a ton of settings via Shortcut Master, compared all the files in /system/etc/dsts/joan_vzw_170626 and tried "DF Tethering Fix" and a bunch of other random stuff based on bits an pieces I've picked up all over the web but am still coming up short.
Ideally I'd like to get VoWiFi working on a US998 ROM and, just for kicks, tried these steps https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76613814&postcount=391 but it appears there is still some key VZW software missing.
It feels like getting the Hotspot working on the VS996 ROM is perhaps just something like an APN setting away (yes, I've tried adding DUN to the APN's list with no luck) so I'd be happy with either solution.
One thing I haven't tried is just flashing just the VZW modem to US998 to see if that may just bring the VoWiFi pieces across without compromising Hotspot but before I do that, I wanted to pose the question to the knowledgeable folks in these forums in case someone already has an answer or suggestion for me.
Is there anyone out there that's had some luck in this area?
Cheers,
Windza
Like you, I tried the mixed bag of techniques posted across forums to get VoWIFI going on my US998. I have also crawled hidden apps using Shortcut Master. Although there were glimmers of hope, none of the methods gave positive results.
I do have a pair of identical V30's and have thought about doing a side-by-side comparison to see if I can find the difference. One might be the Settings app itself. The bottomline is that I just don't have the time anylong to go down these rabbit holes and my will to battle with LG is attenuating rapidly. I do not need VoWiFi but HotSpot is a must so I am mostly content using the stock US998 Oreo rom.
BTW, if you want unthrottled hotspot bandwidth on Verizon, go into the APN settings on the phone and switch both APN Protocal and APN Roaming Protocol to ipv4. Then switch the ttl from 64 to 65 on any computer or device that will connect to the hotspot.
Windza said:
Folks,
I know there's a mixed bag of posts among a bunch of threads that cover how to get Verizon VoWiFi/VoLTE and HD calling working with a US998 variant device and I've had success with those elements but in the process, found that Hotspot gets broken.
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM, Hotspot works flawlessly but VoWiFi does not and I've not had any success in getting it too either.
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have VoWiFi working but Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message.
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
I've played with a ton of settings via Shortcut Master, compared all the files in /system/etc/dsts/joan_vzw_170626 and tried "DF Tethering Fix" and a bunch of other random stuff based on bits an pieces I've picked up all over the web but am still coming up short.
Ideally I'd like to get VoWiFi working on a US998 ROM and, just for kicks, tried these steps https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76613814&postcount=391 but it appears there is still some key VZW software missing.
It feels like getting the Hotspot working on the VS996 ROM is perhaps just something like an APN setting away (yes, I've tried adding DUN to the APN's list with no luck) so I'd be happy with either solution.
One thing I haven't tried is just flashing just the VZW modem to US998 to see if that may just bring the VoWiFi pieces across without compromising Hotspot but before I do that, I wanted to pose the question to the knowledgeable folks in these forums in case someone already has an answer or suggestion for me.
Is there anyone out there that's had some luck in this area?
Cheers,
Windza
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Thanks for the response... glad to know I'm not alone on this.
In fact, I lol'd at you having identical V30's and considering looking at them side by side.
I happen to have 3 identical LS998 variants (1 with shattered screen, 1 with US998 ROM and 1 with VS996 ROM) and was sitting at the dining table yesterday doing exactly that with the 2 good phones... trolling through Shortcut Master/IMS/APN/PDN etc.
As you said, glimmers of hope but no positive results.
I found myself frustrated at my own lack of knowledge and experience with cell networks and then even really finding anything solid on the internet.
It seems like there's almost a black hole or void out there on the nitty gritty of cell network setups (perhaps it's unique per provider and considered proprietary/IP?).
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
Can someone at least tell me what APN types like ia, ims, dun etc. mean specifically or point me in the direction of a resource that might?
Thanks for the response... glad to know I'm not alone on this.
In fact, I lol'd at you having identical V30's and considering looking at them side by side.
I happen to have 3 identical LS998 variants (1 with shattered screen, 1 with US998 ROM and 1 with VS996 ROM) and was sitting at the dining table yesterday doing exactly that with the 2 good phones... trolling through Shortcut Master/IMS/APN/PDN etc.
As you said, glimmers of hope but no positive results.
I found myself frustrated at my own lack of knowledge and experience with cell networks and then even really finding anything solid on the internet.
It seems like there's almost a black hole or void out there on the nitty gritty of cell network setups (perhaps it's unique per provider and considered proprietary/IP?).
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
Can someone at least tell me what APN types like ia, ims, dun etc. mean specifically or point me in the direction of a resource that might?
Windza said:
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
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Aaaaaand... the result is unsurprising. I know some folks were reporting anecdotal improvements after flashing the VS996 modem into US998 but I'm not seeing notable difference from where I was already at.
I was on US998 20e and flashed modem from VS996 20f but no luck... last resort is to try US998 20h and VS996 20k but I'm not holding my breath.
No matter what I override in the background, the consistent element on the US998 is the two switches in the attached s/shot are grayed out and unable to be toggled on (even though their equivalents in the background are on).
As soon as I flash a VS996 ROM, these switches can be toggled to get things working.
I will be of no help... But I'm definitely interested in this!
I've got US998 running vs996 stock pie with full functionality of Hotspot and vowifi. One thing I noticed when debloating my install was that removal of the Verizon phone app would cause the phone to not boot, so my guess is their app is one of the pieces of the vowifi puzzle.
Has anyone tried running Verizon phone app on a US998 Rom?
I am in the exact same boat.
Currently running US998 on Verizon VS996 only for hotspot. I also tried to get VoLTE running via https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/wtf-lg-v30-t3790500/post76613814#post76613814 but no luck. Was able to get the Verizon app to run but it didn't help with VoLTE. Possibly because I'm on a corporate plan so I don't have many options available in the app. Also missing RCS messaging features which I had on VS996 ROM, but maybe I need to try the "beta versions of Messenger" trick.
I also tried copying the HotspotProvision.apk and odex from US998 to VS996 rom but no luck there either.
Yet-another-'I want this'-reply. I use my phone for, in order, Tethering, maps, and phonecalls, and it's frustrating that using Verizon as a carrier means we have all sorts of compromises when it comes to functionality because they are supporting ancient network tech.
I'm just worried that in a world of folding screens and bull**** edge displays, actual good devices like the V30 are going to fall apart in the dev community. If we don't have a fix soon, I'm expecting never to get one.
Windza said:
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM,
* (Unauthorized Verizon) Hotspot works flawlessly
* but (Verizon) VoWiFi does not
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have
* (Verizon) VoWiFi working but
* Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message. (Because you're not paying for that Verizon hotspot service)
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
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See my parenthetical comments.
That answers your question. Your hotspot would work on Verizon firmware IF you paid for it, like they want. There's no mystery.
Whereas on US998, Verizon has no control over how you use your data. You get "free" tethering feature on US998 firmware.
But on US998 Verizon still has control over whether to grant Wi-Fi calling to devices on their network, and they decline to do that. Control freak Verizon makes you be on Verizon firmware for Wi-Fi calling to "encourage" you to buy their hardware (even though you didn't).
T-Mobile doesn't care and grants Wi-Fi calling on US998. So, it's not "Wi-Fi calling" issue -- it's a Verizon issue.
The difference between the two "ROMs" is one is based on firmware certified by Verizon and the other is not.
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ellomdian said:
Yet-another-'I want this'-reply. I use my phone for, in order, Tethering, maps, and phonecalls, and it's frustrating that using Verizon as a carrier means we have all sorts of compromises when it comes to functionality because they are supporting ancient network tech.
I'm just worried that in a world of folding screens and bull**** edge displays, actual good devices like the V30 are going to fall apart in the dev community. If we don't have a fix soon, I'm expecting never to get one.
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Get a V30. Heck, get a V30+! You can have tethering, maps, phone calls on US998. What you cannot have on US998 firmware with Verizon SIM card is Verizon Wi-Fi calling. T-mobile allows it, but Verizon doesn't. But you still get phone calls.
My sister and brother-in-law are both on US998 firmware (former LS998 V30+) on Verizon and they both get VoLTE.
$110 for mint US998 V30+.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-us998-us99830a000704-kdz-t3952256
ChazzMatt said:
That answers your question. Your hotspot would work on Verizon firmware IF you paid for it, like they want. There's no mystery.
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ChazzMatt, here's the kicker - that seemed like an obvious and logical argument to me initially as well BUT I had issues initially with not having any of the good stuff on VS996 and ended up on the phone with Verizon.
They assured me that my phone was provisioned for everything but my SIM card was very old (true) and potentially the issue... something about it being issued well prior to VoWiFi being rolled out (likely also true based on quick Google search).
This seemed like a real stretch to me but I ended up at the store with a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked); I end up with a new SIM but still have nothing working and he is out of answers as well.
I came back home and started massaging settings via Shortcut Master and eventually got VoWiFi working but came up short on Hotspot which is where my OP came in.
My OP skipped this detail because I thought it was fluff but, to circle back, there may be something relevant in that for the local Rep to have to game their system might suggest Verizon has a technical/provisioning issue with my device.
It wouldn't be the first time I've had a major Telco screw my services up... (I once ended up with a $12K bill in Australia due to Telstra setting my 3G phone up for old school 2G data access which was billed at ludicrous rates - ended up resolved amicably tho I had a major initial flipout).
Windza said:
ChazzMatt, here's the kicker - that seemed like an obvious and logical argument to me initially as well BUT I had issues initially with not having any of the good stuff on VS996 and ended up on the phone with Verizon.
They assured me that my phone was provisioned for everything but my SIM card was very old (true) and potentially the issue... something about it being issued well prior to VoWiFi being rolled out (likely also true based on quick Google search).
This seemed like a real stretch to me but I ended up at the store with a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked); I end up with a new SIM but still have nothing working and he is out of answers as well.
I came back home and started massaging settings via Shortcut Master and eventually got VoWiFi working but came up short on Hotspot which is where my OP came in.
My OP skipped this detail because I thought it was fluff but, to circle back, there may be something relevant in that for the local Rep to have to game their system might suggest Verizon has a technical/provisioning issue with my device.
It wouldn't be the first time I've had a major Telco screw my services up... (I once ended up with a $12K bill in Australia due to Telstra setting my 3G phone up for old school 2G data access which was billed at ludicrous rates - ended up resolved amicably tho I had a major initial flipout).
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To add to the confusion -- this is from the Verizon Pie TWRP-flashable zip ROM thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...lg-v30-joan-vs996-verizon-30c-t3974139/page13
Teldin2 said:
Has anyone had any luck provisioning the hotspot on the stock image? I've tried several methods with no success.
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PerCompLLC said:
No issues at all with me. I use it every day! Worked out of the box.
Sent from my VS996 using Tapatalk
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EDIT: Never mind. He has unlimited data.
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Windza said:
a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked)
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My brother-in-law (who could sell snow to Eskimos) and my sister recently switched from AT&T to Verizon with two former LS998 V30+ converted to US998 V30+. NOT bootloader unlocked. Just stock phones.
Yes, "US998" with Oreo 20h are carrier unlocked phones (with CDMA and LTE band 13), but I know you need an already-activated Verizon SIM card. Verizon is NOT going to activate a SIM card on former Sprint LS998 V30+...
But my brother-in-law found a store rep willing to help. The guy said, "They will tell you this phone doesn't work on Verizon, but it does." He activated two SIM cards for them, let them go drive to their neighborhood and test them out. They are switching to Verizon because the upscale neighborhood they are moving to has an AT&T black hole. Only Verizon works there. (Even AT&T microcell doesn't work well, because of size of the house and thick walls. And they don't get AT&T Wi-Fi calling because it's not AT&T branded hardware.)
Any great Verizon signal. Not sure if the rep provisioned VoLTE or not, as I haven't touched the phones recently. But they are very happy. The guy told them, "If something happens and you need help, come to the store and ONLY SEE ME. Don't tell anyone else what I've done."
Nice to find someone like that, but my brother-in-law is GREAT about finding people like that. He's a very successful salesperson and knows how to make people WANT to help him. What's really scary is when he turns his skill set against other salespeople. You should see him when shopping for a car.
"What color are you looking for, sir?"
"Doesn't matter, it's just all sheet metal to me. Color isn't important."
When he really has his eye on that cobalt blue SUV or whatever...
"Oh, that one? I guess I could drive that if you've got nothing better."
When he gets finished, it's like they've been hypnotized.
He walks out with exactly what he came to get, and at fantastic price.

UICC unlocked on other carriers.

So I finally unlocked my LG V30+ on sprint, (LS998)
I'm curious about anyone who has UICC unlocked the phone on a sprint network, then switched over to tmo, cricket, vz, simple mobile, metro or some other company:
-Did everything work ok, data and voice?
-Did you have any issues? if so what where they
-other than popping the sprint sim out and the other sim in, did you have to do anything else to get it to work, ie: new apn?
I ask because doing a Google search and landing on sprint forums it seems that some have switched to tmo and had issues..... Most common ones seem to be either they have data and no voice, or they have voice but no data.
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So I finally unlocked my LG V30+ on sprint, (LS998)
I'm curious about anyone who has UICC unlocked the phone on a sprint network, then switched over to tmo, cricket, vz, simple mobile, metro or some other company:
-Did everything work ok, data and voice?
-Did you have any issues? if so what where they
-other than popping the sprint sim out and the other sim in, did you have to do anything else to get it to work, ie: new apn?
I ask because doing a Google search and landing on sprint forums it seems that some have switched to tmo and had issues..... Most common ones seem to be either they have data and no voice, or they have voice but no data.
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Well I didn't uicc unlock but I did flash us998 kdz on my ls998 and it sim unlocked it fine. I was using it on T-Mobile.
Everything worked as intended, volte and calls over WiFi worked fine. No issues at all. The only thing this phone needs is proper Android 10 support. WiFi on Android 10 for the v30 is a hit and miss. There are fixes available but that was too much of a hassle for me personally. Went back to stock.
easyrider77 said:
So I finally unlocked my LG V30+ on sprint, (LS998)
I'm curious about anyone who has UICC unlocked the phone on a sprint network, then switched over to tmo, cricket, vz, simple mobile, metro or some other company:
-Did everything work ok, data and voice?
-Did you have any issues? if so what where they
-other than popping the sprint sim out and the other sim in, did you have to do anything else to get it to work, ie: new apn?
I ask because doing a Google search and landing on sprint forums it seems that some have switched to tmo and had issues..... Most common ones seem to be either they have data and no voice, or they have voice but no data.
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That's because the Sprint firmware does not have all the bands necessary for other carriers. It's still a Sprint phone. Whereas if you convert it to US998 it would be more compatible with other carriers. Like stated above, on T-Mobile you get VoLTE, Wi-Fi calling, etc. Or use the "US998" on AT&T. Once converted it takes on the bands/modems of the firmware you are converting to.
I know you've already carrier unlocked your phone, but the easiest, most common way to carrier unlock LS998 is to convert to Open Market US998 or some North American carrier unlocked firmware. Which also gives you the advantage of better LTE bands. See attached screenshots.
No one who is not a Sprint customer leaves LS998 on Sprint firmware. At least people who have access to information on XDA. See Frankenstein instructions.
Like the other said.... make it a US998 phone and you can go wherever you want. I had my converted US998, which I then converted to VS996. This was used on Verizon and now on TotalWireless with no issues. I'm thinking of going back to US998 since I don't have to have VZ stuff on it anymore.
Make the jump and you'll be happy. US998 is a great place to be (except on VZ, where VS996 makes sense).
Yeah, if I end up switching carriers, I'll be kdz flashing the us988.
I left a lengthy thread on going back to sprint via the ls988 and frankenstien way, but I was wondering since you have to be rooted and bl unlocked, the phone won't register correctly back on sprint if the bl is unlocked, so in that case what do you do?
If it's not possible to do, then it's pretty much once you leave sprint it's a done deal, no going back.
Here is the thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/simple-question-us988-to-lg988-t4096609
Read the thread. Believe ChazzMatt's statements, as he is the expert on this phone and process. In the very thread you quoted, he says:
"Lots of Sprint people who have temporarily converted to US998, unlocked bootoader, then flash back to Sprint firmware -- keeping TWRP and root. One of our main DEVs is a Sprint customer. So your worries are totally baseless.
Why do you think we have TWRP flashable zips Sprint firmware to flash back to, if the phone couldn't be used?"
Bottom line, you'll be fine. The trick is you need to be already activated on Sprint. Verizon does the same BS... they won't let you activate on a non-VZ phone just because they're idiots. There is no reason not to do this, as you certainly can work with these phones. As I (and many others) have proven time and time again. I'm guessing Sprint may do the same thing...
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So I finally unlocked my LG V30+ on sprint, (LS998)
I'm curious about anyone who has UICC unlocked the phone on a sprint network, then switched over to tmo, cricket, vz, simple mobile, metro or some other company:
-Did everything work ok, data and voice?
-Did you have any issues? if so what where they
-other than popping the sprint sim out and the other sim in, did you have to do anything else to get it to work, ie: new apn?
I ask because doing a Google search and landing on sprint forums it seems that some have switched to tmo and had issues..... Most common ones seem to be either they have data and no voice, or they have voice but no data.
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I just purchased a Lg V30 H932 64GB (T-Mobile + GSM Unlocked) off ebay a few days ago. I put my At&T sim in it and set my APN settings to AT&T's (NXTGENPHONE) which is what I had on my old phone (LG K20 Metro unlocked).
I can call, text, and get online but the mobile hotspot isn't working. It allows other devices to connect but says " NO INTERNET".
Its very frustrating because I rely on my hotspot to use my pc and other devices. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I just purchased a Lg V30 H932 64GB (T-Mobile + GSM Unlocked) off ebay a few days ago. I put my At&T sim in it and set my APN settings to AT&T's (NXTGENPHONE) which is what I had on my old phone (LG K20 Metro unlocked).
I can call, text, and get online but the mobile hotspot isn't working. It allows other devices to connect but says " NO INTERNET".
Its very frustrating because I rely on my hotspot to use my pc and other devices. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Probably should have bought Open Market US998. Easily root and use hotspot.
Maybe if you root the T-Mobile H932 you can get hotspot working, but T-Mobile H932 is more difficult to root than the other variants. You also can NOT cross flash T-Mobile H932 to any other variant.
See post #1:
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
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I just purchased a Lg V30 H932 64GB (T-Mobile + GSM Unlocked) off ebay a few days ago. I put my At&T sim in it and set my APN settings to AT&T's (NXTGENPHONE) which is what I had on my old phone (LG K20 Metro unlocked).
I can call, text, and get online but the mobile hotspot isn't working. It allows other devices to connect but says " NO INTERNET".
Its very frustrating because I rely on my hotspot to use my pc and other devices. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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It is true that H932 is the most locked down V30 model, and not one to recommend, except for users who need LTE band 71 (which only this model supports).
BUT I had no problems using HotSpot with my H932 on Red Pocket GSMA (AT&T MVNO). I just set it up under Tethering and it worked no problem. Of course the APN has to be correct for it, and I cannot tell you what that should be for native AT&T.
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Probably should have bought Open Market US998. Easily root and use hotspot.
Maybe if you root the T-Mobile H932 you can get hotspot working, but T-Mobile H932 is more difficult to root than the other variants. You also can NOT cross flash T-Mobile H932 to any other variant.
See post #1:
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
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I wish I had known more about this before I bought it. I just assumed everything would work right since it was unlocked and compatible with AT&T. I never had any issues with my Metro phone that was unlocked.
I've never rooted or flashed a LG phone before and am kinda worried about messing it up. I've used Odin with my S5 and flashed it but never rooted it. I thought setting the apn settings to what I had them as on my previous phone would work but it doesn't. I searched the network operators and it only showed "RAT : ATT " and " RAT : WCDMA".
network mode only listed these options:
Automatic LTE/3G/2G
Automatic 3G/2G
LTE/3G
2G Only
The network mode I was using (on previous phone) was GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto but I dont have that option now..
Thanks for the help!
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Probably should have bought Open Market US998. Easily root and use hotspot.
Maybe if you root the T-Mobile H932 you can get hotspot working, but T-Mobile H932 is more difficult to root than the other variants. You also can NOT cross flash T-Mobile H932 to any other variant.
See post #1:
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
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It is true that H932 is the most locked down V30 model, and not one to recommend, except for users who need LTE band 71 (which only this model supports).
BUT I had no problems using HotSpot with my H932 on Red Pocket GSMA (AT&T MVNO). I just set it up under Tethering and it worked no problem. Of course the APN has to be correct for it, and I cannot tell you what that should be for native AT&T.
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I actually fixed it and it was quite simple..I went to my apn settings. I used the NXTGENPHONE settings except I added "dun", to the end of my apn type!
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I actually fixed it and it was quite simple..I went to my apn settings. I used the NXTGENPHONE settings except I added "dun", to the end of my apn type!
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Good, makes sense. As much as I agree about the limitations of H932, inability to tether isn't one of them!
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I actually fixed it and it was quite simple..I went to my apn settings. I used the NXTGENPHONE settings except I added "dun", to the end of my apn type!
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Glad you got it working. The reason I suggested root is because there are some carriers who won't let you have hotspot without paying extra for the privilege of using your own phone to its full extent. Rooting solves that.
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Glad you got it working. The reason I suggested root is because there are some carriers who won't let you have hotspot without paying extra for the privilege of using your own phone to its full extent. Rooting solves that.
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Fair enough: Adding "dun" to the APN only works when tethering is permitted by the carrier -- and it allows the carrier to meter the tethered data, and throttle it if they want. Personally I haven't had a traditional carrier in years, and the MVNO I use isn't the shenanigans type.
But do we really need root to work around that? I recall an old all trick from my Nexus 5 days where we would set tether_dun_required=0 in the global settings database using ADB, with no root required. I haven't had to do this on V30, again because I have avoided those carriers. But I would guess it still works.
I am asking, since surely you would know
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Fair enough: Adding "dun" to the APN only works when tethering is permitted by the carrier -- and it allows the carrier to meter the tethered data, and throttle it if they want. Personally I haven't had a traditional carrier in years, and the MVNO I use isn't the shenanigans type.
But do we really need root to work around that? I recall an old all trick from my Nexus 5 days where we would set tether_dun_required=0 in the global settings database using ADB, with no root required. I haven't had to do this on V30, again because I have avoided those carriers. But I would guess it still works.
I am asking, since surely you would know
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Verizon is a carrier who won't allow you to "tether" without paying a separate hotspot fee per month. For those people still on legacy (true) unlimited data, many use root to get around that.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/mobile-hotspot-faqs/
Note: The $75 Prepaid Unlimited* plan also includes Mobile Hotspot with speeds up to 600 kbps. Mobile Hotspot isn't available on the $70 Prepaid Unlimited and $80 Prepaid Unlimited* plans.
If you don't have one of the plans listed above, you may be able to add Mobile Hotspot to your line. You'll be charged monthly to have the Mobile Hotspot feature, in addition to data usage charges.
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ChazzMatt said:
Verizon is a carrier who won't allow you to "tether" without paying a separate hotspot fee per month. For those people still on legacy (true) unlimited data, many use root to get around that.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/mobile-hotspot-faqs/
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Absolutely. We know that the traditional carriers like to limit or throttle tethering. I think T-Mobile does too. The dun feature exists to help them control that, by classifying tethered data separately from other data.
What I meant was do we really need root to work around that on V30? Doesn't the old trick I mentioned (or maybe a newer one) work on V30?
Edit: I may actually test that to find out. Dun in the APN shouldn't be needed in 2020.
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Absolutely. We know that the traditional carriers like to limit or throttle tethering. I think T-Mobile does too. The dun feature exists to help them control that, by classifying tethered data separately from other data.
What I meant was do we really need root to work around that on V30? Doesn't the old trick I mentioned (or maybe a newer one) work on V30?
Edit: I may actually test that to find out. Dun in the APN shouldn't be needed in 2020.
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I wasn't aware of any trick other than rooting because I've always had rooted phones...
In all my years of Androids I've really only needed hotspot one time -- when I was in Brazil. But I was rooted and it worked great.
Yes, I've tested a couple of other times, but again I'm rooted.

My V30 Dilemma

Hi all,
Thanks to all you guys who make these devices perform far and beyond, and then hold a dumbass's hand such as myself and walk me through the steps to do the same.
I have a V30 I am working on. I had a previous one but my little boy slobbered into the charge port as well as dropped it 1000 times and the touch screen finally quit. So I am working on a new one while I use the old Turbo back up.
Here is my dilemma.
I have a grandfathered VZ unlimited data plan that I pay 153 bucks a month for. Depending on the month, I may exceed 30-50 GB on my Hotspot, but it really doesn't happen very often.
With my previous V30, I was running US998. Native tethering with 998 works great but of course there is no Volte, and from what I understand I am going to have to be on VS996 by December because of the network changes. The only problem is on VS996, my hotspot doesn't pass VZ's subscription check.
Has anyone out there gotten Hotspot capabilities on VS996? I have tried every trick I can find on the forums to get it to work, to no avail. I think my situation is growing ever more unique because most people are on a newer plan and don't have to worry about the sub check. I am not going to pay VZ another 30 bucks a month for the sub, (and I have never had to thanks to you all).
So my options are:
Keep my current plan and use PDA net for computer internet and throw my sim in my old Turbo when I need to Roku, etc.
Keep my current plan and roll with US998 until Dec and then maybe try a different phone with native tethering capabilities?
Change my VZ plan. I really don't think I need the true unlimited plan anymore. I would solve my V30 hotspot issues as well as save myself about 100 dollars a month.... But dammit it's kind of the principle of the matter. I like having the ENDLESS data capacity at my disposal!
Thank you for any and all suggestions!
I understand your dilemma. Couple of choices I can think of:
1) Switch to an MVNO such as Red Pocket that will give you what you need at a better price, and which works with US998. If you really need Unlimited everything, there is the following for $60/month using either AT&T (GSMA), Sprint (CDMAS) or Verizon (CDMA) as your carrier. (These are just their names for the networks, since they're not allowed to name the carriers.)
https://www.redpocket.com/plans/add/M060
I use them (although much more meager $60/year plan) with US998 on GSMA, which works great, not throttled, tethering, VoLTE. Their plans include WiFi Calling too, but I haven't been able to make it work on GSMA unless I flash a H931 ROM. There may be a way, I'm still experimenting.
2) Get a much slimmer plan that includes only what you need on the phone, such as 3GB at $19/month or $8GB at $30/month, available on the same networks. Links below:
https://www.redpocket.com/plans/add/M020
https://www.redpocket.com/plans/add/M030
Then complement that with a separate Data Only plan for your Turbo, such as $40 for 20GB/month, although only available on GSMA (AT&T).
https://www.redpocket.com/gsma/add/b040
3) Stay on Verizon with the above plans using CDMA as network. They give you VoLTE and WiFi Calling, as long as your phone supports it, but require a VZ IMEI to activate. I would *expect* that you can get at least VoLTE and tethering working on US998, although I haven't tried on VZ. But they ARE officially included in the plans.
4) Deep dive into IMS settings on US998 (through the hidden menu) and see if you can't get VoLTE working. It doesn't show up in the Network menu, but you can enable an icon in the statusbar to confirm when it's working. See my post linked below (and the following discussion) for what I did to make it work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...tock-firmware-los-based-t4138223/post83155603
5) Get a VS996 (or Frankenstein a US998) for your phone needs and complement it with a separate Data Only plan in your Turbo instead of tethering.
In other words various combinations I could think of. The only thing I cannot tell you is if GSMA (AT&T, which I have) has good reception in your home. And if CDMA (Red Pocket on VZ) provides the same speed you're used to on VZ postpaid.
V30 remains an awesome phone for the price, but newer models may be more compatible as the carriers switch over their networks.
For what you're currently paying at VZ, you could buy another V30 every month
You might want to see if the old hack to disable the subscription check works on the VZW rom.
* Open "build.prop" in the system folder.
* Look for or add at the bottom
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
* Reboot and see if you can enable hotspot/tether without a subscription check.
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I have tried the build.prop edit on VS99630b with no luck. I know another user @schwinn8 has had success with this trick on Oreo 20k I believe. It's looking more and more like I'm just going to give up my plan for a cheaper one. My wife and I are saving for a house and every little bit would help! Unfortunately where I live (rural Montana) Verizon is far and wide the best carrier to go through due to their coverage so looks like I'm stuck with them for now!
I may try going back to 20k and see if the build prop trick works on it because I'll hate myself if I don't at least try
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Unfortunately where I live (rural Montana) Verizon is far and wide the best carrier to go through due to their coverage so looks like I'm stuck with them for now!
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You're NOT stuck with Verizon as far as your plan, even if they have the only network where you live. One of the points I was trying to make is that most of Red Pocket's plans are available on any of the four big networks, including Verizon.
So you could get a $60 Unlimited Everything plan using the same network you now have. That's $90 saved every month. Or you may be able to save more if you don't need 30-40GB every month, by combining a lower allotment cell plan with a Data Only plan for your WiFi/tethering needs.
If you're willing to lock in a rate for 12 months, there are annual plans which provide further savings. They're often on sale if you have patience to watch them for a while.
Really, I'm not a salesman for these guys, just a user on a low budget. My wife too
As I mentioned, TW is the winner for me - uses VZ towers and is low cost (my wife and I have unlimited calling, and 30GB "fast" data (after that it's like 1x speed or something, so it's technically unlimited, but useless at those speeds). We don't use that much, and we pay about $60 for our two lines.
As for the build.prop change, interestingly enough, I tried running hotspot on my wife's phone, and it just worked... I checked her build.prop and she does NOT have the noprovision in there anywhere. As I mentioned in PM, I didn't have it before, and when I tried to use hotspot it originally told me I had to activate that... clearly that is no longer the case. (TW allows tethering now, but they didn't originally).
Like others suggest, I say switch carriers and be happy - you'll be on VZ towers, and save cost. And not have to deal with the liars at VZ (who will likely tell you your V30 can't be used on their network, even though it can). Win-win.
Thanks again for the input. I guess ive never really researched any providers outside verizon but i know for a fact that ATT doesnt work well here but obviously we are talking other carriers that use VZ towers. Will start looking into this...
I agree verizon is a bunch of crooks.
I am now currently using the V30 with Micromods debloated VS996 pie Rom. No hot spot of course but everything is working butter smooth. Its so much faster than the Turbo its laughable but hey, that old girl gave me 5 years of solid service!
Has anyone ever tried the A.I.S ir A.I.X roms ? Where does a guy even download or acquire these? I did some brief searching but couldnt find but a few references to Telegram, which I joined and briefly tried to find where to download either one but I'm fairly tech incompetent and ran out of time... Would A.I.X be worth looking into and where would i find it?
kfa670 said:
I am now currently using the V30 with Micromods debloated VS996 pie Rom. No hot spot of course but everything is working butter smooth. Its so much faster than the Turbo its laughable but hey, that old girl gave me 5 years of solid service!
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I LOVED the 2014 Moto Quark. Droid Turbo was the Verizon variant, but I had three of the "international" Moto Maxx (also sold as Moto Turbo) XT1225 which had more LTE bands (including all of AT&T's LTE bands), no CDMA bands, and all had 64GB internal memory. Some of the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254 had 64GB, but most people in 2014 bought the 32GB version from Verizon.
Used it daily for 3 years before I got the V30. I researched for a year to find a worthy replacement and the 2017 V30 (especially the 128GB V30+) seemed to be the spiritual successor to the Moto Quark (Droid Turbo, Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo). The V30 Joan series is something the Motorola of 2014 would have made if they hadn't been sold to and cannibalized by Lenovo.
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Thanks again for the input. I guess ive never really researched any providers outside verizon but i know for a fact that ATT doesnt work well here but obviously we are talking other carriers that use VZ towers. Will start looking into this...
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Right. You would still be using Verizon while not directly paying Verizon.
MVNOs (Mobile Virtual Network Operators) use the major carriers towers but offer their own branded service. They are paying AT&T, Verizon, T-mobile (and now Sprint) wholesale prices, then packaging it for you. Some are carrier specific -- like T-mobile or Verizon only. Others use all 4 (now 3) major carriers.
All are not alike.
Some MVNOs try to hide the underlying carrier, as if it makes no difference (but it does, due to geographical differences). 2 years ago my mother's Net10 flip phone stopped receiving texts. (Don't freak, I know it was her phone not the service.) But rather than replace the phone, their customer service script entailed sending a new SIM card. OK... But I told them, it HAS to be an AT&T tower SIM card like she has now. They sent a T-mobile SIM card. She can't get T-mobile where she lives. Then, their replacement to the replacement never arrived. Tired of Net10's crap, I gave her one of my spare US998 V30 phones, and put her on my AT&T Prepaid account. (Lot less money than "regular" AT&T postpaid, if you already own your phone. It seems to be a well-kept secret. Just stay away from AT&T Prepaid "unlimited" plans. Explained below.)
My point, which I almost buried, is there are good MVNOs and bad ones. Some of the bad ones don't tell you clearly WHICH major carrier you are using. The good ones do and let you choose. Some that use Verizon towers may make you use Verizon branded phones (with Verizon IMEI) if you get their "Verizon" SIM card. Others don't care and will let you use Verizon as long as your phone is compatible. Like say, a Sprint LS998 V30+ Frankensteined to a US998. Or LS998 V30+ Frankensteined to a VS996.
If you have a native VS996 V30, then that requisite won't matter. But many Verizon customers bought LS998 V30+ (128GB) and converted them to US998 or bought them off eBay already converted to US998. (Those will never have Verizon-eligible IMEI.) BUT with an already-activated Verizon SIM card -- like switched over from Droid Turbo -- until now that didn't matter. :silly: (I am not sure whether your current phone is native VS996 or one just flashed to VS996 firmware?)
Since Verizon 3G CDMA is shutting down, those people are facing a choice by end of 2020:
* Run stock VS996 firmware on their non-Verizon branded V30 to get VoLTE with their Verizon SIM cards.
OR
* go to an "Verizon" MVNO which will still give them both Verizon service and VoLTE, especially if the "Verizon" MVNO allows non-Verizon branded phones.
OR
* go to another major carrier or carrier MVNO if geography allows.
Total Wireless recommended by @schwinn8 for example allows carrier unlocked phones for their Verizon SIM card and some plans have hotspot.
REVIEW (05/2020)- Total Wireless Review: Cheap Cell Phone Plans on Verizon’s Network
https://clark.com/technology/total-wireless-review/
Plans and Pricing
Total Wireless recently added an “unlimited plan” that provides 25GB of high-speed data for $50 a month.
This budget carrier also offers a number of single and family data plans. I chose the unlimited talk, text and 5GB of data plan that costs $35 a month or $33.20 with auto-refill, plus taxes and fees.
One of the volunteers at Team Clark’s Consumer Action Center made the switch from Verizon to Total Wireless. He told me that he lowered his bill for two lines of service from $130 to $60 a month — an annual savings of $840!
For those who use Wi-Fi at home and work, the 5GB data plan is probably the best choice. Customers can also buy 5GB of add-on data for $10 that rolls over from month-to-month.
All Total Wireless plans include unlimited talk and text, and some plans now support mobile hotspot.
Total Wireless supports Wi-Fi Calling on some devices, but my carrier unlocked Moto G6 didn’t allow me to test this feature.
However, I was able to try its Enhanced 4G LTE Mode, which appears to be another name for VoLTE (Voice over LTE). Once enabled, I could talk on the phone and use data at the same time.
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RedPocket recommended by @TheDannemand is an excellent MVNO for AT&T (using the GSMA SIM card. The A means AT&T). Great "annual plans" for Red Pocket -- for ALL MAJOR CARRIERS -- on ebay. See this note about VoLTE on Red Pocket "Verizon". ("CDMA SIM" is their code word for "Verizon".)
Q: Is this change limited to Red Pocket Mobile?
A: No. This change effects all MVNOs using the same underlying carrier as the Red Pocket CDMA network (i.e. Verizon).
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So, seems like this will affect all "Verizon" MVNOs?
AT&T Prepaid (sold and serviced in AT&T stores) is another excellent source for AT&T. The only caveat is their "unlimited" plans are capped to lower LTE speeds, while their 8GB plan and lower is completely uncapped (70 - 90 Mbps).
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Has anyone ever tried the A.I.S ir A.I.X roms ? Where does a guy even download or acquire these? I did some brief searching but couldnt find but a few references to Telegram, which I joined and briefly tried to find where to download either one but I'm fairly tech incompetent and ran out of time... Would A.I.X be worth looking into and where would i find it?
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A.I.X. -- based on stock LG V30 Pie -- is found on the V30 Telegram thread. It's like stock on steroids. A.I.S. was the Oreo based version. You have to ask for permission to access the specific A.I.X. thread, maintained by the dev. You have to follow the installation instructions completely. To be honest, it's not for beginners. For instance, he replaces Google Play app with a modified one and as a result you can't accept Google Play app updates until he makes a newer one. If you have any problems with the ROM, don't complain. Make sure you've read all the documentation. If you complain, the dev will ban you.
A few things I would add about Red Pocket:
1) They are not ALLOWED to name the carriers whose networks they use. I presume because the carriers consider their brands so precious, they don't want MVNOs to use them in their marketing (as in "we provide service on the Verizon network").
2) While they are indeed pretty great on AT&T (GSMA) I think their T-Mobile service (GSMT) is an even better choice for US998 users as the phone fully and easily supports VoLTE and VoWiFi (WiFi Calling) on the TMO network, with proper Network settings menus and all. On GSMA (and I presume other networks too) you have to rely on the hidden menu to configure it. Unfortunately T-Mobile has become more protective of their service and is currently not available on all Red Pocket plans.
3) I can confirm what ChazzMatt posted that you need a Verizon IMEI to activate Verizon service on Red Pocket (CDMA). I tried a few months ago to switch my plan from GSMA to CDMA using my US998 (converted from LS998) but the system refused based on the IMEI. The agent quietly confirmed that I would need to activate on a VZW phone, then move the SIM over. I wish I had made that switch last year before before their policy changed, but back then I had H932, which doesn't support CDMA. While AT&T has decent reception in my home (better than TMO) it is not as good as it was two years ago. I would expect VZW to be better.
4) When I first got my US998 early this year, I checked its IMEI on their website, and it was compatible with GSMA (AT&T), GSMT (TMO) and CDMAS (Sprint). The Device Compatibility Check is no longer on their website, so I cannot confirm it now.
5) You can switch between the different carriers available on your plan, as long as your phone supports it. You do this through their Customer Service Chat, preferably on the last day of the plan month, since you lose the remaining days of that month. You need an unused SIM card for the carrier you want to switch to. If you don't have one from a starter kit, you'll have to order it from their website ($5 free shipping). Note that old SIM cards can NOT be re-used, so if you need to switch back, make sure you have an unused SIM card.
6) VoLTE is officially provided on all networks. See this. VoWiFi (WiFi Calling) is officially provided on GSMA (AT&T), GSMT (TMO) and CDMAS (Sprint), but NOT CDMA (Verizon). See this. Of course it has to be supported by the phone on the chosen network, but Red Pocket does NOT restrict access to these features. You simply ask them to enable them on your account. GSMA (AT&T) VoLTE works on my US998, but NOT on my wife's H932 (at least not easily). I have not been able to make VoWiFi work on US998 ROM, but it DOES work when flashing H931 ROM on the same phone. Others have confirmed that both VoLTE and VoWiFi work with US998 on TMO. I would definitely try a switch to CDMA (Red Pocket Verizon) with my US998 if I had a VZW IMEI on which to activate. It might work right out of the box (again, since Red Pocket DOES provide it). Otherwise I have enough experience now messing with IMS settings that I think I might be able to make it work.
7) Tethering with US998 works on GSMA by adding "dun" to the APN type. Others have confirmed that it works on genuine Verizon, and we can assume it will work on CDMA, CDMAS and GSMT as well.
8) One benefit I haven't mentioned in previous posts is that international calling is not only supported but FREE on all their plans: As long as you have minutes, you can call most of the world on those minutes at no extra cost. OTOH, sending international SMS has always been unreliable, for some reason.
9) Starting earlier this year Red Pocket began pushing iPhone sales, and downplaying BYOD, which I find annoying. I wonder if the carriers are squeezing them and they're looking for alternate revenue sources.
Alright, there's my Red Pocket write-up. All I can think of
I am on Verizon 's unlimited data plan with my v30 vs996 Frankensteined to us998. So, I will have to permanently go to the vs996 at the end of the year, as you are. Right now we (my wife and I) use her phone as our hot spot paid thru Verizon. We do not have a router for internet services. We pay Verizon for that service. When we first subscribed to it, it was $10.00 a month (not sure what it is now). We also use my phone as a Hotspot for free until the end of the year. I will then check to see if I can subscribe my phone as a hot spot, too, hopefully for the $10.0 per month.
My unlimited plan is thru a business/government plan, though. I don't know if that is why we pay only $10/month or not.
It would be nice if we could keep it the way it is now, but it doesn't appear so.
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I am on Verizon 's unlimited data plan with my v30 vs996 Frankensteined to us998. So, I will have to permanently go to the vs996 at the end of the year, as you are. Right now we (my wife and I) use her phone as our hot spot paid thru Verizon. We do not have a router for internet services. We pay Verizon for that service. When we first subscribed to it, it was $10.00 a month (not sure what it is now). We also use my phone as a Hotspot for free until the end of the year. I will then check to see if I can subscribe my phone as a hot spot, too, hopefully for the $10.0 per month.
My unlimited plan is thru a business/government plan, though. I don't know if that is why we pay only $10/month or not.
It would be nice if we could keep it the way it is now, but it doesn't appear so.
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If you have "genuine" Verizon with official hotspot, couldn't you just use the VS996 ROM and stay that way? It should give you VoLTE, WiFi Calling (I presume), and official hotspot. Something I am missing here?
Yes, I guess I could. But, it does not give me the hot spot at no cost. There is a charge for using the hot spot. ($10.00 last I looked). My wife's phone is an iPhone. Her phone does have the official Hotspot from Verizon at a cost of $10.00 per month. I have not checked the pricing, etc., in a couple of years, but my options at the time were:
1. get my internet thru another carrier at a cost, using a router (I originally had internet thru Qwest-, but, had problems with them and their support, which upset me - - another story, so discontinued them and went totally with Verizon).
2. get Verizon's hot spot device at a cost of $40 per month + a charge for the device itself ($200.00 + it seems?).
3. Use either my phone and/or my wife's phone as the hot spot. ($10.00 per month per phone).
We went with option 3. Use my wife's phone as a hot spot. That way, she always has the option to take/use it anywhere with her iPhone. I also have that option on us998 at no cost.
There are pros and cons with this option, but it's the least expensive for me right now. I do have 4 lines on my plan and pay over $240. a month for my plan.
I do not know how Verizon will work when it changes. I suppose I can have my phone as a hot spot as along with my wife's for the same charge, but have not checked. Or not. But, then if she travels and I stay home, I would be unable to connect another device to the internet (new computer or iPad).
Again, I am on a business/government plan. Which does have its perks.
Sorry for the long winded post.
I understand now. That bit about $240/month was the missing context :laugh:
Why not get a hotspot device from Verizon for $40/month to provide WiFi for the house, then get MUCH cheaper plans on Total Wireless or Red Pocket for the four phones, including only the allotments you actually need. Unless you need Unlimited Everything on all four lines, you'll still save money AND have the convenience of permanent WiFi.
Edit: Of course for the WiFi you could also get a Data Only plan on Red Pocket or TW, using a US998 or other device for the tethering.
Well, I've been on this plan for a few years now. I'm not real sure how that would work, since we have the government account. I just haven't checked. That would also affect the two other lines (not at home here).
Except for on here, I have never heard of the Red Pocket option.
And, last, but not least, I have to have the OK of my wife :>(=). She already does not trust me and my "hacked" phone. She won't let me touch our brand new computer, yet. I want to "clean" it up. (do away with bloat and advertisements, etc.).
So....
I will check into it, but, everything has to be cleared (for Verizon's part) thru our government contract person.
Anyway, I'm sorry, did not mean to hijack the thread from the OP. I thought he might check the option of using his phone as a hotspot for a minimal charge?
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And, last, but not least, I have to have the OK of my wife :>(=). She already does not trust me and my "hacked" phone.
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Ha!
As you know, your "hacked" phone gives you free hotspot (at least for now).
With my wife, it's when it's something she needs. Then she asks for my help. "I know you can figure it how to do this..."
Until then she pretends my hobbies are a waste of time.
VoLTE should work on Verizon if you have the US998...
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VoLTE should work on Verizon if you have the US998...
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VoLTE works for T-Mobile on US998. No one has been able to do it on Verizon with a US998 V30 that was not originally a Verizon branded VS996. Have you?
ChazzMatt said:
VoLTE works for T-Mobile on US998. No one has been able to do it on Verizon with a US998 V30 that was not originally a Verizon branded VS996. Have you?
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I am on a Verizon MVNO and VoLTE has been working on my US998. I have read others who are direct Verizon customers saying the same thing. Just to be clear, I am talking about a true US998 and not a phone crossflashed to US998...
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I am on a Verizon MVNO and VoLTE has been working on my US998. I have read others who are direct Verizon customers saying the same thing. Just to be clear, I am talking about a true US998 and not a phone crossflashed to US998...
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Interesting.
Yes, direct Verizon customer on native US998 and still on US998 firmware is what we're talking about.

VoLTE support for the LG G5 US Unlocked model (RS988)

With the impending 3G network shutdowns by AT&T (on Feburary 2022) and T-Mobile (already done in January 2021; Sprint network will in Janurary 2022), I'm badly in need of another option. My current LG Nexus 5 (International version) won't enable me to survive these shutdowns, as it lacks the full LTE band support for the United States carriers.
After searching for another phone model with the criteria of removable battery, USB-C and unlockable bootloader, I settled on the following listing for a LG G5 (RS988): https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-G5-RS98...M-Unlocked-Smartphone-8-10-18174/164707426461
The main thing I care about here is whether I can get VoLTE support at all, so that I can continue receiving cellular service beyond 2021. I currently use Cricket, an MVNO which uses AT&T as its network. Unfortunately, AT&T has a whitelist of devices that are allowed to use VoLTE on their network: https://www.att.com/ecms/dam/att/consumer/help/pdf/Devices-Working-on-ATT-Network.pdf. They do list the AT&T version of the LG G5 (H820), but it is bootloader locked. If I cannot use get this phone to work on AT&T, I will have no choice but to switch to T-Mobile or an MVNO using its network, such as MetroPCS. They have already shutdown their main 3G network, and also require VoLTE, but at least they don't have a whitelist that only allows me to use certain devices.
Looking at the custom ROMs, including LineageOS, it seems that none of them have VoLTE support, which is critical for me if I decide to switch to T-Mobile or one of their MNVOs. I could also see if there are any ROMs based on the stock ROM. If all else fails, I can resort to using the stock ROM/OS and then root it. However, this opens up another problem: I cannot tell if there exists a stock Android 8.1 Oreo ROM for the RS988; everything I read so far seems to indicate that I will only get up to Android 7.1 Nougat on this particular model.
As I have accepted an offer for $55 down from $64.99 in the above listing, and cannot decline to buy it, changing to another phone model is no longer an option for me in terms of keeping my cellular service working. Since I will be stuck with this RS988 for the next few years, can someone tell me what is the current situation about VoLTE support, whether for AT&T or T-Mobile, and which ROM I should stick on to gain this support? Losing my cellular service in 2022 is not going to end well for me if it does happen.
Worldblender said:
I will have no choice but to switch to T-Mobile or an MVNO using its network, such as MetroPCS. They have already shutdown their main 3G network, and also require VoLTE, but at least they don't have a whitelist that only allows me to use certain devices.
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DONT use MetroPCS I was with 'em for years but they have changed there policy's not like now. Simplemobile costs the same...
Worldblender said:
Looking at the custom ROMs, including LineageOS, it seems that none of them have VoLTE support, which is critical for me if I decide to switch to T-Mobile or one of their MNVOs. I could also see if there are any ROMs based on the stock ROM.
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I'm up against the same VoLTE wall (had a Blackberry Passport 4 years) and right now only finding VoLTE in Nougat ROM... TBH, I don't want Oreo b/c of that "A-B parition" buisness
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Losing my cellular service in 2022 is not going to end well for me if it does happen.
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I feel ya bro, right now I'm on a "burner" (LG-Stylo, for big screen) due to this concern. Did you ever find a ROM for RS988 with VoLTE?
virginwidow said:
I feel ya bro, right now I'm on a "burner" (LG-Stylo, for big screen) due to this concern. Did you ever find a ROM for RS988 with VoLTE?
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You came in a tad too late; by now, I ended up getting an entirely newer phone, a Motorola Moto G Power (2020) via Google Fi bill credit. Though its battery is not meant to be user-replaceable, at least it has support for VoLTE out of the box, which is what I care about more.

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