Hi all,
I bought the Hidizs Sonata HD USB-C to Jack 3.5mm headphone adapter with integrated DAC.
When I connect the dongle to my Galaxy S20 (Exynos CPU) USB-C port, the device is not detected and audio output goes to phone speakers.
The strange thing is that if I connect in this mode: SONATA HD USB-C PORT to USB-C to USB-A adapter to USB-A to USB-C OTG adapter, the device is recognized by phone and works good.
It seems that the phone detects the device only if OTG (and then usb host mode) forced by hardware adapter (SAMSUNG OTG ADAPTER).
Do you think it is a problem with the S20?
Thank you!
I have the same adapter, and works for me without problems. My phone is S20 ultra 5g european version. The installed Hidizs firmware version is audio priority, software for playing music is poweramp.
serafko said:
I have the same adapter, and works for me without problems. My phone is S20 ultra 5g european version. The installed Hidizs firmware version is audio priority, software for playing music is poweramp.
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thank you serafko! I just tried on my friend phone (Samsung Galaxy S8) and the adapter works (some disconnections but works).
I have the audio priority firmware also.
I think there are some settings on my s20 that blocks the activation of the usb host mode
danielerispoli said:
thank you serafko! I just tried on my friend phone (Samsung Galaxy S8) and the adapter works (some disconnections but works).
I have the audio priority firmware also.
I think there are some settings on my s20 that blocks the activation of the usb host mode
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Activate Developer options>default USB configuration and see if mucking with the USB settings perk it up.
The S20 may not be supported by it,same issues on the 10+ with some dongles.
It must have a built in DAC chipset if the S20 doesn't provide one. I'm not sure if it does or doesn't.*
If others say it works on the S20, it should otherwise get one that's known to be compatible.
*edited, my bad
blackhawk said:
Activate Developer options>default USB configuration and see if mucking with the USB settings perk it up.
The S20 may not be supported by it,same issues on the 10+ with some dongles.
It must have a built in DAC chipset if the S20 doesn't provide one. I'm not sure if it does or doesn't.*
If others say it works on the S20, it should otherwise get one that's known to be compatible.
*edited, my bad
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I tried to change default usb configuration in developer mode but not solved. Tried all options.
The Sonata HD has an integrate Hi-Res DAC.
In addition, after about 70 connect/disconnect attempts, my s20 detects the DAC, works for 1-2 min and then stop working. After that, the phone has not detected the DAC anymore.
The strange thing is that if I connect the DAC via an OTG adapter, all works good without any issues.
I tried "USB Host Diagnostics" App, but no device is detected.
Furthermore I enabled USB debug to view the logcat via ADB. When I connect the device on USB-C port I can see a "BATTERY CHANGED" event on the USBProvider module, but android not detects any device connected on USB-C port.
If I connect the same DAC on a s10 (with same android and EMUI version of my S20) or on a s8, device is detected and works, so I think that isn't a defective device. It seems that Android not activate USB OTG mode when device is connected on the USB-C port.
@serafko has my same phone and the same device (with the same firmware version) and he has no problems. This makes me think that more than a compatibility problem with the S20 is some Android setting that causes the problem.
danielerispoli said:
I tried to change default usb configuration in developer mode but not solved. Tried all options.
The Sonata HD has an integrate Hi-Res DAC.
In addition, after about 70 connect/disconnect attempts, my s20 detects the DAC, works for 1-2 min and then stop working. After that, the phone has not detected the DAC anymore.
The strange thing is that if I connect the DAC via an OTG adapter, all works good without any issues.
I tried "USB Host Diagnostics" App, but no device is detected.
Furthermore I enabled USB debug to view the logcat via ADB. When I connect the device on USB-C port I can see a "BATTERY CHANGED" event on the USBProvider module, but android not detects any device connected on USB-C port.
If I connect the same DAC on a s10 (with same android and EMUI version of my S20) or on a s8, device is detected and works, so I think that isn't a defective device. It seems that Android not activate USB OTG mode when device is connected on the USB-C port.
@serafko has my same phone and the same device (with the same firmware version) and he has no problems. This makes me think that more than a compatibility problem with the S20 is some Android setting that causes the problem.
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Settings>sound and vibrations>advanced sound settings>sound quality and effects
Is the UHQ upscaler enabled when you connect the device?
Could power management be killing the apk(s) needed?
Power management (other than the power setting, Optimize is best) causes nothing but trouble.
Developer options>stand by apps, all app buckets should show as active, if not power management is active and probably running amuck, as usual.
blackhawk said:
Settings>sound and vibrations>advanced sound settings>sound quality and effects
Is the UHQ upscaler enabled when you connect the device?
Could power management be killing the apk(s) needed?
Power management (other than the power setting, Optimize is best) causes nothing but trouble.
Developer options>stand by apps, all app buckets should show as active, if not power management is active and probably running amuck, as usual.
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The UHQ upscaler is disabled (greyed out) with both the connected and unconnected device.
In the Stand by apps I have some apps greyed out with different states (RARE, FREQUENT ,EXEMPTED, etc).
Do you think this could be the problem?
In this case how can I solve?
I have currently enabled "Optimize" in power management.
Thank you so much for your help!
EDIT: I just disabled the "Risparmio energia applicazione" (I think Energy saving app in english) and now all the apps in the Developer options -> stand by apps are in the "ACTIVE" state....same issue! Device not detected and UHQ upscaler greyed out.
EDIT2: Also tried to enable the developer option "Disable automatic audio routing": same issue!
I think this is doable but you're going to have to play with it. Contact the manufacturer if all else fails.
I found this:
https://www.hidizs.net/blogs/news/h...with-hi-res-sound-with-sonata-hd-dac-cable-ii
blackhawk said:
I think this is doable but you're going to have to play with it. Contact the manufacturer if all else fails.
I found this:
https://www.hidizs.net/blogs/news/h...with-hi-res-sound-with-sonata-hd-dac-cable-ii
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I contacted technical support but they replied after 4 days with a classic standard email.
Also I tried to flash all 3 firmware (now the device is with "D - Pure Music" firmware, the same as the other user.
Finally I did all the tests both with the app they recommend (HybyMusic) and with USB Audio Player PRO, setting the BitPerfect option and exclusive access to the USB port. This way the app bypasses the android usb stack and uses an optimized driver.
I also tried to clear the data and cache of the system application "Usb settings", but despite all these attempts I could not solve it in any way.
At this point, considering that the manufacturer's assistance is practically non-existent, I believe that I will return the product directly through Amazon.
I am very sorry because the DAC quality of this device is amazing and I do not know if I should order another one as I honestly have not yet understood if it is a defective product or compatibility problem.
Anyway thanks again for the help!
As soon as I plug in the Samsung dongle it recognize it and the UHQ upscaler options are available.
Poweramp shows the Samsung 3.5mm adapter with 24bit 48khz sampling rate being outputted.
For whatever reason the phone isn't recognizing the device.
I don't know what the communication protocol is for the linkup. Sorry.
blackhawk said:
As soon as I plug in the Samsung dongle it recognize it and the UHQ upscaler options are available.
Poweramp shows the Samsung 3.5mm adapter with 24bit 48khz sampling rate being outputted.
For whatever reason the phone isn't recognizing the device.
I don't know what the communication protocol is for the linkup. Sorry.
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I have the Samsung dongle too and works like a charm with all apps (Spotify, PowerAmp, etc).
I'm considering to buy an bluetooth DAC like the Fiio BTR5. It works both as Bluetooth or USB-C DAC, so I would be sure not to have compatibility problems.
Thanks again for the help!
danielerispoli said:
I tried to change default usb configuration in developer mode but not solved. Tried all options.
The Sonata HD has an integrate Hi-Res DAC.
In addition, after about 70 connect/disconnect attempts, my s20 detects the DAC, works for 1-2 min and then stop working. After that, the phone has not detected the DAC anymore.
The strange thing is that if I connect the DAC via an OTG adapter, all works good without any issues.
I tried "USB Host Diagnostics" App, but no device is detected.
Furthermore I enabled USB debug to view the logcat via ADB. When I connect the device on USB-C port I can see a "BATTERY CHANGED" event on the USBProvider module, but android not detects any device connected on USB-C port.
If I connect the same DAC on a s10 (with same android and EMUI version of my S20) or on a s8, device is detected and works, so I think that isn't a defective device. It seems that Android not activate USB OTG mode when device is connected on the USB-C port.
@serafko has my same phone and the same device (with the same firmware version) and he has no problems. This makes me think that more than a compatibility problem with the S20 is some Android setting that causes the problem.
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danielerispoli said:
I have the Samsung dongle too and works like a charm with all apps (Spotify, PowerAmp, etc).
I'm considering to buy an bluetooth DAC like the Fiio BTR5. It works both as Bluetooth or USB-C DAC, so I would be sure not to have compatibility problems.
Thanks again for the help!
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You mean you want to transmit the audio in the bt realm with the BTR5?
Even using the LDAC or AptX-HD codec the resolution and quality will be inferior to the Samsung dongle DAC to 3.5mm audio output.
BT lacks the bandwidth to support 24 bit 96khz resolution.
If the device you're coupling by bt doesn't support AptX-HD it won't do anything the phone bt chipset can't do*.
I believe that phone support the Sony LDAC bt codec, unfortunately only Sony headphones use it.
If you want to use bt headphones with the best easily available HQ audio I go with Sony.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/ldac-ultimate-bluetooth-guide-20026/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/the-best-bluetooth-ldac-headphones-of-2020-29515/amp/
This is a more reasonably priced LDAC headphone set than the top shelf Sony WH-1000XM4. For almost $200 less it doesn't sound as good but pretty close. Compare all the features first if you decide to go this way.
https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...72731859,prmr:1,pid:14828217612972731859,cs:1
Lol I have a 10 yo pair of Koss Porta Pros, the still work and sound damn good using the Samsung dongle. Not bad for the $29 I paid for them back then. There still around and a classic for good reasons.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/koss-porta-pro-limited-edition-review-11119/amp/
I am sorry, that i missinform you. My Sonata firmware is not "audio priority", but is "pure audio (D)". When i plugin DAC into USB port, Poweramp start automaticaly.
blackhawk said:
You mean you want to transmit the audio in the bt realm with the BTR5?
Even using the LDAC or AptX-HD codec the resolution and quality will be inferior to the Samsung dongle DAC to 3.5mm audio output.
BT lacks the bandwidth to support 24 bit 96khz resolution.
If the device you're coupling by bt doesn't support AptX-HD it won't do anything the phone bt chipset can't do*.
I believe that phone support the Sony LDAC bt codec, unfortunately only Sony headphones use it.
If you want to use bt headphones with the best easily available HQ audio I go with Sony.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/ldac-ultimate-bluetooth-guide-20026/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/the-best-bluetooth-ldac-headphones-of-2020-29515/amp/
This is a more reasonably priced LDAC headphone set than the top shelf Sony WH-1000XM4. For almost $200 less it doesn't sound as good but pretty close. Compare all the features first if you decide to go this way.
https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...72731859,prmr:1,pid:14828217612972731859,cs:1
Lol I have a 10 yo pair of Koss Porta Pros, the still work and sound damn good using the Samsung dongle. Not bad for the $29 I paid for them back then. There still around and a classic for good reasons.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/koss-porta-pro-limited-edition-review-11119/amp/
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The Fiio BTR5 supports all Bt codecs, LDAC included. In Bt mode supports up to 96Khz 24bit but in USB mode supports up to 384khz with DSD256 native. The dongle has 2x ES9218P DAC by Sabre.
The Samsung dongle.
The samsung dongle actually has very high quality, in fact I was surprised, but it has a hard time driving my 150Ohm Shure headphones. No problem with my Bose QC20 instead.
serafko said:
I am sorry, that i missinform you. My Sonata firmware is not "audio priority", but is "pure audio (D)". When i plugin DAC into USB port, Poweramp start automaticaly.
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Sorry, my mistake. The firmware I loaded is "SONATA _HD-D_Pure".
Hi Guys.
Just tried the Sonata 2 on S10+ and I'll let a fried try on S20 soon.
This product looks like useless and malfunctioning.
Talking about S10, it integrates a great DAC, it's just heavily limited by software, I don't want to know why...
I rooted it and, modding the mixer_gains.xml, installing Viper4Android and using dynamic driver based headphones it's absolutely unbelievable.
Anyway, Google just improved SafetyNet, they'll soon close the door to any root solution, Magisk included, in a short time we'll have the most of apps refusing to run on rooted phones.
That's why I'm searching for a decent type-c DAC cable.
Coming to the Sonata 2, its volume is just acceptable, but bass frequencies are too weak.
Moreover, its connector is unstable, there's frequent disconnections
Also the game of the 3 firmwares is absurd.
I flashed the sound priority firmware, honestly this firmware increases sound quality a little bit, but it shockingly fails to manage the microphone: on outgoing and incoming calls microphone doesn't work at all.
Finally, reverting to call priority firmware, the microphone still doesn't work.
In my opinion this product looks like the usual chinese bull****, do you confirm?
I'm actually looking to something better, but it prefer it in the "cable" form, using it for work and sport a big device wouldn't be so comfortable...
Regards
Ok the provided cable is not bidirectional the one with the logo should go into the phone.
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Hi,
I'm very interested in getting my TF201 to record band rehearsals, jam sessions etc... Since the discovery of USB Audio Recorder Pro, I've been very hopeful that I'd be able to buy a half-decent USB condensing mic, like the Blue products (Snowball, Yeti) or a Samson Meteor for recording.
Now they list TF201 as supported and the Blue products are listed, great, but I'm concerned about the USB port on the dock, does it deliver a compliant USB2 power output? Or do I have to *sulk* and get a powered hub? Would CM10 be better placed on my TF201 for audio recording through a usb device?
Also, I get mixed reports that Jellybean hasn't actually brought USB audio, quoting eXtream Software Development with
Android does not support USB audio (even Android 4.1 contrary to popular believe!).
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I did a quick test with a Plantronics headset, it was detected, but failed to record anything, the FAQ for USB Audio Recorder says it's usually due to a USB port not providing sufficient power
Edit : More Testing
So I tried a Microsoft Lifechat Lx3000 as one was available in the office and it worked, so it seems it's device dependant, would still like to hear from someone who is using a Samson Meteor or Blue Snowball Mic.
Thanks.
Hello lucky honor owners. I just fall in love woth h7 when i saw it and decided to buy it but...few questions without answers makes me wait.
1. Does honor 7 support MHL (media streaming over hdmi)? This is needed to connect the phone to pionier appradio.
2. Is audio quality good enough to ise it with high quality headphones?
3. Some reviews say something about pro mode camera update. Does anybody know when will it be updated?
Thanks for any help.
- 1 : no
-2 : no (need to flash a mod with root for better experience)
-3 : Already implemented in the béta MM 6.0
And if you like custom roms,mods etc............just forget this phone
energy_drink said:
Hello lucky honor owners. I just fall in love woth h7 when i saw it and decided to buy it but...few questions without answers makes me wait.
1. Does honor 7 support MHL (media streaming over hdmi)? This is needed to connect the phone to pionier appradio.
2. Is audio quality good enough to ise it with high quality headphones?
3. Some reviews say something about pro mode camera update. Does anybody know when will it be updated?
Thanks for any help.
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1 - Nope. But you can get music from H7 through BT and also probably USB using the phone as mass storage, or even connecting the headphone plug to a AUX-in in the radio.
2 - What is your definition of High quality? The sound is good through a pair of RHA 750i, but doesn't come close to a Fiio X3ii. As any phone wouldn't come close to a good mainstream dedicated media player, not to mention pairing it with a portable amp.
3 - From B140 upwards.
zinko_pt said:
1 - Nope. But you can get music from H7 through BT and also probably USB using the phone as mass storage, or even connecting the headphone plug to a AUX-in in the radio.
2 - What is your definition of High quality? The sound is good through a pair of RHA 750i, but doesn't come close to a Fiio X3ii. As any phone wouldn't come close to a good mainstream dedicated media player, not to mention pairing it with a portable amp.
3 - From B140 upwards.
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So no way to mirror video content via hdmi?
You could always use a Chromecast to mirror video
Im using pioneer app radio in my car which mirrors phones screen so you have your phones display mirrored on 7inch and you can operate your phone through the head unit. Thats why i need mhl
energy_drink said:
Im using pioneer app radio in my car which mirrors phones screen so you have your phones display mirrored on 7inch and you can operate your phone through the head unit. Thats why i need mhl
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Yes, I know. I have one who does that also. But you surely cannot control the phone from the HU (Head Unit). Probably you could if it was a iPhone, like my HU does. But that control is done through USB (special one for iPhone) as I recall. There is no HDMI control signal passing through, I believe.
You can control the radio, using steering wheel buttons if you have them. Just apply a CANBUS between the HU and the buttons, to decode the signals.
There is an app designed for pioneers appradio "ARunchained" it works with amy android with mhl. Phone streams video over hdmi and touchscreen of head unit works as phones screen. Touch signal wil be send by bluetooth and you can use your head unit in the same way as you ise your phone. The only thing is that you need mhl. I was using that with note 3 then lg g4 and now i have spare phone and looking for the next one. Thats why it made me sad that honor doestnt support mhl
When all the juice has been consumed from the battery, It doesn't charge at all. It just shows plug a charger animation and phone's red led blinks. Otherwise it charges normally like with a basic battery module.
Other problem is that OTG does not work... I tested with two different phones but they don't react at all when I attach otg cable.
Third problem is that when using it with my computer it usually lengthens my bios post time and shutdown times plus I have to attach the freaking thing again after restart or it doesn't recognize B&O DAC
Does anyone have any tips on how to get some of those problems fixed?
Edit: Even with all these problems I'm amazed how clear everything sounds even with my super cheap headphones. It even beats my mackie 1640i mixer with better clarity and more defined crosstalk.
Sorry, no solution for the problems but I can confirm, that OTG don't work with the HiFi DAC.
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mkpcxxl
Oh Well isn't it false marketing then?
Is there any solution for the LOS based ROMS restarting my device when I disconnect my headphones
mkpcxxl said:
Sorry, no solution for the problems but I can confirm, that OTG don't work with the HiFi DAC.
Regards
mkpcxxl
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It might be because of the OTG cable that came with it, I tested hifi plus on my PC with the cable that came with it and it won't recognize it :/ LG quality control and driver support is like the world most retarded..
Does someone have any solutions or tricks how I could get my PC to recognize hifi plus even without re-attaching it after reboot
EDIT: I got it to recognize it after reboot by setting every usb power saving feature off. But now I'm faced with new problem.
There isn't any audio coming to speakers even when it's recognized and audio meter is jumping.
I copied this from audio device log.
Device SWD\MMDEVAPI\{0.0.0.00000000}.{7c9d948d-2d91-486c-8691-ab0ce83e1204} was not migrated due to partial or ambiguous match.
Last Device Instance Id: SWD\MMDEVAPI\{0.0.0.00000000}.{653700fa-3dd0-475c-8906-f91aedf300c7}
Class Guid: {C166523C-FE0C-4A94-A586-F1A80CFBBF3E}
Location Path:
Migration Rank: 0xF00000000000F120
Present: false
Status: 0xC0000719
I have a couple of questions regarding the following:
- is the USB-C to 3.5 dongle included with the mate 10 pro include a dac?
- The BT Audio when used in the car does have lower sound than the Galaxy S8 which is my second phone plus the APTXHD found in the developer options doesnt work too.
any ideas?
mameenbh said:
I have a couple of questions regarding the following:
- is the USB-C to 3.5 dongle included with the mate 10 pro include a dac?
- The BT Audio when used in the car does have lower sound than the Galaxy S8 which is my second phone plus the APTXHD found in the developer options doesnt work too.
any ideas?
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I think its a dac, I just used it in my car and the sound is way stronger and different, I'm sticking to that instead of the BT Audio in the Huawei.
I doubt that the dongle holds the DAC but the SOC does. Or at least it's on the motherboard.
Did anyone try the huawei histen audio though?
mameenbh said:
Did anyone try the huawei histen audio though?
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It does make my Xiaomi earphones sounds better. I'm on Mate 10 though.
mameenbh said:
Did anyone try the huawei histen audio though?
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Yeah, it's great but I have to go to parameters - huawei histen each time I put my headset.
Option is always activated but seems work only I go to parameters first
mameenbh said:
I have a couple of questions regarding the following:
- is the USB-C to 3.5 dongle included with the mate 10 pro include a dac?
- The BT Audio when used in the car does have lower sound than the Galaxy S8 which is my second phone plus the APTXHD found in the developer options doesnt work too.
any ideas?
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I doubt that the included dongle holds a DAC/Amp. Instead, I've been using my DragonFly Black (1.5) with a usb-c to usb-a otg cable, which delivers a much cleaner/wider/louder sound.
Regarding Bluetooth codec, AptX HD works great for me (using Aiaiai TMA-2 + H05), maybe your car BT receiver is not compatible?...
I tried both the dongle and the included USB Type-C headphone on my old Mate 9 Pro, and interestingly, the USB Type-C headphone worked perfectly while the dongle was not working at all.
Since Mate 9 Pro has a built-in 3.5mm AUX port, I don't think it supports USB analog audio pass thru. Therefore, I think the included headphone indeed has a DAC, but the dongle doesn't . If this is true, then Mate 10 Pro indeed has a DAC built in.
Hello!
I recently picked up a pixel 6, very happy with it so far except for the fact that my car is too old for the bluetooth to carry music to the radio.
I was wondering if anybody has managed to find a type c to 3.5mm cable that works? I have tried a type c to 3.5mm adaptor and it doesn't work, I think I need a straight type c to 3.5mm cable instead of an adaptor?
Before anybody asks, I have an fm transmiter but not really enjoying the experience between static or the bluetooth getting confused with the car itself.
I don't see why a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter shouldn't work. Try finding one on amazon that specifically advertises use in cars. It could be possible that the one you have is incompatible, manufacturers tend to make adapters that only work in specific circumstances.
You need an active adapter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter). Passive ones will not work. You better get the google cable if available. Apple one works but is too quiet in android. In fact any active cable should work.
Thank you both.
I have seen this one on Amazon, this is what I need I guess?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/KOOPAO-Adapter-Headphone-Stereo-Compatible-Grey/dp/B07Z3TRJKS/ref=sr_1_4?crid=VG53YFREW7S7&keywords=Type+C+to+3.5mm+Stereo+Audio+Cable&qid=1641755818&sprefix=type+c+to+3.5mm+stereo+audio+cable%2Caps%2C84&sr=8-4
I use this one:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Y7YXHSB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
An alternative if you have 12v power in your car is using a USB Bluetooth to 3.5mm device like this one.
Hagibis Bluetooth Receiver Bluetooth 5.0 Adapter Hands-Free Bluetooth Car Kits AUX Audio 3.5mm Jack Stereo Music Wireless Receiver for Car Speaker Home Built-in Microphone (U3-Grey) : Amazon.com.au: Electronics
Hagibis Bluetooth Receiver Bluetooth 5.0 Adapter Hands-Free Bluetooth Car Kits AUX Audio 3.5mm Jack Stereo Music Wireless Receiver for Car Speaker Home Built-in Microphone (U3-Grey) : Amazon.com.au: Electronics
www.amazon.com.au
That way you can still be wireless and have Bluetooth in an older car, without having to deal with those hit or miss radio adaptors
I have this issue since using the Galaxy S21, the way I fixed it, start playing music on the phone speaker, then connect the cable, and it will start working, it happens all the time, that why I bought a cheap Bluetooth receiver from Walmart, best $8 I've spent in years.
cervantesjc said:
I have this issue since using the Galaxy S21, the way I fixed it, start playing music on the phone speaker, then connect the cable, and it will start working, it happens all the time, that why I bought a cheap Bluetooth receiver from Walmart, best $8 I've spent in years.
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I thought to do the same but the phone shows that the connected device is not supported
neptun2 said:
You need an active adapter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter). Passive ones will not work. You better get the google cable if available. Apple one works but is too quiet in android. In fact any active cable should work.
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Just to clear up what that actually means for OP: a passive adapter will work only on USB-C ports that are able to route an *analog* signal. These are fairly uncommon -- most USB-C ports are digital only.
The nice thing about digital output is that you get to control the sound quality by selecting a USB-DAC of a quality that meets your needs, instead of being limited to whatever cheap thing they built in to the phone.
Physically, you can't even tell the difference any more. While USB-DAC's used to always involve a "big ugly box", the circuitry has shrunk these days to small enough to fit into the ends of the dongle.
The headphone adapter sold by Google is an example of this, its a USB-DAC, but shows no sign of containing any significant components besides the connectors.
I tried one that came with an old Motorola phone and it did not work, but Google sells one. They should be able to confirm if it works before you order it
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_headphone_adapter?hl=en-US
I've personally tried 3 different ones that have worked for me, the first one was from an old Motorola phone, the second one, was one that I bought at an airport, I believe the brand is Moshi, and the third one was coming from a one plus phone. They all worked by playing on phone speaker and then plugging it.
cervantesjc said:
I've personally tried 3 different ones that have worked for me, the first one was from an old Motorola phone, the second one, was one that I bought at an airport, I believe the brand is Moshi, and the third one was coming from a one plus phone. They all worked by playing on phone speaker and then plugging it.
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Which Moto phone? My Moto Z(2) Force one gives an error message that the audio device is not supported.
chaimav said:
Which Moto phone? My Moto Z(2) Force one gives an error message that the audio device is not supported.
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It is the moto Z2 Force, I've used it a couple times, and I had no issues.
cervantesjc said:
It is the moto Z2 Force, I've used it a couple times, and I had no issues.
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It works on your Pixel 6? Maybe mine is defective??
This discussion is very interesting. Generally pixel 6 (and previous pixels also) do not send analogue audio signal to the usb type c port hence passive converters from type c to 3.5 mm do not work. You need active converter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter) in it so that the digital audio from the usb type c port is transformed to analogue signal and sent to the headphones or whatever else. Every phone though has integrated DAC in the chipset because otherwise it would not be able to drive its own speakers with analogue signal. When i tried to connect my passive DAC adapter from oneplus 7 phone i got error on the pixel 6 that cable is not compatible. It is possible if you play something through the speakers analogue signal to also be copied towards the usb type c port and this way to trick passive adapters to also work but this need to be tested. I think that i still have the passive adapter somewhere and will test these days if i find it.
neptun2 said:
This discussion is very interesting. Generally pixel 6 (and previous pixels also) do not send analogue audio signal to the usb type c port hence passive converters from type c to 3.5 mm do not work. You need active converter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter) in it so that the digital audio from the usb type c port is transformed to analogue signal and sent to the headphones or whatever else. Every phone though has integrated DAC in the chipset because otherwise it would not be able to drive its own speakers with analogue signal. When i tried to connect my passive DAC adapter from oneplus 7 phone i got error on the pixel 6 that cable is not compatible. It is possible if you play something through the speakers analogue signal to also be copied towards the usb type c port and this way to trick passive adapters to also work but this need to be tested. I think that i still have the passive adapter somewhere and will test these days if i find it.
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I tried an adapter from a Oneplus 6 (if memory serves) and I had the same problem, hence the thread
Given the one from Google looks just the same I am apprehensive to buy it until I am 100% certain
Today DAC circuits are so small that it is easy to integrate these into the usb type c part of the cable. There is no way to tell if cable is active or passive only by looking at it anymore. Google cable should work fine. Alternatively you can try the trick with first playing through the speakers and then connecting the old oneplus 6 cable and see if that will make it work. ne side note - don't buy the apple usb to 3.5 mm cable. It has very low volume on android (works properly on ios and windows). Tested it myself.
neptun2 said:
This discussion is very interesting. Generally pixel 6 (and previous pixels also) do not send analogue audio signal to the usb type c port hence passive converters from type c to 3.5 mm do not work. You need active converter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter) in it so that the digital audio from the usb type c port is transformed to analogue signal and sent to the headphones or whatever else. Every phone though has integrated DAC in the chipset because otherwise it would not be able to drive its own speakers with analogue signal. When i tried to connect my passive DAC adapter from oneplus 7 phone i got error on the pixel 6 that cable is not compatible. It is possible if you play something through the speakers analogue signal to also be copied towards the usb type c port and this way to trick passive adapters to also work but this need to be tested. I think that i still have the passive adapter somewhere and will test these days if i find it.
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It would need to be physically wired together like that, which it is definitely not.
It would probably also need a second DAC built in, because there are only so many speakers you can drive with the built-in. That's why some phones are advertised as "dual DAC".
Got Pixel 6 usb-c to 3.5 mm one direct from Google...works great.
jelive said:
Got Pixel 6 usb-c to 3.5 mm one direct from Google...works great.
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Is this for a car aux port or for earphones you use it for?