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One grave mistake: no unlocked version
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mingkee said:
One grave mistake: no unlocked version
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What do you mean by unlocked? If you mean not tied to a carrier then I have to ask what region your in (I'm in the UK and bought one that isn't locked to a carrier)

giociampa said:
What do you mean by unlocked? If you mean not tied to a carrier then I have to ask what region your in (I'm in the UK and bought one that isn't locked to a carrier)
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It's specified to US
Not related to G 5G+

I have a Motorola One 5G Ace. How can I unlock the bootloader without PC? Can I use Sd Card And try and fastboot from there to get bootloader unlocked.

I thought there would be some kind of way

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[Q] Will US carrier SIII work in India?

Hello guys, I'm planning to buy a US carrier locked Samsung Galaxy SIII from US (New Jersey)
Locked phones comes with 2years of contract in carriers like AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, etc.
As these phones cost cheaper than unlocked phone,
if I buy these phones, it is possible to use in Indian Carriers like Airtel 3G. By unlocking or any other procedure to make it work in India.. help mee..
abhishek89 said:
Hello guys, I'm planning to buy a US carrier locked Samsung Galaxy SIII from US (New Jersey)
Locked phones comes with 2years of contract in carriers like AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, etc.
As these phones cost cheaper than unlocked phone,
if I buy these phones, it is possible to use in Indian Carriers like Airtel 3G. By unlocking or any other procedure to make it work in India.. help mee..
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You would have to check your carrier's frequencies. But I believe the US version has all the same 2g/3g frequencies as the international has(plus LTE)
graffixnyc said:
You would have to check your carrier's frequencies. But I believe the US version has all the same 2g/3g frequencies as the international has(plus LTE)
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can you help me out how to check carriers frequency, I really have no idea
What is the procedure for unlocking SIII from US carrier to work in Indian 3G network?
abhishek89 said:
can you help me out how to check carriers frequency, I really have no idea
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Check with the carrier you intend to use .
Dont buy a locked phone .
You should also understand that a USA phone has no Samsung warranty outside of the USA .
jje
JJEgan said:
Check with the carrier you intend to use .
Dont buy a locked phone .
You should also understand that a USA phone has no Samsung warranty outside of the USA .
jje
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I don't want warranty.. as soon as I get the phone, I'll root it..
You cannot actually get the phone for the low price, as you will also have to factor in the price of the contract that you will have to get to along with the phone. If you plan buying just the phone from the carriers, it might be cheaper to buy em in India itself. Besides, the international I9300 is better than the NA variants in my opinion..
sidthegreatest said:
You cannot actually get the phone for the low price, as you will also have to factor in the price of the contract that you will have to get to along with the phone. If you plan buying just the phone from the carriers, it might be cheaper to buy em in India itself. Besides, the international I9300 is better than the NA variants in my opinion..
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I have relative there who is using AT&T. They can help me out buying a contract phone which is only $199.99
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which g5 to get?

hey guys i am officially done with samsung after a complete circus ride of an s6. would like to buy a g5 but there are so many flippin variants i don't know what to buy. i'm currently on at&t, and i know they are all against unlocking the boot loader, so which do i get? i saw that the european g5 is the only one to get twrp? i found an H860n on ebay for $561. is this the same variant? thanks in advance.
European variant is H850.
I might get a European version myself. It costs the same if I were to buy it outright in Canada. The only thing I have to verify is the frequencies.
jkieffer46 said:
i found an H860n on ebay for $561. is this the same variant? thanks in advance.
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No IT Has to be a H850 from Europe.
H860 is a dualsim LG g5.
leo91919 said:
No IT Has to be a H850 from Europe.
H860 is a dualsim LG g5.
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sooooo all i'm seeing is h850 is a tmobile? is that the same thing? not seeing anything that specifically says european version.
jkieffer46 said:
sooooo all i'm seeing is h850 is a tmobile? is that the same thing? not seeing anything that specifically says european version.
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You have to be sure that the Phone Comes from a European country.
And like mohsinkhan35 mentioned you schuld check the frequencies
Edit: in a Lot of countrys tmobile is a Network Carrier.
I don think that Helps.
Maybe ask the selber.
Amazon just started selling the RS988 model that is supposedly fully unlocked and supports all the US carrier frequency bands. I just ordered one today - $649.99 + tax, free same day delivery (in some areas - I'm in LA).
http://amzn.to/206SH6F
When I get it, I'll let you know if it is actually fully unlocked.
BestBuy also has fully unlocked G5s.
jkieffer46 said:
sooooo all i'm seeing is h850 is a tmobile? is that the same thing? not seeing anything that specifically says european version.
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Clove is where I bought mine... Very reputable seller out of the UK. Myself and some other people on the forums bought their H850 from clove. Got mine via DHL from the UK to Colorado in 2 days!
Verified H850 unlocked, unbranded, and made for UK but listed as EU open. Have had ZERO issues that others report.
Everytime I look at the lg g5 site listing the price goes down.
If u want guaranteed root and twrp go with H850 EU open variant. Do not buy from eBay! Go with Clove or AmazonUK.
Also H850 supports all the band's you'll need unless u decide to join CDMA network. DO not get RS988 , if history has shown us anything about LG, it tells us that variant will only ever be carrier unlocked.
Clove link:
https://m.clove.co.uk/lg-g5
jkieffer46 said:
hey guys i am officially done with samsung after a complete circus ride of an s6. would like to buy a g5 but there are so many flippin variants i don't know what to buy. i'm currently on at&t, and i know they are all against unlocking the boot loader, so which do i get? i saw that the european g5 is the only one to get twrp? i found an H860n on ebay for $561. is this the same variant? thanks in advance.
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Just a PSA if you get the rs988 do not change or update your imei. Att does not recognize the device in any way and you would be stuck with hspa+ just was on the phone with them had to use my old imei.
Thanks for the clove link. How long does shipping take? Kinda wanting to get one asap.

Want to buy this but afraid of locked BL

I am really excited about the new V30, I had 3 LG phones before, Optimus G, G3 and G4 now which is BL locked because it is the israeli Variant H815L, which means I am stuck with the stock firmware
is it going to be the same with the V30? I really want to be able to open the BL after 2 years of use
Adooda said:
I am really excited about the new V30, I had 3 LG phones before, Optimus G, G3 and G4 now which is BL locked because it is the israeli Variant H815L, which means I am stuck with the stock firmware
is it going to be the same with the V30? I really want to be able to open the BL after 2 years of use
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Wait for the carrier unlocked versions European or U.S.) which will be eligible for official bootloader unlock.
See this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3665927
I believe most LG flagships Single SIM International version will be definitely bootloader unlocked and of course root. example for the LG G6 the model is LG H870, for the LG V30 , it should be LG H930! If my country ships an LG V30 with impossible bootloader unlocked (could be a dual SIM LG flagship like the LG H930DS ) I'll instead buy LG H930 from Online (EBay or Amazon)!
Ali Mirza said:
I believe most LG flagships Single SIM International version will be definitely bootloader unlocked and of course root. example for the LG G6 the model is LG H870, for the LG V30 , it should be LG H930! If my country ships an LG V30 with impossible bootloader unlocked (could be a dual SIM LG flagship like the LG H930DS ) I'll instead buy LG H930 from Online (EBay or Amazon)!
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Yes, H930 (with no other characters) is the unlocked version for Europe.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
The problem is AFTER the U.S. and European LG G6 unlocked carrier versions were released, LG waited ANOTHER SIX WEEKS to put them on the official bootloader unlock list. I hope they don't wait that long for the LG V30. Otherwise would be end of December before we could unlock bootloader and root the carrier unlocked versions.
ChazzMatt said:
Yes, H930 (with no other characters) is the unlocked version for Europe.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
The problem is AFTER the U.S. and European LG G6 unlocked carrier versions were released, LG waited ANOTHER SIX WEEKS to put them on the official bootloader unlock list. I hope they don't wait that long for the LG V30. Otherwise would be end of December before we could unlock bootloader and root the carrier unlocked versions.
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That six week delay, coupled with the wait for the darn unlocked version just to be released, is the disappointed point for me.
I just will not buy an Android based device in which I can't root.
I hate missing all the carrier costs savings (BOGO) and free gifts from ordering from T-Mobile, but these locked bootloader's for $800 devices is just ridiculous.
I'll get back to the V30 come December I guess.
Amd4life said:
That six week delay, coupled with the wait for the darn unlocked version just to be released, is the disappointed point for me.
I just will not buy an Android based device in which I can't root.
I hate missing all the carrier costs savings (BOGO) and free gifts from ordering from T-Mobile, but these locked bootloader's for $800 devices is just ridiculous.
I'll get back to the V30 come December I guess.
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I agree. I love the pre-order stuff, but TBH, this one isn't giving much. I don't use vr headsets. I'm gonna wait until the unlocked one comes and get that. I miss root.... Haven't had it since the G4.
There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
EVOme said:
There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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I wish I could say the same. Ads drive me utterly bonkers! An adblocker and HOSTS file modification is a must for me.
jcsww said:
I wish I could say the same. Ads drive me utterly bonkers! An adblocker and HOSTS file modification is a must for me.
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Ads where? I can't even say I know where I've ever seen an ad.
EVOme said:
Ads where? I can't even say I know where I've ever seen an ad.
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Even XDA Developers has ads on the site. I take it you don't surf the internet very much or watch YouTube? Some free apps also contain ads.
jcsww said:
Even XDA Developers has ads on the site. I take it you don't surf the internet very much or watch YouTube? Some free apps also contain ads.
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I think he is just being a smart ass, same **** people were doing in the note 8 forums about root on carrier phones.
EVOme said:
There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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Congratulations. I think Apple makes a phone you would be interested in..... Most of us here on XDA want root capabilities and an unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.....
sic0048 said:
Congratulations. I think Apple makes a phone you would be interested in..... Most of us here on XDA want root capabilities and an unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.....
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You feel better? Just because I don't need root means I need to go Apple. Great thought processing you have going. KY
So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
masri1987 said:
So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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Nothing official but more than likely around the middle of November, at least what some sites are hinting towards.
the LG V30 is the most gorgeous phone they've ever made. I like that it doesn't have overly curved sides creating a glare. BUT....I have to have full theming available. The theming out of the box doesn't cut it. I need everything to be black with an accent color of my choosing.
Does the Unlocked Bootloader UK have the 600MHz network speed? Or is it just US variant that have it?
NIKKOTUASON said:
Does the Unlocked Bootloader UK have the 600MHz network speed? Or is it just US variant that have it?
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You mean the 600MHz frequency? LTE BAND 71? The new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band? Not sure why you used the words "network speed".
I'm not speaking for LG, but European carrier unlocked V30 wouldn't need it. What carriers in Europe are using that LTE band? It's not just software, but also hardware (antennas) needed to send/receive that new LTE band.
For instance the South Korea LG V30 model does not have that band.
We have yet to see if the U.S. carrier unlocked version will definitely have it on release. It should, as all the U.S. variants should have the same hardware, with various bands enabled/disabled according to carrier needs. Verizon doesn't need LTE band 71, T-Mobile does.
But it would make sense for LG to basically make the same phone for all of North America, and then enable/disable bands for various carriers.
The "carrier unlocked" version US998 SHOULD have all the U.S./Canada bands enabled. One dept. of T-Mobile said it would, but another said it wouldn't or they didn't know. But LG doesn't need T-Mobile permission to enable that band on a phone T-Mobile is not selling (carrier unlocked version, US998). T-Mobile can't speak for LG.
masri1987 said:
So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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I sent my note 8 back over this and am waiting on the V30.
RiffyDivine said:
I sent my note 8 back over this and am waiting on the V30.
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Why did you sent the note 8 back???
Is the best phone out there so far....

US Unlocked S9 Plus purchased from Samsung is Single SIM

A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
varcor said:
A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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How about purchase from Best Buy?
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Samsung dual sim unlocked model is usually have FD instead of U or F. There may be carrier dual sim idk.
varcor said:
A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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lucky you for extracting a confirmation from samsung support.
I salute you.
you' re good.
North American markets do not typically carry dual-sim Samsung phones.
shook187 said:
How about purchase from Best Buy?
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
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Same with Best Buy, Single SIM
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-s9-64gb-unlocked-lilac-purple/6191424.p?skuId=6191424
diehard2013 said:
lucky you for extracting a confirmation from samsung support.
I salute you.
you' re good.
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Yep, it's never easy getting a straight answer from their 500 station call center in India!
Can you post what lte bands the u.s. unlocked version support?
uzupan said:
Can you post what lte bands the u.s. unlocked version support?
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The US unlocked version will share the same as the previous unlocked devices
https://tinyurl.com/y7xgmtlo
Wait, unlocked as in unlocked bootloader??
cognitivedissonance said:
Wait, unlocked as in unlocked bootloader??
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Unlocked SIM
I don't believe dual SIM models have ever been directly sold to the us market. Not sure why this is shady or surprises you.
cognitivedissonance said:
Wait, unlocked as in unlocked bootloader??
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Now that's funny!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysKI7RIpZFQ
arcanexvi said:
I don't believe dual SIM models have ever been directly sold to the us market. Not sure why this is shady or surprises you.
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Exactly what I was thinking lol. 99.9% of the US has no idea dual SIM phones are even a thing, and 99.99% have no use for them.* Hardly shady for them to not advertise something that is totally irrelevant here. Hell, I would have been MORE surprised had it actually been dual SIM capable. Are there any CDMA capable phones sold in the US which have dual SIM capabilities? AFAIK the only dual SIM capable phones sold here are things like the OnePlus phones which are one model sold worldwide.
*Obviously they have value to some people, I'm not trying to totally diminish them!
iamrobk said:
Exactly what I was thinking lol. 99.9% of the US has no idea dual SIM phones are even a thing, and 99.99% have no use for them.* Hardly shady for them to not advertise something that is totally irrelevant here. Hell, I would have been MORE surprised had it actually been dual SIM capable. Are there any CDMA capable phones sold in the US which have dual SIM capabilities? AFAIK the only dual SIM capable phones sold here are things like the OnePlus phones which are one model sold worldwide.
*Obviously they have value to some people, I'm not trying to totally diminish them!
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I feel the same way. If the device wasnt region specific to the US I'd say it would have a fighting chance. Especially if it were India/Asia. I'm not aware of a native CDMA USA device with Dual SIM.
arcanexvi said:
I don't believe dual SIM models have ever been directly sold to the us market. Not sure why this is shady or surprises you.
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Here's why it's shady. Before you pre-order, Samsung's website only provides general features about the device. After you pay, only then can you download or view a Users Manual on Samsung's website. There are many variants with Galaxy devices and you should have the right to know what the features and capabilities are BEFORE you pay for the device.
No, unlocked as in SIM unlocked.
varcor said:
A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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Not sure why you think this is shady. Typically, unless it specifically states Dual SIM, you should always assume it's a single one. The dual ones are not very common in the USA at all so why would the unlocked version be dual?
I could have sworn when I first looked at the specs on the Samsung site before I did a pre-order it listed the device as being Dual SIM. Maybe they just had a generic spec list that included specs for International variants, but I was under the impression that it would be Dual SIM. That might be why the person above thought it would be as well.
heh... not sure why you feel it's shady. Dual sim phones are 90% all the time international models. US models are single sim, unless otherwise specified.

USA Samsung Tab S6 Bootloader

Does the USA based tab S6 have a unlocked/oem unlock bootloader? Looking to buy a new tablet that has an easy unlock. Sick of messing with the locked flagship phones.
Wait for confirmation from one of our American users, but I'm sure I've read Verizon locks all their bootloaders. So at the very least, you need one not from that carrier.
bartleby999 said:
Wait for confirmation from one of our American users, but I'm sure I've read Verizon locks all their bootloaders. So at the very least, you need one not from that carrier.
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Just looking at a wifi model.
Anyone with a USA tab s6? ready to order but not going to bother if its locked.
Look for model number. Usa is not model number and nobody makes usa tab s6. Avoid your corrupt oligopoly carrier versions and you will easily root it. Wifi models are never carrier versions of course
Extreemator said:
Look for model number. Usa is not model number and nobody makes usa tab s6. Avoid your corrupt oligopoly carrier versions and you will easily root it. Wifi models are never carrier versions of course
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I understand that, I was referring to the US market Tab s6 Wifi. Model SM-T860NZAAXAR or SM-T860NZALXAR.
All the US market snapdragon samsung phones have a locked bootloader and just wanted to be sure before I drop $500+ on one of these tablets.
Yes they do but tablets don't. I don't know why sunggnus didn't unlock it's unlocked sim phones though. Seems very illogical, but logic and big companies is completely incompatible thing in any way
I bought the SM-T860NZAAXAR model through Amazon (sold and shipped by Amazon) back in November 2019 for $539.00 and it came with an unlockable bootloader. I am unlocked and rooted. So far so good.
ragtop429 said:
I bought the SM-T860NZAAXAR model through Amazon (sold and shipped by Amazon) back in November 2019 for $539.00 and it came with an unlockable bootloader. I am unlocked and rooted. So far so good.
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Thanks boss, just bought a 256/8gb model. Wish me luck!
most likely will be locked on any carrier, s4 was the same even when paid off tmobile nor samsung would do it tmobile actually asked on my behalf and they said no.

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