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Ok, I am looking at an online Android/iPhone app builder. They either offer the option to build one for free with unlimited downloads or you can pay yearly with different tiers for different download limits. The difference being that the free one has ads.
Anyways, when asked about just creating the app with their site, then hosting it on your own server and having everyone download it from there instead of paying the yearly fees, the site owner made this statement.
" my personal opinion in the long run you will pay more in this case because every time when apple releaes new iOS (like 6 now) or android has new phone (like samsung galaxy S 3 now) you will have to purchase new binary code from us that supports the latest updates/fixes."
Is this true? I don't see how each new device that comes out will require an update in your app.
Also, as stated, if you pay the yearly fee for the lowest amount of downloads, I assume they can only track downloads from Google Play or the Apple app store. I don't see any way they can track downloads from my own server hosting the .apk file. Anyone have any insight on this to correct me if I'm wrong?
For the record, I'm just looking to develop an app to play my Shoutcast Streaming audio station. I make no profit on the station, so have no capital to spend over $1K a year to have an Android and iPhone app. I mainly want to give it to my friends, and make it available to anyone who visits my Website. I really like the design that I did with this site, and am willing to pay something for it, just not worth $1K./year....
Anybody?
Have you tried installing the official Android Software Development Kit on your computer, and making the app yourself? You don't need to use an online service, and you choose exactly what gets compiled into the apk (ads, Google analytics, etc.).
post-mortem said:
Have you tried installing the official Android Software Development Kit on your computer, and making the app yourself? You don't need to use an online service, and you choose exactly what gets compiled into the apk (ads, Google analytics, etc.).
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Thank you for the reply.
I actually do have the SDK installed, and am looking into what it takes to make my own app. But, don't I have to know xml and Java to create apps using the SDK?
You do need to know those two languages.
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But, don't I have to know xml and Java to create apps using the SDK?
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That online service allows you to write apps without knowing xml or Java?
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That online service allows you to write apps without knowing xml or Java?
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Yes, it's kind of like Appinventor, all visual, just assemble the parts and stuff.
It's nice, just kinda pricey. I once posted the job on freelancer.com and got offers for about as much as this company is asking, and with freelancer I would have owned the app afterwards.
But, again, it's kinda hard to foot the bill when it's a non profit app.
Ok, I'm off to learn XML and Java.......
Oh, almost forgot.... the original questions...
" my personal opinion in the long run you will pay more in this case because every time when apple releaes new iOS (like 6 now) or android has new phone (like samsung galaxy S 3 now) you will have to purchase new binary code from us that supports the latest updates/fixes."
Is this true? I don't see how each new device that comes out will require an update in your app.
Also, as stated, if you pay the yearly fee for the lowest amount of downloads, I assume they can only track downloads from Google Play or the Apple app store. I don't see any way they can track downloads from my own server hosting the .apk file. Anyone have any insight on this to correct me if I'm wrong?
any ideas anyone?
I think he means every time Google releases an update to Android (updated OS, not new device). So, for example, you build your app to run on Jelly Bean. But when Key Lime Pie comes out, your app may not work as expected on those devices running KLP. Then, you'd have to pay them to recompile your app with updated binaries, or risk losing market share.
If your app is really simple and would run fine on Android 2.2 and up, then that "purchase new binary" thing is not applicable.
But, hell, if you're willing to learn XML & Java... go for it!
Was just wondering what peoples thoughts were on using the Android Licensing copy protection in their apps? Do you use it and do you spend a lot of time on it or have any creative ways to help enforce it?
As we all know any kind of drm will always be cracked but I just wanted to know if people found it worthwhile to have..
I'm using In-app-billing, because I found that even licensed apps can be copied.
And yes, all apps can be cracked eventually, but most of the publishers of cracked apps remove them if you ask to. So that's what I'm gonna do!
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I don't like license checks that force you to be online, but I do like to have 'something' in place...
Recently I started working with some OEMs in India who wanted to pre-load my apps on their devices. Very exciting obviously, but I didn't know if I could trust them as I'd never heard of them.
So what I did was get the app to load a web page on one of my servers off the screen (9000%x...) so that it couldn't be seen. The page it linked to was empty, but if I wanted to I could modify the code to include a redirect that would send it to another page. Then in my 'onPageOverride' event I just said if URL = 'stopapp.htm' then do whatever it was I wanted to do.
What I actually have it do in that event is to fill the entire screen with that web page. The user then can't interact with the app underneath, but they get a message that I can create at the time saying 'This app has been illegally distributed' or whatever else I want to say. I can even forward them on to the download page if I want this way.
This works well too because if the user isn't online, the page just doesn't load and nothing happens. But if I want to stop offline use as well I can save a file in File.DirInternal and have the app check for that. 'SwitchOff.txt'. They get caught once, then they can't use the app.
Obviously this doesn't work quite like a license check, but what you *could* do with it is to have the app pop up with a message to people using an old version that's not updated. That's probably downloaded off of some file sharing site, so you could then just keep pestering them to 'update' and send them to the Play Store to do so. You can also check how many of the users on that version of your app are legitimate by looking at your Play Developer Console.
One thing to note is that the redirect URLs you use will need to be different in every version of your app that you release.
Hope this helps someone! I wish I'd done it sooner, one of my apps is all over the web grrrr...
pretty much the same as what I'm doing atm except I just ping a server in the background and display a popup if the result meets certain conditions.. I don't disable the app either as I can't be 100% certain it's pirated, instead I display a "scary" popup saying if they're using a pirated copy this is illegal etc.. your average user won't know how the popup was generated so it should be enough to make them think "someone" is onto them and go the proper route.. With the added bonus a genuine user can just press ok and carry on using the app
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Currently, none of my apps use licensing.
For one of my paid apps, about 5% of the downloads are from non-Google Play sources, meaning, I'm not seeing any revenue from those 5%.
There is an Android API, that allows developers to see which platform their app was downloaded from. So, I've been thinking about adding that hidden feature to my apps and maybe do something fun with it. But, haven't got around to it yet. My thinking has been that if somebody downloaded a pirated copy of my app, then they probably weren't going to pay for it in the first place. And, hopefully, they will tell their friends about it and maybe one of them will actually purchase it through Google Play.
I already have all my licensing code in place and commented out. Since my app is pretty new I want to see how it does before adding licensing. Since the app is free and income is from IAP its not too bad. I'd only turn on licensing in the next release if I see a pressing need for it.
Currently, none of my apps use licensing.
I have no App Development coding experience so I was looking online sites (Appery.io, TheAppBuilder etc) where you can easily knock up an app using a web front end.
My idea for an app is relatively simple ( a sort of mobile html5 app ) and one of these online app dev sites would do the job.
My question is, the apps that these sites produce, can they be put on apps stores and sold for a price (ie 99p) or do they have to be free?
I would like to have a (cut down) free version and a paid for full version of the app
Andromo gives you the first one for free, but I would also like to know of others if anyone has a list.
App Dev SIte is bad. Game maker studio and Construct 2 is better
My app named iFreeMovies is a simple list of youtube movies. It's not a playlist, it's searches the movies that orders in a list and you can watch them in youtube player api v3. Using an open source imdb api you can also get some informations in a webview. Unfortunately today I get this mail:
REASON FOR REMOVAL: Violation of the intellectual property and impersonation or deceptive behavior provisions of the Content Policy. Please refer to the IP infringement and impersonation policy help article for more information.
Your app and/or elements of its listing on Google Play, including title, description, logo(s), or promotional screenshots must not include unauthorized usage of protected works belonging to a third party.
Your app icon and promotional screenshots must not contain images that appear confusingly similar to existing products.
This particular app has been disabled as a policy strike. If your developer account is still in good standing, you may revise and upload a policy compliant version of this application as a new package name.
This notification also serves as notice for remaining, unsuspended violations in your catalog, and you may avoid further app suspensions by immediately unpublishing any apps in violation of (but not limited to) the above policy. Once you have resolved any existing violations, you may republish the app(s) at will. Before publishing applications, please ensure your apps’ compliance with the Developer Distribution Agreement and Content Policy.
All violations are tracked. Serious or repeated violations of any nature will result in the termination of your developer account, and investigation and possible termination of related Google accounts. If your account is terminated, payments will cease and Google may recover the proceeds of any past sales and the cost of any associated fees (such as chargebacks and payment transaction fees) from you.
If you feel we have made this determination in error, you can visit the Google Play Help Center article for additional information regarding this removal.
I don't understand. So since I'm not an expert developer, in order to learn, I would like that someone clarify me what's happened. In particular my great question is: What's the reason? The logo, the name, the company name ( I wrote Tuxmind as nickname) .
Help me to figure out, please!
I'm betting it's either you using YouTube images or the name. Apple has a habit of pulling this with alot of inames
I use YouTube thumbnails in the list. It's a possibility offered by YouTube api v3. So Could I change the name from ifree movies to free movies and solve the problem? But I will loose my users. Sigh!
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Well I'll be honest. The title free movies is miss leading. All your app does is give you a list of YouTube videos. The name implies they could download those movies which is illegal.
Thank you for your answer. Then Free streaming movies or Free Underground Movies... Or something Like that you can't refer to download some Giles. Isn't it?
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Thank you for your answer. Then Free streaming movies or Free Underground Movies... Or something Like that you can't refer to download some Giles. Isn't it?
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See your app doesnt do any of that. It doesnt stream movies, and it still implys that you can get movies for free.
Your better off with something like Youtube list or something along those lines.
Watch Movies Tube?
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Using a name that is similar to any other brand would get suspended. For example "iFreeMovies" imitates the Apple brand; "Youtube List" or "Watch Movies Tube" would imitate the YouTube Brand.
Yes.You can.I shall publish your app using my google developer console account.Just contact me.It is free
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you cant unles you use someone elses paid for licence
yes. I can help you to publish it freely,
You can't, you have to pay $25 for an Google Play developer account.
You have to pay 25$ for lifetime license!
You can not
Actually you can not publish your android application into google play store for free. There are so many people who are willing to upload your application with their account. But they can ask you for give them a percent ad revenue which is not good. You must have to pay $25 to google. But if you don't want to pay $25 to google then there are some service in fiverr. There are so many services people are selling who can publish your android application into google play store. You can also buy this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/htt...jaman/upload-android-app-on-google-play-store
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Hey, I have created my app but don't have the means to publish it....please help, Email [email protected]
25 Dollars for the Google Play developer account. Me and everyone has done that payment. You can not publish it unless make the payment.
Yes, someone else can publish the app for you. but it may be of more benefit to you to get your own license if you
think you will create more apps in the future. Not that difficult.
If you include apps, for example, Google AdMob in your app, you will eventually get back your 25$ investment (and more) once you have enough downloads.
Yes you can now distribute android applications on Google play for nothing.
Perused the entire instructional exercise underneath.
Instructions to Publish Android Apps on Google Play Store for Free
There are numerous autonomous Android application engineers out there who plan, code and test the applications they have been taking a shot at just to discover that Google charge a $25 to join as a designer and distribute to Google Play, beforehand known asAndroid Market.
There are likewise autonomous designers out there who haven't depended upon unadulterated advancement yet have utilized free outsider application building administrations and are additionally hoping to distribute their application for nothing.
What large portions of them don't understand is that Google Play is assuredly by all account not the only Android Market and not every one of them charge an expense.
Look at additional here : How To Publish Android Apps on Google Play Store for Free
Sure why not, but You have to pay 25$ for lifetime license!
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I want publish my app
AIJAZ ahmad said:
I want publish my app
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You can contact someone who has developer account, and publish via their account.
you cant unles you use someone elses paid
you cant unles you use someone elses paid
Android App
No, You can not publish an android app on Google Play Store for free, You need to create a Google Play Developer Account which has a one time cost of 25$ (USD)
After this fees, you can publish Android Apps for a Lifetime!
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Google charges a small one time fee for a developer account. After that you can submit as many apps as you want for free.