Hello,
I want to share a feedback which if I had the opportunity to read myself a month ago would have helped me making a choice.
3 years ago, I bought the LG Optimus 2x. The main criteria for me was the speed, not to play, but I think that most features on a phone are useful if they are snappy, I don't want to stand in the street for 30 seconds waiting for my app to load, GPS to localize, search to be sent and result to be displayed. When first used the 2X, I was actually not so impressed with the speed, but it was overall a decent phone (camera, size, ...).
Over time, multiple things bothered me: phone getting slower over time, whatever ROM I would use, battery drains, random reboots or freeze, backlight LED and micro USB connector started to be problematic.
I have then started to consider buying a new phone with the first idea to go away from LG. I wanted a fast phone, around 400EUR with a good camera. I considered the following phones:
Xperia Z1 compact, there are so many reviews underlining problems, mainly with the camera (maybe exaggerated, but still scary)
OnePlus One, it is too large for me, doesn't have LTE 800MHz and availability unknown
Galaxy S4 almost as good as the LG G2 with a little minus for screen, CPU and battery
Moto X, very tempting, perfect size, but less "future proof" than G2
Lumia 930, very tempting too, very good camera, snappy, but more expensive than G2, less good integration with Google services
Ascend P7, similarly to the S4, very close to the G2 on many aspects but little behind overall in my taste (CPU, unsure I would like the iOS-like GUI)
So I finally decided to try again LG with the G2.
My fears were that the G2 is too large and many people reports problems with Kitkat.
Here is my feedback after one week of usage.
Overall, for the moment, I am very happy with my choice. Everything is fast, switching between apps is quick and easy, connecting to GPS, replying to a SMS when using an other app, quickly going to check Facebook, all this was a pain with the Optimus 2X and is a bless with the G2. Camera and screen are really nice too. Battery life is great, no need to constantly disable as many features as possible to keep battery for a day. So far, no freeze, reboot, crash, ...
The 2 concerns I have are:
1. The power button at the back, not a big deal, but not as convenient as when it is on the top.
2. I am tall (1m93, 6'4") and have large hands, but I still find the phone a bit too large to handle with one hand, I think that 5" with thin bezels is really the best size for a smartphone, Xperia Z2, OnePlus One, Galaxy S5, LG G3 are really too large for me. If the trends continues, in 3 years, for my next smartphone, I will not buy a flagship but a midrange, like a successor of a Moto X, maybe, or a OnePlus mini, if it comes.
I hope this will help others making a decision when considering buying a new phone.
Yeah good advice.
I use it one hand no problem and am considerably shorter than you at under 6ft.
Agreed that 5" is the sweet spot. Actually the LG Optimus G is awesome in the hands and pocket. Wish LG fixed something like that in 2014 / 2015.
I was an owner of o2x. When I first bought it, it was the first dual core android ever. So it felt exciting. After some time you realize that android is just made as a ram hog and lg roms were just so not nice. But cm7 on o2x was just really wonderful. With cm10 the phone was just done with. Its not good enough.
lg g2 is really good that I guess lg start knowing what to do.
I still prefer g2 stock ROM over paranoid android that I'm using now. Because temperature and battery consumption are just way better. Pa is still in beta and cm11 is just starting to move on to KitKat source. So let's wait.
Everything in g2 is a relieve just no SD card slot.
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The 2 concerns I have are:
1. The power button at the back, not a big deal, but not as convenient as when it is on the top.
2. I am tall (1m93, 6'4") and have large hands, but I still find the phone a bit too large to handle with one hand.
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About your concerns its actually weird but I rarely ever use the back buttons unless I want to reboot phone, always use knock on or the notifications area for toggling volume and utilize quiet hours so that I don't bother putting my phone on vibrate. I find the G2 to be a perfect size for me and I'm 6ft. Came from a Nexus 5 and couldn't be happier with the battery life and camera, solid phone and best I've ever owned and G2 Tweakbox gives me the few extra options to disable annoying pop ups, volume keys skip tracks etc in LG software, not interested in upgrading any time soon
I m still using lg optimus 2x.....switching to new phone soon...
The list of phone on my mind currently
Lg g2
Nexus 5
Xperia z1
My main concern about lg g2 is lg itself ,poor with updates.....i even want to know about camera and battery life(heavy usage)
Nexus i knw its not a good camera phone but gets the updates first...
Xperia z1....i dnt knw much about this phone but it is best camera phone....all have similar specs ...
What should i buy???confused..
Performance ,display n camera r my major concern
Price
Lg g2 16 gb inr.32000
Nexus 5 32gb inr.31000
Xperia z1 inr.33000
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go for g2, i still own o2x as a backup device...
btw back buttons are great feature when you get used to them after a few days...
I forgot to mention that I had also considered the Nexus 5 for the OS updates, size and price. What held me back was the camera and battery. Also, since 4.0, I don't find the OS updates so important, as long as it runs my apps.
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Thnx for the reply ....i m deciding on lg g2 .....was confused since many days ...will buy g2 as soon as g3 launches so price may drop further ...n exams going ....15 days upto exam end.....will buy g2 on june 10..
Again thnx
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Bouba123 said:
Hello,
I want to share a feedback which if I had the opportunity to read myself a month ago would have helped me making a choice.
3 years ago, I bought the LG Optimus 2x. The main criteria for me was the speed, not to play, but I think that most features on a phone are useful if they are snappy, I don't want to stand in the street for 30 seconds waiting for my app to load, GPS to localize, search to be sent and result to be displayed. When first used the 2X, I was actually not so impressed with the speed, but it was overall a decent phone (camera, size, ...).
Over time, multiple things bothered me: phone getting slower over time, whatever ROM I would use, battery drains, random reboots or freeze, backlight LED and micro USB connector started to be problematic.
I have then started to consider buying a new phone with the first idea to go away from LG. I wanted a fast phone, around 400EUR with a good camera. I considered the following phones:
Xperia Z1 compact, there are so many reviews underlining problems, mainly with the camera (maybe exaggerated, but still scary)
OnePlus One, it is too large for me, doesn't have LTE 800MHz and availability unknown
Galaxy S4 almost as good as the LG G2 with a little minus for screen, CPU and battery
Moto X, very tempting, perfect size, but less "future proof" than G2
Lumia 930, very tempting too, very good camera, snappy, but more expensive than G2, less good integration with Google services
Ascend P7, similarly to the S4, very close to the G2 on many aspects but little behind overall in my taste (CPU, unsure I would like the iOS-like GUI)
So I finally decided to try again LG with the G2.
My fears were that the G2 is too large and many people reports problems with Kitkat.
Here is my feedback after one week of usage.
Overall, for the moment, I am very happy with my choice. Everything is fast, switching between apps is quick and easy, connecting to GPS, replying to a SMS when using an other app, quickly going to check Facebook, all this was a pain with the Optimus 2X and is a bless with the G2. Camera and screen are really nice too. Battery life is great, no need to constantly disable as many features as possible to keep battery for a day. So far, no freeze, reboot, crash, ...
The 2 concerns I have are:
1. The power button at the back, not a big deal, but not as convenient as when it is on the top.
2. I am tall (1m93, 6'4") and have large hands, but I still find the phone a bit too large to handle with one hand, I think that 5" with thin bezels is really the best size for a smartphone, Xperia Z2, OnePlus One, Galaxy S5, LG G3 are really too large for me. If the trends continues, in 3 years, for my next smartphone, I will not buy a flagship but a midrange, like a successor of a Moto X, maybe, or a OnePlus mini, if it comes.
I hope this will help others making a decision when considering buying a new phone.
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Just picked up a G2 myself yesterday for under £300 new, superb bargain but i do have fears that LG will stop supporting this phone once the G3 is out, even though the hardware is still top spec, as LG are well known for lack of support to their former flagships.
As for the Moto X i also have this aswell & i actually find this phone will be more future proof in regards to updates than the G2 will be, 4.4.3 will be on this phone well before the G2 get's it also 4.5 later on in the year, but i be very surprised if the G3 receives the 4.5 update as this will be more for the G3.
About future proof
ixon2001 said:
Just picked up a G2 myself yesterday for under £300 new, superb bargain but i do have fears that LG will stop supporting this phone once the G3 is out, even though the hardware is still top spec, as LG are well known for lack of support to their former flagships.
As for the Moto X i also have this aswell & i actually find this phone will be more future proof in regards to updates than the G2 will be, 4.4.3 will be on this phone well before the G2 get's it also 4.5 later on in the year, but i be very surprised if the G3 receives the 4.5 update as this will be more for the G3.
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I may be wrong, but I don't believe that "future proof" is still so much about getting newer Android releases but rather about having the raw power (CPU, RAM, ...) to run future apps. What do you have in Kitkat that you were missing in Jelly Bean?
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...oems-step-aside-google-is-defragging-android/
Depends what you do with your phone, if you game ect then having the best possible specs is always best.
But if you don't as shown with the recently released Moto E, it does all the basic task's just fine & quicker than the Galaxy S5, there is a video on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P9vDAY0U0A#t=140
To me it more important that a phone receives regular updates rather than all out specs.
The G2 as mentioned by other users on here has a few bugs with 4.4.2, as do other smartphones inc the Nexus 5, when 4.4.3 comes out hopefully this will fix alot of problems people have been having with 4.4.2, the G2 will get it.... at some point, but after that nothing else, will you be happy using your high end spec phone with no more support in the software, because they moved all their efforts onto the G3?, while the likes of the Nexus 5 & the Moto X,G & E will get 4.4.3 quickly and the next major android update later on in the year, while the G2 will probably stuck on 4.4.3.
ixon2001 said:
Depends what you do with your phone, if you game ect then having the best possible specs is always best.
But if you don't as shown with the recently released Moto E, it does all the basic task's just fine & quicker than the Galaxy S5, there is a video on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P9vDAY0U0A#t=140
To me it more important that a phone receives regular updates rather than all out specs.
The G2 as mentioned by other users on here has a few bugs with 4.4.2, as do other smartphones inc the Nexus 5, when 4.4.3 comes out hopefully this will fix alot of problems people have been having with 4.4.2, the G2 will get it.... at some point, but after that nothing else, will you be happy using your high end spec phone with no more support in the software, because they moved all their efforts onto the G3?, while the likes of the Nexus 5 & the Moto X,G & E will get 4.4.3 quickly and the next major android update later on in the year, while the G2 will probably stuck on 4.4.3.
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G2 and Optimus 2X user here too.
The power button in my O2X is starting to act up (again, as I already had it replaced before).
It is a looovely jump. My O2X can barely multitask between browser and Play Store. I have downgraded my O2X to Gingerbread (Temasek's CM7 to be precise), and I just use it now as a bike computer (Strava app).
Before I got the G2, I actually told myself that I wanna try a Sony or an HTC or a Samsung (I havent tried any of their droids yet), but the knock on and slim bezels of the G2 just won me over.
I bought my Moto G 4G a couple of days ago and was wondering if I made the right choice - I can still send it back. Are there any reviews available on the E2 yet? I haven't found any.
How is the display, compared to the Moto G? The resolution is obviously worse, but how about brightness and viewing angles? Is it a bad compromise compared to the Moto G?
battery - would make a difference for me. The Moto E2 will probably be noticeably better, right?
The camera doesn't have a flash - but does it really make a huge difference? The camera in the Moto G is just bad.
I guess the processor won't make a huge difference
the Moto G is already quite old - the E2 will receive updates for a longer time I guess.
Maybe someone can just share their general view on this topic. I'm really happy with the Moto G so far, and usually that's all that counts. But you know how it is with that stuff...
Thanks!
Note: By Moto E, I'm referring to the second generation.
Display: The Moto E display is a bit lower resolution, but not bad at all. You can't see the pixels unless you hold it right up to your face. Brightness and viewing angles are good. Both have IPS LCD displays.
Battery: Moto E will probably be better. Both have good battery life.
Camera: I don't know if you care about the flash. Rear camera on Moto E is usable but not great. At least it is much better than the first gen E. Front camera on the new E is rubbish. I don't know much about the Moto G 4G camera, but it is probably a bit better than the second gen E.
Processor: The Cortex A53 is a significant improvement over the A7. It's around 40-50% faster. Once it gets 5.1, the new Moto E will be really snappy, trust me. Even as is on 5.0, it runs very well, better than the G.
Updates: Yes, I'd reckon that the Moto E will receive updates for years to come, while the Moto G 4G will probably be approaching EOL after it gets 5.0.
squid2 said:
Note: By Moto E, I'm referring to the second generation.
Display: The Moto E display is a bit lower resolution, but not bad at all. You can't see the pixels unless you hold it right up to your face. Brightness and viewing angles are good. Both have IPS LCD displays.
Battery: Moto E will probably be better. Both have good battery life.
Camera: I don't know if you care about the flash. Rear camera on Moto E is usable but not great. At least it is much better than the first gen E. Front camera on the new E is rubbish. I don't know much about the Moto G 4G camera, but it is probably a bit better than the second gen E.
Processor: The Cortex A53 is a significant improvement over the A7. It's around 40-50% faster. Once it gets 5.1, the new Moto E will be really snappy, trust me. Even as is on 5.0, it runs very well, better than the G.
Updates: Yes, I'd reckon that the Moto E will receive updates for years to come, while the Moto G 4G will probably be approaching EOL after it gets 5.0.
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Thanks for your reply. So it sounds like a sure thing for you, if you don't care about the camera. I just ordered the E2 on Amazon, so I'll directly compare them on Friday. Thank god Amazon is so nice when it comes to returning things.
I've had my ME2 (Mote E 2nd Gen) for just over a day now, and I can honestly say it's well worth it. It doesn't feel cheap, is very snappy (no lag at all that I've come across), has a great display even if it isn't "high" resolution, and is very easy to use with "pure" Android as compared to TouchWiz or Sense. I also have a Note 3 with 5.0, and I actually prefer the Moto. The screen size is just right for me. I think anything over 5" is too big (for me) like the Note as I have small hands, but the 4.5" screen doesn't hinder use even being over an inch smaller that I've been using.
bobbyphoenix said:
I've had my ME2 (Mote E 2nd Gen) for just over a day now, and I can honestly say it's well worth it. It doesn't feel cheap, is very snappy (no lag at all that I've come across), has a great display even if it isn't "high" resolution, and is very easy to use with "pure" Android as compared to TouchWiz or Sense. I also have a Note 3 with 5.0, and I actually prefer the Moto. The screen size is just right for me. I think anything over 5" is too big (for me) like the Note as I have small hands, but the 4.5" screen doesn't hinder use even being over an inch smaller that I've been using.
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agreed its a great device for the price.
I am planning to buy a new smartphone. So should I go for Moto E 2nd Gen or Moto G 2nd Gen?
Note: Battery backup matters a lot for me.
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UchihaTech said:
I am planning to buy a new smartphone. So should I go for Moto E 2nd Gen or Moto G 2nd Gen?
Note: Battery backup matters a lot for me.
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id say get the moto e 2nd and wait for the rumored moto g 2015 with lte. as soon as moto drops source for this phone i see development taking off.
UchihaTech said:
I am planning to buy a new smartphone. So should I go for Moto E 2nd Gen or Moto G 2nd Gen?
Note: Battery backup matters a lot for me.
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The LTE version is already released in Germany (199 €). I'd say this is really a question of if you like the bigger screen...
Edit: Just found a decent review of the Moto E2: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/03/review-the-new-moto-e-is-the-most-phone-you-can-get-for-150/1/
Ok, first of all: sorry, I could not figure out what subforum this kind of question belongs to, so I thought that I'd post it on "general".
I need to buy a new phone, my price range is up to 200 € (in Italy, buying online is not a problem)
So far, I have found 2 phones that interest me: the Moto G LTE (2nd gen) and the Galaxy A5.
The motorola phone is 190 € on amazon.
The samsung phone is 15€/month for 30 months (branded), but it includes internet, sms and calling, for which I spend about 8€/month-let's say that in the end it costs 220€.
I really can't decide between the two, but I'm also open to other suggestions.
Here is a list of pros and cons:
-Both have non removable battery. The A5 is supposed to have longer battery life, it seems.
-The A5 's specs look better, BUT I have been hearing mixed opinions. (its hardware was defined "crappy", which may be true for a 300€ phone, but keep in mind that I'm getting it for quite less... is it really that bad or just not worth its "normal" price?). The reviews for the Moto were very good instead.
-The Moto is spill-resistant and has gorilla glass, while the A5 has metal casing and physical buttons
-There is almost nothing around here for the A5 (modding, custom rom, etc.). And it comes whit touchwitz, I guess, since it's samsung. I am not the kind that throws his phone because it's "old", if it doesn't break I am keeping it, so if in 2 years the A5 stops getting updates, and I can't install a custom rom, I'd get "left behind". The Moto commynity seems quite active instead.
-The display, in terms of size, is identical, but the Moto is an IPS LCD, while the A5 is a Super AMOLED. I have no idea what that means. I don't care about ultra HD or bright colors or whatever, the only important thing is being able to read it under the sun.
-Well, the A5 is branded. I never had expirience with branded phones before. What's bad about it, apart from not being able to change provider?
-Desing and camera are totally irrelevant.
So far the Moto seems the "safest" bet, I know that's a good phone for its price, the only big con is the non removable battery (how expensive is it to get it replaced?).