Is us version tmobile version only? - OnePlus Nord N10 5G Questions & Answers

I was interested in getting this phone but I cant ever buy another carrier dependent phone again for update reasons. I thought the n10 5g wouldve been unlocked like the international versions have been but Im seeing little bits of info that point to it being tmobile 'brand'.
Amazon.com: OnePlus Nord N10 5G Unlocked Smartphone, Midnight Ice, 90Hz Refresh Rate, 6GB RAM + 128GB storage, US Version, Model BE2026
Amazon.com: OnePlus Nord N10 5G Unlocked Smartphone, Midnight Ice, 90Hz Refresh Rate, 6GB RAM + 128GB storage, US Version, Model BE2026
www.amazon.com
The bands on the main US site correspond perfectly with tmobiles bands. However there is no mention on the official oneplus n10 5g US portal (at this time) of exclusive tmobile version. It seems to be 'unlocked' but still no confirmation on that and Infact I found conflicting data.
GSMarena confirms it has deals with tmobile/metro.
OnePlus Nord N10 5G and N100 launch in the US with aggressive price tags
Canadians get cheap OnePlus phones too. OnePlus finally launched its most affordable budget offerings yet, the Nord N10 5G and N100, in the US. The...
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Android authority basically says its tmobile/metro exclusive.
OnePlus Nord N10 and N100 available to buy now in the US (Updated)
The OnePlus Nord N10 and N100 phones are available now in the US. The phones are locked to T-Mobile or Metro by T-Mobile, though.
www.androidauthority.com
Can anyone chime in on this?

Mine is SIM unlocked version right from OnePlus

Thanks you made my decision to get it alot easier and after using it for a day, its good to know it is indeed the unlocked version when purchaing directly from oneplus apparently other retailers and amazon selling tmobile variants which is causing the confusion.

Vexusia said:
Thanks you made my decision to get it alot easier and after using it for a day, its good to know it is indeed the unlocked version when purchaing directly from oneplus apparently other retailers and amazon selling tmobile variants which is causing the confusion.
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I got mine from best buy and it was unlocked with no issues. The Amazon one looked a little fishy, as it did not clearly specify it's features

Of course not
Vexusia said:
I was interested in getting this phone but I cant ever buy another carrier dependent phone again for update reasons. I thought the n10 5g wouldve been unlocked like the international versions have been but Im seeing little bits of info that point to it being tmobile 'brand'.
Amazon.com: OnePlus Nord N10 5G Unlocked Smartphone, Midnight Ice, 90Hz Refresh Rate, 6GB RAM + 128GB storage, US Version, Model BE2026
Amazon.com: OnePlus Nord N10 5G Unlocked Smartphone, Midnight Ice, 90Hz Refresh Rate, 6GB RAM + 128GB storage, US Version, Model BE2026
www.amazon.com
The bands on the main US site correspond perfectly with tmobiles bands. However there is no mention on the official oneplus n10 5g US portal (at this time) of exclusive tmobile version. It seems to be 'unlocked' but still no confirmation on that and Infact I found conflicting data.
GSMarena confirms it has deals with tmobile/metro.
OnePlus Nord N10 5G and N100 launch in the US with aggressive price tags
Canadians get cheap OnePlus phones too. OnePlus finally launched its most affordable budget offerings yet, the Nord N10 5G and N100, in the US. The...
www.gsmarena.com
Android authority basically says its tmobile/metro exclusive.
OnePlus Nord N10 and N100 available to buy now in the US (Updated)
The OnePlus Nord N10 and N100 phones are available now in the US. The phones are locked to T-Mobile or Metro by T-Mobile, though.
www.androidauthority.com
Can anyone chime in on this?
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They are unlocked. I know the the phones bands work with tmobile, but I don't believe it has the ability to take advantage of mmwave.
Obviously phones sold by oneplus are unlocked.

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128GB or 256GB preorder?

Has anyone found a reliable seller for the S9+ in 128 or 256? Exynos or SD. I don't care.
Vodafone Romania- preordered 256 gb black variant. Check www.vodafone.ro and ask if they do international shipping!
I just ordered my S9+ 256gb black (dual sim) from axiom telecom in UAE. I did order my S8+ from them last year without problem. They ask for a scan of your id and a scan of your credit card. Shipped to France without problem (though Aramex shipping company was not very speedy at delivering). Shipping from UAE is said to happen on March 15 ... and should take 10 days to reach me.
I ended up going with the 128GB UK version from https://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus .
Cost me $1,023 but it's way better than a Snapdragon with 64GB for $840. and the price includes 3 day international shipping. Considering they are expecting their 1st shipment on the 8th, I may see mine before release day.
sireniankyle said:
Has anyone found a reliable seller for the S9+ in 128 or 256? Exynos or SD. I don't care.
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I've bought 3 Galaxy's from this eBay seller. They're in Houston and offer US and International devices with features you can't purchase here in the US. Very competitive pricing and a good return policy. Highly Recommend!
https://www.ebay.com/usr/never-msrp?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
varcor said:
I've bought 3 Galaxy's from this eBay seller. They're in Houston and offer US and International devices with features you can't purchase here in the US. Very competitive pricing and a good return policy. Highly Recommend!
https://www.ebay.com/usr/never-msrp?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
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Those are some seriously good prices. I'd be tempted if I hadn't already bought a 128 exynos S9+ since the SD 256 is on there for the same price.
sireniankyle said:
Those are some seriously good prices. I'd be tempted if I hadn't already bought a 128 exynos S9+ since the SD 256 is on there for the same price.
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Pardon my ignorance, but are these alternate sources the same as the unlocked phone offered through Samsung's website?
I have never bought a new phone from any seller but one of the big 4 carriers and am just now starting to realize how much better life might be buying this S9+ from someone other than Verizon without all the crapware and the Qualcomm chip. I am aware of the VOLTE concerns, etc. If the standard features work with VZW from some of these overseas sellers I am golden.
The reason I'm even pursuing a source other than Samsung.com is because they don't appear to offer anything but the 64 GB model
you need to get a U3 listed sd card or it wont record 4k video to the card. U1 is too slow
spearoid said:
Pardon my ignorance, but are these alternate sources the same as the unlocked phone offered through Samsung's website?
I have never bought a new phone from any seller but one of the big 4 carriers and am just now starting to realize how much better life might be buying this S9+ from someone other than Verizon without all the crapware and the Qualcomm chip. I am aware of the VOLTE concerns, etc. If the standard features work with VZW from some of these overseas sellers I am golden.
The reason I'm even pursuing a source other than Samsung.com is because they don't appear to offer anything but the 64 GB model
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The S9 and S9+ listed in that ebay sellers shop are the Chinese variants. Which basically means that they have the snapdragon processor, higher storage, and have a better chance of being rooted than any of the U.S. versions.
If you're new to buying outside carriers, it is good to know the benefits of each processor. Snapdragon has support for all U.S. carriers, if unlocked. It also has a stronger gpu so gaming, emulators in particular, will run better. It does not root very well.
The Exynos version tends to have better battery life, and a stronger cpu. It also gets root along with custom roms. It does not, however, work with Sprint or Verizon. They use CDMA radios that the Exynos models just do not have. Also, they apparently lack 1 of T-Mobile's radio bands, but should still mostly work.
You can go HERE to learn more about each individual model.
Clove UK - I have purchased my last three phones there - great people - great service.
international version warranty?
If I get the S9+ international from oversea, will it still have warranty in the US?
sireniankyle said:
The S9 and S9+ listed in that ebay sellers shop are the Chinese variants. Which basically means that they have the snapdragon processor, higher storage, and have a better chance of being rooted than any of the U.S. versions.
If you're new to buying outside carriers, it is good to know the benefits of each processor. Snapdragon has support for all U.S. carriers, if unlocked. It also has a stronger gpu so gaming, emulators in particular, will run better. It does not root very well.
The Exynos version tends to have better battery life, and a stronger cpu. It also gets root along with custom roms. It does not, however, work with Sprint or Verizon. They use CDMA radios that the Exynos models just do not have. Also, they apparently lack 1 of T-Mobile's radio bands, but should still mostly work.
You can go HERE to learn more about each individual model.
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Are you sure?
The S9+ Chinese market device SM-G9650 and SM-G9658 don't list LTE Band 13 to work with Verizon.
That site also shows UK devices with Band 13 which I don't think is correct?
SM-G965FZKDXEU
SM-G965FZVDXEU
Both showing with LTE Bands: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(800), B28(700), B32(1500), B66(AWS- 3)
That seems to directly contradict what Clove has on their website:
https://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus
I would take that Tech Walls link with a grain of salt because it seems to contradict what I'm seeing in many other places.
sireniankyle said:
The S9 and S9+ listed in that ebay sellers shop are the Chinese variants. Which basically means that they have the snapdragon processor, higher storage, and have a better chance of being rooted than any of the U.S. versions.
If you're new to buying outside carriers, it is good to know the benefits of each processor. Snapdragon has support for all U.S. carriers, if unlocked. It also has a stronger gpu so gaming, emulators in particular, will run better. It does not root very well.
The Exynos version tends to have better battery life, and a stronger cpu. It also gets root along with custom roms. It does not, however, work with Sprint or Verizon. They use CDMA radios that the Exynos models just do not have. Also, they apparently lack 1 of T-Mobile's radio bands, but should still mostly work.
You can go HERE to learn more about each individual model.
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You can purchase the Exynos variant here, manufactured in Viet Nam.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item56aa30d9fb:m:m0qNQjaZIJ3QM6T6OQZOZjA
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oipunx said:
If I get the S9+ international from oversea, will it still have warranty in the US?
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Nope
Got Black 256GB FD Exynos International unlocked variant
from Saudi Arabia here in Pakistan for 1085 dollars today.
varcor said:
You can purchase the Exynos variant here, manufactured in Viet Nam.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item56aa30d9fb:m:m0qNQjaZIJ3QM6T6OQZOZjA
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Nope
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Thanks varcor. What if I buy the international version from an ebay seller or online store in the US, will it have warranty then?
oipunx said:
Thanks varcor. What if I buy the international version from an ebay seller or online store in the US, will it have warranty then?
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not warranty in the US whereas the S9/S9+ coming with exynos ( SM-G960F/SM-G965F-DS) instead of snapdragon 845
The SM-G9600 and SM-G9650 have snapdragon 845, but I don´t know if these comes with CDMA ratio, but it´s very probably that they doesn´t come with US warranty ( also the 128GB and 256GB at this time has not been offered in the official Samsung store yet)
oipunx said:
Thanks varcor. What if I buy the international version from an ebay seller or online store in the US, will it have warranty then?
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You won't get a Factory Warranty however you can purchase a warranty here.
https://www.cpscentral.com/

[Q] 7T Pro U.S. Availability?

So what is the best way to get the 7T Pro in the U.S.? I'm on Verizon so I need a unlocked model. Sounds like Oneplus isn't officially releasing this phone in the U.S. anytime soon.
JeffBea said:
So what is the best way to get the 7T Pro in the U.S.? I'm on Verizon so I need a unlocked model. Sounds like Oneplus isn't officially releasing this phone in the U.S. anytime soon.
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I managed to purchase a Chinese version of the 7T Pro that's unlocked on eBay -- but I don't know how to convert it to a global or EU version.
Apparently the 7T Pro is getting a T-Mobile exclusive US release. Hoping that the exclusivity is for carrier sales only since I'd also like one on Verizon.
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I'm super confused with Root/ROMS & different models

I bought a 7T Pro Mclaren 5G a while back off eBay, it was the T-Mobile 5G model and I live in Canada, so when I got it, I tried to unlock it and couldn't, after a long back and forth with the seller, I ended up finding out from T-Mobile that the phone was reported lost/stolen so I had to make an eBay claim, got my money back, and I was going to buy another one, but then I found the Nubia Red Magic 5G so I decided to wait it out until that released since on paper it has better specs for less, turns out it's an absolutely horrible phone and I'm sending it back because nothing works and you're locked out of changing anything.. but back on topic.
Once I get the refund from Nubia, I want to buy another OnePlus 7T Pro, I would prefer another Mclaren model and I like the way that one looks more, however, I'm even more confused now that I'm looking into root/roms for it.
Canada doesn't have 5G yet, so there's no reason to get a 5G phone other than future proofing, but honestly 4G has been fine and I have no issues, so not having 5G isn't a deal breaker, and I noticed on the normal 7T Pro forum here, there's lots of root and rom threads for the non Mclaren phone, but the confusing part now, is the Mclarens actually had like 5 different models that I know of, the HD1910 (china model). HD1911(india model). HD1913 (europe model), HD1920 (europe 5G), and HD1925 (t-mobile 5G).
From what I've gathered, the HD1920/1925 are "hotdogg", and the HD1910/1911/1913 are "hotdog" so I have a few questions, given that there's basically zero support for root/roms on hotdogg, I want to buy a hotdog variant, the non-5G model, but this forum doesn't say anything about the non-5G Mclaren model being included or not, so is the Mclaren HD1910/1913 model the same as the normal 7T Pro HD1910/1913?
I was looking up differences on the HD1910 vs HD1913 and the only thing I've found according to some other forums and sites is that the HD1910 is just cheaper with different firmware, but the global firmware can be flashed on the HD1910, essentially making an HD1913 for cheaper? However I have not been able to find the HD1910 for cheaper with shipping to Canada, the HD1913 seems to be the cheapest option for me.
I'm going to be buying an HD1913, but, the question still stands, is the normal HD1913 the same as the Mclaren HD1913? The only thing I found between them is the Mclaren has 12GB RAM, so would this cause issues with root/roms if I use root/roms designed for the normal 8GB RAM HD1913?
Any info is appreciated.
VeeDaub said:
I bought a 7T Pro Mclaren 5G a while back off eBay, it was the T-Mobile 5G model and I live in Canada, so when I got it, I tried to unlock it and couldn't, after a long back and forth with the seller, I ended up finding out from T-Mobile that the phone was reported lost/stolen so I had to make an eBay claim, got my money back, and I was going to buy another one, but then I found the Nubia Red Magic 5G so I decided to wait it out until that released since on paper it has better specs for less, turns out it's an absolutely horrible phone and I'm sending it back because nothing works and you're locked out of changing anything.. but back on topic.
Once I get the refund from Nubia, I want to buy another OnePlus 7T Pro, I would prefer another Mclaren model and I like the way that one looks more, however, I'm even more confused now that I'm looking into root/roms for it.
Canada doesn't have 5G yet, so there's no reason to get a 5G phone other than future proofing, but honestly 4G has been fine and I have no issues, so not having 5G isn't a deal breaker, and I noticed on the normal 7T Pro forum here, there's lots of root and rom threads for the non Mclaren phone, but the confusing part now, is the Mclarens actually had like 5 different models that I know of, the HD1910 (china model). HD1911(india model). HD1913 (europe model), HD1920 (europe 5G), and HD1925 (t-mobile 5G).
From what I've gathered, the HD1920/1925 are "hotdogg", and the HD1910/1911/1913 are "hotdog" so I have a few questions, given that there's basically zero support for root/roms on hotdogg, I want to buy a hotdog variant, the non-5G model, but this forum doesn't say anything about the non-5G Mclaren model being included or not, so is the Mclaren HD1910/1913 model the same as the normal 7T Pro HD1910/1913?
I was looking up differences on the HD1910 vs HD1913 and the only thing I've found according to some other forums and sites is that the HD1910 is just cheaper with different firmware, but the global firmware can be flashed on the HD1910, essentially making an HD1913 for cheaper? However I have not been able to find the HD1910 for cheaper with shipping to Canada, the HD1913 seems to be the cheapest option for me.
I'm going to be buying an HD1913, but, the question still stands, is the normal HD1913 the same as the Mclaren HD1913? The only thing I found between them is the Mclaren has 12GB RAM, so would this cause issues with root/roms if I use root/roms designed for the normal 8GB RAM HD1913?
Any info is appreciated.
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There are two McLaren editions afaik. The T-Mobile branded one and the international one. There was a serious issue with updating OOS firmwares when unlocking the bootloader on the T-Mobile devices.
I'm not sure if all custom ROMs are supported on the McLaren edition unfortunately. Also the back of the McLaren edition has far more text on the back as the pictures suggest. Look here: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61VYQo5lEuL._SL1600_.jpg
Macusercom said:
There are two McLaren editions afaik. The T-Mobile branded one and the international one.
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The HD1920 is the Internation 5G, and the HD1925 is the T-Mobile 5G, but there are also the three other non-5G models, the HD1910/1911/1913, and I'm looking at an HD1913, so that's the non-5G international model, I just don't know if having 12GB of RAM is going to cause issues if I try to root it using tools for the normal 8GB RAM HD1913 and same goes for standard 8GB RAM HD1913 specific roms, can they run on the 12GB RAM HD1913?
I'm just confused because the "Mclaren model" (hd1920/1925) has it's own forum on here, but everything there only mentions the 5G models, nothing about the non-5g Mclaren hd1910/1911/1913, and over here in the non-5G section for the hd1910/1911/1913, there's nothing about the non-5G Mclaren models, so is this phone just compatible with the normal hd1913 stuff because they're the same model number, or does having an extra 4GB of RAM actually make it different resulting in root tools and roms not working? I'm so many confused lol
From what i know is that the International NON 5G McLaren (HD1913, i own this model and i am in the Netherlands) can be seen as a normal Oneplus 7T Pro... Oneplus customer service confirmed this for me.
The OnePlus support page has a download section for roms for all of their devices, but McLaren was not present in this list. They confirmed that i can flash the 7T Pro firmware and the hardware should handle itself, and the extras like the boot animation and themes are stored somewhere within the hardware so you'll keep those as well.
In case of rooting, i think you can use the tools for it as most probably magisk is used and a patched boot img will be made and flashed from your existing firmware. However i have mayor trust issues so i did it myself, used fastboot and adb commands to pull the boot.img and patch it in magisk manager and flash it via fastboot. Just make sure after each OTA to use magisk manager and flash magisk to the inactive slot so you'll keep root after reboot.
Check this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnePlus_7T
VeeDaub said:
I bought a 7T Pro Mclaren 5G a while back off eBay, it was the T-Mobile 5G model and I live in Canada, so when I got it, I tried to unlock it and couldn't, after a long back and forth with the seller, I ended up finding out from T-Mobile that the phone was reported lost/stolen so I had to make an eBay claim, got my money back, and I was going to buy another one, but then I found the Nubia Red Magic 5G so I decided to wait it out until that released since on paper it has better specs for less, turns out it's an absolutely horrible phone and I'm sending it back because nothing works and you're locked out of changing anything.. but back on topic.
Once I get the refund from Nubia, I want to buy another OnePlus 7T Pro, I would prefer another Mclaren model and I like the way that one looks more, however, I'm even more confused now that I'm looking into root/roms for it.
Canada doesn't have 5G yet, so there's no reason to get a 5G phone other than future proofing, but honestly 4G has been fine and I have no issues, so not having 5G isn't a deal breaker, and I noticed on the normal 7T Pro forum here, there's lots of root and rom threads for the non Mclaren phone, but the confusing part now, is the Mclarens actually had like 5 different models that I know of, the HD1910 (china model). HD1911(india model). HD1913 (europe model), HD1920 (europe 5G), and HD1925 (t-mobile 5G).
From what I've gathered, the HD1920/1925 are "hotdogg", and the HD1910/1911/1913 are "hotdog" so I have a few questions, given that there's basically zero support for root/roms on hotdogg, I want to buy a hotdog variant, the non-5G model, but this forum doesn't say anything about the non-5G Mclaren model being included or not, so is the Mclaren HD1910/1913 model the same as the normal 7T Pro HD1910/1913?
I was looking up differences on the HD1910 vs HD1913 and the only thing I've found according to some other forums and sites is that the HD1910 is just cheaper with different firmware, but the global firmware can be flashed on the HD1910, essentially making an HD1913 for cheaper? However I have not been able to find the HD1910 for cheaper with shipping to Canada, the HD1913 seems to be the cheapest option for me.
I'm going to be buying an HD1913, but, the question still stands, is the normal HD1913 the same as the Mclaren HD1913? The only thing I found between them is the Mclaren has 12GB RAM, so would this cause issues with root/roms if I use root/roms designed for the normal 8GB RAM HD1913?
Any info is appreciated.
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I have the op 7tpro hd1910 non 5g and all custom ROMs from the 7tpro thread work on it. Some mods ex renovate ice work on the 5g models as of 3 days ago, but not all custom ROMs support 5g models
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From what i know is that the International NON 5G McLaren (HD1913, i own this model and i am in the Netherlands) can be seen as a normal Oneplus 7T Pro... Oneplus customer service confirmed this for me.
The OnePlus support page has a download section for roms for all of their devices, but McLaren was not present in this list. They confirmed that i can flash the 7T Pro firmware and the hardware should handle itself, and the extras like the boot animation and themes are stored somewhere within the hardware so you'll keep those as well.
In case of rooting, i think you can use the tools for it as most probably magisk is used and a patched boot img will be made and flashed from your existing firmware. However i have mayor trust issues so i did it myself, used fastboot and adb commands to pull the boot.img and patch it in magisk manager and flash it via fastboot. Just make sure after each OTA to use magisk manager and flash magisk to the inactive slot so you'll keep root after reboot.
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Okay awesome, this is exactly what I needed to know, I feel a lot more confident about buying the non-5G one now, thanks!
I'd rather wait out the whole situation about 5G and what it's dangers are for your health, as everyone is spitting out rumours about it (talking about the amount of radiation it sends out and that stuff, not the 5G causes corona bull****). Besides it will take some time for 5G coverage, just like it did with 4G so getting a device right with it in an area that is not covered yet is a bit waste of money... For me 4G is fast enough.
5G will most likely also cost you a lot more money each month.
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Okay awesome, this is exactly what I needed to know, I feel a lot more confident about buying the non-5G one now, thanks!
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its the peanut said:
I'd rather wait out the whole situation about 5G and what it's dangers are for your health, as everyone is spitting out rumours about it (talking about the amount of radiation it sends out and that stuff, not the 5G causes corona bull****). Besides it will take some time for 5G coverage, just like it did with 4G so getting a device right with it in an area that is not covered yet is a bit waste of money... For me 4G is fast enough.
5G will most likely also cost you a lot more money each month.
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Tbh 5G is a standard that includes different frequencies. If any concern can even be valid, it is millimeter wave as the other frequencies are already deployed.
And even in this spectrum it isn't harmful at all. Keep in mind we absorb slight space radiation all the time. Keeping a high wattage (I'm talking about 50W+ radiation close to your reproduction organs will do harm but that's a whole other kind of scale).
It is unfortunate that people often try to pinpoint the first thing they hear like Corona caused by 5G. It is important to remember how everything works and what is plausible and what not
Perhaps 5G isn't that harmful, i still keep my caution as i haven't had the time to inform myself fully yet... Just viewing articles that come by during lunch hours.
My first thoughts from hearing the news about people setting cellphone towers on fire because of 5G causing Corona... Wich deactivated and damaged the tower and the use of emergency numbers... What an absolute ********.
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Tbh 5G is a standard that includes different frequencies. If any concern can even be valid, it is millimeter wave as the other frequencies are already deployed.
And even in this spectrum it isn't harmful at all. Keep in mind we absorb slight space radiation all the time. Keeping a high wattage (I'm talking about 50W+ radiation close to your reproduction organs will do harm but that's a whole other kind of scale).
It is unfortunate that people often try to pinpoint the first thing they hear like Corona caused by 5G. It is important to remember how everything works and what is plausible and what not
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Yeah I'm not after the 5G at all, 4G has been more than fast enough for what I use a phone for. Plus, Canada doesn't even have 5G yet, that's why I'm looking for a non-5G OnePlus 7T Pro Mclaren, no point paying more for the 5G model and lose some functionality to root/roms for a service that isn't even provided yet.
As for the whole 5G thing, I think the main concern behind it was people not understanding that 5G ranges from like 24MHz to 300MHz, and it's about the frequency. So a RADIOwave goes up to I think around 1GHz, and MICROwave frequency is like 1GHz to around 300GHz. and some microwaves operate at around 2.45GHz, so already your standard wifi router in your house is already spitting out microwaves from 2.4GHz to 60GHz depending on what model you have and what frequencies you're using, the difference is the wattage, a router is basically nothing in comparison to an actual microwave oven that cooks food, those can go up to 700w for a normal household model, even more for industrial models.
So basically, we're already exposed to microwaves everyday, the wattage is just so low that it doesn't cause us any hard, and even if it would over a long period of time, our immune systems can rebuild faster than the radiation can cause harm, same as getting x-rays at the dentist, harmful, but our bodies are stronger. It doesn't cause any concern at all. Now there's known information that the US Military uses 95GHz with a custom panel that's attached to Hummers for crowd control to break up riots. The difference is that people think that the 95GHz range the military uses which is proven to produce enough microwave non-ionizing radiation to make rioters bodies uncomfortable, they over heat and get sick from heat stroke with too much exposure causing them to stop rioting, it's not life threatening and tests have shown no signs of skin cancer as a result, but it's aggressive enough to work.
The issue though, is that when people see 5G going from 24GHz to 300GHz and the military uses 95GHz for crowd control, people think that if 5G uses those higher frequencies it's capable of, it's going to cook everyone like a legit microwave oven. The only difference here is that ONE of those Hummers produces up to 2.5MEGAWATTS for a 2 second burst at full power using two diesel engine generators. So far all of the 5G towers that are being burned down, they don't have a diesel power plant at every tower, and each tower drawing power loads like that would overload the entire grid. So from everything I found when I was looking into why people are burning down towers is they just don't understand how low the wattage is on a 5G tower and there's people hyping up these hummers saying that 5G will cause you to die and Covid-19 is just a government cover up and it's actually 5G and all this other nonsense, but in reality, 5G is completely safe, if someone DID hook one up to a 2.5Mw source.. we might be in trouble lol
Now I'm not saying it's SAFE, like, end all game. There were studies in Germany about just cell phone towers in general, they did a test with like 1000 people in a 400m radius of cell phone towers and the people closer to the towers were 50% more likely to get cancer from testing, and 10% observed cancer right at the towers, but this is also over the span of a 10 year test. So, ALL cell phone towers cause cancer, it's just a matter of how close you live to one and how long you've lived there, and even then, you have a 90% chance of not getting cancer, so the risks are still low. Not comforting, but low enough that I wouldn't start losing sleep over.
Here in The Netherlands we don't have 5G either, but it is planned for this summer (which is cancelled this year). There are phones already out with the specs ready... And even if it was already supported, i am not willing to pay 10 to 20 euros a month more for the speed i am not gonna use.
But does Canada only have the 5G variant in the stores? Or is the phone not available at all?
As far as i knew the concern here was that it would cause cancer or certain health issues in the long term, as it would need more transmitters/towers to cover the area for certain frequencies. I never believed in the first place it would be extremely harmful. What i do know is the closer you live to one off the towers, the more chance you get of developing cancer and a few other things. Besides, i have a high end router in my bedroom and i am not dead yet.... Maybe i should move closer to a tower so it would go quicker....
Governments do stupid stuff... but i believe they would not allow a network to be installed that would be that dangerous, or keep installed if things do turn for the worse.
I also believe that this is going too off topic that eventually a mod will warn us
bANONYMOUS said:
Yeah I'm not after the 5G at all, 4G has been more than fast enough for what I use a phone for. Plus, Canada doesn't even have 5G yet, that's why I'm looking for a non-5G OnePlus 7T Pro Mclaren, no point paying more for the 5G model and lose some functionality to root/roms for a service that isn't even provided yet.
As for the whole 5G thing, I think the main concern behind it was people not understanding that 5G ranges from like 24MHz to 300MHz, and it's about the frequency. So a RADIOwave goes up to I think around 1GHz, and MICROwave frequency is like 1GHz to around 300GHz. and some microwaves operate at around 2.45GHz, so already your standard wifi router in your house is already spitting out microwaves from 2.4GHz to 60GHz depending on what model you have and what frequencies you're using, the difference is the wattage, a router is basically nothing in comparison to an actual microwave oven that cooks food, those can go up to 700w for a normal household model, even more for industrial models.
So basically, we're already exposed to microwaves everyday, the wattage is just so low that it doesn't cause us any hard, and even if it would over a long period of time, our immune systems can rebuild faster than the radiation can cause harm, same as getting x-rays at the dentist, harmful, but our bodies are stronger. It doesn't cause any concern at all. Now there's known information that the US Military uses 95GHz with a custom panel that's attached to Hummers for crowd control to break up riots. The difference is that people think that the 95GHz range the military uses which is proven to produce enough microwave non-ionizing radiation to make rioters bodies uncomfortable, they over heat and get sick from heat stroke with too much exposure causing them to stop rioting, it's not life threatening and tests have shown no signs of skin cancer as a result, but it's aggressive enough to work.
The issue though, is that when people see 5G going from 24GHz to 300GHz and the military uses 95GHz for crowd control, people think that if 5G uses those higher frequencies it's capable of, it's going to cook everyone like a legit microwave oven. The only difference here is that ONE of those Hummers produces up to 2.5MEGAWATTS for a 2 second burst at full power using two diesel engine generators. So far all of the 5G towers that are being burned down, they don't have a diesel power plant at every tower, and each tower drawing power loads like that would overload the entire grid. So from everything I found when I was looking into why people are burning down towers is they just don't understand how low the wattage is on a 5G tower and there's people hyping up these hummers saying that 5G will cause you to die and Covid-19 is just a government cover up and it's actually 5G and all this other nonsense, but in reality, 5G is completely safe, if someone DID hook one up to a 2.5Mw source.. we might be in trouble lol
Now I'm not saying it's SAFE, like, end all game. There were studies in Germany about just cell phone towers in general, they did a test with like 1000 people in a 400m radius of cell phone towers and the people closer to the towers were 50% more likely to get cancer from testing, and 10% observed cancer right at the towers, but this is also over the span of a 10 year test. So, ALL cell phone towers cause cancer, it's just a matter of how close you live to one and how long you've lived there, and even then, you have a 90% chance of not getting cancer, so the risks are still low. Not comforting, but low enough that I wouldn't start losing sleep over.
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Question OnePlus Nord N20 5G availability outside of the US?

Do any of you know if or when this might be released in the EU or UK, or even outside of the US?
Alternatively, is it possible to unlock this device if imported from the US?
I can't find the answer to unlock it either
no, it looks like this will be a USA only model. but there is the nord 2 ce lite with the exact same hardware with a different size screen for european release. in fact the oneplus app detects the nord n20 as the nord 2 ce lite
@PsYk0n4uT the hardware is the same but the design is ugly. The USA model is not ugly.

What are these 256GB LG v60's?

Hello I found 256 GB LG v60's on aliexpress with excellent reviews from people using them around the world. They come in T-mobile and Verizon variant firmwares. I asked the seller to clarify and here is my message:
hello I know a lot about these phones and have a question. The v600n korean is the 256GB model. Your selling V600TM as a 256GB model. That is T-mobile firmware thats been crossflashed over the korean firmware? Is this correct or is the original T-mobile 256GB variant thats very rare? I just know there are officially only 3 variants that came with 256GB. The EA european worldwide international, the korean unreleased v600n, and the very rare T-mobile 256GB variant. So your 256GB models are most likely the v600n variant thats been crossflashed. Can you please confirm if this is accurate? I just want to know exactly what I'm buying since I will be bootloader unlocking and rooting it. Thank you so much. I'm happy with it being the korean v600n thats been crossflashed. I just want to understand better. Thank you very much.
Same thing is found on ebay for an extra $100 with good reviews:
LG V60 THINQ 5G LMV600TM/LMV600VML 8gb 128/256gb Octa-Core 6.8" Fingerprint NFC | eBay
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for LG V60 THINQ 5G LMV600TM/LMV600VML 8gb 128/256gb Octa-Core 6.8" Fingerprint NFC at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com
I just have read that the korean v600n can have issues when crossflashed to the international EA firmware. So I'm curious if he used the v600n motherboards how exactly he crossflashed them to be working so well. Thanks for any input.
tylerwright606 said:
Hello I found 256 GB LG v60's on aliexpress with excellent reviews from people using them around the world. They come in T-mobile and Verizon variant firmwares. I asked the seller to clarify and here is my message:
hello I know a lot about these phones and have a question. The v600n korean is the 256GB model. Your selling V600TM as a 256GB model. That is T-mobile firmware thats been crossflashed over the korean firmware? Is this correct or is the original T-mobile 256GB variant thats very rare? I just know there are officially only 3 variants that came with 256GB. The EA european worldwide international, the korean unreleased v600n, and the very rare T-mobile 256GB variant. So your 256GB models are most likely the v600n variant thats been crossflashed. Can you please confirm if this is accurate? I just want to know exactly what I'm buying since I will be bootloader unlocking and rooting it. Thank you so much. I'm happy with it being the korean v600n thats been crossflashed. I just want to understand better. Thank you very much.
Same thing is found on ebay for an extra $100 with good reviews:
LG V60 THINQ 5G LMV600TM/LMV600VML 8gb 128/256gb Octa-Core 6.8" Fingerprint NFC | eBay
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for LG V60 THINQ 5G LMV600TM/LMV600VML 8gb 128/256gb Octa-Core 6.8" Fingerprint NFC at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com
I just have read that the korean v600n can have issues when crossflashed to the international EA firmware. So I'm curious if he used the v600n motherboards how exactly he crossflashed them to be working so well. Thanks for any input.
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https://m.vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005001960182831.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2vnm
That is the link to the 256GB models on aliexpress. Im just so curious what they originally were but they must have been the korean v600n that was crossflashed. I'm debating buying just a motherboard and putting it into my mint condition at&t LG v60 while also repairing its charging port and seeing how that goes.

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