After updating to Android 11 I've noticed my device seems to heat up all the time like something is working in the background. I did a FDR and setup as a new device. Even after the reset, the device seems to heat up still. Any suggestions on what to try?
Look at the attachments it's weird one says 2hrs 20 mins screen in time and the other says 4hrs 26 mins.
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Look at the attachments it's weird one says 2hrs 20 mins screen in time and the other says 4hrs 26 mins.
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Same problem here! After the update, phone runs hot and battery drains while charging!
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Same problem here! After the update, phone runs hot and battery drains while charging!
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Well, hopefully they release a supplemental update to address the issue. I love Android 11 otherwise. Does your phone have a random glitch with messenger or any app where you can open photos to attach or something and have to close the app then reopen and it works?
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Well, hopefully they release a supplemental update to address the issue. I love Android 11 otherwise. Does your phone have a random glitch with messenger or any app where you can open photos to attach or something and have to close the app then reopen and it works?
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I have not had that issue yet. It is laggy. There is also an "out of focus/blur" screen when it transitions from screen to screen, or should I say, app to app. It appears intentional, like a transition between scenes in a movie, but there is no point to it. The phone used to just switch screens. Now there is a transitional screen. Like the "red loading bar" of old.
I am just very disappointed with LG. and the V series. I have had most of them starting with the V10.
Sometimes I long for the old times when if you did not like the OS, you rolled back to an older version or flashed someone else's ROM onto your phone.
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Look at the attachments it's weird one says 2hrs 20 mins screen in time and the other says 4hrs 26 mins.
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Mine says 37% Battery consumed by Android System. that is insane.
BlackKnight23 said:
After updating to Android 11 I've noticed my device seems to heat up all the time like something is working in the background. I did a FDR and setup as a new device. Even after the reset, the device seems to heat up still. Any suggestions on what to try?
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I think we just need to go Samsung! Lol! Seriously, this sucks! Charged my phone twice today after taking it off the charger at 6AM. At Noon I was at 21% and again at 5pm I was at 15%. Crazy!
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I think we just need to go Samsung! Lol! Seriously, this sucks! Charged my phone twice today after taking it off the charger at 6AM. At Noon I was at 21% and again at 5pm I was at 15%. Crazy!
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How about no! Lol. I have a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G there's a reason it not my daily. Samsung still needs a lot to mature it's a huge improvement but still leaking key Android features. LG isn't perfect but it keeps the great core Android features i.e. Seemless updates, more support for Google built in features and etc.
This is mine, looks how the screen times don't match.
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How about no! Lol. I have a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G there's a reason it not my daily. Samsung still needs a lot to mature it's a huge improvement but still leaking key Android features. LG isn't perfect but it keeps the great core Android features i.e. Seemless updates, more support for Google built in features and etc.
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Which was why I went to LG a few years back.
Still, this is a major problem. My phone feels like a hot potato in my pocket and I am sure I will have to charge it in 5 or 6 hours.
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How about no! Lol. I have a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G there's a reason it not my daily. Samsung still needs a lot to mature it's a huge improvement but still leaking key Android features. LG isn't perfect but it keeps the great core Android features i.e. Seemless updates, more support for Google built in features and etc.
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As an LG fan and owner of a Galaxy S21 Ultra, I can say that the Samsung is miles ahead of LG at this point.
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As an LG fan and owner of a Galaxy S21 Ultra, I can say that the Samsung is miles ahead of LG at this point.
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I can agree, hardware wise not entirely software. One has good things about software and the other has good things.
Anyone else having system ui crashes whenever they pull down the notification shade? I guess been a bug on several Android 11 phones: OnePlus, Pixel, Samsung
I reached out to LG, they said to do a FDR (factory data reset) and if that did not resolve the issues to send the phone in for repair (since I am still under warrenty).
I'm on AT&T and updated to Android 11 earlier this week. It resulted in a black screen soft-brick. I could still see the touches (from dev mode) where fingers tapped the screen. And if I held down the Power button, I'd see the typical Power Down / Restart / Etc. options, and tapping on them would generate the appropriate responses. But in all other instances, it was just a black screen. I figured my HEAVY de-bloating of Android 10 when I first got the phone caused something to break.
So I went ahead and did a full factory restore using recovery/safe mode and set it up as a new phone, and haven't had any serious issues since. I went ahead and got almost everything (minus Fluid Navigation Gestures, RIP) working the way I wanted, and embarked on another HEAVY de-bloating process. Seems like I took things too far, because, upon my next reboot, I was in the exact same black screen soft-brick state I mentioned above.
Another factory reset. Another session of restoring my apps, launcher, settings, and customizations. This time, I just used Package Disabler Pro for LG from the Google Play Store to perform some more restrained bloatware disabling, and everything's been pretty great. For Android 10 and the first attempt at de-bloating Android 11, I was using ADB commands to "uninstall" dozens upon dozens of system apps. Battery life is not quite as good as it was with my heavily de-bloated Android 10 environment, but I didn't expect it to be, and I'm not going to risk messing this all up again.
My only complaint is that stock AOD (and Sidelight Notifications) don't seem to be working properly, no matter how I configure them in Settings. I'm not sure what's causing the issue, but I actually developed this problem just a few days BEFORE the AT&T OTA landed, and it's persisted through a full Android point upgrade and two factory resets, so I imagine there's a conflict somewhere. Maybe with Fluid Simulation - Trippy Stress Reliever (my live wallpaper app of choice), Energy Bar, or Nova Launcher. I haven't been able to pinpoint it yet, but since it predates the Android 11 OTA by a few days, there must be another cause.
I do miss Fluid Navigation Gestures, but I'm happy to report that the new Android 11 gestures are way better than Android 10's. Not quite as customized as I had FNG, but I've adapted. Until/unless someone figures out how to hide the navigation bar without root, LG's gestures it is, I guess.
I have a Verizon V60 and since the update the processor is pegged to 100% utilization after just a few minutes of listening to YouTube music. Nothing I do will drop the utilization down besides a reboot. Again, after a few minutes, same thing. That's what you guys are seeing. I did a factory reset thinking that might fix it. It didn't. I restored all of my apps, but not my data just to be sure that nothing weird was causing issues. Even after the restore, the CPU was pegged at 100%.
Long story short, the SW is bugged. So was 10 (voice commands broken with Maps in Incognito mode for example). I've wanted to switch to this phone as my daily for a while from my Galaxy S10, but LG keeps dropping the ball.
Regarding the Samsung, it has significantly more features and regular updates. There is no comparison, frankly. I only like the LG for the form factor, large battery, speed and head phone jack amp. Otherwise, the S10 is just a better phone. This reminds me why I stopped buying Motorola phones. Buggy updates with broken core functionality.
I bought a V50 based on the positive reviews, and I ultimately sold it due to bugs (Android Auto was an absolute mess). The V60 has been better, but still far from perfect. I find phone reviews absolutely worthless as those people seem to restrict their usage to social media and photography. When it comes to using it as an actual phone, silence.
Sorry for the long rant. I will give LG another month to see if they fix this issue. Otherwise, I'm selling this phone and will never buy another LG.
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Anyone else having system ui crashes whenever they pull down the notification shade? I guess been a bug on several Android 11 phones: OnePlus, Pixel, Samsung
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Not on an LG V60, but I've got serious other issues I'm here about.
I don't usually post here, but gotten a ton of great info here over the years, including rooting a couple phones. Thank you to all who contribute.
Since the update I've found three of my favcorite apps, all paid for, afflicted with issues that range from a couple cosmetic glitches in AccuBattery, to one app that's completely unusable. I've done one factory reset since the update.
I have a support ticket opened for the worst one; Radio Paradise's streaming app, the beta version (only one of these in beta). After clearing its cache and data, then uninstalling, then restarting (power off/>10 seconds pause/on), then reinstalling, I can sometimes get a connection and start downloading music, streaming or caching. But just once. Then it won't reconnect to the streams at all.
The other one, Weather Underground's app, now won't even start. But the notification seems fine keeping time and temp on schedule. Try to start the app and it immediately shuts down.
All three of these apps, including the RP Betas, have been solid for a year (one attraction) and all run fine on an old V10 and V30 still on the wifi. Have for years.
If this gibes with anyone else's experiance I'd like to hear about it, I haven't found these kinds of complaints anywhere. My Spidey sense suggests a possible permissioning issue but I'm not sure.
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Great phone, but has anyone else had bad operating system luck? Seems like my phone is freezing and/or locking up daily, and needs to be re-booted. If it were windows I'd call it a BSOD incident. My S3 running Paranoid Android nightlies was even more stable than this.
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I am not having problems like you report at all. The only lockups I had were during the brief period when I ran under ART, and they went away completely after I switched back to Dalvik. Note that under ART my G3 got really hot...
That is what I think is causing most of these phones troubles. I think they were designed in a way that is prone to overheating issues. I also think the designers tried their best to avoid overheating through throttling - which causes some performance degradation, and doesn't always work anyway.
Minor assembly differences could be causing major differences in how different G3s heat-load. This could explain why some owners who have reported lockup issues like yours have gotten much improvement by exchanging their phone, which is what I suggest you do if you can.
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Great phone, but has anyone else had bad operating system luck? Seems like my phone is freezing and/or locking up daily, and needs to be re-booted. If it were windows I'd call it a BSOD incident. My S3 running Paranoid Android nightlies was even more stable than this.
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I agree with Trent. Seems some G3s just don't run well. Mine runs great. I have it rooted with xposed and have removed the bloat and no issues at all. I couldn't be happier.
I've even played some games for the first time on my smartphone including Asphalt 8 and I've played it for about an hour non stop the other night while I had time to kill and still no issues, the game played great, phone didn't heat up and get laggy.... Nothing. It just played.
Hard to say really what's causing the issues for some, could be a funky device, maybe a factory reset would help... Maybe people also should take a look at what apps and widgets they have running as well prior to thinking the phone is junk lol not saying that's you, just an idea
- Tapatalked from the G3
moonfarm said:
Good afternoon-
Great phone, but has anyone else had bad operating system luck? Seems like my phone is freezing and/or locking up daily, and needs to be re-booted. If it were windows I'd call it a BSOD incident. My S3 running Paranoid Android nightlies was even more stable than this.
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No problems with mine.
What apps and widget are you using?
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No problems with mine.
What apps and widget are you using?
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It's a pretty random problem, hasn't happened for a couple of days. I run a pretty lean system, not a lot of apps or widgets. Maybe getting rid of some bloat would help. Thanks all, nice to know it's not something everyone is going through. I'm enjoying the phone more than I thought I would, been on the S series since the first Galaxy Fascinate, so this was a bit of a leap. The combo of Knox and Touchwiz did me in...
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I'm wondering if the accessibility service has anything to do with these random shutdowns. I've never turned on ART, but with several xposed mods, tweaksbox, and some debloating, my phone seemed stable for the first few weeks I owned it. One day I had a random reboot. It didn't happen again for a week or so, and then it happened once more. A few days later I noticed one of my tasker scripts (which reroutes gmail notification sounds through the headset iff the headset is connected) wasn't working. I checked the tasker accessibility service and it had turned itself off. After re-enabling it, my random shutdowns soon returned.
Anyone care to try ART with all accessibility services uninstalled? This would include talkback.
So i got my s8 a few days ago (yay) and noticed some of its horrendous issues within an hour of usage, so i started looking around for fixes and stumbled upon Eragon (Rom) and have been attempting to get that on to my phone with no luck. I have little to no experience messing around with phones. I followed the guide per Skeleton1911 and can't even get the Vcom driver's working properly. Pretty frustrated and confused at this point and decided to reach out for help/advice. Or any possible alternatives.
What issues are you experiencing that you hope will be solved by this ROM?
I only ask because it might be a hardware issue and therefore a sign to return the phone for a replacement from your vendor while that's still an option.
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What issues are you experiencing that you hope will be solved by this ROM?
I only ask because it might be a hardware issue and therefore a sign to return the phone for a replacement from your vendor while that's still an option.
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4g connectivity seems to be pretty bad/unstable. Battery life is pretty meh. Most if not all of the issue with this phone is pretty much fixed by the Eragon rom hence why I'm trying so hard to get it installed.
the 4g connectivity along with the battery life a very lack luster, which are some of the fixes that come with Eragon.
OK, fair enough. I do understand battery life is improved under Eragon, and OS RAM usage is reduced.
I just read 'horrendous issues' and wondered what that meant exactly, as I've found the battery life on stock to be reasonably OK. The only 'horrendous' issues, in my experience, are the camera and the GPS, neither of which are changed or improved on Eragon. But we all have our personal measurements for such things.
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OK, fair enough. I do understand battery life is improved under Eragon, and OS RAM usage is reduced.
I just read 'horrendous issues' and wondered what that meant exactly, as I've found the battery life on stock to be reasonably OK. The only 'horrendous' issues, in my experience, are the camera and the GPS, neither of which are changed or improved on Eragon. But we all have our personal measurements for such things.
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I can't confirm battery improvement with eragon rom. After a few weeks I had a massive battery drain of about 15% per hour without any heavy usage. The phone was in my pocket with wifi and bluetooth active. I didn't install any new apps and I already I flashed cache and dalvik. The only thing that helped was getting back to stock. Now battery is back to normal and I don't experience any major differences in performance, multitasking or ram usage.
A good example of just how different people's experiences can be, depending on their usage patterns and which set of apps they have installed. Thanks for sharing your experience, Steve.
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A good example of just how different people's experiences can be, depending on their usage patterns and which set of apps they have installed. Thanks for sharing your experience, Steve.
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It seems a matter of luck if you get a full working s8 or not. Maybe there are different builds, depending on where ist was made.
I am using gps from the first day without any problems, no matter if on stock or eragon rom. My s8 just gets warm when playing games but not hot. I think the perfomance is good (no matter which rom) but I would have expected a much higher antutu score from a deca-core chipset and 4gb ram. The battery performance is not better or worse (on stock rom) compared to my earlier smartphones like the oneplus one. I expected the lack of support from the elephone company just as it is, so I am not disappopinted at this point.
I think it's also worth keeping in mind that people are more likely to post when something goes wrong than when something goes as expected, so folks with a defective item are more likely to post complaints than someone who's phone just works.
That being said, I do expect quality control at a third-tier device manufacturer will not be as good as at one of the major players.
And yeah, the big battery is just there to provide adequate battery life despite the huge screen. In my usage, even with the brightness turned down, the screen accounts for 75% of my battery usage on average.
It's a great screen for a cheap phone like this, but it is a trade-off. No such thing as a free lunch.
Finally! Some people are talking sense here and not just complaining about their devices.
For me, I think it's pointless to compare this phone with flagship devices. You can't just say that "on my one plus/galaxy..." because you paid better bucks for those so they got to be damn better!
I have not got any complaints on my device because as I have read on another post here, "You sound set your expectations".
When you bought this, you have a certain use case and if the phone fulfills that, then the phone has already served its purpose.
Please don't expect our units to be top notch as the price won't allow that.
What kind of 4G issue was resolved by this ROM?
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the 4g connectivity along with the battery life a very lack luster, which are some of the fixes that come with Eragon.
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Can you explain what kind of 4G issues it resolves
After doing some research I found out that the ROM will NOT fix network issues.
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For what it is worth, from the Elephone forum today.
ashish replied at 2018-2-17 03:58 AM
"Plz update the android as almost every compay providing android oreo update but elephone s8 still ha ...
got this on Facebook .
(we do our best to release an oreo update for the S8 as fast as possible. Did you know, that our biggest competitor, that charges 3-4x the price of our S8, just canceled their release of Android 8.0 for their newest device? Google the news Why? Because their update was rushed and released way to early, causing a lot of trouble to many users. Do you want that to happen? We don't. That's why our update will only be released when it's done and can deliver a flawless experience to ALL users of the S8. Therefore we kindly ask for your patience. Have a nice day, your ELEPHONE Team)"
It is true many of the big players have pulled or cancelled their Oreo updates in the last few weeks. Be nice if Ele would try another 7.x update with another attempt to fix the camera though.
I suspect that their dev team has its hands full trying to get everything they got wrong on 7.x right on 8. And I doubt they have the resources to have two teams working on S8 firmware development.
Just my edjumakated guess, mind you. ?
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the camera and the GPS, neither of which are changed or improved on Eragon. But we all have our personal measurements for such things.
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so it's normal thing that GPS do't work and camera makes meh photos?
Also, is there an option that phone screen will turn on for a while when I'm receiving a notification? I know there is something like that in android but I couldn't find it. Sorry It's my first android phone and I just feel lost
I did not say the GPS did not work. If your GPS does not work at all, you should return your phone to the shop where you bought it. It's defective.
What I did say is that the GPS isn't great, as is par for the course on Mediatek based phones. If you need great GPS, this is not the phone for you.
Spend more money and buy something better, maybe with a Qualcomm chipset. Or buy a used last-gen flagship phone with good GPS performance.
As for the camera, it's crappy. All the reviews I've seen have pointed out the focus hunting. It's sub par and mostly a problem with the software.
That being said, yes, sub par cameras on cheap Chinese third tier OEM phones do tend to be sub par in one way or another. This one's just notably bad at the moment. Maybe always, if they don't eventually release another firmware for it.
And if this is your first Android phone, I can understand the confusion. Especally if you're coming from fruit phones, where everything just works on pretty much all of them.
This is a terrible first phone for most people. This is a pretty bad device for a novice, it's more of a hobbyist phone. But XDA is a place for that kind of crowd, so my comments were framed accordingly.
I really like it, but I knew what I was buying. I don't use the camera and only make occasional use of the GPS. And I make heavy use of the screen for watching videos and I am not a fan of 18:9. The S8 is a big win for me there.
You probably would have been better served, in this price range, by a Motorola phone, to be honest. If you're still within your exchange window, I would recommend swapping it for something more mainstream.
Best of luck!
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... is there an option that phone screen will turn on for a while when I'm receiving a notification? I know there is something like that in android but I couldn't find it. Sorry It's my first android phone and I just feel lost
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.nullgrad.glimpse
Install this and the screen will wake for notifications. You can also disable individual apps, like I did with Spotify, to prevent the screen from waking when listening to music on my Mac.
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Install this and the screen will wake for notifications. You can also disable individual apps, like I did with Spotify, to prevent the screen from waking when listening to music on my Mac.
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Thank you
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And if this is your first Android phone, I can understand the confusion. Especally if you're coming from fruit phones, where everything just works on pretty much all of them.
Best of luck!
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I'm not even from apple family. I'm one of old guard of Windows phone, and everyday I'm more and more surprised that android won this competition.
I have no chance for fully refund, since I already own it few months, but I see I need to contact a seller. But I think they'll reject it because I dropped it once, and I have beautiful spider web at back -.- (It's not very sturdy). I think I need to revive my lumia for gps usage.
New to elephone s8 but not new to Chinese smart phones. I was hoping this ROM fixed some issues but hasn't thus far. Phone constantly drops signal to point where i can't receive or make calls. Still trying to figure out if that is due to phone not support on my network or not. Which is odd cause at times phone is fine, flying speed full coverage others its the complete opposite. One other bug I was hoping it fixed was screen being unresponsive. Like i try to swipe up to unlock or use fingerprint but it just vibrates to acknowledge I touched it and does nothing. I am looking for work around before i get fed up and sell it or something. I really love the feel of phone physically and how software works when its working.
I am frustrated user of Note 8, received it early September 2017, been using without any issues until Oreo update arrived in May 2018.
Once phone was updated i have done factory restore and start clean, i have done same procedure twice as i am having the following issues running phone in high performance mode:
1. The phone used to run smooth in Power Saving Mode, now its sluggish
2. Pretty sure there is greater delay between finger print sensor reading and screen turning on
3. General UI laggy, in performance mode its no longer as snappy as it used to be
4. The edge panel can sometimes slide out but stutter on animation
5. Camera launching from the hard button press, can have delay or stutter to launch too
6. Battery feels like gotten worse
Anyone else can agree?
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I am frustrated user of Note 8, received it early September 2017, been using without any issues until Oreo update arrived in May 2018.
Once phone was updated i have done factory restore and start clean, i have done same procedure twice as i am having the following issues running phone in high performance mode:
1. The phone used to run smooth in Power Saving Mode, now its sluggish
2. Pretty sure there is greater delay between finger print sensor reading and screen turning on
3. General UI laggy, in performance mode its no longer as snappy as it used to be
4. The edge panel can sometimes slide out but stutter on animation
5. Camera launching from the hard button press, can have delay or stutter to launch too
6. Battery feels like gotten worse
Anyone else can agree?
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Nope! Oreo running smooth on my n8!
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Oreo running fantastic on my Note 8, not one complaint since day one,
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vadimo said:
I am frustrated user of Note 8, received it early September 2017, been using without any issues until Oreo update arrived in May 2018.
Once phone was updated i have done factory restore and start clean, i have done same procedure twice as i am having the following issues running phone in high performance mode:
1. The phone used to run smooth in Power Saving Mode, now its sluggish
2. Pretty sure there is greater delay between finger print sensor reading and screen turning on
3. General UI laggy, in performance mode its no longer as snappy as it used to be
4. The edge panel can sometimes slide out but stutter on animation
5. Camera launching from the hard button press, can have delay or stutter to launch too
6. Battery feels like gotten worse
Anyone else can agree?
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Are you on the original Oreo update?
Never had any problems...
I agree with OP. It has gotten worse. I use to go a full day without having to charge it. Now after Oreo, I'm at near 78% after 4 hrs of YouTube background play compared to 86 to 84% on nougat.
factory reset your phone. my battery and performance has only gotten better since 8.0.
Got to agree with everyone I'm on AT&T Note 8 running smoothly like butter no issues at all on Oreo.
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Are you on the original Oreo update?
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Yes, not rooted
Maybe it's different for me, my phone is unlocked, update came via Samsung direct.
Already reset my phone twice so won't be doing it again, just want it back how it was.
This is nonsense, Note 8 got better with every Oreo update month by month, everything is butter smooth and battery is better than Nougat.
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This is nonsense, Note 8 got better with every Oreo update month by month, everything is butter smooth and battery is better than Nougat.
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How is it nonsense? So because yours and others work fine, this person can't be having issues? Why do people keep making such ignorant statements without thinking things through?!
Others have had a bad experience with Oreo, and not just a handful(5).
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How is it nonsense? So because yours and others work fine, this person can't be having issues? Why do people keep making such ignorant statements without thinking things through?!
Others have had a bad experience with Oreo, and not just a handful(5).
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And i also agree with this :good:
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Are you on the original Oreo update?
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How is it nonsense? So because yours and others work fine, this person can't be having issues? Why do people keep making such ignorant statements without thinking things through?!
Others have had a bad experience with Oreo, and not just a handful(5).
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He is probably busy posting other nonsense replies.
Have you seen any similar threads to mine with resolution? I dont sign in here much anymore, partly due to Note 9 software been so good that I felt it needs no rooting and was happy with stock setup and apps from Google play store.
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I disagree. My Exynos N950F has still been smooth since the day I got it out of the box. I only got the base update to Oreo (possibly due to my CSC). My experience has been good so far. My phone has never been sluggish while playing games or multitasking using multi-window or App-Pair (whatever the feature is called in the GraceUI).
I'd suggest you backup, wipe (again), and restore your phone in increments until you find the root cause. I'm willing to bet that your issue is with an app that runs in the background. Are all your installs from the Google Play Store, and not APKs from questionable third parties?
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I disagree. My Exynos N950F has still been smooth since the day I got it out of the box. I only got the base update to Oreo (possibly due to my CSC). My experience has been good so far. My phone has never been sluggish while playing games or multitasking using multi-window or App-Pair (whatever the feature is called in the GraceUI).
I'd suggest you backup, wipe (again), and restore your phone in increments until you find the root cause. I'm willing to bet that your issue is with an app that runs in the background. Are all your installs from the Google Play Store, and not APKs from questionable third parties?
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As I said I won't be resetting for 3rd time, if it was dirty app I would of identified. If you are familiar with recent android features if got pretty at identifying bad apps too.
After each reset I gradually loadedvphone with apps and settings.
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Yes, not rooted
Maybe it's different for me, my phone is unlocked, update came via Samsung direct.
Already reset my phone twice so won't be doing it again, just want it back how it was.
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I'd flash latest full stock with Odin using full wipe. Better than factory reset for clearing out persistent issues. Aside from that not sure what else can be suggested. Oreo has been running great here with every OTA.
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As I said I won't be resetting for 3rd time, if it was dirty app I would of identified. If you are familiar with recent android features if got pretty at identifying bad apps too.
After each reset I gradually loadedvphone with apps and settings.
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I suggest downloading the firmware of the version you are currently on if you care about rooting in the future and flash it with Odin. Seems like you're on v3 bootloader based on your post. Go from that direction with testing.
I agree with the battery being worse. For me standby drain is way higher on Oreo. On N I would lose about 5% overnight. Now around 11-15%. Phone is smooth though
Yes I agree oreo is laggy and a battery hog on my at&t note 8. Other then the android version being different I see no visible ui changes vs 7.1.1. Why do they keep changing the bootloader? Dont understand that.
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Do you have a Snapdragon or Exynos device?
My Exynos N950F only drains 1% overnight, but I only got 1 update TO Oreo since I got my device (out of the box).
So here is the XDA article about the feature drop
June Feature Drop for Google Pixels includes At a Glance improvements, Pocket Operator, and more
The June feature drop for Google Pixel devices is now available, and you can install it on your smartphone. It has a ton of new features.
www.xda-developers.com
And it really does look kind of..... underwhelming? like nothing there is very useful or important at large.
But the update actually brought nice stuff.
Check this article for the main take on the feature drop
June Feature Drop appears to cure most of what ailed Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro units
Most Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro users have seen a big improvement in their handsets' cellular connectivity after installing the June Feature Drop.
www.phonearena.com
I myself have noticed improvements in the time to fingerprint unlock, network seems to be faster and more stable in comparison to March, and my network battery usage went down from being around 30% to around 5%!
So all in all I'm happy with this update even though it didn't seem meaningful at the beginning. It makes this phone more fine tuned and worth.
Have you-all noticed any improvements?
Are you feeling it's better then before?
Yes much better. One day in only but noticeable for sure.
The OTA update isn't showing up yet for me.
wilceaux said:
The OTA update isn't showing up yet for me.
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weird.. i suppose you also checked manually through the settings?
bobby janow said:
Yes much better. One day in only but noticeable for sure.
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I used the android flash tool it factory reset my phone but that's not big deal for me I restored my backup from Google one.
I have noticed the fingerprint sensor is working better my phone seems to not get as good reception but the network is also not using 30% anymore it more like 10 or 15 which is still high but where I'm at now doesn't really have great reception to begin with
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weird.. i suppose you also checked manually through the settings?
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Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. I'm manually checking for the update, and it's not showing up. I'll try restarting.
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Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. I'm manually checking for the update, and it's not showing up. I'll try restarting.
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I usually wait for the update notification upon checking updates available. This time it didn't seem it was forthcoming anytime soon since my wife's P5 didn't get it either. So I sideloaded it yesterday. It took all of 7 - 10 min from recovery to reboot. Not sure what the delay is but I just didn't feel like waiting for them to do whatever the eff they need to do to release it.
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Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. I'm manually checking for the update, and it's not showing up. I'll try restarting.
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go to google ota images https://developers.google.com/android/ota
i got my phone yesterday ....love it
I've definitely noticed an improvement in the fingerprint reader. I haven't noticed any different in network - but more so because I am usually on WiFi and generally don't have network issues when I am not.
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go to google ota images https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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Yeah, I ended up sideloading it. No issues, and everything feels a little snappier
I sideloaded it Monday afternoon. Wasn't having any issues before and am not having any issues after.
It's a little early to tell, but I think battery life has improved. I ended the day both Monday and Tuesday with a battery that was about 10%-15% higher than usual.
Being able to use music player like neutron working again is brilliant I had the update on Monday about 11pm I'm in uk
i installed June update 2 days ago. not sure if it is the update or battery guru which was installed at the same time, but now my phone ACTUALLY goes into deep sleep (as reported by battery guru)!!
Its always in deep sleep now for around 15/16hrs between charges and battery drain is down to as little as 1% per hr when screen off. Before I could lose around 20/30% from around 10pm (last phone use) until 6.30am when i pick my phone up the following morning.
One thing i am having issue with SINCE the June update is pixel launcher. Im getting errors saying it has stopped working. I Use Lawnchair anyway, but thats not the point. Just before I get the error about pixel launcher, the phone goes really slow.
A restart of the phone hasn't solved the issues and i have also cleared data/cache from the launcher to no avail.
I NEED TO CONNECT MULTIPLE BLUETOOTH DEVICES AT ONCE!
one weird error I have since updating. If I pull down the notification tab as soon as i click a notification, instead of opening it it will lock the screen
Noticed much improved battery life as well. A 2% drop in active usage and much better standby battery drain. Took my phone out of the charger at 1pm yesterday and I'm at 48% as of writing this message the net day at 6:35pm. Moderate active usage between then and now.
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Forgot to mention that my phone doesn't seem to randomly overheat anymore while casually browsing the web.
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Phone finally shut down today at 4pm, with around 50hours of total battery life and 6ish hours of screen time. This is probably the single biggest overall battery life improvement I've ever experienced just from installing an update alone on any phone I've owned.
NVM, I found the setting.
Definitely not better here battery or network wise after the June patch.
Morning all. My pixel 6 (non pro) is being delivered today and I've been looking through the forum, as I always do for a new phone, to try and see what recommendations people have. Despite seeing lots of issues in the 'press' with battery life and Android 13 (downgrading / bricking), I can't see what the general consensus is here and peoples experiences seem to differ.
Is upgrading to Android 13 worth it? Does it actually fix the battery life issues?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Just look here reddit
Best way is make a clean, fresh install - flash.android.com
carlo497 said:
Just look here reddit
Best way is make a clean, fresh install - flash.android.com
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Socialist media sites here are frowned upon.
Plus the site rules say so...
carlo497 said:
Just look here reddit
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Reddit? Where 90% of problems are user-made. Not a good advice especially when you are in a forum where specialist are really here to help.
Cheers
thermomonkey said:
Morning all. My pixel 6 (non pro) is being delivered today and I've been looking through the forum, as I always do for a new phone, to try and see what recommendations people have. Despite seeing lots of issues in the 'press' with battery life and Android 13 (downgrading / bricking), I can't see what the general consensus is here and peoples experiences seem to differ.
Is upgrading to Android 13 worth it? Does it actually fix the battery life issues?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Intermediate level rooter/phone tinkerer here. First thing I did when getting my P6 was to unlock, upgrade to A13, and root, so I have no context for what A12 was like. What I can say is battery life has been amazing for me. Albeit I am not a heavy user (only play COD mobile every once in a blue moon). Most of the time it's just phone, text, browser, music and YouTube use. I am actually testing the battery right now, and I am at 27% since unplugging at 100% 40 hours ago, so I am completely happy. On pace to be a 2 day battery for me. YMMV.
In regards to how I like A13, I am coming from A11 on a Oneplus device, and I have to say I miss the old style quick toggles personally. But I am also one that doesn't mind getting used to new software. I know this can annoy others quite a bit. The rest of the OS issues I have are not version related, they are me missing OxygenOS features like screen gestures to play/pause music, turn on flashlight, modify status bar icons, ect. I really miss them, but have turned my back on Oneplus due to their recent decisions (constant lack of IP ratings, no wireless charging, removing the alert slider, constant price creep, subpar cameras) so the only easy to root alternative that addresses my above frustrations is the Pixel line.
That being said, any Pixel you buy brand new is gonna start with A12, which is very close to A13. So again, YMMV with how you acclimate to the new OS version.
Hope this helps
Also, the fingerprint reader on this phone is way better than the one on my Oneplus 8T, that thing was absolute garbage IMO...like 30-40% success rate. This P6 one is completely satisfactory for me, rarely have a failure. When I do, it's usually due to moisture or dirt. But any in screen reader has these issues, not isolated to P6. Only solution is to have a physical reader like the Sony Xperia or the like.
I know I probably seem like the minority here, it seems most people have horrible experiences with the P6 reader, just saying me personally it has been great. Also, my above great experience is WITH a tempered glass protector on and have NOT increased the touch sensitivity like the instructions seem to indicate a need for.
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Intermediate level rooter/phone tinkerer here. First thing I did when getting my P6 was to unlock, upgrade to A13, and root, so I have no context for what A12 was like. What I can say is battery life has been amazing for me. Albeit I am not a heavy user (only play COD mobile every once in a blue moon). Most of the time it's just phone, text, browser, music and YouTube use. I am actually testing the battery right now, and I am at 27% since unplugging at 100% 40 hours ago, so I am completely happy. On pace to be a 2 day battery for me. YMMV.
In regards to how I like A13, I am coming from A11 on a Oneplus device, and I have to say I miss the old style quick toggles personally. But I am also one that doesn't mind getting used to new software. I know this can annoy others quite a bit. The rest of the OS issues I have are not version related, they are me missing OxygenOS features like screen gestures to play/pause music, turn on flashlight, modify status bar icons, ect. I really miss them, but have turned my back on Oneplus due to their recent decisions (constant lack of IP ratings, no wireless charging, removing the alert slider, constant price creep, subpar cameras) so the only easy to root alternative that addresses my above frustrations is the Pixel line.
That being said, any Pixel you buy brand new is gonna start with A12, which is very close to A13. So again, YMMV with how you acclimate to the new OS version.
Hope this helps
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Thanks for your replies, much appreciated. Can I ask why you root? I used to routinely do this many years ago and infact did it recently to my Poco F2 bit that was purely to enable call recording. I find the lack of being able to properly use banking apps / Google pay too big a price to pay.
I've not got my sim card in yet so using WiFi only. My phone seems to be getting quite hot? Not doing much very intensive, just downloading and installing apps. It's been off a few minutes now and it's still warm. Battery drain also seems a little high albeit I've been downloading lots of programmes.
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Thanks for your replies, much appreciated. Can I ask why you root? I used to routinely do this many years ago and infact did it recently to my Poco F2 bit that was purely to enable call recording. I find the lack of being able to properly use banking apps / Google pay too big a price to pay.
I've not got my sim card in yet so using WiFi only. My phone seems to be getting quite hot? Not doing much very intensive, just downloading and installing apps. It's been off a few minutes now and it's still warm. Battery drain also seems a little high albeit I've been downloading lots of programmes.
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Absolutely! Reasons I root:
1. Adaway - block all ads system wide,
2. Vanced YouTube - block YT ads, extra customization like swipe controls
3. Did I mention I HATE ads with white hot passion??
4. Tasker root required modifications
5. Ability to nuke any bloat app I want
6. Call recording
7. Other Magisk modules that I have used in the past but have not tried/not supported on A13 yet.
8. I just personally like having control over software I use. Any future mod I could possibly desire I would have the access required to implement
No concern with apps blocking you due to rooting, that is fixed by USNF and Zygisk denylist
In my experience, anytime I am setting up a new phone they get warm. Also to note, these newer builds of Android require about 5-7 day "break in" period, where the OS is optimizing based on your usage. After that period is when battery life settles down.
If I'm not mistaken with the P6/P6P once you upgrade to A13, you cannot downgrade back to A12. So something to consider.
centifanto said:
Absolutely! Reasons I root:
1. Adaway - block all ads system wide,
2. Vanced YouTube - block YT ads, extra customization like swipe controls
3. Did I mention I HATE ads with white hot passion??
4. Tasker root required modifications
5. Ability to nuke any bloat app I want
6. Call recording
7. Other Magisk modules that I have used in the past but have not tried/not supported on A13 yet.
8. I just personally like having control over software I use. Any future mod I could possibly desire I would have the access required to implement
No concern with apps blocking you due to rooting, that is fixed by USNF and Zygisk denylist
In my experience, anytime I am setting up a new phone they get warm. Also to note, these newer builds of Android require about 5-7 day "break in" period, where the OS is optimizing based on your usage. After that period is when battery life settles down.
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Thanks!! Sorry for my slow reply.
Just FYI, Vanced works without root and surprisingly, so does call recording.
Interesting about the USNF though, I was unaware of that and wondered how people lived without access to all the banking type apps.
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2. Vanced YouTube - block YT ads, extra customization like swipe controls
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What vanced are you using?
palopaxo said:
What vanced are you using?
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Take a look at AfterVanced on Reddit
thermomonkey said:
Interesting about the USNF though, I was unaware of that and wondered how people lived without access to all the banking type apps.
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USNF for me isn't about the banking apps but tap and pay. I could give two s***s about the banks, as if I really needed to I could just access their services through the browser. I like the convenience of tap and pay, not going to lie, but can function without it easily enough, as I do carry my cards on me in a Ridge-style wallet even though I have the phone as an option. You never know when Google will suddenly update the Wallet or GPay apps and cause the USNF to not work for a few days.
thermomonkey said:
Morning all. My pixel 6 (non pro) is being delivered today and I've been looking through the forum, as I always do for a new phone, to try and see what recommendations people have. Despite seeing lots of issues in the 'press' with battery life and Android 13 (downgrading / bricking), I can't see what the general consensus is here and peoples experiences seem to differ.
Is upgrading to Android 13 worth it? Does it actually fix the battery life issues?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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I just got a Pixel 6 myself a couple weeks ago after being an iPhone user for a few years. I have to say I haven't really put it through the wringer yet, but so far I've had zero issues with it. Nothing like I've seen discussed at length in multiple threads on Reddit.
My biggest issue thus far is trying to figure out what browser to use, as I have the freedom to actually choose.
novafluxx said:
I just got a Pixel 6 myself a couple weeks ago after being an iPhone user for a few years. I have to say I haven't really put it through the wringer yet, but so far I've had zero issues with it. Nothing like I've seen discussed at length in multiple threads on Reddit.
My biggest issue thus far is trying to figure out what browser to use, as I have the freedom to actually choose.
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I like Brave Browser, Firefox, or Chromium.
Glad to hear no issues with the 6.
I'm holding out for the 7.
However my 5 is still running like a champ.
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I like Brave Browser, Firefox, or Chromium.
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I read that Firefox for Android isn't as secure as on desktop. I'm finding Brave to be pretty great though. I've got issues with it on desktop but I don't really need it in desktop as I have Firefox and ublock origin.
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I just got a Pixel 6 myself a couple weeks ago after being an iPhone user for a few years. I have to say I haven't really put it through the wringer yet, but so far I've had zero issues with it. Nothing like I've seen discussed at length in multiple threads on Reddit.
My biggest issue thus far is trying to figure out what browser to use, as I have the freedom to actually choose.
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I use Opera on my P6. Blocks ad and is smoother than Chrome (which I suppose most browser are).
Back to the original topic, I can't really comment on the difference between 12 and 13, but I can say my experience on 13 has been good. No notable issues, excellent battery life, and support from Magisk addons like AOSP Mods is catching up.
Just make sure you know what you're doing if you do upgrade to 13, especially if you're a root user. TL;DR - the phone has two "slots" for everything but data (bootloader, system, etc.), and flashing the OTA of 13 updates one of those slots. After that happens, if anything happens that causes your phone to boot from the un-updated side before you've updated at least the bootloader on that side, you've got a brick. There are guides around for getting both sides updated that're better than I can, though the rootless (sideload) method for updating both sides can have issues with USB >2.0.