So what do people think of the new Android 11 update? - OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion

I've been running it for the past few days, and its working well. Not ran into any issues with it.
I like that the timer within the clock lets you type in the same way that the google clock does, you can type 3000 to get a 30 min timer, before it only let you type in the minutes or seconds boxes individually.
AOD is a welcone addition, been waiting for it since it was announced, I've not noticed much of a difference to battery life, I can still get to the end of the day with about 40-50% remaining.
I like the android 11 feature where media players are now in the quick toggle area.
I did notice things looked a bit bigger, so I changed my DPI setting to 400 in developer settings and that seems better than before, its not quite the same sizing as on 10.
Looks like the small visual bug for the icons on recents is also fixed
What do people think of it?

to me with os11, it's laggier and less responsive in general. Don't like it very much, with os10 the device was much better. Did you do a clean flash or installed it over os10?

shajk-00 said:
to me with os11, it's laggier and less responsive in general. Don't like it very much, with os10 the device was much better. Did you do a clean flash or installed it over os10?
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Same, laggier than the previous OS 10, i did a clean flash for the stable update, its a bit better than open beta 3 but honestly, not enough, i would like to think that they will improve the user experience in further updates, but i dont know, not too much confidence in OnePlus from my part.

can't confirm, for me the device is as fluid as always, didn'T factory reset or similar
I simply deactivated many many many bloat apps, that's all

shajk-00 said:
to me with os11, it's laggier and less responsive in general. Don't like it very much, with os10 the device was much better. Did you do a clean flash or installed it over os10?
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I just used Oxygen updater to get the update quicker, and then just did the upgrade via the regular system update method.
I was considering doing a clean flash, as its jumping up an android version, but I was lazy
Which parts seem laggy to you? I havent really noticed any slow downs, I mainly just noticed that text seems bigger, so tweaking DPI seems to have done the trick.

donk165 said:
I just used Oxygen updater to get the update quicker, and then just did the upgrade via the regular system update method.
I was considering doing a clean flash, as its jumping up an android version, but I was lazy
Which parts seem laggy to you? I havent really noticed any slow downs, I mainly just noticed that text seems bigger, so tweaking DPI seems to have done the trick.
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people never say how many apps they have installed and how many are running in the background, but expect a mid range phone to be as excellent as a flagship

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people never say how many apps they have installed and how many are running in the background, but expect a mid range phone to be as excellent as a flagship
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I just expect that an update that theoretically should improve the performance and general quality of my device doesn't produce the opposite effect. My installed apps are exactly the same I had in Os10 because I didn't do a clean flash since I installed it with oxygen updater.

TheSSJ said:
can't confirm, for me the device is as fluid as always, didn'T factory reset or similar
I simply deactivated many many many bloat apps, that's all
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cant conform also. 11 feels just as fuild as 10 was.
havent found any bugs yet

I'm having issues with wifi and data traffic, both of them are connected and working in all my devices, but suddenly in nord both signals keep connected but don't load anything and I have to reboot the phone in order to get them working again

shajk-00 said:
I just expect that an update that theoretically should improve the performance and general quality of my device doesn't produce the opposite effect. My installed apps are exactly the same I had in Os10 because I didn't do a clean flash since I installed it with oxygen updater.
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Unfortunately not, usually Android upgrades (especially with the manufacturer made modifications to UI, system, etc) use up even more resources than in the previous version, so at some point our phones will not be able to handle a stock version of a future Android version. At least LOS etc will help getting us upgrades once OP Nord won't be supported anymore

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Unfortunately not, usually Android upgrades (especially with the manufacturer made modifications to UI, system, etc) use up even more resources than in the previous version, so at some point our phones will not be able to handle a stock version of a future Android version. At least LOS etc will help getting us upgrades once OP Nord won't be supported anymore
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I just think this happens because of lack of optimization rather than a lack of resources. I mean OP nord with its CPU and 8gb of ram should be perfectly capable of handling android 11 as fine as android 10. I'm not saying the device is useless now, just it's not responsive and fluid as it was with the previous version, and it's a pity

Just want more aod customization and god damn weather in aod and lockscreen.

Everything seems okay on android 11 update But why is the security patch still at January 2021? Updated to new os but still same security patch from android 10

For me the reboot after update did not work. The phone got stuck on the home screen. The next reboot just heated up the phone a lot. Now need to see how it performs during daily use.

the only thing that gets me is that it seems to disable auto-rotate screen on a daily basis

Haven't noticed any performance differences between 10 vs 11. I've never done any factory resets from new. Only debloated all apps i never use. Overall pleased with the Nord.

I just flashed the latest hotfix and must say the system got more snappy overall. Really like it

Within a few days of updating, around 1/3 of my apps would just force close upon opening them. The affected apps worked after reinstalling but as soon as i closed the app it went back to the same problem.
Ended up going back to LOS.
*Edit* Nope that was just Google breaking Webview.

Jamie_Bowen said:
Within a few days of updating, around 1/3 of my apps would just force close upon opening them. The affected apps worked after reinstalling but as soon as i closed the app it went back to the same problem.
Ended up going back to LOS.
*Edit* Nope that was just Google breaking Webview.
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too bad i did a reset because of this, i got so mad shouldn't have rushed it

Jamie_Bowen said:
Within a few days of updating, around 1/3 of my apps would just force close upon opening them. The affected apps worked after reinstalling but as soon as i closed the app it went back to the same problem.
Ended up going back to LOS.
*Edit* Nope that was just Google breaking Webview.
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I had same problem with Migrate apps from 10 to 11 beta. Reinstall fix the problem

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[Q] Android system maintenance?

In general, we all know that PCs running Win-doze tend to accumulate junk, registry errors, etc. that slow them down. Does the same sort of gradual performance degradation happen on an Android device over time?
I mean, I've never kept the same ROM on any device more than a month, so I'm not able to evaluate it, but I do love the snappy fresh feel of a newly flashed ROM.
If it does happen, I'd assume it's simply due to the overly zealous installation of every program under the Sun.
I try to keep my devices running as Spartan as possible, but is there any long-term maintanance that one can do for an Android device apart from a factory reset or reflash that can keep things runing in top shape?
I periodically delete cache and dalvik and repair permissions, just in case, or if I have a problem, but I'm curious about this.
Anyone? Opine away.
I don't know if using android accumulates junk overtime, but my sgs 2 is still running as fast as it did since I flashed it, at least I think so. However whilst I offer no proof whatsoever, i believe android is the windows of our time.
Kailkti said:
I don't know if using android accumulates junk overtime, but my sgs 2 is still running as fast as it did since I flashed it, at least I think so. However whilst I offer no proof whatsoever, i believe android is the windows of our time.
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What do you mean by that? The windows of our time in what way?
In the sense that it is successful but no substance. Meaning it is popular but how the system handles its resources is behind in comparison to the other mobile OSes. E.g. The lack of HW acceleration, battery life, ram usage.
Edit: maybe popular isn't the right word. Maybe it's more like it works, but how it works is behind in comparison to others.
I have experienced a noticeable performance degradation of my milestone running cm6 over time (it has been about 4 months since I changed to this rom).
But I have managed to get it running swift again by removing about 60% of installed apps, so I think that, like windows, it doesn't handle well installing too many apps.
It's not just cm6 I experienced the same with other roms I tested.
You just bumped a thread from last October in the I9100 forums to post about a completely different phone?

Why is everything so unstable?

This is my first entry into the Android tablet market and I love the Transformer Prime but are things supposed to be so unstable?
My browser crashes, flash locks up, the camera locks up, the task manager stops for no reason etc... Is it the tablet cpu, the OS or the applications? Do people with other brand tablets have the same issues?
Don't mean this to be a rant but after running Linux of the desktop for the past 8 years, I am a bit shocked at how so many things just don't work as intended.
Stability depends what version of firmware you're running. If you're not already on .15 then you may be experiencing major known issues with the tablet and stability.
Otherwise, perhaps some apps are a bit slow, which is being detected as a potential crash. Try sticking performance mode on and selecting 'Wait' when an app hangs next time. I get this with the stock browser a lot, but Chrome Beta (and other browers) are much better. There are a lot of threads here with people rooting for their favourite one.
As for the 'task manager stops' issue, I've never had this so can't comment? What exactly happens?
I wouldn't compare my tablets stability to a mature desktop platform like Linux, but I can't remember being truly frustrated with it except for the reboots on older firmware - and I use mine 5+ hours a day...
The software isnt perfect yet. There are still some issues with ICS and still some with asus adapted it. And i think there is also some room for improvement for the gpu drivers which will come from nvidia.
Everything is new with the prime. New chip, new OS... Things will only get better
Did you do a hard reset after upgrading to ICS from HC? My prime was buggy as all hell until I found someone mentioning to make sure to do a hard reset after upgrading and I tried it and made such a difference it was unbelievable. Every once in a while things crash but it was a night and day difference.
I don't know if you have to do it between patches (I didn't have to after the first hard reset) and it'd amaze me if you did have to, but it seemed to be required for the 3.x -> 4.x upgrade.
I didn't have much on the tablet so I decided on a full reset, redid my settings and added back the few apps I had put on it and everything is 100% better. Thanks for the suggestions! Maybe the HC to ICS upgrade and all the firmware updates over the past few weeks might have mucked up some stuff.
The bad thing about android is its open source and not everything is going to work as great as we hope out of the box
The awesome thing about android is its open source and nearly everything can be tweaked or "made better" by communities like this.
Stock web browser sucks. Theres lots of other web browsers on the market, many for free. give em a try see what works best for you with relation to speed, features, etc.
Stock launcher, in my opinion, is VERY laggy on the home screens. I use ADW now, no lag, works well for me. YMMV, try different launchers see what works best for you.
Do some research into task killers, there is a HUGE debate as to weather or not they help or hinder. The stock asus task killer is very laggy IMO. There are otheres out there but really i just stick to closing apps as im done with them (select the recent apps button, swipe the apps you want to close to the right of the screen to close them)
Overall this tablet has a HUGE potential however there will be some time before we see a huge amount of stuff for it development wise, we JUST got a unlock for the bootloader, Android for tablets is still pretty new, give it a little time. Good luck!

Android Nougat on SM-G930P

I just recently came across numerous articles claiming it was possible to get Android Nougat on a U.S model Galaxy S7. And just yesterday, samsung rolled out the galaxy beta application to the Galaxy App Store. I immediately unrooted and went to the latest firmware, and I downloaded the app. Registered and waited, and 14 hours or so after registering, I received the update. I'm honestly shocked at how good this update is. It's 10x more snappy and quick than it used to be (even after being rooted and debloated), it comes with great features such as a built in blue light filter and being able to change your screen's resolution on the fly, and the battery life is much improved. I've barely scratched the surface on what this new update comes with and just wanted to let the people on this forum know. If you're interested in seeing what it looks like I've attached some screenshots of what it looks like below.
So I got unlocked fw on my wife's Sprint S7 and like how it's bloatfree and runs real smooth. How is the Nougat 7.0 beta update compare to unlocked fw? Is it way smoother then the PJ2 fw? Just wanna see if it's worth it to even go back to PJ2 on her phone and sign up to get the beta update.
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So I got unlocked fw on my wife's Sprint S7 and like how it's bloatfree and runs real smooth. How is the Nougat 7.0 beta update compare to unlocked fw? Is it way smoother then the PJ2 fw? Just wanna see if it's worth it to even go back to PJ2 on her phone and sign up to get the beta update.
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I won't lie to you, I'm a heavy root user and not having root on Android N sucks. However, it's a lot snappier than the PJ2 firmware, and it just feels a lot quicker in general. The simple materialistic look it has is great, and apps install and uninstall very quickly. You can disable nearly all the bloat that it comes with, and I'd definitely recommend trying nougat. It's been very quick and snappy so far, so I would give it a shot. Boot times improved and lag isn't nearly as bad as Android 6.0.1.
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I won't lie to you, I'm a heavy root user and not having root on Android N sucks. However, it's a lot snappier than the PJ2 firmware, and it just feels a lot quicker in general. The simple materialistic look it has is great, and apps install and uninstall very quickly. You can disable nearly all the bloat that it comes with, and I'd definitely recommend trying nougat. It's been very quick and snappy so far, so I would give it a shot. Boot times improved and lag isn't nearly as bad as Android 6.0.1.
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So it's worth losing root?
shooterlgk said:
So it's worth losing root?
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I'd say it is, I used xposed for so many things (mainly adblocking), and it's annoying to get the ads back, but it's so much faster booting up and just snappier all around, that the speed makes up for the restrictions that come with a rooted device.
All right! The update wasn't showing this morning, but I checked again this afternoon, and there it was!
Came here to post about it and I see that I'm not alone. Still downloading..
ItsYaminNoodlez said:
I'd say it is, I used xposed for so many things (mainly adblocking), and it's annoying to get the ads back, but it's so much faster booting up and just snappier all around, that the speed makes up for the restrictions that come with a rooted device.
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Is there a hotspot workaround? Probably only thing holding me back
shooterlgk said:
Is there a hotspot workaround? Probably only thing holding me back
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Don't know. I use the native hotspot with my plan.
AarSyl said:
Don't know. I use the native hotspot with my plan.
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You get it downloaded and installed, if so, how do you like it so far?
shooterlgk said:
Is there a hotspot workaround? Probably only thing holding me back
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Not yet but I'm researching how to get one, will keep you posted.
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You get it downloaded and installed, if so, how do you like it so far?
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So far, it's looks good. There are plenty touches that are pretty sweet, and some that I am still testing. I also own a Nexus 6, so I know what the raw Android N feels like.
One of my favorite upgrades would be the support for 3rd party apps in the Always-On Display. And for those who don't know, you can now double tap the notification icon while the screen is off (the Always-On Display screen), and it will turn the screen on and open the notification. That is a NICE addition!
I am fond of the fact that stock N groups the notifications by app, and also creates subgroups for each notification from EACH app. For example, 2 Emails and 2 text messages will be categorized into two main notification groups, and each can be expanded to display the individual notification, and can be dismissed separately, or as an "App Group." (my terminology...don't quote me on this) It seems like Samsung removed the ability to do this.
EDIT: Correction about the notification subgroups...it does handle them correctly most of the time, but there are times where it will not. For example, if you get multiple emails from the same person, it might not separate them. That much of the equation is not entirely consistent.
Still more testing....stay tuned.
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powerstroke said:
So I got unlocked fw on my wife's Sprint S7 and like how it's bloatfree and runs real smooth. How is the Nougat 7.0 beta update compare to unlocked fw? Is it way smoother then the PJ2 fw? Just wanna see if it's worth it to even go back to PJ2 on her phone and sign up to get the beta update.
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I am unrooted, and will probably stay that way for this device (for the time being, at least). I can say that the phone is much faster than Marshmallow. I wouldn't go through the trouble of unrooting, as the Beta program is on a first-come, first-serve basis. Not sure how many people have jumped onto the Beta ship by now.
On the other hand...you could be getting the latest version while having the snappiness that you had before. Up to you....
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So far, it's looks good. There are plenty touches that are pretty sweet, and some that I am still testing. I also own a Nexus 6, so I know what the raw Android N feels like.
One of my favorite upgrades would be the support for 3rd party apps in the Always-On Display. And for those who don't know, you can now double tap the notification icon while the screen is off (the Always-On Display screen), and it will turn the screen on and open the notification. That is a NICE addition!
I am fond of the fact that stock N groups the notifications by app, and also creates subgroups for each notification from EACH app. For example, 2 Emails and 2 text messages will be categorized into two main notification groups, and each can be expanded to display the individual notification, and can be dismissed separately, or as an "App Group." (my terminology...don't quote me on this) It seems like Samsung removed the ability to do this.
EDIT: Correction about the notification subgroups...it does handle them correctly most of the time, but there are times where it will not. For example, if you get multiple emails from the same person, it might not separate them. That much of the equation is not entirely consistent.
Still more testing....stay tuned.
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I am unrooted, and will probably stay that way for this device (for the time being, at least). I can say that the phone is much faster than Marshmallow. I wouldn't go through the trouble of unrooting, as the Beta program is on a first-come, first-serve basis. Not sure how many people have jumped onto the Beta ship by now.
On the other hand...you could be getting the latest version while having the snappiness that you had before. Up to you....
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I haven't had time to fully dive into Nougat yet, but I'm highly disappointed there's no way to modify the notification bar icon placement as icons just pile up on the right and it looks awful. Also I have no idea what they've changed but fingerprint scanning and unlocking the screen has become extremely quick and hardly ever screws up your fingerprint.
Hmmmm...that's interesting. I have to let my notifications pile up to see what you mean. I clear my notifications fairly quickly.
So here's a little more information about the update. For those who have not gotten the update as yet, install your desired themes while on Marshmallow. N Beta does not allow you to install new themes until the N build is officially released.... bummer. However, themes that are alresdy installed will work (as you.csn see, I'm using one as well).
Also, as seen in the screenshot, you can disable the default Samsung keyboard. That's new!
I will be back with more minor updates.
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Not yet but I'm researching how to get one, will keep you posted.
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Is it carrier branded or more like a universal firmware?
lvpre said:
Is it carrier branded or more like a universal firmware?
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You need to be on the latest firmware of sprint in order to receive if as it's done through the beta program and they verify your device.
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Hmmmm...that's interesting. I have to let my notifications pile up to see what you mean. I clear my notifications fairly quickly.
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I'm not taking about notification icons I'm talking about when you enable things such as airplane mode, silent, that sort of thing, as they all just sit beside each other to the right.
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I'm not taking about notification icons I'm talking about when you enable things such as airplane mode, silent, that sort of thing, as they all just sit beside each other to the right.
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Oh, right....not left. Duh! I don't understand why it bothers you though...it seems no different from MM...not unless it bothered you then as well.
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Hmmmm...that's interesting. I have to let my notifications pile up to see what you mean. I clear my notifications fairly quickly.
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That's why I said I'm disappointed that the feature to do that hasn't been added.
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That's why I said I'm disappointed that the feature to do that hasn't been added.
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Right. I see that System UI isn't added. Not surprised, though.

disappointed so far

Hi, Apologise in advanced for a rant but, surely I cant be the only person having issues with this phone? I have black version, in UK with EE. I decided to not get the iPhone XS MAX for this, last year I had the iPhone x it was super fast and efficient. But so far ive had this device 48 hours and im guttered i bought it so far. Im having a lot of issues with fps drops, if I have apps open it goes slow, for example Pokemon go, I find just spinning the ball starts making it lag, compared to my girlfriends s8 and my old iphone, its just constantly feeling unsmooth and dropping frames.
Sometimes the keyboard lags if I have a few apps open, with the specs inside im unsure how it can be failing this bad and lagging for me. Im actually close to sending this back to EE within 14 days, if this doesnt get fixed I cant stick with this for 2 years...
Ive seen a few people talking about performance mode within battery settings but I dont see this, I also dont understand why when im on the phone, notifications arent popping up sometimes, I also have this stupid notification that I cant get rid off, about showing notifications on screen or something.
At the moment, not having a good time at all, is anyone else feeling the same? my version is EMUI 9.0.0.108(C432E10R1P16)
I just dont uderstand how a phone for this cost with the great specs it has can be failing for me so much when multitasking. Especially when watching everyones YouTube videos before launch its running perfectly smooth... I just dont understand it. Maybe its my device? Maybe its just because im used to quick and effecient iphone/samsung devices and this is lacking
Anyone else having issues?
EDIT: I don't understand why, but since making this post, I've had absolutely. No issues with the device, its ran super smooth exactly as it should. In my opinion, pokemon go has ran perfectly. I love this phone, I don't want rid of it and it has so much potential, but I need this performance consistently, not just sporadic where its good for a few hours then suddenly bad again, I've since learned I'm stuck on update 108 apparently there's already a new one out but not with EE yet, maybe they've fixed some. Issues, I couldn't find a change log anywhere
Don't see any of this. I am used to using iPhone (although not X) for work and 20 pro is so much faster
I wish it would be understood that software must settle after first setup for a few days 3-4 avg. Same goes for after a reset
You saying that is slower than S8 is VERY worrying as that phone to me was considerably slower than S9+ or Note 9 and both S9+ and Note 9 were still pretty slow and laggy for me (and a lot of dropping frames) I was expecting an upgrade in terms of speed from Note 9 to Mate 20 Pro :/. Fastest phone I've used is Oneplus 6 and it was waaay faster and smoother than Note 9.
I'll let you know next week how mine is. Did you by any chance do a clean set up (installing and configuring everything from scratch) or did you use the app/feature to clone everything from previous phone?
Same thing here
Occasional keyboard lags, touch latency lag, that annoying notification
Apart from this it's a very good phone
I really hope we can achieve root at some point soon, as now I've got this all setup, I'm starting to miss the additional features root offers....
Clean install, it's weird and this probably sounds so dumb, but when I'm outdoors on pokemon go it feels choppy compared to indoors... However maybe it's not the phone and its an issue with pokemon go. Pubg ran fine, bare in mind you can only. Use low graphics until a later update haha.
I also heard a few people saying that for some reason over a few days it gets better so see what happens
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Hi, Apologise in advanced for a rant but, surely I cant be the only person having issues with this phone? I have black version, in UK with EE. I decided to not get the iPhone XS MAX for this, last year I had the iPhone x it was super fast and efficient. But so far ive had this device 48 hours and im guttered i bought it so far. Im having a lot of issues with fps drops, if I have apps open it goes slow, for example Pokemon go, I find just spinning the ball starts making it lag, compared to my girlfriends s8 and my old iphone, its just constantly feeling unsmooth and dropping frames.
Sometimes the keyboard lags if I have a few apps open, with the specs inside im unsure how it can be failing this bad and lagging for me. Im actually close to sending this back to EE within 14 days, if this doesnt get fixed I cant stick with this for 2 years...
Ive seen a few people talking about performance mode within battery settings but I dont see this, I also dont understand why when im on the phone, notifications arent popping up sometimes, I also have this stupid notification that I cant get rid off, about showing notifications on screen or something.
At the moment, not having a good time at all, is anyone else feeling the same? my version is EMUI 9.0.0.108(C432E10R1P16)
I just dont uderstand how a phone for this cost with the great specs it has can be failing for me so much when multitasking. Especially when watching everyones YouTube videos before launch its running perfectly smooth... I just dont understand it. Maybe its my device? Maybe its just because im used to quick and effecient iphone/samsung devices and this is lacking
Anyone else having issues?
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Yes I'm finding lots of issues with software too. Which is a shame because I love everything else. I'm not finding too much lag but I have notice when YouTube is in PIP things do lag.
The camera app switching between wide and telephoto lens is very laggy and hangs... It even sometimes hangs when taking a picture
3rd party launchers are pretty much a no go, there either crash and don't work at all or work with some bugs.
I sometimes get notifications for WhatsApp etc and where the body of the message is suppose to be is blank
I'm finding apps are being closed a lot and not utilising the ram.
So your not the only one, the software has a lot of jank.
Apparently the 108 build isn't the latest and theres a 202 build that's suppose to be the official release version and fixes things. Im going to wait and see if this drops in the next few days and see if it sorts it out
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Clean install, it's weird and this probably sounds so dumb, but when I'm outdoors on pokemon go it feels choppy compared to indoors... However maybe it's not the phone and its an issue with pokemon go. Pubg ran fine, bare in mind you can only. Use low graphics until a later update haha.
I also heard a few people saying that for some reason over a few days it gets better so see what happens
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Theres a good chance pokeman hasn't been optimised for emui 9 or the kirin 980 yet
I also got from EE yesterday and am slightly under whelmed. However i haven't had any keyboard lag and the phone for the most part has been fast. The facial recognition had however been hit or miss, the 4k video is abysmal and FHD isn't too great either. My previous htc u12 seems to have a much better camera for both photo and video although the Huawei had more options. The most annoying thing so far is the slide down on home screen that brings up the search bar. Rules out any scrollable widget (Google schedule or bookmarks) s it keeps going to the search function while scrolling. Going to test the camera properly at a gig in the week alongside U12. If it isn't better, it's going back I'm sorry to say. It does charge very quickly though.
The charging is fantastic, super fast... The weird thing I done a benchmark with antutu it got the top device for benchmark literally number 1. So no. Doubt the power is within the phone it just has to be the software. Again sounds dumb but since doing the benchmark the phones been perfect. Very. Smooth no. Issues it's just so hit and miss sometimes it's perfect, other times slightly slow. I noticed with the wide angle camera it. Lags when changing too
Just switched from my old S8 and I'm absolutely stunned with sleek performance of M8 20 Pro. Got my black mob from ee. However once updated I've switched Nova on and removed some unused apps. As previously said I'd performed factory reset and check all once again.
Wait for the final os update and for apps to catch up. Keep the phone for 3-4 weeks and if your issues aren't resolved, just return it (guessing most of you have a 30 day return on it). Just stop whining like children about resolvable software issues.
I had the P20 Pro and loved the hardware but hated the software. Lots of small bugs and annoyances everywhere so after some months I could not stand it anymore. Very tempted by the Mate 20 Pro but am afraid I will hate the software once again
xtrocata said:
Wait for the final os update and for apps to catch up. Keep the phone for 3-4 weeks and if your issues aren't resolved, just return it (guessing most of you have a 30 day return on it). Just stop whining like children about resolvable software issues.
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Sorry but it's not whining like children. The software should be polished and work flawless just like the hardware. There's will be updates but no guarantee the bugs will be fixed
xtrocata said:
Wait for the final os update and for apps to catch up. Keep the phone for 3-4 weeks and if your issues aren't resolved, just return it (guessing most of you have a 30 day return on it). Just stop whining like children about resolvable software issues.
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with EE as I opened a new contract I only have 14 days, im hoping it turns out well im loving it, its just the issues I mentioned above, its weird, because sometimes its amazing, since I done a stress test on an app and a benchmark its been performing better, its weird.
Sometimes its the best phone ive had, sometimes it just lags and feels like the worst.
I would love some updates before 14 days to reassure me as I do like this phone. I was more interested if others have the same issue
Same boat here pal love the phone but the software is a let down also a lot of stuff missing like AI cinema scan thing.
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Sorry but it's not whining like children. The software should be polished and work flawless just like the hardware. There's will be updates but no guarantee the bugs will be fixed
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I know. It should. In that magic place where unicorns taste like rainbows.
But we live in reality, where no phone comes up without bugs. For example, name me a phone that came out this fall and didn't need a patch after release to fix bugs?
xtrocata said:
I know. It should. In that magic place where unicorns taste like rainbows.
But we live in reality, where no phone comes up without bugs. For example, name me a phone that came out this fall and didn't need a patch after release to fix bugs?
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Yes we also live in a reality where some people don't want to spend £1000 on a product that doesn't work properly, and lose the opportunity to either get money back or try something else on the off chance it might be fixed in the future.
brunotuga said:
Same boat here pal love the phone but the software is a let down also a lot of stuff missing like AI cinema scan thing.
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Have to agree the phone is great but the missing software features (ai cinema, 3d scanning) are annoying. Neither are essential but when a product is launched as including them and a fair chunk of the launch event was devoted to showing how they work id at least expect them to be present!
I've been using the phone for 24 hours and my feelings are mixed. I love the design and size of the device, battery is amazing but the software seems like prerelease.
I've had random sound pops when the phone is on silent, can't use launchers properly with the gestures (stock launcher is terrible), no notification settings for gmail so I can't see how many unread emails I have, no thought on how notifications will show with the notch and zero customisation of the status bar to make more space, it's like the notch has wiped out a feature of android displaying your notifications, no video effects, seems bad to me that review units had it to sell the phone but its not on retail units. I know updates will come but they have to be checked by the carrier which could take a while. At this point I'm not sure whether to stick with it or admit the phone isn't for me.

Question Is the Xperia 5 IV worth it, even after root?

Right now I'm struggling really hard to find a new phone I want, and realistically none meet my standards due to low battery, or bad camera specs and software support. However I keep finding myself wanting the Xperia line of phones, and I strangely really want to get this phone but I hear and know of many cons already. Heating issues, and in a year or two it's going to lose software support right?
However would rooting it, or people who have rooted the phone solve the issues regarding the phone themselves? Like was the os optimized better for thermals, or is there a good line of custom roms that can securely update the phone that way instead? Was it worth it to go through the hassle, or is bricking a strong issue and unable to be dealt with.
Cuz honestly I just want a decent phone of 5000MAH, great camera, and good dual speakers tbh. It'd be cool if it'd come with a headphone jack too, and if micro sd was an option but honestly I only use about 80gb of storage anyway.
101% i love my with root
DanielMode said:
101% i love my with root
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Mind telling me what you did that fixed the stock flaws? I got my heart set on one of the Xperia phones lol. Tje 1V looks amazing but I wanna wait for the 5V at the same time too lol
5v wont be relased until september or maybe later.. they tend to follow yearly schedule
and if u like the notification LED better hurry caus i red some information about its no longer at the X1 V
and if this happens 8 bet same will happen at the X5 V
I haven't needed to fix any flaws really, but still rooted to remove bloat, block ads, access app data, improve privacy etc.
aricooperdavis said:
I haven't needed to fix any flaws really,crooted to remove bloat, block ads, access app data, improve privacy etc.
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ShatteredSpider exactly this! I've done all that and tbh so far (4 months), have not an issue to shout about. Perhaps its by removing the bloat, thoough very little compared to some phones, having a rooted ad-blocker makes my phone run flawlessly so far without no crazy heat issues. Of course there have been some official updates, mostly security but they may have tinkered around with the initial heating issue too. Battery life is great, magisk+modules run perfectly and banking apps work fine too. So far, my best and easiest rooted phone experience so far with some great cameras/software, plus I've got Gcam/revanced running too as a plus. New phone sensor does sound great, not sure I need to jump to it, especially as gcam night images work pretty well for me and even for general snappy images.​
@davestuarts Was there anything root-related that you had to do to get GCam working properly? I had a hard time with it initially though it did take pictures and then it stopped working entirely, possibly due to a system update.
opticron said:
@davestuarts Was there anything root-related that you had to do to get GCam working properly? I had a hard time with it initially though it did take pictures and then it stopped working entirely, possibly due to a system update.
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I don't think Gcam technically requires root, there's nothing I can remember that suggests it, as I remember testing Gcam when I first had the phone and was untouche/not rooted.
I've had Gcam 8.1 installed since (with a profile) and it's been running fine, mostly photos and occasionally videos.
I've updated the rom about three times, though manually as it's rooted, but Gcam continues to work. I've tested other versions of Gcam but they either didn't work or crashed. That's all I can say. Any further questions, I'll try and answer if I know.
davestuarts said:
I don't think Gcam technically requires root, there's nothing I can remember that suggests it, as I remember testing Gcam when I first had the phone and was untouche/not rooted.
I've had Gcam 8.1 installed since (with a profile) and it's been running fine, mostly photos and occasionally videos.
I've updated the rom about three times, though manually as it's rooted, but Gcam continues to work. I've tested other versions of Gcam but they either didn't work or crashed. That's all I can say. Any further questions, I'll try and answer if I know.
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Oooo please send what kind of photos you take on the phone, i wanna see the quality!! To me it seems like the perfect mid tier phone, but I wanted to see the stock photos, pro photos and possible gcam but haven't reliably seen results only a few reviews. I also wanna try to work it into being a professional webcam when I'm home for motion tracking but afraid of bad quality?

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