Stratos: Bluetooth 4.0 to 4.2?? (Smart compatibilities) - Amazfit

Dear all,
I recently purchased Jabra Elite Sport Earphones. They have both headphone function and heart rate monitor function. The "in ear" hear rate function work great so I would like to use it directly with my stratos.
The watch is able to connect to the earphones but regarding the heart rate monitor, I can see it in the activity accessories but when I try to connect, it tries but then says "impossible to communicate with XXX".
The earphones are bluetooth 4.2 and the stratos is 4.0. From various investigations, I could find that the 4.2 bluetooth specifications add various points regarding GATT profiles for bluetooth smart devices. I guess then the stratos is unable to connect because it is only 4.0 and not 4.2.
My question is then: is there any possibility to upgrade the watch to bluetooth 4.2? At least for what concerns software issues (my case here).
I installed Paceficator ROM expecting those new bluetooth profiles would be implemented but unfortunately not. Those, I guess, are available in the stratos 3 firmware as it is said as compatible Bluetooth 4.2 + BLE 5.0
I hope you will be able to help!
Thanks!
Edit 21/03:
I added 3 screenshot of the device scanned with my phone and Apps BLE Scanner and Bluetooth Scanner
I contacted Jabra too but they punted the issue telling they provide support for Smartphone usage and not smartwatch..

Have you enabled Bluetooth Smart in your Jabra Elite Sport Earphones before you tried to connect them with your watch? You should press and hold your right "bud" for about 10 sec.

ZduneX25 said:
Have you enabled Bluetooth Smart in your Jabra Elite Sport Earphones before you tried to connect them with your watch? You should press and hold your right "bud" for about 10 sec.
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Hello Zdune,
Thank you for taking care of my issue. I tried your trick. I heard "bluetooth Smart disconnected" and then in the watch/ Activity/ Accessories, the device was not appearing anymore.
I pressed again for 10s to reactivate and I could find again the device. But, trying to connect, it still says "unable to communicate with XX"
When the device is detected in the watch/Activity/ Accessories, it still shows a headset logo and not a heart rate logo. When I scan the device with my phone for bluetooth smart, it shows a heart rate logo. I think the watch is making confusion between the Classic Bluetooth function (headset) and the Smart function (health device). I don't know whether it is due to : 1) watch bluetooth version (4.0 instead of 4,2), 2) watch software issue, 3) headset software issue.
I hope someone can help.

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[Q] One click connect to *specific* Bluetooth device? [NFC Automation]

Hi All,
I have an NFC enabled Samsung Galaxy Nexus and have placed NFC tags in specific places (car, living room, home theater, bedroom, etc.) so that I when I set my phone on the NFC tag I can automatically play music over Bluetooth in that location.
I am trying to completely automate connecting to a *specific* Bluetooth device. (I am not looking to simply toggle Bluetooth on or off, or select the desired Bluetooth device from a menu.) I am currently using "NFC Task Launcher" to accomplish the majority of this, but as far as Bluetooth is concerned, the most I've been able to automate so far is to simply Bluetooth on or off. (I also tried "Tasker" but the functionality I am looking for is missing from this app as well.) I have not found a way to read an NFC tag and automatically connect to a specific Bluetooth device based on which tag is read, nor have I even found a "one click" app / widget that connects to a specific Bluetooth device. (If such a "one click" app / widget exists, I could automate the launching of that app to make the connection.).
(Also having the Bluetooth device in each location initiate the connection isn't a viable solution, I need for the phone to iniatiate the connection.)
Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
Ran across this looking for the same answer. Surprised no one has responded in over a month here.
Did you have any luck finding a workaround for specific BT device connections?
Hi,
I am the developer of MacroDroid an automation application for Android (that supports NFC tags).
This is a feature one of my users has just requested, so I'm just starting to look into the feasibility of adding it. (I came across this post during my initial research).
I will report back here on what I find and if all goes to plan I'll get the feature added to MacroDroid ASAP.
In the meantime, I'd appreciate ALL feedback (positive and negative) with regards to MacroDroid as I hope to make it as powerful and flexible as possible. It's available on Google Play here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.arlosoft.macrodroid&hl=en
Cheers,
Jamie
Just a quick follow up to my last post.
I believe it is possible to implement functionality to connect to a specific device. I currently don't have an appropriate device to test this, but I have one on order. As soon as I receive it, I'll have a go at adding this to MacroDroid.
In the meantime the following app on the market:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=a2dp.Vol&hl=en
Has the capability to connect to a second Bluetooth device when a Bluetooth connection is established. This may or may not help depending on what you are doing.
Any update on this? I'm also in the same boat. My car doesn't automatically connect anymore, never really did, I think its Bluetooth > 3.x on phone( 4.0 right now, but same on older past devices on S3 ) and the stereo bluetooth is older version( can't remember exactly. )
Anyways, thanks dev for posting about the other app, plan on trying it out tomorrow. In the meantime have you made any progress on your app for this functionality? I'd rather keep everything( all settings ) in one app if I can. Don't think Tasker allows this still, not sure on locale but I doubt it also.
Eagerly awaiting an update
A few more options
Did a little more searching just in case anything new has been released recently - came up with a few new options.. None seem to suit my need (trigger connection within Tasker via a plugin or directly opening an app), but posting here since they may help others.. I haven't tried these - just going on app descriptions.
So, in addition to A2DP Volume as suggested by UndeadCretin, which would be the best option if you want the connection to a A2DP device when another BT device connects, there's also Car Music Connector (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleansoft.carmusic) which would seem to fit the bill for most people perfectly. Free, and "Connects you device to Bluetooth stereo in one widget click or NFC tap." Downside would seem to be that it would need to be set as default NFC app for one tap NFC triggering.
If just a widget is needed, Bluetooth Autoconnect (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.btautoconnect), which is a paid app - although Car Music Connector also has a widget so is probably a better (and free!) choice.
Edit: Scratch that.. Car Music Connector doesn't prompt for a device to connect to.. I only have 1 A2DP device paired, and it wont connect to it (just times out) - maybe someone else will have better luck.
Bluetooth Autoconnect seems like it should work, however it enables/disables bluetooth at the same time - so if you already have bluetooth turned on, it turns it off. <sigh>
I'm unable to get it to connect to the either of 2 A2DP devices though - emailed the Dev hoping that it's just something funky with my device (Galaxy S3) that can be worked around.
Interested in this as well.
Firstly sorry for the long delay in replying!
I have now added the ability in MacroDroid to connect to a specific Bluetooth audio device. I have it working on my 2.3 and 4.0.4 and 4.1 devices but I only have a single audio device to test against. Some users have reported that it's not working for them, so if anyone does try this I would appreciate any feedback if it works or doesn't. If it's not working for you could you please tell me the device, OS version and device you are trying to connect to. Feedback here is fine, or mail me at: [email protected]
Best Regards,
Jamie
UndeadCretin said:
I have now added the ability in MacroDroid to connect to a specific Bluetooth audio device.
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Awesome to hear.. I'll give it a test run when I get a chance and get back to you with results.. Just a query - what's the system resource usage of MacroDroid? I currently use Tasker, and am more than happy to buy and use MacroDroid for this one single function if it works, but don't really want them both running in the background at the same time if they're using up resources.. Can MacroDroid be setup to only run when called (i.e. having a shortcut trigger it, or even better via a Locale plugin?) I know that this is probably wanting a little too much
For others, Bluetooth Auto Connect (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.myklos.btautoconnect) has had a recent update of "New: Tasker/Local plugin - new Profile action added - Connect / Disconnect actions supported" which sounds promising.
I never got the app to work previously (it just never connected), but others may have better luck. I haven't tried it since the update.
Kaibosh said:
Awesome to hear.. I'll give it a test run when I get a chance and get back to you with results.. Just a query - what's the system resource usage of MacroDroid? I currently use Tasker, and am more than happy to buy and use MacroDroid for this one single function if it works, but don't really want them both running in the background at the same time if they're using up resources.. Can MacroDroid be setup to only run when called (i.e. having a shortcut trigger it, or even better via a Locale plugin?) I know that this is probably wanting a little too much
For others, Bluetooth Auto Connect (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.myklos.btautoconnect) has had a recent update of "New: Tasker/Local plugin - new Profile action added - Connect / Disconnect actions supported" which sounds promising.
I never got the app to work previously (it just never connected), but others may have better luck. I haven't tried it since the update.
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The resource usage of MacroDroid should be very low as it is effectively dormant in most cases. MacroDroid does run as a foreground service so it displays a persistent icon in the notification bar. If this annoys you there is an option in settings to turn off the foreground service. In most cases it will still work but YMMV. Anyway you can get the basic functionality for free, so you can give it a try and see how it works for you.
Regards,
Jamie
I have just submitted an updated (V1.3.8) that will hopefully solve the issue some users were seeing with the Bluetooth audio connection. I appreciate any feedback if it works (or not) for you....
Car Music Connector
Hello,
In addition to A2DP profile Car Music Connector waits for Headset profile to be connected by default. This is more reliable for most car bluetooth enabled stereos. If you are using it with A2DP only device you need to disable "Wait for Headset Bluetooth connection" in settings.
Hope that helps.
Alexander Shakhov.
Car Music Connector author.
An amazing One click - Connect 2 Specific Bluetooth device for A2DP and Phone app:
Bluetooth Pair
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gnssoftworks.bluetoothpair
found it very useful for swapping bluetooth headphones between devices WITHOUT turning off Bluetooth entirely or going into the settings menu.
Example Use Case:
I have one Stereo Bluetooth headset with mic (two profiles - phone and A2DP audio)
I have one Android Phone and one Android Tablet.
Phone Profile is always connected to the Android Phone, but the A2DP audio changes depending on which device you want to listen to music from.
Normally, if you want to listen to audio from the Tablet when your headset's A2DP profile is connected to the phone, you'd have to first go to the settings menu of the phone, and disconnect the A2DP, leaving Phone Profile connected. Then go to the settings menu on your tablet and connect the A2DP only.
Then you'd have to do the opposite if you want to listen to audio from the Phone again.
Takes a long time.
With Bluetooth Pair, you can specifically connect or disconnect to a specific device and specific profile (phone / a2dp) by widgets.
So you won't have to turn off the bluetooth completely on one device just to allow your headset to connect another device. Nor do you need to go into settings anymore.
1.) Just tap on the A2DP device specific widget on the phone to disconnect, the A2DP Profile from the phone
2.) go to the Tablet, and tap on the A2DP device specific widget to connect the A2DP profile of the headset to the Tablet
Two taps!
klau1 said:
An amazing One click - Connect 2 Specific Bluetooth device for A2DP and Phone app:
Bluetooth Pair
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gnssoftworks.bluetoothpair
found it very useful for swapping bluetooth headphones between devices WITHOUT turning off Bluetooth entirely or going into the settings menu.
Example Use Case:
I have one Stereo Bluetooth headset with mic (two profiles - phone and A2DP audio)
I have one Android Phone and one Android Tablet.
Phone Profile is always connected to the Android Phone, but the A2DP audio changes depending on which device you want to listen to music from.
Normally, if you want to listen to audio from the Tablet when your headset's A2DP profile is connected to the phone, you'd have to first go to the settings menu of the phone, and disconnect the A2DP, leaving Phone Profile connected. Then go to the settings menu on your tablet and connect the A2DP only.
Then you'd have to do the opposite if you want to listen to audio from the Phone again.
Takes a long time.
With Bluetooth Pair, you can specifically connect or disconnect to a specific device and specific profile (phone / a2dp) by widgets.
So you won't have to turn off the bluetooth completely on one device just to allow your headset to connect another device. Nor do you need to go into settings anymore.
1.) Just tap on the A2DP device specific widget on the phone to disconnect, the A2DP Profile from the phone
2.) go to the Tablet, and tap on the A2DP device specific widget to connect the A2DP profile of the headset to the Tablet
Two taps!
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Awesome! Gonna download it now and try it in the morning... but ya still get the thanks regardless of how it works for breathing life into this thread

[Q] LG G Watch - communication question

Hi guys, I wonder if I could get an answer to something that I can't seem to figure out.
I currently have an HTC One M8, which when I get into my car, automatically pairs to the car's Bluetooth system & allows me to use voice control to dial, and also play music through the car stereo (also via Bluetooth).
What I can't figure out, is if I were to buy a smartwatch (The LG is what i'm looking at), then I assume that the watch connects to the phone using Bluetooth? If that is the case, then what happens, if my phone & watch are currently paired together when I get into my car?
I'm under the impression that Bluetooth only was between 2 devices? If so, would I need to manually disconnect the phone from the watch and then manually connect it to the car? Or would the phone automatically drop the watch connection when it saw the in-car connection available? Or can the phone somehow remain connected to both Bluetooth devices at the same time?
I can't be the only person that might have in-car Bluetooth that's also thinking about/already owns a smartwatch?
Maybe I'm just over-thinking it?
Thanks in advance for any information.
greatcapp said:
Hi guys, I wonder if I could get an answer to something that I can't seem to figure out.
I currently have an HTC One M8, which when I get into my car, automatically pairs to the car's Bluetooth system & allows me to use voice control to dial, and also play music through the car stereo (also via Bluetooth).
What I can't figure out, is if I were to buy a smartwatch (The LG is what i'm looking at), then I assume that the watch connects to the phone using Bluetooth? If that is the case, then what happens, if my phone & watch are currently paired together when I get into my car?
I'm under the impression that Bluetooth only was between 2 devices? If so, would I need to manually disconnect the phone from the watch and then manually connect it to the car? Or would the phone automatically drop the watch connection when it saw the in-car connection available? Or can the phone somehow remain connected to both Bluetooth devices at the same time?
I can't be the only person that might have in-car Bluetooth that's also thinking about/already owns a smartwatch?
Maybe I'm just over-thinking it?
Thanks in advance for any information.
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I have the Omate Truesmart. I keep it paired to my Note3, and also use LG Tone bt headphones or with my car radio JVC Kameleon. The difference is when you click on the settings icon for the connected device in the BT menu on the phone. It will list the headphones/car radio as phone and media audio and allows me to play music through them or use as bluetooth connection for calls, and skip tracks and play pause. For the watch it lists the connection type as internet use, and I can use the watch to view and skip tracks, view/answer/dismiss calls, reply to notifications. I am guessing the android wear devices will probably work the same way.
ghostfaceg35 said:
I have the Omate Truesmart. I keep it paired to my Note3, and also use LG Tone bt headphones or with my car radio JVC Kameleon. The difference is when you click on the settings icon for the connected device in the BT menu on the phone. It will list the headphones/car radio as phone and media audio and allows me to play music through them or use as bluetooth connection for calls, and skip tracks and play pause. For the watch it lists the connection type as internet use, and I can use the watch to view and skip tracks, view/answer/dismiss calls, reply to notifications. I am guessing the android wear devices will probably work the same way.
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Many thanks for the reply.
So, for all intents & purposes, I can, in real terms, keep the phone connected to both the watch & the in-car audio at the same time?
yep2345
greatcapp said:
Many thanks for the reply.
So, for all intents & purposes, I can, in real terms, keep the phone connected to both the watch & the in-car audio at the same time?
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Yes, you can
animefans said:
Yes, you can
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Thanks very much for your responses guys. I ended up ordering the Samsung instead of the LG in the end (Which is odd, as I dislike their phones).
I have a Galaxy Gear and keep it connected to my phone all the time as well as my LG Tone+ , I haven't experienced any issues with the two. I'm assuming that the Android Wear stuff will work similarly if not better.
Good question
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Trouble pairing phone with smart watch and bluetooth earbuds

I have a cheap Chinese smartwatch (unbranded DZ09) and I'm trying to use it to control music playback on my phone while also having the phone connected to bluetooth earbuds. I can connect the phone to only one of these at a time, but as soon as I'm pairing it with the earbuds it disconnects from the smartwatch and vice versa. I'm running the latest developer ROM, which I just installed hoping it would fix this problem, but to no avail.
Is there any way I can solve this?
EDIT: I actually can pair both of them at the same time, but I can't have media audio activated for both devices at the same time, which I seem to need for what I'm trying to do.

Amazfit Pace (1.3.6d-stock) cannoct connect any bluetooth headset

Hello XDA-Devs,
i bought a brand new Amazfit Pace (International) and updated firmware to latest stock. Setup was quite fine and watch paired with my Phone (Redmi Note 3 Pro) and Amazfit Watch App without any problems. I was also able to connect via MTP from Windows 10 PC and store some music on the watch.
Now i tried to connect my bluetooth headset (Bluetooth Bragi Dash Headphone) without any success. I put the Bragi Dash Headphone into pairing mode and in wacht BT menu it opens BT overview with blinking "Searching" indicator. After a while the blinking "Searching" indicator disappears and thats it. The Headphone does not show up. I also tried with a Bluetooth speaker with same result. Both, the Bragi Headphone and the bluetooth-speaker are working without any issues with my Phone, Windows tablets and other devices.
Any clue or same issue? Actually i like the design of the watch, but possibility to pair a bluetooth headset was a buying decision for me ..
thx and br
Arangato
1. Make sure the BT devices aren't paired with any other devices before trying to pair with watch;
2. If BT on watch is working fine, you should stay connect if you go away from your phone about 10m (without barriers), if connection drops 30-50cm from phone then maybe you have a problem with the watch's BT (weak connection due to bad antennae or BT chip);
3. Put phone and any other device around in Airplane mode (or switch other BT devices off), do the same to watch, then enable only BT and try to pair again. There are some known cases of WiFi/BT interference.
If everything fails, maybe the phone/speaker simply aren't compatible if they pair with other devices. Watch should be able to list other BT devices nearby, if the list is always empty, looks like BT is damaged. Try an unpair (reset) and pair again with another phone and/or account on Amazfit app. Good luck.
Hello lfom, thanks for fast reply. I did a factory reset and it still does not work with my Bragi Headphone (150€) (https://support.bragi.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000132569-The-Headphone-Technical-Specifications)
But one good news, i tried with a very cheap bluedio BT-Headset (9€) and surprisingly this headset i could directly connect to my Amazfit Pace watch and works fine...
... so it seems there is some general incompatibility... maybe related to BT 4.0 A2DP version. As you see here http://www.phonemore.com/xiaomi-amazfit/specs/3497 the Amazfit Pace should support BT 4.0 A2DP. I assume the Bragi Headphone does handle the protocolls correctly (had never any issues with them) and they are premium product... so unfortunately it seems we have to wait for fix fom Amazfit side.
Anyone else can report incompatible BT devices? Or maybe anyone else out there tried to connect a Bragi product?
Thx and br
Probably it cannot be fixed by Huami, as the the limitation is the hardware used in Pace (4.0BLE). I have read somewhere that Stratos uses a different BT chip and supports higher version, not sure if 4.1 or 4.2. There is a list of known compatible and incompatible devices in a Facebook group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/HuamiAmazfit.Pace.Smartwarch/permalink/344737925947591/
Thx lfom, i joined the group and seems that Bragi The Headphone does not work in general (others report that too). Sad that a standard protocol like bluetooth still seems to have compatabiliy issues. Have to live with it and use different BT-headphone. Thx for your help
Hi... my Kaidi headset will not pair Amazfit as well. I can pair Amazfit with iPhone and can pair Kaidi headset with iPhone but never Amazfit with Kaidi. Sad...

Jabra elite sport HRM with Stratos

Has anyone figured out how to get the watch to recognize these as a HRM yet? on the pairing list it shows up as a SMART senor but only gets paired as a headphone... any help?
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If you get it paired as headphone, you probably used the bluetooth menu in the global settings.
Use the accessories menu in the activity
fzelle said:
If you get it paired as headphone, you probably used the bluetooth menu in the global settings.
Use the accessories menu in the activity
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Your right this is a common mistake that's made however I did try in the accessories menu and it still wants to pair as a headphone.
Do you have this setup? Have you had any success with this?
No I don't, just pointing out the "ususal mistake".
Probably the developers didn't think that there are devices out there that can have more then one device definition.
Did you email support ?
Any response from Amazfit support regarding your HRM earpiece ?
can you pair them to your phone? does it pairs as one or two devices ?

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