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ok so basically i want to find a way to get to 4.3 either rooted or unrooted, my problem is that i have pretty bad ocd and one of my major major problems with that disorder is my tech devices, i will most likely have an anxsiety attack or 2 if i have to set up my phone from scratch and i will spend hours making it look exactly the same. anyway, i want to know:
1:how to update rooted gs3 Gt-i9305t 4g/lte model without loosing data (if possible )
2: update to 4.3 and un root without loosing data (im sure thats impossible )
i would really appreciate the help as i cannot find anyone looking for the same help as me (kinda strange how no one cares about there data at all, but meh)
also on a side note, i have the problem with my s3 where any sd card i put into the machine will eventually kill itself and never work again as far as i know, it has killed 3 32gb sd cards now and its starting to piss me off to the point where i am no longer using an sd card at all. why does the phone do this and is there any way to fix it? either software wise or hard wear wise? thanks !!! :fingers-crossed:
4.3 source code has only just been released. 4.3 roms are not fully functional and have bugs. There are no official releases so they are all "rooted".
You really do need to wipe when making version updates. Theres no way around this.
Stick with what you've got.
that just sucks.
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4.3 source code has only just been released. 4.3 roms are not fully functional and have bugs. There are no official releases so they are all "rooted".
You really do need to wipe when making version updates. Theres no way around this.
Stick with what you've got.
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that honestly sucks so much, thanks for the info though.
hey another quick question, is there a way to so a full backup, like im talking FULL, like down to the point of where ur apps are placed and all there data, like apple devices have through itunes?? (restore from backup option) cus if so then i dont mind wiping at all, i just hate apple so i will never go back to one of there piece of **** devices again (i like features with my shiny brick) but yeah anything like that? or can kies do that?
i'm using temasek 4.3 preview 3 atm, you should check it out since developer is extremely helpful
and he updates regularly (which is important)
There are a number of ways to keep your data. Including ones that will let you change the ROM and still have your data. Titanium Backup - not sure if it is only Pro version but the one I have lets me create a backup on the extSDcard so I can flash it in a new ROM and restore all my apps and data straight off. SMS Backup and restore and Call Backup and restore both save out your data to the extSDcard so you can bring them back. I used to use My Backup Root as well but it ceased to work on the last update so I nuked it.
Add in a nandroid backup on something like Philz Recovery (where you can do an Advanced Restore from External SDCard and bring back just parts of your current ROM) and you can always get back to your look & feel in any new ROM.
The one thing I ahve NOT found a solution for is replacing my widgets back on the screens they are on - I run 7 screens and it pisses me off a full recovery in something like Titanium doesn't restore my widgets. The only way it happens is a full nandroid restore but that nukes the new ROM I have just installed so that's not an option.
I run Purelook HD as my 1st ROM, GoogyMax kernel and SlimBean as my 2nd ROM. I can nuke either or both and be back to my set up (including widgets) in about 45 minutes.
Journyman16 said:
There are a number of ways to keep your data. Including ones that will let you change the ROM and still have your data. Titanium Backup - not sure if it is only Pro version but the one I have lets me create a backup on the extSDcard so I can flash it in a new ROM and restore all my apps and data straight off. SMS Backup and restore and Call Backup and restore both save out your data to the extSDcard so you can bring them back. I used to use My Backup Root as well but it ceased to work on the last update so I nuked it.
Add in a nandroid backup on something like Philz Recovery (where you can do an Advanced Restore from External SDCard and bring back just parts of your current ROM and you can always get back to your look & feel in any new ROM.
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Lets dissect this a little.
A Nandroid backup will take a snapshot of your phone. If you flash something wrong, it can be used to restore your data / settings and rom exactly how it was. This will not help restore your data and settings on a new ROM where you had to perform a wipe. (You have to perform a wipe to prevent data and settings incompatibilities with the new ROM that will cause problems.)
Titanium backup is great. However, if you had to perform a wipe, you cannot simply restore everything using Titanium. This is because you will be restoring the incompatabilities (System data) and restoring the problems (negating the point of the wipe in the first place). You can restore user apps and data with titanium but there will be an element of manually setting all your rom settings.
OP - Please read the "Read before rooting" thread in my signature for more info.
**** that
screw it, ill just stay on 4.2.1 i mostly want it cus they (****ING FINALLY ) partially fixed the setting wallpaper problems so you can get at least most of the photo in the screen now, i have it on my nexus 7 but now cant get it on my phone : / screw ocd, it has plagued me since i was little
adex9 said:
screw it, ill just stay on 4.2.1 i mostly want it cus they (****ING FINALLY ) partially fixed the setting wallpaper problems so you can get at least most of the photo in the screen now, i have it on my nexus 7 but now cant get it on my phone : / screw ocd, it has plagued me since i was little
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We all spend hours making it look exactly the same. It's annoying but essential.
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Lets dissect this a little.
A Nandroid backup will take a snapshot of your phone. If you flash something wrong, it can be used to restore your data / settings and rom exactly how it was. This will not help restore your data and settings on a new ROM where you had to perform a wipe. (You have to perform a wipe to prevent data and settings incompatibilities with the new ROM that will cause problems.)
Titanium backup is great. However, if you had to perform a wipe, you cannot simply restore everything using Titanium. This is because you will be restoring the incompatabilities (System data) and restoring the problems (negating the point of the wipe in the first place). You can restore user apps and data with titanium but there will be an element of manually setting all your rom settings.
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The Advanced Restore in Philz lets you restore Data. The choices are, Restore Boot, System (+or- reload) Data, Cache and sd ext. The Data restored my latest personal stuff from the BU I tried just before a new ROM experiment. So not all Restores are the same. You don't have to bring it ALL back from a nandroid.
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The Advanced Restore in Philz lets you restore Data. The choices are, Restore Boot, System (+or- reload) Data, Cache and sd ext. The Data restored my latest personal stuff from the BU I tried just before a new ROM experiment. So not all Restores are the same. You don't have to bring it ALL back from a nandroid.
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@Journyman16
You seem to be missing my point.
If you can restore just data via recovery (which you can) then you didn't need to wipe in the first place.
ROM goes in /system. We all know that. Our apps go in /data/app. We all know that. Our data for our apps goes in /data/data but what some may NOT know is that /data/data contains all your system data too. When you set a ring tone or wallpaper, its in /data/data.
If you go from 1 ROM to another, you may not have to wipe. Or you may HAVE to wipe. It depends if there is incompatible system data in /data/data or not.
When you do wipe, you wipe /data/* (includes /data/data). If you nandroid restore /data and your phone works perfectly, you didn't need to wipe. So my point remains.
If you HAD to wipe, you cannot simply restore data via recovery and have a fully working phone.
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@Journyman16
You seem to be missing my point.
If you can restore just data via recovery (which you can) then you didn't need to wipe in the first place.
ROM goes in /system. We all know that. Our apps go in /data/app. We all know that. Our data for our apps goes in /data/data but what some may NOT know is that /data/data contains all your system data too. When you set a ring tone or wallpaper, its in /data/data.
If you go from 1 ROM to another, you may not have to wipe. Or you may HAVE to wipe. It depends if there is incompatible system data in /data/data or not.
When you do wipe, you wipe /data/* (includes /data/data). If you nandroid restore /data and your phone works perfectly, you didn't need to wipe. So my point remains.
If you HAD to wipe, you cannot simply restore data via recovery and have a fully working phone.
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Thanks for the explanation - that helps me understand better what goes on. Would that explain perhaps why, after some Restores, I had to run Fix Permissions to stop the FC's?
Journyman16 said:
Thanks for the explanation - that helps me understand better what goes on. Would that explain perhaps why, after some Restores, I had to run Fix Permissions to stop the FC's?
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Yep, it could do.
Any updates (I am facing the same problem)?
BTW, OTA updates seem to be able to keep most if not all settings. How they manage to do this?
moshepupkin said:
Any updates (I am facing the same problem)?
BTW, OTA updates seem to be able to keep most if not all settings. How they manage to do this?
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Same here. I've been looking for the exact method to do this, but haven't had any luck so far.
I ended up using Kies to update to 4.3 - it does not check root status.
moshepupkin said:
I ended up using Kies to update to 4.3 - it does not check root status.
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Hmm, it says that my current firmware is the latest version, rather than 4.3. Is there anything special you're supposed to do?
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Hmm, it says that my current firmware is the latest version, rather than 4.3. Is there anything special you're supposed to do?
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Who says there is a 4.3 for your phone ???
JJEgan said:
Who says there is a 4.3 for your phone ???
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Well, let's see... there's everyone I know that also has this phone. People online that say they have this phone. Web sites saying that this phone has officially received 4.3. The phone itself saying there is an update for the firmware. So, basically everyone/thing except the Kies program.
Who says their is an update for your phone repeat your phone not some other guys phone and as you failed to give any firmware details impossible to check .
Kies/ Samsung says not for your phone yet.
Contact your vendor .
See multiple identical posts .
Flash stock rom through Odin from sammobile .com
JJEgan said:
Who says their is an update for your phone repeat your phone not some other guys phone and as you failed to give any firmware details impossible to check .
Kies/ Samsung says not for your phone yet.
Contact your vendor .
See multiple identical posts .
Flash stock rom through Odin from sammobile .com
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I already told you who said there is an update for my phone. Unless my phone is disguised as some one of a kind phone, I'm supposed to be able to update to 4.3.
So while i know how to normally backup and restore phones or apps through any number of different applications or recovery software. I had an issue today where i need to backup the state of the phone as it is now, and thrn modify or test with it on an emulated device (if possible, i was thinking my laptop runninng aosp android via some form of emulation.)
Is this possible? What is the difficulty of it?
What i would be taking the device backup from is a nexus 5 with lollipop, and then from there using that as a base, figure out what is going on with the software.
i had that same problem .. and i found a way to backup bootloader and recovery partitions, and i applied it to all partitions and it worked
http://www.theandroidhow.com/2014/05/how-to-make-backup-stock-boot-recovery.html
i had a trouble using flashtool, till i realized the flashtool version itself wasnt good
so i recommend
SP Flash Tool v3.1328.0.183: https://doc-14-c4-docs.googleuserco...8341683716159190/0B_r6upjBMmyGWWpSZHRmTHJLa0k
you will also need
mtkdroid : http://www.mediafire.com/download/w55w2j3l18nt1ws/Mtk_Droid_Tool_v2.5.3.rar
the method in the 1st link is illustrated for bootloader and recovery partition, i used it to backup all partition includidng system(android partition) and other partition i have no idea what are they, i just dont like to lose a useless digit
NOTICE: i didnt try it in restoring , but i think it works like bakcup/restore process of pc HDD
1 : do I have to be rooted to flash?
2 ; will sp flash tools flash the kernel too?
3 : what do I choose to keep apps and photos?
4 : do I choose firmware or download?
Pro4TLZZ said:
1 : do I have to be rooted to flash?
2 ; will sp flash tools flash the kernel too?
3 : what do I choose to keep apps and photos?
4 : do I choose firmware or download?
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Although I'm still learning a lot with andriod, (having used IOS iPhone jailbroken devices previously)
But I will try to advise / help as best I can -
1) No you dont have to be rooted to flash a ROM. You can flash a ROM and then install a custom recovery (eg like TWRP) and then you may root the device
2) As far as I am aware yes you can, although I am not really up to speed on Kernels
3) If you dont want to reinstall all your apps after a fresh ROM flash, you can use third party apps which backup all your apps (and their data).. there a numerous apps on PlayStore that can do this. Some only backup apps, some backup data and apps - ie Titanium BackUp backs up virtually everything as an example. As my photos / videos are automatically backed up to Google anyway, I never back them up as I can restore via Google anyway. My music collection (due to it being kinda very large) I simply just have that backup up on my PC and manually copy my music across once everything's restored.
4) I am assuming you are referring to SP Tools when flashing. My advice would be to basically do what I did and do a little reading of some threads on Flashing a ROM, there are lots of guides here within the Elephone P9000 section & also on the Elephone official site HERE
Sorry I know its pretty basic advice, but I'm learning too - my advice is to have a read of a few tutorials
Good luck :good:
jotei66 said:
Although I'm still learning a lot with andriod, (having used IOS iPhone jailbroken devices previously)
But I will try to advise / help as best I can -
1) No you dont have to be rooted to flash a ROM. You can flash a ROM and then install a custom recovery (eg like TWRP) and then you may root the device
2) As far as I am aware yes you can, although I am not really up to speed on Kernels
3) If you dont want to reinstall all your apps after a fresh ROM flash, you can use third party apps which backup all your apps (and their data).. there a numerous apps on PlayStore that can do this. Some only backup apps, some backup data and apps - ie Titanium BackUp backs up virtually everything as an example. As my photos / videos are automatically backed up to Google anyway, I never back them up as I can restore via Google anyway. My music collection (due to it being kinda very large) I simply just have that backup up on my PC and manually copy my music across once everything's restored.
4) I am assuming you are referring to SP Tools when flashing. My advice would be to basically do what I did and do a little reading of some threads on Flashing a ROM, there are lots of guides here within the Elephone P9000 section & also on the Elephone official site HERE
Sorry I know its pretty basic advice, but I'm learning too - my advice is to have a read of a few tutorials
Good luck :good:
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one last question. so i just load the scatter when i flash rom and it will flash kernel too?
jotei66 said:
Although I'm still learning a lot with andriod, (having used IOS iPhone jailbroken devices previously)
But I will try to advise / help as best I can -
1) No you dont have to be rooted to flash a ROM. You can flash a ROM and then install a custom recovery (eg like TWRP) and then you may root the device
2) As far as I am aware yes you can, although I am not really up to speed on Kernels
3) If you dont want to reinstall all your apps after a fresh ROM flash, you can use third party apps which backup all your apps (and their data).. there a numerous apps on PlayStore that can do this. Some only backup apps, some backup data and apps - ie Titanium BackUp backs up virtually everything as an example. As my photos / videos are automatically backed up to Google anyway, I never back them up as I can restore via Google anyway. My music collection (due to it being kinda very large) I simply just have that backup up on my PC and manually copy my music across once everything's restored.
4) I am assuming you are referring to SP Tools when flashing. My advice would be to basically do what I did and do a little reading of some threads on Flashing a ROM, there are lots of guides here within the Elephone P9000 section & also on the Elephone official site HERE
Sorry I know its pretty basic advice, but I'm learning too - my advice is to have a read of a few tutorials
Good luck :good:
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one last question. so i just load the scatter when i flash rom and it will flash kernel too? bcoz i want to get old kernel and rom back bcoz fast charging works there
I'm assuming you probably have the Aerom V5 Rom (maybe wrong there - but I know that has a fast charging issue)
My advice would be to follow this tutorial to get back to latest stock (P9000_Android 6.0_20160715) - read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ele...ck-stock-rom-elephone-p9000android-6-t3428253
And yes this would get you back to the old kernel.
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I'm assuming you probably have the Aerom V5 Rom (maybe wrong there - but I know that has a fast charging issue)
My advice would be to follow this tutorial to get back to latest stock (P9000_Android 6.0_20160715) - read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ele...ck-stock-rom-elephone-p9000android-6-t3428253
And yes this would get you back to the old kernel.
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no. i have latest stock rom whicg stops fast charging. thanks, i will backup my phone later today and then flash tommorow
jotei66 said:
I'm assuming you probably have the Aerom V5 Rom (maybe wrong there - but I know that has a fast charging issue)
My advice would be to follow this tutorial to get back to latest stock (P9000_Android 6.0_20160715) - read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ele...ck-stock-rom-elephone-p9000android-6-t3428253
And yes this would get you back to the old kernel.
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and last question, will this change my imei number?
No
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Hi. Recently I stuffed my ZTE Blade A452 with MIUI ROM found on here: hxxp://forum.android.com.pl/topic/319435-a452miui-v8-miui-global-8020. I also installed TWRP . I've been using it for a while and unfortunately it didn't meet my expectations. It is barely usable, phone crashes a few times a day, apps aren't kept in background.
I decided to come back to my stock ROM. I don't have, however, any back up of it. There are some sdcard packages on ZTE's support page, however when I tried to install it with TWRP, it displays that packages (all of them) are for device id P635F33, while my device is P635E40. And I found nothing for my dev id.
Is there a way to force installing one of those packages in my phone? Editing version.txt inside update.zip did nothing.
Maybe one of you guys have a matching package?
Also my sister's got the same model, Blade A452, bought at the same service provider. Maybe there is a way to extract a ROM from her phone and put it into mine? (Her device must be left quite untouched).
damiandbcz said:
Hi. Recently I stuffed my ZTE Blade A452 with MIUI ROM found on here: hxxp://forum.android.com.pl/topic/319435-a452miui-v8-miui-global-8020. I also installed TWRP . I've been using it for a while and unfortunately it didn't meet my expectations. It is barely usable, phone crashes a few times a day, apps aren't kept in background.
I decided to come back to my stock ROM. I don't have, however, any back up of it. There are some sdcard packages on ZTE's support page, however when I tried to install it with TWRP, it displays that packages (all of them) are for device id P635F33, while my device is P635E40. And I found nothing for my dev id.
Is there a way to force installing one of those packages in my phone? Editing version.txt inside update.zip did nothing.
Maybe one of you guys have a matching package?
Also my sister's got the same model, Blade A452, bought at the same service provider. Maybe there is a way to extract a ROM from her phone and put it into mine? (Her device must be left quite untouched).
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You Have a Same Phone Available .That is Great. You can give her Sleep Drug Sneak Into Her Room.Get the Phone From Under The pillow.And Now You can Unlock The bootloader flash TWRP Make a Backup and Then Flash Stock Recovery.Then Put The Phone Back Under The Pillow.The Process Will only Take about 30Mins.
5Min to unlock Bootloader
2.5Min to flash TWRP.
2.5Min to install stock Recovery
And 20 min to move the back Up
Or
You can Slice her Throat and Get the phone.Seriously Save 30Min of time.
Or
You can Backup Using a Desktop Application and Restore on your Phone.
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Atifbaig786 said:
You can Unlock The bootloader flash TWRP Make a Backup and Then Flash Stock Recovery
Or
You can Backup Using a Desktop Application and Restore on your Phone.
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Yeah, TWRP on her phone isn't an option, as the whole system is quite buggy and she's gonna probably use the restore option. I'm gonna try with some desktop apps and give an answer in 1-2 hours. Thank you.
Sorry it took so long to answer.
I couldn't make a nandroid backup any desktop app (MTK Droid Tools can't create scatter file, couldn't find any other app).
As I said, TWRP was not an option. But I managed to do the nandroid backup from phone-level anyways.
First I rooted the source device with KingRoot, installed on it BusyBox and made a custom TWRP-style backup on SDcard with Online Nandroid Backup *ROOT. Default settings are fine, even though it couldn't recognize my phone model.
Then I moved SD into target device and performed a backup with TWRP (just to create my device directory). Then I moved the source-phone backup into the new-created directory and performed Restore.
And Voila! On my phone there was a 1:1 copy of the system. It wiped out TWRP so I could perform a system Restore and get a factory-new soft.
Thank You. I didn't even realize it was possible to restore A-Backup on B-Device. Even though my sister's phone was a P635F33 (I didn't know it earlier) and mine was P635E40, it worked well.
damiandbcz said:
Sorry it took so long to answer.
I couldn't make a nandroid backup any desktop app (MTK Droid Tools can't create scatter file, couldn't find any other app).
As I said, TWRP was not an option. But I managed to do the nandroid backup from phone-level anyways.
First I rooted the source device with KingRoot, installed on it BusyBox and made a custom TWRP-style backup on SDcard with Online Nandroid Backup *ROOT. Default settings are fine, even though it couldn't recognize my phone model.
Then I moved SD into target device and performed a backup with TWRP (just to create my device directory). Then I moved the source-phone backup into the new-created directory and performed Restore.
And Voila! On my phone there was a 1:1 copy of the system. It wiped out TWRP so I could perform a system Restore and get a factory-new soft.
Thank You. I didn't even realize it was possible to restore A-Backup on B-Device. Even though my sister's phone was a P635F33 (I didn't know it earlier) and mine was P635E40, it worked well.
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It Did Work Right.I am Happy To Be of Your Assistance.
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Hi,
I run the pixel 6 and I wondered if I can restore my hardware as an image? I mean, when I used the back up / restore from Google drive , I got my contacts, apps but I still need to re download my apps, choose themes, setup about security, fingerprints, schema, Google pay etc.... Is it possible to skip all those things and upload a complete back up as an image, like I do with openwrt and firmware on router?
Thank you
Short answer: No. Longer answer: You can backup apps and their settings with the likes of Swift Backup, but that requires root and the remaining stuff still needs to be set up again.
Last time I restored my phone through Google I selected to restore all apps/contacts/settings and it basically restored the phone close to 100%. What was left for me to do was minimal.
android_dan said:
Last time I restored my phone through Google I selected to restore all apps/contacts/settings and it basically restored the phone close to 100%. What was left for me to do was minimal.
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What I understood finally is we can if we are on Android stable release
if we ever get TWRP as a custom recovery, this will be easy.
nutzfreelance said:
if we ever get TWRP as a custom recovery, this will be easy.
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Only if you're rooted for app data but TiB will not restore system settings. Have you ever used it?
AppDash
bobby janow said:
Only if you're rooted for app data but TiB will not restore system settings. Have you ever used it?
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you dont need to be rooted for twrp to work its a custom recovery
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you dont need to be rooted for twrp to work its a custom recovery
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I was thinking of something else. My mistake.
edit: @james8076 Even on a full wipe / factory reset most of the settings are restored including downloaded apps from the PS, text and phone logs. What isn't restored is app data like games along with some passwords that are not saved in Google.
@vandyman I used Appdash once but unless you are rooted it will not restore app data if I recall correctly.
The whole restore process isn't as difficult as it used to be even unrooted and bl locked. I can usually do the whole thing after PS downloads the apps in about a half hour or less. But... it's still a pain no doubt about that.