Could anyone please answer my questions
1) How is the custom Rom support for OnePlus devices?(XDA and elsewhere)
2) I am planning to buy OP3, what are your thoughts on this?
3) Also Is OnePlus's oxygen OS really frustrating ?
bhat_vikas said:
Could anyone please answer my questions
1) How is the custom Rom support for OnePlus devices?(XDA and elsewhere)
2) I am planning to buy OP3, what are your thoughts on this?
3) Also Is OnePlus's oxygen OS really frustrating ?
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1. Custom ROM support for their devices is amazing! Especially for the OnePlus One! Now that we have all of the sources we need and official CM for all of their devices, the level of development for all of their devices should become about even now.
2. The OP3 definitely looks like a nice, solid device. If you want to root and use custom ROMs with it though, I would wait for a month or two after the release to see what OnePlus does about providing the community with the device sources. I would also wait for the next Nexii (Google Phones) to be released for this year if they aren't too terribly expensive where you're located.
3. Oxygen OS is now a pretty solid looking ROM. It doesn't have too much customization, but what it DOES have seems to work pretty well. If you don't want or need the features of a custom ROM, if is definitely fast and stable enough to be used as a daily driver.
Good luck to you and your endeavours with OnePlus!!
jbw716 said:
1. Custom ROM support for their devices is amazing! Especially for the OnePlus One! Now that we have all of the sources we need and official CM for all of their devices, the level of development for all of their devices should become about even now.
2. The OP3 definitely looks like a nice, solid device. If you want to root and use custom ROMs with it though, I would wait for a month or two after the release to see what OnePlus does about providing the community with the device sources. I would also wait for the next Nexii (Google Phones) to be released for this year if they aren't too terribly expensive where you're located.
3. Oxygen OS is now a pretty solid looking ROM. It doesn't have too much customization, but what it DOES have seems to work pretty well. If you don't want or need the features of a custom ROM, if is definitely fast and stable enough to be used as a daily driver.
Good luck to you and your endeavours with OnePlus!!
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Thank you for detailed answer and for your time.
Indeed Nexus 6p is expensive. I would have bought it now if it was snapdragon 820.
Will wait though for next nexus.
Hi guys
With the arrived of Android 7 on the Elephone P9000 (finally ).
Why do not we start a project with Lineageos 14?
Unfortunately I am incompetent for this, but I'm sure there are people here capable.
I started this thread more as an incentive for us to start this port.
# LineageOs14OnP9000 \0/
A current ResurrectionRemix would be much better
I am also looking forward to a new RR ☺. Love this ROM and the endless customization options.
LordHelmchen89 said:
A current ResurrectionRemix would be much better
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Sure will! But all those based on Android Nougat
i dont have the feeling to miss something with android 6 to be honest, what are the main differences between the two?
Just thought I'd make a thread about discussing the next version of Lineage OS. Lineage OS 15 is going to be out officially for our Axon 7 soon after the source code for Android 8.0 is released.
Haha how do you know that? I doubt that.
If past experience is any indication, I wouldn't expect it until about November.
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OrdenKrieger said:
Haha how do you know that? I doubt that.
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Just from common sense - why wouldn't it be? Lineage is officially maintained for our device. It makes a TON of sense that we would get it as soon as the first official nightly builds of lineage OS 15 starts rolling out.
ethanscooter said:
Just from common sense - why wouldn't it be? Lineage is officially maintained for our device. It makes a TON of sense that we would get it as soon as the first official nightly builds of lineage OS 15 starts rolling out.
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Doesn't mean that there is always some1 to maintain the device.
Edit: BTW I don't think that blogspot pages like http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/ being the best source.
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ethanscooter said:
Just from common sense - why wouldn't it be? Lineage is officially maintained for our device. It makes a TON of sense that we would get it as soon as the first official nightly builds of lineage OS 15 starts rolling out.
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I don't think you understand how Android development work.
Google has to release the source (done 8-21)
SOC vendor has to adapt and do the BSP (required for this phone -- last time if they upgrade us to Treble support, but unlikely since we also need drivers for the DAC -- otherwise every release)
ZTE has to get that package and adapt it to our specific hardware devices and port of their UI and internal software
ZTE release the kernel source for the compatible version
Then there is the Lineage side
Lineage devs import AOSP
devs port all of the Lineage code and features over to new base
willing dev(s) take our device kernel source and merge over to Lineage and start doing device bring up and bug fixing
device has to be working fully before it's allowed to be called "official" on Lineage
That's a lot of steps. There is no guarantee ZTE will release the necessary support for us to even get LOS 15. Now, since the HW is similar, we might be able to get it from other devices that do (namely the OP3/3T), but that still leaves lots of issues for our more custom hardware (camera and audio). We will probably have unofficial builds that boot not super far in the future after QC release the 820 BSP, but getting the full hardware up will depend on ZTE doing a release.
This should get vastly easier once a device has Treble support (so O-launching devices and newer and the few that get backported) as long as Lineage also supports that feature.
OEM's are now required to provide support for two full yrs
TeutonJon78 said:
I don't think you understand how Android development work.
Google has to release the source (done 8-21)
SOC vendor has to adapt and do the BSP (required for this phone -- last time if they upgrade us to Treble support, but unlikely since we also need drivers for the DAC -- otherwise every release)
ZTE has to get that package and adapt it to our specific hardware devices and port of their UI and internal software
ZTE release the kernel source for the compatible version
Then there is the Lineage side
Lineage devs import AOSP
devs port all of the Lineage code and features over to new base
willing dev(s) take our device kernel source and merge over to Lineage and start doing device bring up and bug fixing
device has to be working fully before it's allowed to be called "official" on Lineage
That's a lot of steps. There is no guarantee ZTE will release the necessary support for us to even get LOS 15. Now, since the HW is similar, we might be able to get it from other devices that do (namely the OP3/3T), but that still leaves lots of issues for our more custom hardware (camera and audio). We will probably have unofficial builds that boot not super far in the future after QC release the 820 BSP, but getting the full hardware up will depend on ZTE doing a release.
This should get vastly easier once a device has Treble support (so O-launching devices and newer and the few that get backported) as long as Lineage also supports that feature.
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You are acting like we don't have aosp working at all. LOS 14 is working great and from there its not nearly as much work as you describe to get LOS 15 working. Yes, in the beginning it did take a lot of work but now that aosp is established, its not nearly as difficult.
Jaredsk74 said:
You are acting like we don't have aosp working at all. LOS 14 is working great and from there its not nearly as much work as you describe to get LOS 15 working. Yes, in the beginning it did take a lot of work but now that aosp is established, its not nearly as difficult.
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It's not about AOSP , you can't build for non Google devices without CAF which hasn't been brought up yet.. It'll be a good month or so
kdp162 said:
OEM's are now required to provide support for two full yrs
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No they are not, it's optional, there is no incentive for them to do so
TeutonJon78 said:
I don't think you understand how Android development work.
Google has to release the source (done 8-21)
SOC vendor has to adapt and do the BSP (required for this phone -- last time if they upgrade us to Treble support, but unlikely since we also need drivers for the DAC -- otherwise every release)
ZTE has to get that package and adapt it to our specific hardware devices and port of their UI and internal software
ZTE release the kernel source for the compatible version
Then there is the Lineage side
Lineage devs import AOSP
devs port all of the Lineage code and features over to new base
willing dev(s) take our device kernel source and merge over to Lineage and start doing device bring up and bug fixing
device has to be working fully before it's allowed to be called "official" on Lineage
That's a lot of steps. There is no guarantee ZTE will release the necessary support for us to even get LOS 15. Now, since the HW is similar, we might be able to get it from other devices that do (namely the OP3/3T), but that still leaves lots of issues for our more custom hardware (camera and audio). We will probably have unofficial builds that boot not super far in the future after QC release the 820 BSP, but getting the full hardware up will depend on ZTE doing a release.
This should get vastly easier once a device has Treble support (so O-launching devices and newer and the few that get backported) as long as Lineage also supports that feature.
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How come my Moto G 2013 still gets newest LOS then? Does that mean that Motorola still does the above things? Not questioning you, just wondering.
Jaredsk74 said:
You are acting like we don't have aosp working at all. LOS 14 is working great and from there its not nearly as much work as you describe to get LOS 15 working. Yes, in the beginning it did take a lot of work but now that aosp is established, its not nearly as difficult.
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You can compile AOSP for just about anything. It's getting ALL the hardware working correctly on a new release that's a problem. Sure, it might boot, but if you don't have audio or accelerated graphics, that's an issue. Once you have a working version from the vendor, then it's a lot simpler than just putting it together before that. And nothing happens if you don't have the drivers from the SoC vendors. That's why Project Treble is such a big deal, because if it works as intended, it will remove the need for those new drivers to get a new version of Android, because the HW abstraction layer will make the older drives work.
Waancho said:
How come my Moto G 2013 still gets newest LOS then? Does that mean that Motorola still does the above things? Not questioning you, just wondering.
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It could be that Motorola is releasing the drivers/SW updates. It really depends on the underlying hardware. If there is another device with the same hardware getting updated, those drivers can be pulled over and incorporated (the A7 has pulled a lot from the OP3). Or there are open source driver versions that could be pulled in.
Our biggest issue is that the audio chip we have isn't really on any/many other devices. So getting fully working drivers for that is a more limiting factor, than a Moto G 2013, which probably doesn't have anything outside of the standard QC SoC stuff.
And in the end, it comes down to the devs keeping stuff up to date. The Galaxy S2 is still running official LOS 14.1, because there are some crazy ass devs out there still getting stuff working on it. The more popular and easy to work a phone is, the more likely it will see longer 3rd party support. Sadly, the A7 is a little limited in both fronts combined with custom HW bits. The devs have done amazing work so far.
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You are acting like we don't have aosp working at all. LOS 14 is working great and from there its not nearly as much work as you describe to get LOS 15 working. Yes, in the beginning it did take a lot of work but now that aosp is established, its not nearly as difficult.
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I disagree that LOS on 14.x works great. I tried various builds and kernels for about 6 months. I dropped back to a rooted stock since the gpu and audio support was awful. I have a much better experience than I had on LOS or RR. I could barely even use my daydream with it.
therock11 said:
I disagree that LOS on 14.x works great. I tried various builds and kernels for about 6 months. I dropped back to a rooted stock since the gpu and audio support was awful. I have a much better experience than I had on LOS or RR. I could barely even use my daydream with it.
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For gamers and daydream users that could be true.
When it comes to usability, privacy and customizations the LOS based ROMs are the first choice.
The audio issues are just minimal when you combine Dolby Atmos mod with custom rom.
So have you guys taken a look at Ordenkriger's post on the boot up of Lineage 15 with all the progress and what not?
We are getting LOS 15 a.k.a Oreo for our device http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/
Cyberwolf2 said:
We are getting LOS 15 a.k.a Oreo for our device http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/
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That's not an official source
bkores said:
That's not an official source
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Ordenkrieger and Unjustified Dev think's otherwise..https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/oh-lineageos-15-t3668956
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Motorola finally releases Oreo Kernal source code..
https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm/releases/tag/MMI-OPW27.57-40
Expect some goodies today :victory:
It's GREAT to see some action on this. I haven't unlocked my bootloader yet, but between Magisk and a kernel, I'm very tempted. Many thanks to this great community!
Does this mean that quality of roms for the x4 in the future will be on the same level as phones that have Project Treble,
or will the Quality of roms on treble. enabled phones likely still have significantly less bugs?
I'm asking because i wonder if its worth selling the moto x4 to buy a treble enabled phone.
i dont really care about having the newest android version, i just want to have security updates every few months after motorola has pulled the plug on official support.
pietpietersen said:
Does this mean that quality of roms for the x4 in the future will be on the same level as phones that have Project Treble,
or will the Quality of roms on treble. enabled phones likely still have significantly less bugs?
I'm asking because i wonder if its worth selling the moto x4 to buy a treble enabled phone.
i dont really care about having the newest android version, i just want to have security updates every few months after motorola has pulled the plug on official support.
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i really doubt 6gb version is having treble.
kraatus90 said:
i really doubt 6gb version is having treble.
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Phones that come out on Oreo, must have treble according to Google's new policies.
But the question I posed was, if treble is really all that important.
If the community has the oreo kernel source codes like the ones above, isn't it possible to continue to provide security updates for this phone without making the phone become buggy? (Which is often the case when one runs something like LineageOS if i'm not mistaken)
pietpietersen said:
Phones that come out on Oreo, must have treble according to Google's new policies.
But the question I posed was, if treble is really all that important.
If the community has the oreo kernel source codes like the ones above, isn't it possible to continue to provide security updates for this phone without making the phone become buggy? (Which is often the case when one runs something like LineageOS if i'm not mistaken)
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But the phone didn't really launch with oreo, it's upgrade has oreo out of the box. i'm pretty sure Motorola will find a way to dodge the bullet here.
Anyway, about security updates, nobody can say for sure. we don't even have 100% fully featured twrp yet. roms are long shot. with kernel source you can have latest security updates that are kernel side only. rom side fixes/updates cannot be done by kernel. hope that helps.
Oh, I thought that the Treble thing was already confirmed. Bummer