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You're a power user. Can the honor 5X keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the honor 5X. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Hoping for more love to be given to this KIWI devices
How can there be any development for Android 6.0 without the gorram Sources and Binaries. Honor is still holding out, saying they need to beta-test their proprietary ****e. Somehow I kind of doubt that we'll see official Marshmallow/EMUI4.0 before the friggin' year is up.
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How can there be any development for Android 6.0 without the gorram Sources and Binaries. Honor is still holding out, saying they need to beta-test their proprietary ****e. Somehow I kind of doubt that we'll see official Marshmallow/EMUI4.0 before the friggin' year is up.
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I am a beta tester and I would guess another month or so. Software is pretty close. So patience, they aren't holding out. They have actually been very forthcoming and helpful to folks here at XDA.
I hope someone with knowledge about kernels would step up and create a custom kernel so that we can overclock and optimize.
Developement is below average. To compare, my HTC HD2 had excellent custom roms available, my Samsung Galaxy Note I had a fair ammount of roms available with most functionality working properly. The Honor 5X currently has no rom with all the basic hardware working (mainly the fingerprint reader). Whatever the reason is, I can say that currently you should not buy this device if you want a custom rom as your daily driver.
Check the custom roms section if you want to see the recent developements. Check out the CyanogenMod roms, since all the others are based upon that AFAIK. If there is still stuff listed as not working (hardware) then wait a little longer or go for another device if you want to have custom roms.
Do not agree with KoeWaffle at all, with exception of fingerprint. Good choice of main custom roms, does not matter if cm based, that can be used as daily drivers... way better than stock!
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Do not agree with KoeWaffle at all, with exception of fingerprint. Good choice of main custom roms, does not matter if cm based, that can be used as daily drivers... way better than stock!
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All current custom roms are CM based. There is pretty much 1 custom rom with many variations available. The device has been out for less than half a year, so it is really not a surprise nor an attack to this community.
This phone offers a slick design and a fingerpint sensor as major selling points. One of it is not working. How does it offer more than a similar phone from another brand then? Despite what others may think of it, I personally really like the fingerprint sensor and do not want to sacrifice it for a more vanilla experience (plenty of other phones offering that from the get go at a lower price). People should just be mindful of it. If they want a different software experience with the samd phone it is just not ready yet...
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All current custom roms are CM based. There is pretty much 1 custom rom with many variations available. The device has been out for less than half a year, so it is really not a surprise nor an attack to this community.
This phone offers a slick design and a fingerpint sensor as major selling points. One of it is not working. How does it offer more than a similar phone from another brand then? Despite what others may think of it, I personally really like the fingerprint sensor and do not want to sacrifice it for a more vanilla experience (plenty of other phones offering that from the get go at a lower price). People should just be mindful of it. If they want a different software experience with the samd phone it is just not ready yet...
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I for one wouldn't say development is "below average". What would you consider average, for starters? The 5X was, as you said, released quite recently, and we already have bootloader unlocking, TWRP, and root access available as additional options here in the forums, not to mention a (small, ok, but still) number of different custom ROMs including CyanogenMod. To me, there's really not many other "important" things beyond this, except for custom tweaks for every model (the Honor has some as well).
Really, the only "big thing" we'd be missing here on regards to modding would be an easy Xposed install - I say easy because many users have already got it, but afaik it's not a simple flashable .zip but system file editing as well. Not a big deal for a truly tech-savvy person like those who roam the XDA forums, though.
I'm not arguing the selling points; it's true, the fingerprint sensor was a major differentiator considering this phone's market range and price, and many phones have followed the (its?) example. But then again, it's just one feature, and it's already been mentioned multiple times that its implementation is close in time.
I wouldn't advise people to get another phone just because of a lack of fingerprint support on custom ROMs or a kind-of difficult Xposed installation. That is, unless they want to get another phone for like, a month, before coming back and buying the 5X - lol!
Of course, not an attack, just my humble opinion.
ElBerretin said:
I for one wouldn't say development is "below average". 1 What would you consider average, for starters? The 5X was, as you said, released quite recently, and we already have bootloader unlocking, TWRP, and root access available as additional options here in the forums, not to mention a (small, ok, but still) number of different custom ROMs including CyanogenMod. To me, there's really not many other "important" things beyond this, except for custom tweaks for every model (the Honor has some as well).
2 I'm not arguing the selling points; it's true, the fingerprint sensor was a major differentiator considering this phone's market range and price, and many phones have followed the (its?) example. But then again, it's just one feature, and it's already been mentioned multiple times that its implementation is close in time.
3 I wouldn't advise people to get another phone just because of a lack of fingerprint support on custom ROMs or a kind-of difficult Xposed installation. That is, unless they want to get another phone for like, a month, before coming back and buying the 5X - lol!
Of course, not an attack, just my humble opinion.
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1 - Maybe a poor choice of words, what I am implying is the availability of complete and sound roms is below my average experience (that being the HTC Leo / HD2, DesireHD and N7000). In due time we might see complete custom roms, but that time is not now and I do not think we can say yet whether it will happen for sure (the developers are not paid to do this).
2 - It has been close for months now, they're waiting on Huawai to release the sources. Some say the sources have already been released but I haven't checked them out myself. For now it is not available and thus I say the available roms are incomplete.
3 - I would, if they want to buy a phone now and have a custom rom as a daily driver (/w all functionality) then it just isn't ready yet. Most people want a custom rom to get rid of the EMUI completely. And no, once you buy that other phone you probably stick with it. So if you want a more vanilla Android experience and don't care about the fingerprint sensor, pick the cheaper phone.
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1 - Maybe a poor choice of words, what I am implying is the availability of complete and sound roms is below my average experience (that being the HTC Leo / HD2, DesireHD and N7000). In due time we might see complete custom roms, but that time is not now and I do not think we can say yet whether it will happen for sure (the developers are not paid to do this).
2 - It has been close for months now, they're waiting on Huawai to release the sources. Some say the sources have already been released but I haven't checked them out myself. For now it is not available and thus I say the available roms are incomplete.
3 - I would, if they want to buy a phone now and have a custom rom as a daily driver (/w all functionality) then it just isn't ready yet. Most people want a custom rom to get rid of the EMUI completely. And no, once you buy that other phone you probably stick with it. So if you want a more vanilla Android experience and don't care about the fingerprint sensor, pick the cheaper phone.
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1-Now that's something I can agree with
2-The sources were released iirc, but as you said developers are not paid for this so it's a game of wait and see
3-I would suggest people give EMUI a try for a while after buying the phone. It's not like I love it, but come on; the specs aren't anything out of this world, I know that, so if you so desperately want a custom ROM that you can't wait for a day- just get another phone, don't even consider the Honor 5X, or any phone that comes with a skin for that matter. Besides, the wait makes it more worthwile imo, how can you know how much better a ROM is than EMUI if you haven't actually run EMUI to begin with? Again, just my opinion...
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not happy with honor..... and dont even know if update comes or not think like jst making fool.......
using honor 5x and 6p from last 4 months have got any update even security patch in honor while in 6p it comes every month...... wer saying that we will get update of android 6.0 in last may but its naw june and no responce.................
disappointed
Matter of opinion, I respect yours and fully agree with huawei ****ty update policy. At least they open bl and share some sources,which are, at least on qualcomm based huaweis, usable to some extent. I have different opinion on development strength, I see no problem with using crpalmers base (cm) for other ROMs as it working well w/o bugs mentioned by u. The last real things that are to be fixed are fingerprint (on the way,fixed by surdu petru ) and HDR mode on camera.
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Lol, where r good old times when LEO development started and bricks and following recoveries of thosr were daily practice
Yes, huawei update policy is...
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i was kinda afraid of development due to the fact that it is an honor device,bt now am happy that it has official cm13 and other cm based roms.
Very premium feeling phone for the price range, good features. Don't care that much for EMUI though, it's a bit iPhone-y and limited.
CM12 and CM13 ROMS are well represented here, and hope to see some Nougat/CM14 love here soon
Good support considering its huawei
A lot of ROMs hère so one for every taste.
If you are flasholic, you can get drunk with your honor5x : )
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im a flashaholic!!
I made more than 10 ROMs. I hope that's good for everybody.
Anyone else see this:
https://9to5google.com/2016/09/19/zte-is-working-to-bring-an-official-cyanogenmod-rom-to-the-axon-7/
Yes, it's been discussed in the CM dev topic.
xtermmin said:
Yes, it's been discussed in the CM dev topic.
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What most are not realizing, is that there are two versions of Cyanogen built operating systems. Cyanogen OS is built by Cyanogen Inc. for the device manufacturer and the other is community driven and is open source. These two operating systems may be identical in how they operate once on the device, but how they are developed is different. The question is which one is actually being developed?
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What most are not realizing, is that there are two versions of Cyanogen built operating systems. Cyanogen OS is built by Cyanogen Inc. for the device manufacturer and the other is community driven and is open source. These two operating systems may be identical in how they operate once on the device, but how they are developed is different. The question is which one is actually being developed?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/cyanogenmod-13-a2017u-t3457410/page10
If it is a true CyanogenMod rom, that means ZTE would have to release proprietary source codes for open source development. They have not done that as of this writing. So more than likely a Cyanogen operating system will be created for this device totally in house, thereby not allowing for future development by the "open source" community of devs.
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If it is a true CyanogenMod rom, that means ZTE would have to release proprietary source codes for open source development. They have not done that as of this writing. So more than likely a Cyanogen operating system will be created for this device totally in house, thereby not allowing for future development by the "open source" community of devs.
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From what I'm gathering from the discussions on the ZTE Community forums and the Cyanogenmod dev topic I linked, it seems that ZTE is sending their code to Cyanogen employee Steve Kondik to create an official cyanogenmod github for the A7, not that Cyanogen the company is going to create a CyanogenOS for the device.
Only for USA.
rikin93 said:
Only for USA.
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Correction: Only for unlocked bootloaders, as it will not be officially signed by ZTE.
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From what I'm gathering from the discussions on the ZTE Community forums and the Cyanogenmod dev topic I linked, it seems that ZTE is sending their code to Cyanogen employee Steve Kondik to create an official cyanogenmod github for the A7, not that Cyanogen the company is going to create a CyanogenOS for the device.
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Based on what I have seen and heard, the difference between OS and Mod is nill. They are exactly the same. The difference between the two is how they are developed. One is open source and can be shared by the general public, the other is developed in house for the device manufacturer and proprietary information is kept in house and not shared. The two are quite often just referred to as CyanogenMod, although they are different.
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Based on what I have seen and heard, the difference between OS and Mod is nill. They are exactly the same. The difference between the two is how they are developed. One is open source and can be shared by the general public, the other is developed in house for the device manufacturer and proprietary information is kept in house and not shared. The two are quite often just referred to as CyanogenMod, although they are different.
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There's a huge difference between CyanogenOS and CyanogenMod behind the scenes though. Like you said, CyanogenOS is in-house, but most importantly it tends to include bloatware, especially now that Cyanogen the company is owned by Microsoft. And since it's closed source, people who want to develop custom ROMs will still have no access to the sources that would speed up development. Plus, if there are bugs or features that people want to implement, they can't, and have to wait for Cyanogen to release them. This also means that things such as security patches will have to wait for official rollout by Cyanogen.
Cyanogenmod, however, is open source, not controlled by Cyanogen the company at all, bug fixes / features can be added and addressed by the community, security patches can be applied to nightlies quickly, etc.
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If it is a true CyanogenMod rom, that means ZTE would have to release proprietary source codes for open source development. They have not done that as of this writing. So more than likely a Cyanogen operating system will be created for this device totally in house, thereby not allowing for future development by the "open source" community of devs.
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It's been clarified multiple times on the ZTE forum that it will be CyanogenMod, not CyanogenOS. Unless there's some weird, first-time-in-history NDA regarding the HALs / overlay that ZTE provides for the development of CM, they will be open source.
If they did offer open source at least it would alleviate concerns on the Chinese state-sponsored company reputation
Finally, the best hardware of 2016 and all it needs is aosp love... I hope this helps to spur more development or makes it easier for our fantastic developers at XDA.
From what I read from the Employees at ZTE Forums, ZTE currently doesn't want to deal with setting up a place for Devs to access the needed resources for things, so they're basically going to just dump it all on CyanogenMod for them to sort it out. It's easier for the ZTE higher-ups to swallow that way.
Do we have any ETA on this ?
I fear than the OP3 will get more love from the dev, and that the Axon 7 will be forgotten :/
rczrider said:
It's been clarified multiple times on the ZTE forum that it will be CyanogenMod, not CyanogenOS. Unless there's some weird, first-time-in-history NDA regarding the HALs / overlay that ZTE provides for the development of CM, they will be open source.
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Don't count on anything "open" from ZTE. It really doesn't matter what they may say, the reality this phone doesn't have much more than the day it was released.
Araewuir said:
Do we have any ETA on this ?
I fear than the OP3 will get more love from the dev, and that the Axon 7 will be forgotten :/
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The oneplus one still gets more dev support than the Nexus 6p. Oneplus devices get pretty much the best dev support period. That being said, more devs are starting to get the axon 7, but we're never going to be at the oneplus 3 level of support. The oneplus 3 is supported by SultanXDA, flar2, Franco, despair, and dozens more. It had official cm13 support as soon as it was released. It has official support from paranoid Android, elemental x, Franco kernel, PAC rom, dirty unicorns, and pretty much every other rom and kernel you've ever heard of. I love the Axon, but I don't it's ever going to get that kind of support.
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Don't count on anything "open" from ZTE. It really doesn't matter what they may say, the reality this phone doesn't have much more than the day it was released.
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Okay.
xxBrun0xx said:
The oneplus one still gets more dev support than the Nexus 6p. Oneplus devices get pretty much the best dev support period. That being said, more devs are starting to get the axon 7, but we're never going to be at the oneplus 3 level of support. The oneplus 3 is supported by SultanXDA, flar2, Franco, despair, and dozens more. It had official cm13 support as soon as it was released. It has official support from paranoid Android, elemental x, Franco kernel, PAC rom, dirty unicorns, and pretty much every other rom and kernel you've ever heard of. I love the Axon, but I don't it's ever going to get that kind of support.
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I feel like the last phone I owned with that level of support was the Nexus 4.
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Okay.
I feel like the last phone I owned with that level of support was the Nexus 4.
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One Plus released everything before the phone even hit the market, so there was development for the One Plus 3 from the beginning. The Axon, in my opinion, is a very good device, but ZTE has limited development of this product. It is almost as though they are perfectly happy being an iPhone/Apple wannabe.
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From what I read from the Employees at ZTE Forums, ZTE currently doesn't want to deal with setting up a place for Devs to access the needed resources for things, so they're basically going to just dump it all on CyanogenMod for them to sort it out. It's easier for the ZTE higher-ups to swallow that way.
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Which is never a good thing. Especially when they admit they don't care.
As a Sprint subscriber I'm locked out of the Axon7 until Sprint stop being dickbags about BYOD, which most likely will be never. If that changes, I'll probably buy an A7 if CM actually appears in a timely fashion since Shamu is being dropped by Google very shortly.
...but dumping code on the community and expecting them to make it right is massively annoying at best. It is exactly what Google does with AOSP....The Nougat AOSP is seriously broken and takes a ton of effort to fix enough just to get to compile. The stock AOSP GApps packages are all in varying stages of brokenness as of now. Sure they release the source, but what you get doesn't compile without a ton of forensic work.
Nougat has been on Nexus for over a month (minus Shamu)...and it is not going well.
So Android P rolled out, and I was wondering, we've been blessed with devs work and got every great update and tons of rom for this device. And was wondering is there by any chance getting Android P based roms in future. Also I was specially wondering about RR, because I like that a rom alot.
Well will we be getting android P, or I shouldn't get my hopes up?
Just wait patiently. The sources are available, just wait until a dev cooks a build for kenzo. Or when proper GSIs will be available.
Sure thing buddy, by any chance you also want VoLTE and 10 hours SOT?
Nobody maintains Kenzo for income, just because they feel like sparing time, for crying out loud it was just formally announced today, so if you want P go ahead and build it on your own.
Just stop this kind of threads, they are just spam.
BusterBg_18 said:
Sure thing buddy, by any chance you also want VoLTE and 10 hours SOT?
Nobody maintains Kenzo for income, just because they feel like sparing time, for crying out loud it was just formally announced today, so if you want P go ahead and build it on your own.
Just stop this kind of threads, they are just spam.
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Could like please take your hate and get the hell out of this thread.
Like seriously, I'm just genuinely asking a question, so its not a spam, and I asked BECAUSE P came out today. If you don't wanna answer just ignore this, not a hard thing to do.
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Could like please take your hate and get the hell out of this thread.
Like seriously, I'm just genuinely asking a question, so its not a spam, and I asked BECAUSE P came out today. If you don't wanna answer just ignore this, not a hard thing to do.
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Sorry, the devs need income and now the devs like @rocknegi have started p**n for ₹50/day or ₹200/month cause the users aren't donating enough money.
If they get enough income from p**n selling, they will develop Android P for you.
Daruwalla said:
Sorry, the devs need income and now the devs like @rocknegi have started p**n for ₹50/day or ₹200/month cause the users aren't donating enough money.
If they get enough income from p**n selling, they will develop Android P for you.
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Yeah I saw that as well. Look I just wanted to know of there was a possibility of kenzo getting a p, coz yk, this is pretty old device.
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Yeah I saw that as well. Look I just wanted to know of there was a possibility of kenzo getting a p, coz yk, this is pretty old device.
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I know but just use some sense? We are not devs, we are normal users like you. How do we all users know if a dev can develop Android P. Plus, do you think a dev will announce 'Hey Niggas, I'll develop Android P rom for you all niggas asking for it, wait for few hours:. No?
The dev need to look into the source, need time to see what all bugs needs to be fixed, else users like you will come here and say it's buggy, that doesn't work, this doesn't work right?
Another sensible answer: Android P sources are just released. It's not like magic to develop rom directly from the source. Needs a lot of hack, back port blobs and things we don't even understand.
Summary: it's a redundant question as of now. Please wait, if there's a Android P rom, you will see it here. Till than, enjoy other roms.
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Sorry, the devs need income and now the devs like @rocknegi have started p**n for ₹50/day or ₹200/month cause the users aren't donating enough money.
If they get enough income from p**n selling, they will develop Android P for you.
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Disaster! Time to join negi ?
Nick_gunale said:
Disaster! Time to join negi
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Free p**n sites aren't enough for you? ?
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Free p**n sites aren't enough for you?
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need income lol
As a user of redmi note 3 . i just hope dev make android p for this device.
As one of the lineage 15.1 maker for Redmi Note 3, yep, we will do bringup after 9.0 source code release, and should be easier than Oreo, as Pie impacted a lot of backport comparable, please don't ask lots of annoying OTA, follow XDA rule, P will be coming to Kenzo/Kate after sometimes, but for Treble is more harder as blobs are old, we need to wait hydrogen and suzu devices etc updates for new blobs, for more Treble working, and even CAF for msm8952 board not impacted treble, unlike msm8953 board, so treble now is experimental and don't expect stable treble in a short time.
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And for my lineage 15.1 long time no updates because I teams with @Carlos Arriaga, and he is back in July so I and other team members need to do some updates, my 15.1 new build will release soon
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As one of the lineage 15.1 maker for Redmi Note 3, yep, we will do bringup after 9.0 source code release, and should be easier than Oreo, as Pie impacted a lot of backport comparable, please don't ask lots of annoying OTA, follow XDA rule, P will be coming to Kenzo/Kate after sometimes, but for Treble is more harder as blobs are old, we need to wait hydrogen and suzu devices etc updates for new blobs, for more Treble working, and even CAF for msm8952 board not impacted treble, unlike msm8953 board, so treble now is experimental and don't expect stable treble in a short time.
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Thanks for this reply. Won't be asking for annoying updates, just wanted to know that is all.
Well, speaking of Android Pie development, I've found a Pixel Experience ROM that is based on Android Pie through a Telegram channel
Known broken features:
• Bluetooth
• VoLTE
• Stock camera app, but the camera works for stills and video (Open Camera)
(link: http://t.me/TheStrechh) t.me/TheStrechh (the author)
(link: http://t.me/KenzoRoms_News) t.me/KenzoRoms_News
(link: http://t.me/kenzoromnews) t.me/kenzoromnews
NOTA BENE: Try it at your own risk, as it is not developed by me, but if you want to download it and try it, here's the link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KqyUEdUgtW5coyoTlHuuN0Y2Jt1aKnn-
Yep. I've been using the Pixel Experience 9.0 from @thestrechh as my daily driver for a couple days now.
It's usable if you can get by without VoLTE and Bluetooth.
Gcam works, but can't change the settings and it crashes a lot. Front and back camera stills and video all working.
The rom feels pretty buggy and a bit sluggish to me. CPU operations seem to take an unusually long time. Maybe all the cores are not being utilized optimally. (Don't know. I haven't actually tested.)
I'm sure this rom will continue to get better and better in the coming days. I'm anxious to dirty flash the coming updates.
Excellent work by @thestrechh.
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Yep. I've been using the Pixel Experience 9.0 from @thestrechh as my daily driver for a couple days now.
It's usable if you can get by without VoLTE and Bluetooth.
Gcam works, but can't change the settings and it crashes a lot. Front and back camera stills and video all working.
The rom feels pretty buggy and a bit sluggish to me. CPU operations seem to take an unusually long time. Maybe all the cores are not being utilized optimally. (Don't know. I haven't actually tested.)
I'm sure this rom will continue to get better and better in the coming days. I'm anxious to dirty flash the coming updates.
Excellent work by @thestrechh.
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I've not noticed sluggish performance here, but I have noticed bugs here and there, which is par for the course, considering the infantile state of Android Pie development.
Still though, for an early release, it works almost excellently
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I've not noticed sluggish performance here, but I have noticed bugs here and there, which is par for the course, considering the infantile state of Android Pie development.
Still though, for an early release, it works almost excellently
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I decided to do a benchmark with antutu. The score seems fine. Guess I must be mistaken.
kazekiri said:
I decided to do a benchmark with antutu. The score seems fine. Guess I must be mistaken.
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It happens. Either way though, the coming weeks will be interesting in terms of Android Pie ROM development
The bug of battery drain in standby (mobile network) apear in Android PIE like Oreo?
Can you share battery stats?
Thanks
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I've not noticed slugogish performance here, but I have noticed bugs here and there, which is par for the course, considering the infantile state of Android Pie development.
Still though, for an early release, it works almost excellently
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did you have the Pixel Setup crashing after flashing this rom? if you do, what's the solution?
Hey and first of all: I am not a coder or do know anything about android development.
Treble arrived with Android 8 and it was praised like it would be the holy solution. Essential said it got P running on Ph-1 within a day (weekend...?). When I read all the P GSI threads it seems like nothing has really matured. People still report ****loads of bugs and not working hardware.
Wasn't this the whole achievement with treble? To separate the hardware drivers from the software?
Could someone please explain to me in simple words why it seems (to me) that not much has changed?
thanks!
Wrong section
I guess it's because of few ****ty manufacturers closed sources for specific hardware and not including them in Treble vendor.
Treble only promised compatibility where Vendors comply with VTS. If they make closed source drivers with special cameras or special sensors, bugs are bound to happen.
However if you see the other side, a **** load of ROMs were able to boot without needing any dev assistance like in my case, Xiaomi mi6 was able to boot Android P GSI and other treble compatible GSIs by users WITHOUT any help from devs. This is HUGE.
The minor niggles regarding cameras or sensors or other things is NOT a huge deal. A relatively weak developer can even take up from there and try to fix up things.
Lastly, give treble some time. This was the first time it was tested and it worked. Not completely, but i would say better than expected. In time it will help us get Android 9.1 9.2 etc with minimum fuss.
You would understand if you tried porting roms or building them from source. It NOT easy.
So I really don't know what's going on and what's happening behind the stage.
Obviously alonsoj636 decided to discontinue and abandon his greatly admired LineageOS builds from the past months.
I haven't found any notes or statements as to why he finally has decided to do so and I was not able to reach him on xda because he blocked PMs. If you read this, maybe you want to be so kind and give us some hints what's happened!
Anyway...
we, as the RM10 LineageOS community, have to face reality and that means: currently there is no LineageOS rom build and maintained by anybody. That either means sticking with old versions, changing ROMs/GSI or switching the phone completely.
While alonsoj636's versions are still working very well, they eventually become outdated sometime.
This thread should be used to coordinate discussions about future LineageOS development (if there is enough interest and people).
You have 3 options.
Wait for another builder to pick it up
Build it yourself
Run Lineage GSI from AndyYan (guide here)
One more thing. Building a ROM for a device is never considered a development. What you're referring to, is maintenance. Lineage's development will never stop.
Alright, so the cat is out of the bag on this one:
While I'm really happy that Alonso kept maintaining the ROM for a while, the reality is that he wasn't interested to go official anytime soon and kept being vague about it.
As for me, I'm building up the courage to do MPK99 recommendation and go with GSI. Apparently GSI works like old ROMs, and it doesn't nuke TWRP, so that seems nice.
Try GSI. It's perfect.
MPK99 said:
You have 3 options.
Wait for another builder to pick it up
Build it yourself
Run Lineage GSI from AndyYan (guide here)
One more thing. Building a ROM for a device is never considered a development. What you're referring to, is maintenance. Lineage's development will never stop.
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I'm pretty aware of that, however all new ROMs are tagged as development on this xda forum so I used this wording.
I think all 3 mentioned options are valid.
I could build it myself, however the time is the problem. Finding someone else building lineage in the future seems to be difficult. The past showed there aren't as many people interested and even less have the time and skill to build it.
GSI sounds like a wonder bag to me. while it's great to always have the latest updates, it might lack of the features LineageOS had for years. (i think of things like os-level online permission per app (wifi/cell), permission center, etc.). you can workaround that with 3rd party tools maybe, but it's cumbersome again.
Also GSi still sounds like a bit of an unpolished OS for this specific phone, with some kind of bugs and lack of features (compared to LOS). it's everybodys own decision to put priority on either that or on latest updates, though.
I might as well give it a try sometime, but I'll need enough spare time for experiments, so it won't happen soon.
my hopes are low, but maybe someone will step up and also build new LOS roms in the future.
Zirila said:
however all new ROMs are tagged as development on this xda forum
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They're all namesake
Zirila said:
it might lack of the features LineageOS had for years
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Lineage is lineage whether it's a gsi or a cusrom
Zirila said:
still sounds like a bit of an unpolished OS
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Those are false claims. You need to use it before committing on it.
Zirila said:
I'll need enough spare time for experiments, so it won't happen soon
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There's nothing to experiment, as user's experiments are logged on my thread. You can follow them. I'm myself a gsi user for an year long btw. As for the time, it'll take not more than 10 minutes. And I've laid out post configuration & fixes on the thread which'll be another 5 minutes.
well what I meaned with unpolished is what I've red in your thread about bugs like -don't touch screen while booting- etc. I haven't installed it so I solely say that by reading these posts.
and experimenting is synonymous with taking time to clean flash and reinstall everything again while learning and fixing problems with new OS/roms/GSIs.
I'll have a look sometime and I'm grateful there is progress.
Atleast I was transparent about the bugs on it.
Zirila said:
bugs like -don't touch screen while booting
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Not touching the screen 'while booting' is an easy fix & you won't often reboot your device while work in the first place.
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learning and fixing problems with new OS/roms/GSIs
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Just the procedure would be new. Rest of it would be your same old preferred AOSP derivative (lineage).
you did well. nothing to complain.
the more I dip into the topic the more I think it might be worth a try. don't count the time till I can focus on it, it'll take a while. but it sounds more and more promissing and the overall experience might as well get even better with time.
regardless of the GSI option, let's still have this thread and discussion opened for the case of some future LineageOS-CustomROM progress.
I'm very sorry for my abrupt decision to kill Lineage.
some personal and family problems made me think that I couldn't continue with this (nothing too big, don't worry... typical family fights)
after some messages I decided to get back to the action.
I will upload a new build with improvements once I unlock my bootloader (not very soon) as my RN10 is my only source of internet and I can't use the Mi Unlock Tool.
Thread will remain locked until the new build is done.
Thank you for your understanding and sorry for my bad steps ....
Regards
Thanks for the informational update
no worry, we are all human. as software engineer and project maintainer in troubled times it's often better to just keep calm, step back for a while, let the projects delay or freeze, that won't really hurt anyone. and then check back later to make a judgement if the project(s) really have to end.
It wasn't that bad for us either, in the meanwhile some of us learned a bit more of the GSI option which might also be a viable way to run LOS in the future. But everything has up- and downsides.
I'm glad we get to see a few more updates for the LOS custom rom.
lineage is alive again
new update is up ... waiting for shadowstep to open the thread again
Changelog
* Switch to SkiaGL Threaded
* Optimize package manager dexopt properties
* Kernel upstreamed to v4.14.295
* Kernel built with Clang 15.0.2
* Enable config_avoidGfxAccel
* wifi: Disable TDLS offchannel
* Disable few debug services
* Don't enable iostats
these are only for LineageOS 19.1
No changes for 18.1
Lineage OS for Mojito - Browse /Lineage at SourceForge.net
LineageOS for Redmi Note 10 (mojito/sunny)
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