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My phone is no longer draining massive amount of batt life when idle (3-5% after 7 hours of idle), android system usage is now down to 5-15% instead of 78-97% from before.
My fixes.
1. Turn off data syncing
2. Turn off wifi while on the road (so wifi doesn't constantly look for signals).
3. Clear memory
Yes, att installs a lot of bloatware that constantly update for changes.
If killing those services AND disabling data syncing doesn't help your problem, then you have a kernel problem (like myself).
If this is the case, do the following:
1. Take phone back to att and get a replacement
OR
2. Re-flash your android with the STOCK kernel found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
OR
3. Reflash with cognition x2 (reported to solve a member's problem, I didn't try this myself).
NOTE** This will root your phone, you will NOT get the exclamation mark during boot up, but kernel counter may be at "1" after this process.
Re-flashing my phone AND applying the three tricks I mentioned above worked for me..finally my phone is no longer crippled with crappy battery life and recharging is A LOT faster now.
I must be going crazy but this sg2 is killing me. I got it from Att yesterday and the battery life has been pretty HORRIBLE. (First time android user btw).
The phone will eat up 10% of my batter life after only 90 mins of idle. I checked the battery usage and Android OS is at around 78%!!! How do I fix this problem? I downloaded OS monitor and didn't really see anything that uses a lot of CPU, except for certain files syncing from time to time (but 2-3% usage usually).
Checked with battery spy and apparently the majority of the time, the phone was hovering around 200mhz 70% of the time and not deep sleep.
It's sad to have only 1.5 hours of display time with a battery of 45% left (7 hours total time)...coming from an Iphone 3gs, this is just unacceptable. I almost flashed to the 2.3.5 firmware but noticed it's NOT compatible with ATT's version of SG2.
I see people who have a total time of 2 days AND a screen time with 3 hours with 30% battery left. I wish I can get half that!
Running on 2.3.4, can't be the infamous drainage bug right? Thought that only happens with the 2.3.3s
Wifi on, application sync on, GPS off, brightness at 25%, using live wallpaper (the windmill). No active apps on. Downloaded aim, epocrates, battery monitor, cpu spy, and os monitor..rest of the apps are stock.
Update
According to my CPU spy
For the past hour that the phone was in idle
2:20mins at 1200mhz
4:52mins at 1000mhz
8:33 at 800mhz
1:28 at 500mhz
10:11 at 200mhz
33:36 in deep sleep
Currently Android CPU usage is @ 97%, display time of 7mins(2%)
2h 30mins since last charge (97% charge)..current power is 79%. Did nothing but idling and checking battery life.
So...that's 30 mins out of the hour in which my idling cellphone was hacking the pentagon....
Also the cellphone is a tiny bit warm to the touch (not cold)
I have 35% battery life remaining and have been unplugged for nearly 11 hours. This is significantly better than what I was getting with a Thunderbolt on Verizon, where I was needing to charge after about six hours of use. 11 hours and 35% remaining isn't the best in the world, but it's only been two days. The phone needs a few days to charge and discharge to determine true battery stats and will probably get better.
Being that this is your first Android battery life will not seem great but let it settle in for a few days it should get better.
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Used Nexus S, LG Thrill, Samsung Focus, Infuse, This is the best Android phone for battery. I have 40% left with normal use (emails, calls, music, read news) at the end of the day. Huraaaaa
Singuy1234 said:
I must be going crazy but this sg2 is killing me. I got it from Att yesterday and the battery life has been pretty HORRIBLE. (First time android user btw).
The phone will eat up 10% of my batter life after only 90 mins of idle. I checked the battery usage and Android OS is at around 78%!!! How do I fix this problem? I downloaded OS monitor and didn't really see anything that uses a lot of CPU, except for certain files syncing from time to time (but 2-3% usage usually).
Checked with battery spy and apparently the majority of the time, the phone was hovering around 200mhz 70% of the time and not deep sleep.
It's sad to have only 1.5 hours of display time with a battery of 45% left (7 hours total time)...coming from an Iphone 3gs, this is just unacceptable. I almost flashed to the 2.3.5 firmware but noticed it's NOT compatible with ATT's version of SG2.
I see people who have a total time of 2 days AND a screen time with 3 hours with 30% battery left. I wish I can get half that!
Running on 2.3.4, can't be the infamous drainage bug right? Thought that only happens with the 2.3.3s
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If you only got the phone yesterday, its way to early to make any judgments on battery life. Battery needs at least 3-5 days to settle in and build consistent battery stats.
Also, what are you settings? Auto Brightness, Bluetooth, GPS, auto syn(exchange emal, gmail, facebook, etc). If your not using these, they should be OFF. It's easy to manually refresh email, etc.
I've seen some people reporting very high Android OS(over 50%) but still getting solid battery life.
I'm at 1hr display time, heavy texting. 72% left, been unplugged for 12hrs
no people what this guy is talking about is the android os bug. i have it too. hopefully an upgrade or different rom will fix it. my phone has been unplugged 11 hours with only 1 1/2 hour display but android os has ran for 52 minutes and now im at 32% battery life. once this bug gets worked out the battery life will be amazing.
I don't think that there is an android OS bug. My android OS shows as being 42% with 13hrs of moderate use and I am still at 67% battery remaining. This is by far the best battery use I have ever experienced on an android device! My cappy would not even come close to this performance and this is on stock ROM and kernel.
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I'm very happy with mine, this was the first total drain on a new battery so I know it will only get better.
Total time: 18hr 25min
Display time: 4hr 48min
I think it's the system os, not the hardware. There were a few times when the battery didn't discharge itself at 7%/hour (had it idle for 3 hours and it went down like 2%).
And yes, everything is turned off except the sync app data and wifi. There's no option to turn off 4g btw. It's just weird how sometimes it's in this mode of power drainage, and then sometimes it doesn't drain much..but most of the time, it's draining.
I seriously doubt the phone can only run 2.5 hours worth of heavy usage or 12 hours of standby (it should last days!). If this is "normal" for android, then maybe I should have a visit back to att and exchange for an iphone (and I really don't to!)
Sledutah said:
I'm very happy with mine, this was the first total drain on a new battery so I know it will only get better.
Total time: 18hr 25min
Display time: 4hr 48min
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that is freakin incredible. i am gonna try a restore or something im down to 28% life. 1:40 display android os 1 hour.
can you please post the cpu total time in android os so i have an idea
VFO said:
I don't think that there is an android OS bug. My android OS shows as being 42% with 13hrs of moderate use and I am still at 67% battery remaining. This is by far the best battery use I have ever experienced on an android device! My cappy would not even come close to this performance and this is on stock ROM and kernel.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
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can you please post the cpu total time in android os so i have an idea
VFO said:
I don't think that there is an android OS bug. My android OS shows as being 42% with 13hrs of moderate use and I am still at 67% battery remaining. This is by far the best battery use I have ever experienced on an android device! My cappy would not even come close to this performance and this is on stock ROM and kernel.
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I agree - as I said in the Android OS drain thread, even in "good" situations, Android OS displays way high on our systems. I think it's a reporting bug.
I dropped 2% in 5.5 hours completely idle (sitting on my shelf) last night - Android OS was at over 60%. It seems that so far for me, the higher it is, the better my battery life is.
I drop around 15-20% in 9 hours of being mostly idle at my desk at work - it's a weak-signal location so the radio eats much more battery.
One thing is that unlike first-generation GalaxyS devices and interim ones like the Infuse, the GS2 has a coulomb-counter type of battery gauge. This type of gauge sometimes needs to be calibrated with multiple charge/discharge cycles or it will misreport battery state of charge. (However, when calibrated, it's much more accurate.)
Edit: I do have some power management tweaks in the kernel I'm running, but they don't make that much off a difference except in some high-drain corner cases in my experience. I'll be releasing it sometime later this week depending on how well these antibiotics do their job.
Do i need to install a battery app to see the percentage? or we have a way?
Install this app:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15869868#post15869868
If you see "DataTracker-FD" or "Fast Dormancy" as the top wake lock, go into dialer
dial *#*#9900#*#*
disable Fast Dormancy (FD).
By default, the Samsung Galaxy S II has Fast Dormancy support enabled. One of the goals of Fast Dormancy is to increase the battery life of a device, by limiting the amount of signaling between the phone and the cell network. But, when Fast Dormancy it is not enabled in the network and is enabled on the phone it ironically works the other way around, and actually drains more battery than before.
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That applies to the I9100.
As far as I can tell, the I777 has FD disabled by default. (This may change once I9100 ROM ports start showing up)
Okay, charged my battery to 97%(I got a beep saying it's fully charged). Idled for the past 2 hours and 22 mins. Battery is at 86%.
According to the battery, my screen account for 2%, and the android system accounts for 97%.
This is a stock phone guys, I have no apps installed!
Entropy512 said:
One thing is that unlike first-generation GalaxyS devices and interim ones like the Infuse, the GS2 has a coulomb-counter type of battery gauge. This type of gauge sometimes needs to be calibrated with multiple charge/discharge cycles or it will misreport battery state of charge. (However, when calibrated, it's much more accurate.)
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How do you calibrate it?
sweetboy02125 said:
Do i need to install a battery app to see the percentage? or we have a way?
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Settings > About phone > Battery usage
WillEat4F00d said:
How do you calibrate it?
Settings > About phone > Battery usage
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I'm talking about live battery display. I installed no lock and have no lock screen to see how many % left.
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I'm talking about live battery display. I installed no lock and have no lock screen to see how many % left.
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Just search up "battery indicator" in the Market and you'll get a few to choose from.
I too got mine yesterday and started tinkering around with installing apps and such to test out all functions before I rooted it and move onto cm7 most likely. The 1 things I noticed was that the battery was NOT completely full when it was first turned on at the store so once it got a little lower after playing with it I charged it up overnight. Today the battery was WAY BETTER and was not dead yet. I have been using it NON STOP today, rebooting it, testing it, trying to root it, rebooting some more, some time using tango to test it out, watched a Netflix movie, pretty much taking full advantage of it all day. I finally decided to charge it up and use my Captivate a bit. I didn't keep track of usage and times today but I KNOW it lasted a WAY LONGER time with all I was doing with it than my Cappy. Tomorrow I will check more out possibly before putting on a rom.
So LOOOONNNNGGGG STORY short make sure you charge it up once you get it before messing with it too much and then it will LAST LONGER.
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After two nights of completely draining then recharging the battery to full, the battery has gotten significantly better. I'm trying to drain it again before I go to bed tonight but I don't think I'll make it.
I played the entirety of Toy Story 3 on max brightness, and only burned 20% of the battery!
I got an LG G5 2 weeks ago and the battery has been outrageously bad. I bought it used and the owned has owned it for 2 to 3 months. There is very little standby drain and the phone is cold to the touch within minutes. Overnight drain is around 10 to 12 percent with always on display which is normal considering the 1 percent per hour loss plus the normal overnight drain. However when I turn the screen on the screen on time is very poor only about 2.5 hrs to 3 hours. The screen brightness is set 20 to 40 percent no auto brightness. There appears to be nothing draining the battery with the screen being the biggest battery draining. I have location nfc Bluetooth and LTE turned off. Along with touch sounds and touch vibration but toggling these settings makes no difference. Its impossible to find out more because I have no root. If this battery continues to be this poor I'm going to be selling it because I cannot stand having to charge twice a day even with quickcharge 3.0 old xiaomi redmi note 3 lasted 2 to 3 times longer on the battery. Any ideas what could be eating my battery?
Hi
I get 4 to 5 hours screen on time and I use my brightness at 75% to 100%, never as low as 20-40% it's too dark.
What apps do you use when you do have the screen on? Maps and games will drop you to 2-3 hours screen on time like all phones, but normal apps (excluding snapchat) will give you 4-5 SOT.
I would turn off always on display, you won't miss it.
Eeeeh , your Android system and android Os are high , screen should consumpt most of the battery about 30-40% mine does 34% with 35% brightness and Phone idle 22% my android system at 9% android Os 6% , if you dont game you get nearly 1 day life from your battery but if you do you need 2-3 timers charging per day , also if you use Data it just sucks the battery like vacum. So there is a drain in your system but its true lg g5 consumps a lot in order to give you performance in priority and not power saving. Dont forget G5s are the only high range phone that you can swip your battery with no deal , they are giving you that feature , Use it!!! You can grab up to 3600mah (2800 stock) extended capacity battery with a wall charger from ebay really cheap and never again have a battery problem. Also this batterys are lithium ones , i saw in your pic 10% i suggest not to go below 20% you are killing really fast lithium batterys if you decharge them!!!
Jonathan-H said:
Hi
I get 4 to 5 hours screen on time and I use my brightness at 75% to 100%, never as low as 20-40% it's too dark.
What apps do you use when you do have the screen on? Maps and games will drop you to 2-3 hours screen on time like all phones, but normal apps (excluding snapchat) will give you 4-5 SOT.
I would turn off always on display, you won't miss it.
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Always on display barely drains any battery. I use apps such as facebook, text messaging, messenger, instagram, chrome, etc. I rarely play games because the second I open a game the battery life is only about 1.5 hours sot.
Well Facebook and messenger should be a couple of alarm bells when talking about battery life surely? Also, you bought it second hand, you have no idea how the previous owner treated the battery in the time they had it no matter how short a period it was.
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justinxfan said:
I got an LG G5 2 weeks ago and the battery has been outrageously bad. I bought it used and the owned has owned it for 2 to 3 months. There is very little standby drain and the phone is cold to the touch within minutes. Overnight drain is around 10 to 12 percent with always on display which is normal considering the 1 percent per hour loss plus the normal overnight drain. However when I turn the screen on the screen on time is very poor only about 2.5 hrs to 3 hours. The screen brightness is set 20 to 40 percent no auto brightness. There appears to be nothing draining the battery with the screen being the biggest battery draining. I have location nfc Bluetooth and LTE turned off. Along with touch sounds and touch vibration but toggling these settings makes no difference. Its impossible to find out more because I have no root. If this battery continues to be this poor I'm going to be selling it because I cannot stand having to charge twice a day even with quickcharge 3.0 old xiaomi redmi note 3 lasted 2 to 3 times longer on the battery. Any ideas what could be eating my battery?
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Hello friends
I have a problem with battery and also unable to turn on the WiFi after update.
I just bought my brand new G5 H860 TWN and updated it, which cause the whole device to malfunction.
please correct me if I'm mistaken. An update is meant to improve the functionality of a device not to destroy it.
Apart from this problem the interesting thing is that non of the LG customer cares know whats causing the problem,
A word of advice to LG. Please Do not make something that you don't know **** about.
yours sincerely
have nice day.
3mehdi said:
Hello friends
I have a problem with battery and also unable to turn on the WiFi after update.
I just bought my brand new G5 H860 TWN and updated it, which cause the whole device to malfunction.
please correct me if I'm mistaken. An update is meant to improve the functionality of a device not to destroy it.
Apart from this problem the interesting thing is that non of the LG customer cares know whats causing the problem,
A word of advice to LG. Please Do not make something that you don't know **** about.
yours sincerely
have nice day.
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Do a factory reset. Then feedback.
bluerain28 said:
Do a factory reset. Then feedback.
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Thanks for your advise my friend, factory resetting the device was the first thing i did, but i did not solve the issue.
i have tried the following:
-Flash other ROMs from different countries for H860
-booted the device into safe mode and tried to enable the WiFi and etc.
my WiFi MAC is set to 02:00:00:00:00:00 and it means that WiFi has not been detected by android. Also the Bluetooth address is defined as "unavailable".
and the worst of all is its battery drain issue which kill my battery within 5 hours in standby mode, while i can not notice any abnormal battery consumption in "BATTERY USE DETAILS" section in Battery usage setting. this probably means that some other consumer(perhaps the WiFi) uses the battery without being listed.
3mehdi said:
Thanks for your advise my friend, factory resetting the device was the first thing i did, but i did not solve the issue.
i have tried the following:
-Flash other ROMs from different countries for H860
-booted the device into safe mode and tried to enable the WiFi and etc.
my WiFi MAC is set to 02:00:00:00:00:00 and it means that WiFi has not been detected by android. Also the Bluetooth address is defined as "unavailable".
and the worst of all is its battery drain issue which kill my battery within 5 hours in standby mode, while i can not notice any abnormal battery consumption in "BATTERY USE DETAILS" section in Battery usage setting. this probably means that some other consumer(perhaps the WiFi) uses the battery without being listed.
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H860? H860 haven't got root nor custom ROM yet. Bootloader of H860's still locked.
I've got a brand new LG G5 which I have been using since Thursday and I honestly can say it sucks big time compared to my 2 year old Z3 which can easily get me 4 hrs SoD on mixed usage. Using the exact same set up of apps, location and wifi/mobile use, I am struggling to see more than 2.5hrs SoD with the G5. Honestly, it just drains battery like no tomorrow and this is fresh battery... I dread to think what it will be like in 2 years. Sony made a lot of mistakes but the Z3 really excelled...
Hello all ,
I was about to buy an Exynos model and read somewhere on here that there was an update to fix battery life. Is this true and how much has it improved ?
Thanks
Personally I see much better battery life after the April security update. SOT gets about 6 hours of normal use.
i still haven't received the latest update, but my battery life is great
i get 8hrs of SOT
ARD 4 is latest firmware ?
From wich country ?
Tnx.
madvinegar said:
Personally I see much better battery life after the April security update. SOT gets about 6 hours of normal use.
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Trimis de pe al meu ASUS_P00I folosind Tapatalk
Never had a problem with battery life
narcis1974 said:
ARD 4 is latest firmware ?
From wich country ?
Tnx.
Trimis de pe al meu ASUS_P00I folosind Tapatalk
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Latest security patch, i.e. 1st April 2018
Reading Anandtech article, exynos does not seem to be a good choice unfortunately. I have read all about it after my devices was shipped today, might return it.
I will tell u the truth, i have snapdragon and 5 hrs of SOT , since 1 month so the battery life is almost same
5-6h SOT with 2 days of usage between each charge. But depends heaviliy on your usage.
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5-6h SOT with 2 days of usage between each charge. But depends heaviliy on your usage.
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Thanks, this is not bad at all for an exynos. This is really odd as some users claim they get much less like 3 hours SOT and 16 hours standby. Are you on BER5 btw.? Thanks
samitro said:
Thanks, this is not bad at all for an exynos. This is really odd as some users claim they get much less like 3 hours SOT and 16 hours standby. Are you on BER5 btw.? Thanks
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Yes, i am. I also changed some settings of the device and disabled a lot of apps to save some power, but im not using a power saving mode. Standby drain is still a bit high though with 3-4% in 7h.
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Yes, i am. I also changed some settings of the device and disabled a lot of apps to save some power, but im not using a power saving mode. Standby drain is still a bit high though with 3-4% in 7h.
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thx, 0.5% per hour on android is not that high I guess, good to know.
samitro said:
thx, 0.5% per hour on android is not that high I guess, good to know.
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I'd like to know if you guys are using Facebook and Messenger apps. Tried it on a brand new unit without logging it in and the standby drain is less than 0.5% an hour. Installed those two because I actually need the Messenger (can't seem to greenify Facebook) and my standby drain is like 2% per hour.
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I'd like to know if you guys are using Facebook and Messenger apps. Tried it on a brand new unit without logging it in and the standby drain is less than 0.5% an hour. Installed those two because I actually need the Messenger (can't seem to greenify Facebook) and my standby drain is like 2% per hour.
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Nope, i do not use Facebook at all, only Whatsapp and Telegram. Facebook is known to be a battery killer. But i think there are official lite apps which significally reduce the power drain.
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Nope, i do not use Facebook at all, only Whatsapp and Telegram. Facebook is known to be a battery killer. But i think there are official lite apps which significally reduce the power drain.
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figured as much. I just envy how you can use those two because your contacts aren't dependent on Messenger.
samitro said:
Reading Anandtech article, exynos does not seem to be a good choice unfortunately. I have read all about it after my devices was shipped today, might return it.
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Recharging the G965F(exynos dual sim) every evening at 7,8 PM after unplugging in the morning at 6,7 AM.
AOD , gallery syncing, nearby device scanning, cloud based services, find my mobile service, NFC off. Wifi power saving on, 5 Sammy blaotwares disabled , no game playing , most appkications are in sleeping mode, no battery hogging app and I'm just a light to moderate user with 90 % wifi connection.
4 to 5 hours sot and 13,14 or maximum 15 hours it lasts. Experienced other top of the line phones with better battery life.
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figured as much. I just envy how you can use those two because your contacts aren't dependent on Messenger.
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With Messenger you mean the Facebook Messenger? Well no facebook, no friends at facebook to chat with .
I just dont like this company at all. The idea behind it is really cool, keeping people connected. But what they do with your data isnt. Not a tiny bit.
And if the trend goes on, WhatsApp will also be uninstalled someday. But this would be hard, since nearly no one uses an alternative messenger.
Whatsapp does the job for me and its much easier on the battery.
But back to the topic: Have you tried this Lite app?
Should be less stressfull for your battery.
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Recharging the G965F(exynos dual sim) every evening at 7,8 PM after unplugging in the morning at 6,7 AM.
AOD , gallery syncing, nearby device scanning, cloud based services, find my mobile service, NFC off. Wifi power saving on, 5 Sammy blaotwares disabled , no game playing , most appkications are in sleeping mode, no battery hogging app and I'm just a light to moderate user with 90 % wifi connection.
4 to 5 hours sot and 13,14 or maximum 15 hours it lasts. Experienced other top of the line phones with better battery life.
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Sounds a lot like my usage, also the settings you have done. Did you also disable 4G active while on Wifi? Its hidden in the developer settings.
Otherwise im currently ~32,5h off the charger with 42% left. My screen usage is at 2h 22min, so maybe 4,5h overall in this run. But its not too bad cause of the overall runtime, as standby also drains the battery.
If im pushing the battery more without trying to achieve 2 days i have no problem getting to 6h of SOT.
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Recharging the G965F(exynos dual sim) every evening at 7,8 PM after unplugging in the morning at 6,7 AM.
AOD , gallery syncing, nearby device scanning, cloud based services, find my mobile service, NFC off. Wifi power saving on, 5 Sammy blaotwares disabled , no game playing , most appkications are in sleeping mode, no battery hogging app and I'm just a light to moderate user with 90 % wifi connection.
4 to 5 hours sot and 13,14 or maximum 15 hours it lasts. Experienced other top of the line phones with better battery life.
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That sounds very similar to another poster here who is also having issues with dual sim battery drain. He also made the same comment about having better battery life with other "top of the line" phones. Interestingly, I thought you posted a screenshot of 8+ hours SOT with the exynos recently (and 15+ hours SOT with the snapdragon). So I suppose those figures weren't a good reflection of your "average" SOT? As now you're mentioning only half that SOT, despite quite a few tweaks too.
Question - it sounds like you have around 9-10 hours where you're not actively using the phone during a typical discharge cycle. Do you have a sense of what your hourly standby drain is (I asked the same question of the other person having issues and I think he mentioned about 1% or less drain per hour)? A good way of observing it is leaving the phone uncharged overnight. I'm just curious as to whether your relatively poor battery life is mainly due to excessive standby drain or excessive drain despite only doing light-moderate tasks. I ask this because, in my experience (and also with people like Galaxo60) and demonstrated in numerous battery drain video tests, heavy use (eg. GPS navigation with high accuracy) tends to drain the battery by around 10-15% per hour and very heavy use (complex games, video calling) tends to drain the battery by 15-20% per hour.
Assuming a standby drain of 1% per hour (which is on the high side with AOD disabled and a good wifi connection), you can see that even if you played a complex game for 2 hours (40%), then an hour later (1%) you did a video call for an hour (20%), then an hour later (1%) you spent 2 hours navigating Maps with GPS on high accuracy (30%), and then you went to sleep for 6 hours (6%), your battery would be down to about 2% over a total of 13 hours on battery with 5 hours SOT. I'm probably giving the high side of the estimated battery drain in each task too. And this should be without any significant tweaking (based on my experience, and unless those video tests forget to mention tweaking etc). It sounds like you don't do any of these heavy or very heavy tasks, and therefore your SOT should be more like 6-7 hours over 20 hours or so (just a rough guess to make the point).
So assuming your hourly standby drain is also around 1%, then the only thing I can think of is an app that you're using or a task that you're doing (or some specific combination of apps/tasks that exynos doesn't like?) that is draining the battery more than it should. Or throwing in a wild speculation, somehow there's a built-in kernel backdoor that activates while your screen is on and is secretly doing something that drains your battery more hehe (and of course doesn't show up in any battery stats).
I know the occasional poster has also mentioned having only 1-3 hours SOT, so you're not having the worst reported SOT I suppose. It would be interesting to know what the hourly standby drain for those people etc is too.
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ssj100 said:
That sounds very similar to another poster here who is also having issues with dual sim battery drain. He also made the same comment about having better battery life with other "top of the line" phones. Interestingly, I thought you posted a screenshot of 8+ hours SOT with the exynos recently (and 15+ hours SOT with the snapdragon). So I suppose those figures weren't a good reflection of your "average" SOT? As now you're mentioning only half that SOT, despite quite a few tweaks too.
Question - it sounds like you have around 9-10 hours where you're not actively using the phone during a typical discharge cycle. Do you have a sense of what your hourly standby drain is (I asked the same question of the other person having issues and I think he mentioned about 1% or less drain per hour)? A good way of observing it is leaving the phone uncharged overnight. I'm just curious as to whether your relatively poor battery life is mainly due to excessive standby drain or excessive drain despite only doing light-moderate tasks. I ask this because, in my experience (and also with people like Galaxo60) and demonstrated in numerous battery drain video tests, heavy use (eg. GPS navigation with high accuracy) tends to drain the battery by around 10-15% per hour and very heavy use (complex games, video calling) tends to drain the battery by 15-20% per hour.
Assuming a standby drain of 1% per hour (which is on the high side with AOD disabled and a good wifi connection), you can see that even if you played a complex game for 2 hours (40%), then an hour later (1%) you did a video call for an hour (20%), then an hour later (1%) you spent 2 hours navigating Maps with GPS on high accuracy (30%), and then you went to sleep for 6 hours (6%), your battery would be down to about 2% over a total of 13 hours on battery with 5 hours SOT. I'm probably giving the high side of the estimated battery drain in each task too. And this should be without any significant tweaking (based on my experience, and unless those video tests forget to mention tweaking etc). It sounds like you don't do any of these heavy or very heavy tasks, and therefore your SOT should be more like 6-7 hours over 20 hours or so (just a rough guess to make the point).
So assuming your hourly standby drain is also around 1%, then the only thing I can think of is an app that you're using or a task that you're doing (or some specific combination of apps/tasks that exynos doesn't like?) that is draining the battery more than it should. Or throwing in a wild speculation, somehow there's a built-in kernel backdoor that activates while your screen is on and is secretly doing something that drains your battery more hehe (and of course doesn't show up in any battery stats).
I know the occasional poster has also mentioned having only 1-3 hours SOT, so you're not having the worst reported SOT I suppose. It would be interesting to know what the hourly standby drain for those people etc is too.
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Where have you seen me posting 8+ hours with the exynos? It was of 6 hours and 50 minutes in the "screen on time" thread achieved when additional battery saving steps like bk package disabler disabling huge chunk of services and apps and keeping location in power saving mode. (bk no more working as it's removed from playstore and I went for factory reset after BRE5 update)
4 to 5 is the average sot with 13, 14 hours with few battery saving steps. No wakelocks no battery hogging applications.
Hey folks, see if this is the right forum to post this.
Like some other people on here and on reddit the latest Android 11 update C.57 caused a lot more battery drain on my device.
Before on A.46 my over night drain was about 2% which is good I think with Wifi on.
With Coloros 11 it can be over 10% drain over the course of 6-8 hours which is far more.
I have tried gather info from my phone which app is draining but it looks rather normal.
Even tried the adb command to force the phone get the phone to do the battery optimazation manually without luck, seems I have dont have the permission to make suchs commands through ADB with USB-debugging mode enabled..
However this morning I found in Settings>Battery>More Battery Settings>Optimize Battery Use
The whole list on every app there was set to "Always ask" and not "Optimize Automatically"
Now I changed every app to Optimize Automatically and will see how this affects the current drain.
I read somewhere that to the phone to get to this "state of battery optimazation" you need to have the phone in the right state to execute that which was Battery Full on Charger in idle mode not moving for a few hours.
So I thought if the battery optimazation settings where set to "always ask" (which it never did) this state maybe never happens?
Anyways feel free to share your battery settings and what Battery standby drains you guys got because I have been going a little nuts over this issue haha.
I wouldn't bother changing the battery optimisation settings, they seem to reset themselves.
I wasn't getting great battery life so finally did a factory reset. After a week the battery settled down and is now ok, probably around 5.5 hours screen time a day at qhd 120hz with always on display in from 8am to 11pm. I don't really check battery drain overnight, I will check it and report back.
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I wouldn't bother changing the battery optimisation settings, they seem to reset themselves.
I wasn't getting great battery life so finally did a factory reset. After a week the battery settled down and is now ok, probably around 5.5 hours screen time a day at qhd 120hz with always on display in from 8am to 11pm. I don't really check battery drain overnight, I will check it and report back.
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Yes I checked them again now after you mentioned it and they do seem to reset. However now my phone seems to work how it should, currently 3 hour screen on and 64% battery left. Wifi at home all day. Also the standy drain is night and day better now. Maybe this was a bug in Android 11 that kept it from optimize the apps?
I have adaptive on both refresh and resolution and same Always on time settings as you.
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Yes I checked them again now after you mentioned it and they do seem to reset. However now my phone seems to work how it should, currently 3 hour screen on and 64% battery left. Wifi at home all day. Also the standy drain is night and day better now. Maybe this was a bug in Android 11 that kept it from optimize the apps?
I have adaptive on both refresh and resolution and same Always on time settings as you.
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Glad it's working better now. I do find the battery a bit inconsistent, some days it's great and others it goes down quickly. I've turned location off now as dont need it that much, I lost 3% overnight which seems good to me.
I really don't understand how you guys get such a low battery drain overnight.
On ColorOS 7 I had 10-12% drain overnight.
On ColorOS 11 it stayed the same. I have reset my phone, now it's about 7-8%.
This is with night optimization on in the settings. 5G disabled.
I always was able to get that 3% on my older OP 7 Pro. Even on my Realme X2 Pro, which had the same OS!
Also, my SOT is not that good. On mixed data/wifi I only usually get 3.5hrs SOT. After the reset its 4hrs now.
With 5G on it's unusable, even with good coverage here. (AccuBattery: 6hrs SOT, 57hrs standby, just very bad)
It's nice to have Dual SIM now with Singapore EX, but I cant use it, my battery just can't handle that.
I kept this phone just because the rest is awesome, but the battery is such a letdown.
I thought it was a SD865 problem, but I also had the Mi 10 and Poco F2 Pro as a secondary device without any drain problems.
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Glad it's working better now. I do find the battery a bit inconsistent, some days it's great and others it goes down quickly. I've turned location off now as dont need it that much, I lost 3% overnight which seems good to me.
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3% seems good.
However I had a big drain again over night so gonna try to set apps to optimize again.
It is indeed very inconsistent
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I really don't understand how you guys get such a low battery drain overnight.
On ColorOS 7 I had 10-12% drain overnight.
On ColorOS 11 it stayed the same. I have reset my phone, now it's about 7-8%.
This is with night optimization on in the settings. 5G disabled.
I always was able to get that 3% on my older OP 7 Pro. Even on my Realme X2 Pro, which had the same OS!
Also, my SOT is not that good. On mixed data/wifi I only usually get 3.5hrs SOT. After the reset its 4hrs now.
With 5G on it's unusable, even with good coverage here. (AccuBattery: 6hrs SOT, 57hrs standby, just very bad)
It's nice to have Dual SIM now with Singapore EX, but I cant use it, my battery just can't handle that.
I kept this phone just because the rest is awesome, but the battery is such a letdown.
I thought it was a SD865 problem, but I also had the Mi 10 and Poco F2 Pro as a secondary device without any drain problems.
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Yes I agree the battery drain is very weird with this OS.
Have you tried changing the settings in the battery optimize section? I turned on optimize automatically and then charged my phone full and let it sit for a while with charger plugged.
Try this and see if it gets better.
Its weird that the settings change after a while tho.
Just recently managed to use the phone and have to confirm ColorOS 11 is killing battery overnight, I have this for few weeks now so should be all optimised, yet still overnight is around 25-30% battery gone, my previous mate 20 pro was taking maybe 2-3% overnight so is massive hit. No notification is allowed, do not disturb on with wifi and mobile off, really weird is behave like something in the background was still on.
mine only about few percent but my battery life sucks at 4-5 hour ish
I have had the Pixel 6 for a week now and I'm very disappointed. My biggest disappointment is by far the battery life. I can barely get through an 8 hour work day before it dies (Note: this is with zero WiFi use). After 8hrs I'm typically at 10-20% battery or dead. The mobile network standby is slaughtering my battery life. It uses a consistent 25-35% of it everyday. I also seem to have a lot of weird bugs.
-I get occasional system UI crashes
-randomly I'll lose signal where I always have signal and have to turn it off and back on or reboot
-auto rotate I have to frequently shake my phone for it to work
-camera quality seems terrible. My photos are almost always blurry. My OnePlus 7 Pro takes much better pics.
Update: The 8hrs is total battery life not SOT. My SOT is like 3-4hrs average sometimes worse. My phone use also stays in a 6ft area all day. So I'm not like in and out of service. I also make no calls during the day.
Update 2: I've had 5G disabled all day and I've had 3.5hrs SOT and have 45% battery left and it's the end of my work day. I'm happy with that number. Still having weird OS issues like system UI crashes, Spotify pausing randomly and it not working with the Google assistant. So I think I still need to do a factory reset unfortunately.
I am returning it also tomorrow.
I already did factory reset without any result.
Mobile network standby is killing the battery.
30% day and 60% overnight.
I tried everything without success.
Fingerprint Scanner also is terrible.
Bump.
I had big hopes for this phone.
Try clearing system cache.
Try a network reset.
Try safe mode to rule out 3rd party apps.
Try turning off any power management.
Use factory reset for; you did a major firmware update, for malware, damage to hidden users settings by a 3rd party app.
Otherwise the issues are likely to reoccur.
Try to find the root cause(s). Cloud apps can use a lot of power day and night. Trash apps like WhatsApp, FB, etc waste power and abuse privacy.
Crazygrouzin said:
I am returning it also tomorrow.
I already did factory reset without any result.
Mobile network standby is killing the battery.
30% day and 60% overnight.
I tried everything without success.
Fingerprint Scanner also is terrible.
Bump.
I had big hopes for this phone.
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Damn, what carrier did you buy it from? I'm also disappointed in the performance of the finger print scanner. I was expecting that though and it works if you hold it. So that's not like a deal breaker but all the reviews I watched before purchasing were saying great things about the battery life. Google even advertises it as a 24hr battery life. Which I don't expect but I need to at least get to when I go to bed without charging.
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Damn, what carrier did you buy it from? I'm also disappointed in the performance of the finger print scanner. I was expecting that though and it works if you hold it. So that's not like a deal breaker but all the reviews I watched before purchasing were saying great things about the battery life. Google even advertises it as a 24hr battery life. Which I don't expect but I need to at least get to when I go to bed without charging.
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From Media Markt.
I am using o2 Deutschland.
Tried different carrier also.
Tried esim and physical card also.
Tried every combo on network preferences.
Mobile standby mode is not dropping below 25%.
Crazygrouzin said:
From Media Markt.
I am using o2 Deutschland.
Tried different carrier also.
Tried esim and physical card also.
Tried every combo on network preferences.
Mobile standby mode is not dropping below 25%.
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Have you installed the latest feature updates?
Do you use 5G and if not have you set your phone to use 4G instead?
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Have you installed the latest feature updates?
Do you use 5G and if not have you set your phone to use 4G instead?
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I installed the update.
I am using 4g.
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Have you installed the latest feature updates?
Do you use 5G and if not have you set your phone to use 4G instead?
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I'm using 5G and will try doing that next. I don't really need the 5G speeds but I like seeing the icon lol.
Just got another system UI crash
Disabling 5G seems to have actually made my battery life worse. My phone is at 12% after only 8hrs of use..... Usually it's at like 20% after 8hrs.
So on WiFi my battery is amazing. In the past 3hrs with high brightness and over and hour of video and the rest on apps it's only gone down 6% So if the network standby issue can be fixed my battery life would be great.
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So on WiFi my battery is amazing. In the past 3hrs with high brightness and over and hour of video and the rest on apps it's only gone down 6% So if the network standby issue can be fixed my battery life would be great.
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On safe boot.
Well this is not causing other app.
Hi guys! Having great battery life, Yesterday did 5.15hrs with still 33% normal usage wifi and 4g.
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Disabling 5G seems to have actually made my battery life worse. My phone is at 12% after only 8hrs of use..... Usually it's at like 20% after 8hrs.
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Is it a joke ? Have 8hr SOT and crying ?!
Don't read too much into the two-hour "battery usage" percentages. They don't have any relationship to how much total energy was used - they only show the relationship to other tasks running during that two hour period.
For example, we can assume that the "Mobile Network Standby" power usage is pretty consistent if you remain in the same physical location and make the same amount of cell phone calls/texts. However the bi-hourly use % will be wildly different depending on how the phone was being used. For example, you are showing 66% Mobile Network Standby when the phone is sitting idle and not being used. That is to be expected because the phone was literally not used at all so there are very few tasks using energy during that period of time. If you compare another time when the phone was being used, the Mobile Network Standby might only account for 22% of battery use during a 2 hour period. The actual energy used for Mobile Network Standby was the same in both cases, but the % changes depending on what other tasks were using energy. It doesn't mean that it used three times the energy when it shows 66% vs when it shows 22%.
You can see this same type of battery usage detail for the last 24 hours by clicking the drop down menu "System usage for past 24 hours" on the initial battery usage screen. This will show a more accurate accounting of how much actual power each app and system process used in the last 24 hours. Unfortunately it is only for 24 hours and not since the last full charge, so it can still be a skewed number because it still doesn't show how much battery power was used, but only what % of total battery use each item accounted for. In other words, you could charge and totally drain the phone 3 times in a day, and the percentages would still look relatively the same vs someone that didn't charge at all during the day.
I suspect you will see your Mobile Network Standby number run about 20-30% when you look at this number.
Plus, your first set of battery use images show the phone using about 55% during an 8 hour period. The second set of images show the phone using about 75% over a 12 hour period. Of course we don't really know what type of use you really had during those times, but that isn't terrible. That shows the phone should last about 16 hours based on your usage.
You are also showing about a 10% decrease in battery life when the phone is setting idle for 8 hours. Honestly this is about normal battery life and you shouldn't complain about it. These phone are going to use a little more than 1% total battery power per hour when they are sitting idle and on cellular (not wifi only). If you are seeing 2-3% battery use per hour while idle, then you should be more concerned.
I have 11h40 SOT with the Pixel 6 and it is more than enough for me.
I loose 8.2%/h with the screen on and 2.7% with the screen off
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Plus, your first set of battery use images show the phone using about 55% during an 8 hour period. The second set of images show the phone using about 75% over a 12 hour period. Of course we don't really know what type of use you really had during those times, but that isn't terrible. That shows the phone should last about 16 hours based on your usage.
You are also showing about a 10% decrease in battery life when the phone is setting idle for 8 hours. Honestly this is about normal battery life and you shouldn't complain about it. These phone are going to use a little more than 1% total battery power per hour when they are sitting idle and on cellular (not wifi only). If you are seeing 2-3% battery use per hour while idle, then you should be more concerned.
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This is from 93%.
I am taking in best case 4 hours sot.
All the other battery is drained by mobile standby.
I am loosing sometimes 4% with screen of and wifi turned on, when my old redmi note 10 pro loses 0%
I guess i get faulty phone.
But i am done with with pixels.