I know it just launched.But I just wanted to hear the opinions. OnePlus Nord 2 is pretty powerful phone, but it's a MediaTek Dimensity 1200. Normally OnePlus devices has great development support but as MediaTek device, do you think it will also have ROMs in the future?
Maybe, but we will have to wait till then.
I highly doubt. Don't keep your hopes too high. Look at the Nord CE 5G for a very recent example, in spite of having a Qualcomm proccy.
Oneplus has supposedly lost its charm after becoming Oppo.
Only hope lies for the 9T, if they can somehow figure out a way to keep the temperature/throttling low with the inherently shi*ty 888 and increase the battery life.
At least 1st thing , it should easy unlocking bootloader. (and has unbrick tool.)
Then let's hope if devs interesting this phone.
It's a bit early to suggest, but the chances of getting a custom rom with official support for Nord 2 is slim. MediaTek is the villain here. Developers cannot obtain the source code [not for free] for MediaTek chipset. Though enthusiasts may port other builds to this device for fun and experiment. Further development and official support is unlikely to happen. Either way let's hope for the best.
use fastboot flashing unlock to unlock the bootloader and wait for somebody to patch the boot.img. then lets root and wait for oneplus (hope!!!) to release the sources (though MTK has not been publishing, hope it changes)
It will probably not. I don't have a single example of MTK smartphones with custom roms. Tell me the contrary if it happened, I'm not an expert. Too bad.
mirakle said:
It will probably not. I don't have a single example of MTK smartphones with custom roms. Tell me the contrary if it happened, I'm not an expert. Too bad.
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Exactly, this should really detract companies from using their proccys but they still go to them for really cheap stuff. And people (((enthusiats))) that buy phones with MTK are really to blame. If people boycott these pathetic closed-ended devices, these manufacturers would be bound to skip such shady manufacturers or pay them extra for their source-code to be released.
I believe the sole reason MTK is cheaper because they don't reveal their source and saves them the cost on extra licensing and stuff. If they did, it might even be more expensive than Qualcomm. Although, recent Qualcomm proccys have been nice little portable electricity using inefficient frying pans, we could still say the future is bright with their market practices being sorted and waiting for the next-next gen, when they switch back to the good'ol TSMC fabrication. Samsung fabrication is really pathetic, everybody knows but they still stick to making processors, makes me sick sometimes.
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I know it just launched.But I just wanted to hear the opinions. OnePlus Nord 2 is pretty powerful phone, but it's a MediaTek Dimensity 1200. Normally OnePlus devices has great development support but as MediaTek device, do you think it will also have ROMs in the future?
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Well it depends.People have a misconception that mediatek doesn't support custom roms.But it's not entirely true.Take the case of redmi note 8 pro.It has more than 20 custom roms available and also good gcam support.In the initial stages it was struggling to get a custom rom,due to brick issues.Later developers figured out a way to unbrick the phone ,and now it's easy to unbrick if something goes wrong.
So what I'm saying is just wait for developers to pick this phone and if it becomes popular and if there's a way to unbrick for free ,then yeah surely custom rom developement will be there .
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Well it depends.People have a misconception that mediatek doesn't support custom roms.But it's not entirely true.Take the case of redmi note 8 pro.It has more than 20 custom roms available and also good gcam support.In the initial stages it was struggling to get a custom rom,due to brick issues.Later developers figured out a way to unbrick the phone ,and now it's easy to unbrick if something goes wrong.
So what I'm saying is just wait for developers to pick this phone and if it becomes popular and if there's a way to unbrick for free ,then yeah surely custom rom developement will be there .
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Nah! not going to happen. Sad but true fact. May be one or two lackluster half-baked ROMs here and there but it'll be foolhardy to expect quality stuff coming for this phone.
mirakle said:
It will probably not. I don't have a single example of MTK smartphones with custom roms. Tell me the contrary if it happened, I'm not an expert. Too bad.
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Is it that diffult to verify what you say?
Here is your exemple :
Redmi Note 8 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe
Improve your Redmi Note 8 Pro's battery life, performance, and look by rooting it and installing a custom ROM, kernel, and more.
forum.xda-developers.com
Others exist too...
LeDiable said:
Exactly, this should really detract companies from using their proccys but they still go to them for really cheap stuff. And people (((enthusiats))) that buy phones with MTK are really to blame. If people boycott these pathetic closed-ended devices, these manufacturers would be bound to skip such shady manufacturers or pay them extra for their source-code to be released.
I believe the sole reason MTK is cheaper because they don't reveal their source and saves them the cost on extra licensing and stuff. If they did, it might even be more expensive than Qualcomm. Although, recent Qualcomm proccys have been nice little portable electricity using inefficient frying pans, we could still say the future is bright with their market practices being sorted and waiting for the next-next gen, when they switch back to the good'ol TSMC fabrication. Samsung fabrication is really pathetic, everybody knows but they still stick to making processors, makes me sick sometimes.
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"the future is bright with their market practices"...
Are you serious? Qualcomm were condemned many time due to anticompetitive behavior!
Most competitors leaves the market due to patents abuse (LTE, CDMA), not tiny ones : Intel, NVIDIA, Texas Instruments, Broadcom, ST-Microelectronics.
And people like you applause!
Your name is LeDiable...a tiny evil...your master is Qualcomm...by far!
Ask Oneplus is they dont have the sources you're asking for. They have!
Even a deeper access (Mediatek Open Resource Architecture) than the have with Snapdragon : as Qualcomm's Hexagon sources are closes.
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Is it that diffult to verify what you say?
Here is your exemple :
Redmi Note 8 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe
Improve your Redmi Note 8 Pro's battery life, performance, and look by rooting it and installing a custom ROM, kernel, and more.
forum.xda-developers.com
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You are right, my bad. I've only checked for a bunch of recent MTK phones I would have be interested in. And the Redmi Note 8 Pro wasn't one of them.
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Well it depends.People have a misconception that mediatek doesn't support custom roms.But it's not entirely true.Take the case of redmi note 8 pro.It has more than 20 custom roms available and also good gcam support.In the initial stages it was struggling to get a custom rom,due to brick issues.Later developers figured out a way to unbrick the phone ,and now it's easy to unbrick if something goes wrong.
So what I'm saying is just wait for developers to pick this phone and if it becomes popular and if there's a way to unbrick for free ,then yeah surely custom rom developement will be there .
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Unlock an OnePlus is very easy, even Nord 2 is no exception. Just enable OEM unlock in the developers settings, then reboot to BootLoader and use the command: fastboot flashing unlock.
OnePlus released Kernel Source for Nord 2
Happy News
Nord 2 Kernel
JvLTech said:
OnePlus released Kernel Source for Nord 2
Happy News
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When should we expect custom roms for Nord 2?
Anuj7798 said:
When should we expect custom roms for Nord 2?
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As soon as you build it.
I would wait on custom recovery, root access, other things first.
Last time I built LineageOS for a new device it was pretty straight forward, but without working TWRP and/or MSM tools I'm not sure I'd be brave enough to try flashing anything.
hopefully custom roms start flowing in the xda and telegram space
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Unlock an OnePlus is very easy, even Nord 2 is no exception. Just enable OEM unlock in the developers settings, then reboot to BootLoader and use the command: fastboot flashing unlock.
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I don't have the Advanced Reboot option in developer settings, and when using hardware keys or adb to reboot to bootloader, I get a "the serial is not match, fastboot_unlock_verify ok" message on the screen.
Any ideas?
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I don't have the Advanced Reboot option in developer settings, and when using hardware keys or adb to reboot to bootloader, I get a "the serial is not match, fastboot_unlock_verify ok" message on the screen.
Any ideas?
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this is normal.... fastboot works with this screen... be sure to have the right drivers installed
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Oneplus x is a really nice phone , i especially like its form factor which is why i brought one just today , but i read a thread where oneplus did not release MM kernel sources and this phone's production stopped. Now i am thinking about giving it back as it would be nearly impossible for future development.
What would anyone who is a present owner suggest in such a situation ? I am only getting this phone because of its 5 inch form factor and good development team.
P.s i know onyx got some top class dev's and Nougat is already on its way, i do not doubt their potential but just this phones future development progress.
Thank you.
We don't need OnePlus for further development. We are perfectly capable of keeping it up to spec. You'll be fine. Enjoy your new toy
It's a phone. You aren't buying it for its future development, you buying it for its features and the fact that they satisfy you. Don't fall in such buyer loop.
Sent from my ONE E1001
sniper20 said:
It's a phone. You aren't buying it for its future development, you buying it for its features and the fact that they satisfy you. Don't fall in such buyer loop.
Sent from my ONE E1001
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I am a person who is easily bored out using the same rom , i like aosp but i tend to move between different roms (once a week) just because of that . The fact that this phone has CM13 , MIUI (WIP) , SAILFISH OS excited me the most. This is the only reason i look for a phone with good dev community in it which partially require OEM & Chipset supplier support to release drivers.
Of course the phone excites me but I've looped through so many phones that the phone hardware alone does not excite me anymore.
Thank you for the advise tho.
RJDTWO said:
We don't need OnePlus for further development. We are perfectly capable of keeping it up to spec. You'll be fine. Enjoy your new toy
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thank you for the reply , but might i ask why . I always thought OEM's have to release the kernel sources or the phone will have less chance to be supported by next android version because dev's have to depend on hacks to get things working which is never ideal.
tufli said:
thank you for the reply , but might i ask why . I always thought OEM's have to release the kernel sources or the phone will have less chance to be supported by next android version because dev's have to depend on hacks to get things working which is never ideal.
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No. Theoretically the only thing we need kernel wise is the DTS and a few drivers. We can pull the source for the 801 from Qualcomm themselves. We don't need an OEM outside of that
Does this mean development may be much better, despite it being a Kirin based SoC? I would imagine so.
Ascertion said:
Does this mean development may be much better, despite it being a Kirin based SoC? I would imagine so.
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No. That chip is still a nightmare to work with. Most developers have given up on honor. Only a few remain that are holding out hope.
The main issue is that qualcomm has spent decades working with 3rd party developers. Providing documentation, class and all kinds of tools to help them. Other chip makers are not willing to put that much money into it really.
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No. That chip is still a nightmare to work with. Most developers have given up on honor. Only a few remain that are holding out hope.
The main issue is that qualcomm has spent decades working with 3rd party developers. Providing documentation, class and all kinds of tools to help them. Other chip makers are not willing to put that much money into it really.
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Welp, so much for Honor's XDA partnership. Guess I'll stick with Qualcomm in the future.
Thanks for the informative reply!
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Does this mean development may be much better, despite it being a Kirin based SoC? I would imagine so.
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Yes, honor V10 (like honor 9, mate 10, mate 10 pro, P10) are allready booting allmost fully fonctionnal AOSP treble rom, take a look on treble section in xda.
ayziaa said:
Yes, honor V10 (like honor 9, mate 10, mate 10 pro, P10) are allready booting allmost fully fonctionnal AOSP treble rom, take a look on treble section in xda.
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To be honest, they have only gotten as far as devs have before when getting aosp to boot on a device that doesnt have it. Treble support has not been as important as it was lead to seem.
Treble has allow to boot one Rom on several devices using different soc. Plus it can use stock kernel so only system partition is flashed. It's as close as a revolution can happen in the Rom development world. Did you check the treble forum?
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Treble has allow to boot one Rom on several devices using different soc. Plus it can use stock kernel so only system partition is flashed. It's as close as a revolution can happen in the Rom development world. Did you check the treble forum?
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Oh I am well aware of what is going on over there. Now let me let you in on something. A stock based kernel would always boot on many devices. The thing is that most of the stuff doesnt work without changes. Which is still the case. If it is such a revolution then why are there not soo many developers involved?
We will just have to wait to see. Just how important it turns out to be. I like many dont think it will do a whole lot of anything really. As the updates are still pushed by the OEM anyway and you lose all the features from the OEM on AOSP. So almost no point to it really. It wont make updates any faster or for a longer time frame. IT will be like Net neutrality. Not a whole lot will change.
Do you think this device will get custom rom support considering the price I reckon it will the only issue is the device is only available in india that being said oneplus only sells to a select group of countries
It will get custom roms, this phone will be available also in Europe and India.
I am planning to get this device. Earlier I was hell bent on getting Asus Zenfone 5Z which boasts of same configuration as OPO6, POCO F1. But then I saw how there is absolutely no development going on for the device! I am just hoping it doesn't happen with POCO F1.
Edit : https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-poco-f1-developer-community/
Sounds promising. It's upto the developers now if they think this device deserves some Custom ROMs love ?
Easier bootloader unlocking, Kernel sources on Day 1 and Flagship specs at the cheapest available price... Surely it will get Custom ROMs once a few flash sales are over and the device ends up in a few experienced developers' hands... It surely will be the Best selling SD845 mobile in India for the coming months since other competing phones are a bit old and costly... Expect to have really healthy development considering Xiaomi phones generally have a very active community for Custom ROMs...
Dang. I just bought a mint condition Oneplus 5T for $320. Did I make the wrong decision? xD
This thing will get a lot of custom roms!
I'll be honest. The best hope this device has is Indian developers. Mostly because they will need VOLTE which is not open source. Also most of the main developers for the major teams are based in the US where this device will not be, meaning that US devs wont be getting it, nor has xiaomi been forgiven by most of the devs here on XDA.
I think by the end of next month there will be lot of custom roms for Poco F1. Good gesture from Xiaomi. Supporting developer community.
No question about that, custom ROMs are coming, definitely. Just think about this - the max 2 has already been treble-ized and a custom ROM based on android 9 is in development.
Xiaomi will be releasing GSIs for this which will be very easily kangd into custom ROMs. No good reason why there won't be loads of development
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Xiaomi will be releasing GSIs for this which will be very easily kangd into custom ROMs. No good reason why there won't be loads of development
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There is a difference in custom roms and development. They are not the same. Xiaomi always has roms. But none are developing on the device or working directly for that device.
Also the gsi don't do any good. Not for custom roms. Those will be still have to be built per device.
zelendel said:
I'll be honest. The best hope this device has is Indian developers. Mostly because they will need VOLTE which is not open source. Also most of the main developers for the major teams are based in the US where this device will not be, meaning that US devs wont be getting it, nor has xiaomi been forgiven by most of the devs here on XDA.
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Those in NA might import it, but the deciding factor will likely be availability of source, and 3G/LTE band support on global variant. Americans don't incur an "import" fee/tax like in other countries, so price shouldn't be an issue.
Kernel source is due for release on August 29th.
Reportedly compatible with the following US networks (covering most bases, I reckon):
T-Mobile 3G, T-Mobile 4G, AT&T 4G, Plateau Wireless 3G, Union Wireless 3G, Viaero Wireless 3G, West Central Wireless 3G, U.S. Cellular 4G, Verizon 4G, C Spire 4G, ClearTalk 4G, iWireless 4G, Limitless Mobile 4G, Mosaic Telecom 4G
This phone is treble enabled, so you can directly flash GSI on this and will work flawlessly (as far i think)
I will try android pie gsi as someone releases treble enabled twrp for it. It will be on xda as soon people started getting phones
zelendel said:
I'll be honest. The best hope this device has is Indian developers. Mostly because they will need VOLTE which is not open source. Also most of the main developers for the major teams are based in the US where this device will not be, meaning that US devs wont be getting it, nor has xiaomi been forgiven by most of the devs here on XDA.
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Unavailability in US has been the case for almost all Xiaomi phones but the thing is Xiaomi mobiles in XDA has one of the most active development... Many device has recieved unofficial Treble ports and already about 10 or more device has working Android Pie builds... Considering Poco F1's price and specs it shouldn't be a surprise if it ever has the most active development in XDA...
I think many Indian devs are good as any other devs outside. And even if the phone is launching in India only, many devs living outside would also try to get there hands on global version because of how much this phone offers for the price. Also Xiaomi releasing kernel source is a great move to motivate devs and upcoming devs to build custom roms.
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Unavailability in US has been the case for almost all Xiaomi phones but the thing is Xiaomi mobiles in XDA has one of the most active development... Many device has recieved unofficial Treble ports and already about 10 or more device has working Android Pie builds... Considering Poco F1's price and specs it shouldn't be a surprise if it ever has the most active development in XDA...
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Getting ports is not development.
Price doesn't mean much in many places.
You are right. It has been and that is why none of the main developers of teams ever get the device.
I still have hope for this oem but we will see. They have a lot to make up for here with developers.
As for the most development. That sadly will belong to the pixel line. Which is what all the top developers get.
zelendel said:
Getting ports is not development.
Price doesn't mean much in many places.
You are right. It has been and that is why none of the main developers of teams ever get the device.
I still have hope for this oem but we will see. They have a lot to make up for here with developers.
As for the most development. That sadly will belong to the pixel line. Which is what all the top developers get.
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In India, price means a lot... That is why most Apple has such a bad market in India and companies like Xiaomi with value for money products have such a huge market here... There are really skilled Indian Developers who opt to buy such cheap but Good devices...
They themselves stated about bootloader unlocking and custom ROM flashing in the launch event... Xiaomi is one of those very few companies who encourage rooting and stuffs without voiding the warranty...
In My personal experience, Xiaomi devices have very strong community support in XDA, I personally have Redmi 3S, Redmi Note 5 Pro and Redmi 5A... My Friends have a wide range of Redmi devices and They all have a Great custom ROM supply...
Its all from My knowledge and thoughts, just a healthy change of idea...
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In India, price means a lot... That is why most Apple has such a bad market in India and companies like Xiaomi with value for money products have such a huge market here... There are really skilled Indian Developers who opt to buy such cheap but Good devices...
They themselves stated about bootloader unlocking and custom ROM flashing in the launch event... Xiaomi is one of those very few companies who encourage rooting and stuffs without voiding the warranty...
In My personal experience, Xiaomi devices have very strong community support in XDA, I personally have Redmi 3S, Redmi Note 5 Pro and Redmi 5A... My Friends have a wide range of Redmi devices and They all have a Great custom ROM supply...
Its all from My knowledge and thoughts, just a healthy change of idea...
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They are doing the same thing OEM have done before. Not to mention that they require to unlock the bootloader is bs.
To be honest, the only reason most devs even get the device is because xda buys it for them. That is why Franco supports the OEM.
I understand that is the way it is in India. That is why I said that it will most likely be developers from there that will need to focus on development. Not to mention that VOLTE is really needed in India and not anywhere else. Nor is it part of open source. So that will take an Indian dev to work on or there will be thousands of posts asking why VOLTE doesnt work. I talked to a few of the lead devs from different teams about the device and I got the same answer from all of them, they have zero interest in the device let alone the OEM. So one of their users will have to get the device and maintain it. Hell most wont even support this oem officially. But then you really cant blame the devs after what this company has done here.
I cant say about the device as I know zero people with the device and there is less then 1% chance that I even know anyone with the device form the OEM. But that could also be part of my job as they are banned along with ZTE and hauwei.
No 9.0 PIE ports for sd845?
I checked some sd845 phones like op6, mix2s, 5z, they dont have any custom roms based on 9.0. And they dont have too much custom roms like redmi note 5 pro or a1 etc. Can somebody guide me ??
Hello
I've got some strange and somewhat tough questions or maybe not?:
1. I've seen a lot of POCO F1 photos and I'm not exactly sure if it has a good body around it so that I could not touch the screen by accident with that hand which is holding the phone while the other is writing SMS. If You need a comparison Samsung S5 and A8 2018 was good at it and they are what I would like the POCO F1 to be.
2. Is the awsesome CPU the only good pieace of hardware in that phone. How about RAM and storage speed?
3. Will POCO br treated like Mi phones or like Redmi phones?
4. How many Android upgrades wil it receive?
5. Is it Project Treble fully compatible?
Thanks and please reply what You think
The SD845 is not a CPU, it's an SoC comprised of many components. This includes Kyro CPU clusters, DSP, Adreno, x20 modem, LPDDR4x support (RAM), and UFS 2.1 support.
Third & fourth question is impossible to answer, the company hasn't made a formal promise. This phone will cannibalize their sales, so who knows.
Ace42 said:
The SD845 is not a CPU, it's an SoC comprised of many components. This includes Kyro CPU clusters, DSP, Adreno, x20 modem, LPDDR4x support (RAM), and UFS 2.1 support.
Third & fourth question is impossible to answer, the company hasn't made a formal promise. This phone will cannibalize their sales, so who knows.
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Sorry, it's a SoC, too much IT around me xDD.
Can You tell me what do you mean by saying that this phone will cannibalize their sales? (My English is bad)
How about question no 1?
Why would u buy one of their 20+ phones they have available now, when this one is so cheap?
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Why would u buy one of their 20+ phones they have available now, when this one is so cheap?
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It is complicated
Was in reference to the post above mine
To answer the unanswered questions
Poco f1 will be treated like a poco phone.
They promised Android pie.
Any phone that comes with android 8 pre installed should be 100% treble compatible.
Peace
selvarajrajkanna said:
To answer the unanswered questions
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Which questions?
androidbadboy said:
Which questions?
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Last two
selvarajrajkanna said:
Last two
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It's complicated, sorry my Friend.
androidbadboy said:
Hello
I've got some strange and somewhat tough questions or maybe not?:
1. I've seen a lot of POCO F1 photos and I'm not exactly sure if it has a good body around it so that I could not touch the screen by accident with that hand which is holding the phone while the other is writing SMS. If You need a comparison Samsung S5 and A8 2018 was good at it and they are what I would like the POCO F1 to be.
2. Is the awsesome CPU the only good pieace of hardware in that phone. How about RAM and storage speed?
3. Will POCO br treated like Mi phones or like Redmi phones?
4. How many Android upgrades wil it receive?
5. Is it Project Treble fully compatible?
Thanks and please reply what You think
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1. I don't think that will be a issue during normal use... It will be issue in any phone of You use it without a proper grip or while typing and holding with the same hand...
2. In simple words RAM and storage should also be really Good... Overall performance of this device will be really Amazing so need not worry about RAM or storage speed bottleneck...
3. It will be totally different from Mi and Redmi... Poco will be independent in software and development while sales and services will be carried out by Xiaomi...
4. That's a question that needs time to be answered but since it is independent from Mi and Redmi, it should atleast get 2 (Android P and Q) android version updates (in My view) but it will surely get Android Pie as it was announced... MIUI update should be coming for it for atleast 2 years (usually 3)...
5. Since it is released with Android Oreo, it is Treble Enabled...
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1. I don't think that will be a issue during normal use... It will be issue in any phone of You use it without a proper grip or while typing and holding with the same hand...
2. In simple words RAM and storage should also be really Good... Overall performance of this device will be really Amazing so need not worry about RAM or storage speed bottleneck...
3. It will be totally different from Mi and Redmi... Poco will be independent in software and development while sales and services will be carried out by Xiaomi...
4. That's a question that needs time to be answered but since it is independent from Mi and Redmi, it should atleast get 2 (Android P and Q) android version updates (in My view) but it will surely get Android Pie as it was announced... MIUI update should be coming for it for atleast 2 years (usually 3)...
5. Since it is released with Android Oreo, it is Treble Enabled...
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Wow, thanks, You're knowledge is amazing!
Are You a Dev?
androidbadboy said:
Hello
I've got some strange and somewhat tough questions or maybe not?:
1. I've seen a lot of POCO F1 photos and I'm not exactly sure if it has a good body around it so that I could not touch the screen by accident with that hand which is holding the phone while the other is writing SMS. If You need a comparison Samsung S5 and A8 2018 was good at it and they are what I would like the POCO F1 to be.
2. Is the awsesome CPU the only good pieace of hardware in that phone. How about RAM and storage speed?
3. Will POCO br treated like Mi phones or like Redmi phones?
4. How many Android upgrades wil it receive?
5. Is it Project Treble fully compatible?
Thanks and please reply what You think
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1. Poco F1 is amongst the many other phones which boasts of so called "bezel less" body. So clearly your question may be asked for any such phone.
2. Apart from CPU, POCO has a very good GPU, LPDDR4x RAM and UFS 2.1 Storage. So no it's just not the CPU alone.
3. POCO will be treated like a separate phone series and we might see POCO F"2" in coming days. (Realme 1 followed by Realme 2).
4. Pie has been promised by Xiaomi and the phone might just see Android Q as well. Cannot really comment on that.
5. Any phone launching with Android Oreo or later out of the box has to be Project Treble compliant so YES.
androidbadboy said:
Wow, thanks, You're knowledge is amazing!
Are You a Dev?
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Nope... Just another person like You who does a lot of research to gain some knowledge... You will soon be way Better than Me...
androidbadboy said:
Hello
I've got some strange and somewhat tough questions or maybe not?:
1. I've seen a lot of POCO F1 photos and I'm not exactly sure if it has a good body around it so that I could not touch the screen by accident with that hand which is holding the phone while the other is writing SMS. If You need a comparison Samsung S5 and A8 2018 was good at it and they are what I would like the POCO F1 to be.
2. Is the awsesome CPU the only good pieace of hardware in that phone. How about RAM and storage speed?
3. Will POCO br treated like Mi phones or like Redmi phones?
4. How many Android upgrades wil it receive?
5. Is it Project Treble fully compatible?
Thanks and please reply what You think
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2. Apart from the latest generation SOC, the ram and storage is also top notch. It has lpddr4x ram and UFS 2.1 storage so pretty fast and latest gen again.
3 & 4. With kernel source already released, camera2api enabled by default and bootloader unlocked who cares about company software support. We have excellent devs who will make this device fly for a long long time, incidentally the company has promised android P update in the 4th quarter and android security updates regularly.
SingularityHRT3 said:
Nope... Just another person like You who does a lot of research to gain some knowledge... You will soon be way Better than Me...
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WOW Thanks of thinking of me so high but with all do respect I have to disagree. Doing reaserch is not enought to become an expert. In my opinion You have to do some practise: configre many different phones, flash custom roms, service phones, try different apps and be an accual DEV.
THANKS to Ruvy, SingularityHRT3, sanjay0501
as I dont know how to reply on each reply
androidbadboy said:
WOW Thanks of thinking of me so high but with all do respect I have to disagree. Doing reaserch is not enought to become an expert. In my opinion You have to do some practise: configre many different phones, flash custom roms, service phones, try different apps and be an accual DEV.
THANKS to Ruvy, SingularityHRT3, sanjay0501
as I dont know how to reply on each reply
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I do quite a few of them, just feeling bad that I am incapable of building ROMs or by any other such (development) means contributing to the community...
You can use multi-quote to reply to many posts at once...
SingularityHRT3 said:
I do quite a few of them, just feeling bad that I am incapable of building ROMs or by any other such (development) means contributing to the community...
You can use multi-quote to reply to many posts at once...
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I tried but I failed at Multi-Qoute
(probably Folks think that I shouldnt confess to that.... well ..... long story)
androidbadboy said:
I tried but I failed at Multi-Qoute
(probably Folks think that I shouldnt confess to that.... well ..... long story)
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Let it go... I just got My hands on the device yesterday when it arrived... Its really Good... Software seems to be not yet optimised properly so it should perform far Better in a few weeks... The rounded edges are a little to big, certain UI and app elements seem to hide behind it...
Agree to that, the rounded edges at the bottom area were certainly unnecessary, so far this is the first annoyance with the phone
SingularityHRT3 said:
Let it go... I just got My hands on the device yesterday when it arrived... Its really Good... Software seems to be not yet optimised properly so it should perform far Better in a few weeks... The rounded edges are a little to big, certain UI and app elements seem to hide behind it...
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You're a power user. Can the Xiaomi Mi 8 Lite keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Xiaomi Mi 8 Lite. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Really like to know users comment on this
I think the Mi 8 Lite is not so popular, so the developments seen here appears at a very low rate. I love my Mi 8 Lite, but I think it does not have the required "development-strenght" I would like.
pablotrin said:
I think the Mi 8 Lite is not so popular, so the developments seen here appears at a very low rate. I love my Mi 8 Lite, but I think it does not have the required "development-strenght" I would like.
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Thanks for the comment!
I don't know why this device is not so popular like redmi note 5 pro. it has all the best things in a affordable price. But number of official ROMs are not bad either.
It took my current device (redmi 4 prime) about 1 year to get its first official ROM, so I think Mi 8 lite is doing kinda good here.
BTW I'm probably getting this device in 2-3 days. It's Mi 8 lite or redmi note 6 pro. Still not quite sure :/
nimbold said:
Thanks for the comment!
I don't know why this device is not so popular like redmi note 5 pro. it has all the best things in a affordable price. But number of official ROMs are not bad either.
It took my current device (redmi 4 prime) about 1 year to get its first official ROM, so I think Mi 8 lite is doing kinda good here.
BTW I'm probably getting this device in 2-3 days. It's Mi 8 lite or redmi note 6 pro. Still not quite sure :/
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I think devel is actually quite good. Well, with the exception that 2 or 3 devs are releasing all the available ROMs. That actually means that support for a single ROM is not that great, usually taking days until the dev replies, if at all. In my case, never. Something else that makes this phone very difficult to support, is the fact that individual ROMs are closely reliant on the firmware installed. Many ROMs require a specific firmware version. Most users are totally obvious to this. Look how many users have posted they cannot dial, or no sound, simply because they didn't update their firmware. To me, this is not a good road to go down and honestly makes MIUI a bad choice.
However, I love to fix and compile things, so my phone works great and this is probably the best and fastest phone I have ever owned, included all my previous Samsungs.. I plan on purchasing the top of the line Mi 9 in the next month or so and selling this one., but I do love it!
lexridge said:
I think devel is actually quite good. Well, with the exception that 2 or 3 devs are releasing all the available ROMs. That actually means that support for a single ROM is not that great, usually taking days until the dev replies, if at all. In my case, never. Something else that makes this phone very difficult to support, is the fact that individual ROMs are closely reliant on the firmware installed. Many ROMs require a specific firmware version. Most users are totally obvious to this. Look how many users have posted they cannot dial, or no sound, simply because they didn't update their firmware. To me, this is not a good road to go down and honestly makes MIUI a bad choice.
However, I love to fix and compile things, so my phone works great and this is probably the best and fastest phone I have ever owned, included all my previous Samsungs.. I plan on purchasing the top of the line Mi 9 in the next month or so and selling this one., but I do love it!
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Uh, so just not installing latest firmware causes all these weird issue that people have :|
I hope devs deal with this weird situation and keep the development alive.
All I want from a phone is active community here on xda and also good battery life.
Guess I should double check my options in this price range so I don't regret it in future
BTW congrats on soon to come Mi 9. It's a beast
nimbold said:
Uh, so just not installing latest firmware causes all these weird issue that people have :|
I hope devs deal with this weird situation and keep the development alive.
All I want from a phone is active community here on xda and also good battery life.
Guess I should double check my options in this price range so I don't regret it in future
BTW congrats on soon to come Mi 9. It's a beast
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This phone is doesn't need a custom ROM to be awesome. Even stock rooted, this phone still rocks! Now that the kernel source is out there, hopefully things will get much better regarding custom ROMs.
lexridge said:
This phone is doesn't need a custom ROM to be awesome. Even stock rooted, this phone still rocks! Now that the kernel source is out there, hopefully things will get much better regarding custom ROMs.
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Yeah it has Pie which is latest till now and I guess Android Q will come by Xiaomi. This phone specs are too good to not get
I read a few comments above that this device is not very popular and does not have sufficient support from the developers, I came from the Zenfone 3 zoom and it was a year of terror.