General Google announces Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro powered with Google Tensor SoC - Google Pixel 6

Google announces Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro powered with Google Tensor SoC.
As mentioned by Google, Tensor SoC can process Google’s most powerful AI and ML models directly.
via - https://www.gizmobolt.com/2021/08/0...d-pixel-6-pro-powered-with-google-tensor-soc/
Source -
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1422226005339557889
The device with less space above the camera bar is Google Pixel 6. The device with more space above the camera bar is Google Pixel 6 Pro. Pixel 6 Pro will have 3 cameras modules, including a telephoto lens with a 4x optical zoom.
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But, can it grill?

LeDiable said:
But, can it grill?
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Hopefully it won't give off enough heat to grill.
But the Pro model Pixel 6 from all I've been reading sure appears to be a show stopper!! Think I'll get a 5a in about 6+ months used. Looking forward to these though and I hope Google brings it 110% solid this year! If they don't it will definitely not be good for them that's for sure. Love my 4XL though! Hoping the 6 has zero issues and does all it's said to be able to do.

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Hopefully it won't give off enough heat to grill.
But the Pro model Pixel 6 from all I've been reading sure appears to be a show stopper!! Think I'll get a 5a in about 6+ months used. Looking forward to these though and I hope Google brings it 110% solid this year! If they don't it will definitely not be good for them that's for sure. Love my 4XL though! Hoping the 6 has zero issues and does all it's said to be able to do.
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I'm hoping it cook's roms well in our Developer kitchens!

I'll be excited if Google makes a compact version of a Pixel 6.
A compact version smaller than my Pixel 4a. It would need analogue audio out, preferably via USB-C as opposed to the obsolete 3.5mm connector from the 1950's. My old Pixel 2 requires a relatively expensive pair of USB-C earphones with its own (crappy quality) DAC chip. I think the Pixel 5 doesn't provide analogue audio through the USB-C port neither (correct me if I'm wrong). I once had a Sony XZ2 Compact which provided analogue audio out through the USB-C port which meant I could use cheaper earphones and would ironically still sound better due to a better DAC chip built into the phone itself. I would love to have a compact Pixel which has a little fat form factor like a Sony XZ2 Compact. Am currently still using my Pixel 4a . I like it and all and was the best choice available to me at the time I had to buy a new phone, but is still too big to use single handed comfortably and is restrictive in my pocket when climbing around tight spaces on construction sites. There are other small phones out there, but they don't support custom OS with relockable bootloader such as GrapheneOS or CalyxOS.

I feel like Tensor Cores in Pixel 6 are built to run the 'TensorFlow' open source ML platform used in Pixel 2's portrait modes -- especially given that Google has dropped pixel 4's IR hardware based depth mapping entirely and has gone to single lense hole punch front facing cameras in favor of longer exposure times over infared sensors to do low light work.

I feel like Tensor Cores in Pixel 6 are built to run the 'TensorFlow' open source ML platform used in Pixel 2's portrait modes -- especially given that Google has dropped pixel 4's IR hardware based depth mapping entirely and has gone to single lense hole punch front facing cameras in favor of longer exposure times over infared sensors to do low light work.
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I feel like Tensor Cores in Pixel 6 are built to run the 'TensorFlow' open source ML platform used in Pixel 2's portrait modes -- especially given that Google has dropped pixel 4's IR hardware based depth mapping entirely and has gone to single lense hole punch front facing cameras in favor of longer exposure times over infared sensors to do low light work.
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Did you mean to double post and please a suspect link at the bottom *I worry*

Amazing performance..

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Amazing performance..
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Sarcasm aside, we don't know if this is real (another clearly fake one has also been spotted on Geekbench), whether it was using the latest software (if real), etc... Also, benchmarks don't always translate into real world use.
But if these numbers do turn out to be accurate, it will be disappointing for sure from a strictly benchmarking point of view without consideration of AI, etc.

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But if these numbers do turn out to be accurate, it will be disappointing for sure from a strictly benchmarking point of view without consideration of AI, etc.
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When word was out that Google would be premiering their own TENSOR core CPU blah blah, people were carrying on about how it will blow everything out of the water... It was important then....
Now that initial; performance leaks suggest its nothing short of a mid spec CPU (at this state), it doesn't matter any more?

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When word was out that Google would be premiering their own TENSOR core CPU blah blah, people were carrying on about how it will blow everything out of the water... It was important then....
Now that initial; performance leaks suggest its nothing short of a mid spec CPU (at this state), it doesn't matter any more?
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Did I say it doesn't matter? No, I said from a benchmarking point of view it would be disappointing. Of course that matters. But additionally, benchmarking is not the all end be all.
And like I said, we don't even know if this "leak" is real or even accurate. We'll actually have to wait and see what the benchmarks actually end up being before drawing any firm conclusions.

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Did I say it doesn't matter? No, I said from a benchmarking point of view it would be disappointing. Of course that matters. But additionally, benchmarking is not the all end be all.
And like I said, we don't even know if this "leak" is real or even accurate. We'll actually have to wait and see what the benchmarks actually end up being before drawing any firm conclusions.
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I believe its real, but i also believe there is still some more HW/SW tweaking to be done...
Bear in mind, Google have stated they this will be a premium priced device, so one would expect premium SW and HW.
Pixel camera HW and SW have always been sensational...

i want to ask about the availability of pixel 6? which countries do pixel 6 available?

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*Post your pictures taken with the Xperia Z3 Compact*

Hey guys, many of us have received this great device already, now it's time to show how great (or not so great) pictures this device can make!
It could also help other people make their choice whether to buy it or not.
Please do not upload the image on XDA itself, but rather use a site like imgur, tinypic, imageshack, imagevenue to upload your pictures.
When you upload the images on XDA itself we won't be able to see the image in it's full glory, because the images are being compressed, hence losing their quality.
Thank you.
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Ok so I went out to take some pictures on one of the last few warm and sunny days of this year:
I first made some macro shots in the garden (I used a macro lens)
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Next I drove around town to make some pictures, all in manual mode 20.7 MP and 8MP all 4:3 ratio.
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I forgot 2 pictures that I made with backgrounddefocus:
As far as the camera goes... is it as good as it should be with that high a resolution? Probably not. Is it better than most smartphones? Yes. Is it the best? Probably not, but it will definitely do the job for any of the poor souls (like myself) coming from a Moto X.
Not bad at night, although noise reduction is crazily heavy-handed, as I've come to expect from Sony.
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I forgot 2 pictures that I made with backgrounddefocus:
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Strangely the bokeh effect in those pictures makes it looks as if the picture is sunken into my monitor, kind of like a 3D effect.
I've not had that effect so strongly with other bokehs. :cyclops:
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Not bad at all (I shudder to think what pic the Moto X would have produced haha). What settings did you use for that shot? Auto? Manual? 8MP? 15 or 20MP?
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Not bad at all (I shudder to think what pic the Moto X would have produced haha). What settings did you use for that shot? Auto? Manual? 8MP? 15 or 20MP?
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IIRC, auto at 8MP.
Honestly, though, Sony really needs to get a grip on their JPEG processing and/or allow RAW output. I don't question that this is among the best sensors in a mobile phone out there, but I miss Nokia's much better processing algorithms.
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IIRC, auto at 8MP.
Honestly, though, Sony really needs to get a grip on their JPEG processing and/or allow RAW output. I don't question that this is among the best sensors in a mobile phone out there, but I miss Nokia's much better processing algorithms.
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I'm not a photo expert or anything AT ALL!
But that's the complaint I've been hearing most of the time. Sony is one of the leaders when it comes to DSLR's and Compact camera's, but yet their Android software is lacking some things.
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I'm not a photo expert or anything AT ALL!
But that's the complaint I've been hearing most of the time. Sony is one of the leaders when it comes to DSLR's and Compact camera's, but yet their Android software is lacking some things.
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Their JPEG processing for their Alpha cameras isn't too good, either, which was just one more reason for me to just shoot in RAW when I had a NEX.
They are not artistic shots, but I found it after my iPhone session. For me looks pretty good as taken by phone camera.

			
				
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Very lovely pictures I'd say!
What country is that?
@Dsteppa please check pm
20.7 or 8 mpx?
What settings are u using? I tried lots of different combinations and cant find anything that looks great. Photos arent as sharp as I'd like.
Lyme Regis, Dorset, England. 8mp 16:9 SA
Lyme Regis, Dorset, England. 8mp 16:9 SA
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I hate when people come from Dorset ... Only because it makes me jealous lol ... I've had a lot of great holidays in Swanage.
Here's a few pictures I took, nothing special, subject wise (other than my dog ) but I was happy with the quality:
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As far as the camera goes... is it as good as it should be with that high a resolution? Probably not. Is it better than most smartphones? Yes. Is it the best? Probably not, but it will definitely do the job for any of the poor souls (like myself) coming from a Moto X.
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I'm pretty sure that I've read every review and comparison review of the Z3 camera. My conclusion is that the Z3c has the best camera for a phone it's size (except iPhone 6 which probably edges it out slightly). Expanding the comparison to larger phones, the Z3 camera is comparable to the S5, which has a very well reviewed camera. Each has strengths and weaknesses but end up as a tie overall. For someone who is very into photography though, the Z3 does offer more control, if desired, than the S5, so the photographer will likely prefer the Z3.
That's my summary from having looked at tons of reviews and comparisons and is consistent with the findings of dxomark: http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-Z3-New-Sony-flagship-Smartphone-tested
With that said, this comparison review does a good job of showing the weaknesses of the Z3 vs the best the Windows Phone has to offer.
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/20150_Camera_head_to_head_Lumia_9301.php
The DxoMark scores for the phone cameras are actually quite close, still with the edge to the Z3 overall though. The Lumia video abilities really drop their combined score though.
As long as you're expectations are reasonable (this is still a phone not a DSLR) I think you'll be happy with the Z3c, I have been so far. It's among the best cameras currently available in a phone
Wow. I need more photos sample and reviews. Please!!!

Investigating what display mounts the 6P

Thinking, I concluded that, to clear up the confusion about if the panel is from Note 5, S6, Note 4, the best thing we can do is to put the Nexus 6P under the microscope. And if we can take pics, it would be great.
Has someone a microscope?
There's pictures showing the matrix of Note 4, S5, S6, etc in Phonearena to compare.
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Thinking, I concluded that, to clear up the confusion about if the panel is from Note 5, S6, Note 4, the best thing we can do is to put the Nexus 6P under the microscope. And if we can take pics, it would be great.
Has someone a microscope?
There's pictures showing the matrix of Note 4, S5, S6, etc in Phonearena to compare.
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Lol the lengths some people go to , its an awesome display.
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Lol the lengths some people go to , its an awesome display.
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Does this bothers you?
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Does this bothers you?
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No, it's just a bit crazy don't ya think? Just my opinion.
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No, it's just a bit crazy don't ya think? Just my opinion.
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The screen is great, yes. But there's so much confusion about what screen is. I think is good to have curiosity.
i'll see if i can whip out my 1:1 macro lens (the best I can do) and take a picture of the note 5 and the nexus 6p's screen later today
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i'll see if i can whip out my 1:1 macro lens (the best I can do) and take a picture of the note 5 and the nexus 6p's screen later today
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That would be great!
The idea is to examine a full white point in the phone, so we can see the matrix.
For example, this is from a S6 Edge+:
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Thank you.
Here's what I managed to get with a Canon 100mm f/2.8 macro lens at 1:1 with a 5D Mk II. I did it handheld while the phone rested in a phone holder so it might not be fully in focus.
It's a 100% crop of a small part of the picture so you probably need a higher macro ratio to get a closer look. The screen is set at 100% brightness and showing a full white image. It looks like it's the same pixel layout as the S6 edge+ looks like it was set at half brightness.
Google already confirmed it's latest gen samsung panel: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/09/30/confirmed-nexus-6p-has-latest-gen-samsung-amoled-panel/
Brightness is indeed (much) lower than S6/note 5, not sure why ...
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Here's what I managed to get with a Canon 100mm f/2.8 macro lens at 1:1 with a 5D Mk II. I did it handheld while the phone rested in a phone holder so it might not be fully in focus.
It's a 100% crop of a small part of the picture so you probably need a higher macro ratio to get a closer look. The screen is set at 100% brightness and showing a full white image. It looks like it's the same pixel layout as the S6 edge+ looks like it was set at half brightness.
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I really appreciate a lot the work you have done. Honestly, thank you.
I investigated and the Note 4 shares the diamond shape of blue and red subpixels, and oval green subpixel with S6 and Note 5. I thought we would see more differences. But your comment about the Nexus 6P panel looks like the one of the S6 Edge+ with half brightness is good!
Hopefully something like a High Brightness Mode is hidden, like in the Nexus 6. If it's latest generation panel, we'll be able to make it brighter without burn-in.
Thank you ever so much, this has been extremely helpful.
Samsung previously never sold any of its latest gen AMOLED panels to any mobile phone manufacturer. Motorola phones from the past couple of years that used AMOLED panels were using those that were 1 or 2 generations behind the ones on Samsung flagships. That was its advantage and it looks like it might have changed its policy with the Nexus 6P.
I don't think it's that simple. Samsung could be selling to Huawei panels that are below the top grade but not bad enough to throw away - they may be using the highest quality ones for their Note 5 and S6 displays but providing those that didn't make the cut to Huawei for a good discount. That explains how some of us might be getting colour bands/shifts in the pink and green regions on our displays.
So I just went through the kernel defconfig to see what LCD panel it selects. It doesnt. I'm not sure yet how it works but I think it just uses a generic driver.
I wonder what's going on here. Did samsung manufacture a special panel for the Nexus 6p ? Or did they use an existing panel but just used some trick to lower max brightness ? In which case we might unlock higher brightness ...
Is there any way to turn the brightness up on the 6P yet? I like being able to increase the saturation with Ex Kernal, but no options for boosting brightness past stock yet. Is pushing brightness past stock even safe to do on the 6P? Or even possible?
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Samsung previously never sold any of its latest gen AMOLED panels to any mobile phone manufacturer. Motorola phones from the past couple of years that used AMOLED panels were using those that were 1 or 2 generations behind the ones on Samsung flagships. That was its advantage and it looks like it might have changed its policy with the Nexus 6P.
I don't think it's that simple. Samsung could be selling to Huawei panels that are below the top grade but not bad enough to throw away - they may be using the highest quality ones for their Note 5 and S6 displays but providing those that didn't make the cut to Huawei for a good discount. That explains how some of us might be getting colour bands/shifts in the pink and green regions on our displays.
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AMOLED panels are made from a wafer. They simply use the panels from the centre of the wafer for their flagships and sell the ones from the border which will not be as good (uneven colors, lower brightness, ...).
Knowing that this is a hot topic on*/r/android, I brought up the fact that testing has shown that on the Nexus 6P, its display has a lower maximum brightness and higher display power consumption than seen on the Note 5—key indicators of the AMOLED panel generation—I received knowing acknowledgement. So it turns out that the display panel is the same, but that much like the practice of CPU/SoC binning, there is variation inherent in AMOLED panel fabrication. Here, Google was able to procure the lower binned, yet current-generation displays from Samsung for the Nexus 6P.
Ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3ws16x/everything_i_learned_about_nexus_at_the_nyc_nexus/
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Replacing the P9000?

Hello,
so I need to ask: is there any good replacement for the P9000 at the moment? No one should know better than people on this forum I think
I was never that disappointed about the phone, sure GPS can be useless sometimes and the camera is not that great but that's not always the case and the rest is working fine.
It seems to me that there is no similar phone with the same specs at least in the same or similar price range (up to 400 €).
The reason why I'm asking is the issue that the P9000 is not able to dial emergency numbers with an SD card in use. It just ends the calls.
So when you need it the most it is of no help by not being able to perform the most simple task for a mobile phone.
I still like the phone. It has the right size (don't want a smaller - can't have a bigger one) and weight with great features (LTE bands, USB-C fast charge / Qi, NFT etc.).
Looking for alternatives there were always missing features or not the most trustworthy brands - just like Elephone lol.
For my own safety I will need a new phone soon if there is no other solution. So what's on the market right now that I should look for?
redmi note 4
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Like you, I moved from the P9000 too, similar reasons, great little phone with too many niggles - give to my son in the end and he dont mind it, he likes fiddling with rooting, custom roms n alike
I bought my mates 6 month old OnePlus 3T, (which I realize is a bit of a price jump if you bought new) which again I will give my son when my upgrade is due in around 3 months. (altho this is a great buy for the price I think atm brand new, after all its only kinda 7 months since it was released)
The problem is (or probably a bonus) there are so many "mid range" phones out there and dependent whether you looking at Chinese brands or more mainstream. If Chinese, maybe look at the Xiaomi mid-range, they seem to get pretty good reviews generally. Thing with Chinese brands some are rubbish and some really great (like Meizu, Huawei etc) and pretty hard to choose which to go for.
Although my next upgrade will be more kinda mainstream (prob Samsung, Huawei or maybe new OP5) I usually note down what I'm after on the smart phone and then check whats available at the price point I'm working on, then I usually check as many unbiased reviews I can and also scan the XDA user forums to see what actual user feedback is like.
Thanks,
I would have nothing against going mainstream with a phone.
The Oneplus 3T seems to be nice but is limited to 64GB and is a little bit too pricy, also no wireless charging.
A little research got me to the Aquarius X Pro. Also no wireless charging (I could live with) and has a smaller screen but overall it is bigger in size and heavier than the
Elephone!
Seems like the P9000 is a rare species with no evolution. Great size for a 5.5"
The Aquarius X Pro looks a nice looking phone, nice price too. btw, I know Geekbuying have a kinda flash 75 hour sale (got email this morning with few mobiles listed) maybe check em out
I was also starting to look around, still unsure. I like the look of the Huawei Mate 9 but the overall size puts me off a little ( I done have large hands) so it will look stupidly large when I good it.
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BTW I dropped my P9000 and it is now useless what a coincidence.
I log into Amazon and see, that I bought this phone exactly on the 26th of June. And that is the day I broke the screen in half
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I wouldn't hesitate a second and buy another one for now 200€. But the dialer thing is a no go and GPS reception often depends on luck.
I'm thinking about Honor 8 now but the glass backside is made for a disaster and I don't know about the EMUI thing.
The BQ seems to be too new to get a price drop. Bad luck with my timing I think
The two features of the P9000 that you will find hard to match are wireless charging and overall size. I haven't come across another reasonably priced 5.5" phone that's as small overall as the P9000 and wireless charging is rare in budget phones. But if these features aren't too important to you then there a dozens of phones to chose from.
A good place to start is kimovil.com - you can select the features that you want and get a list of available devices and prices.
I just bought a Redmi 4X for my son - only 5" and 720p, but an absolute bargain at $125 (now).
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The two features of the P9000 that you will find hard to match are wireless charging and overall size. I haven't come across another reasonably priced 5.5" phone that's as small overall as the P9000 and wireless charging is rare in budget phones. But if these features aren't too important to you then there a dozens of phones to chose from.
A good place to start is kimovil.com - you can select the features that you want and get a list of available devices and prices.
I just bought a Redmi 4X for my son - only 5" and 720p, but an absolute bargain at $125 (now).
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Yes, I can live without wireless charging although I got all the hardware and new cars are coming out with this function so I don't see why they can't implement that into more phones.
Size is a bigger problem. Seems like I have to go with 5.2 or less to match the overall size of the P9000. Too bad Elephone is a ****ty company that doesn't seem to care about a phone once it is released.
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I just switched from P9000 to Redmi Note 4, WITH LTE Band 20, this week. Main reason: small Screen crack. So far everything fine, I just miss wireless charging.
Good luck, Redmi should be a good choice.
I am going to get a BQ phone, giving a non-chinese brand a shot.

Chose a Feature for the Note 8! (fngrprnt scanner under display useless?)

I keep reading in all tech news about how the Galaxy Note 8 will miss the "Game Changing" fingerprint scanner under the display (example article link below). I don't get it. And here's why:
A fingerprint scanner is a mean to unlock your phone. It's not an actual feature you use. It's not something that will give you a better experience when you actually use your phone. For example, if you prefer the iris scanner, or you don't even lock your phone, that's it. You won't even be using it. And you will not be missing on anything since it's not a feature based on usage experience. It's not even something that should be advertise as a "game changing" feature. It doesn't change anything.
There are way more important game changing feature that the Note 8 could have:
- Dual Speakers for better hearing experience when sharing music with your friends, or just listening to music when working or chilling, especially when you do not want to use headphones. Dual Speakers means stereo music experience. This is a true improvement.
- 4K Display would mean better VR experience without the screen door effect. Now that's an improvement I kept advertising in previous threads already.
- Dual Camera or even Stereoscopic Cameras for optical zoom and 3D shooting when needed. And even 180 degree 3D camera. Now that's "game changing". It gives you the option, if you wish so, to shoot in 3D or in 180 degree. It's something more you can do with your phone. It's a new feature.
But for some reason way beyond me, the whole tech media prefers to focus on a "Fingerprint scanner under the display"...
----------- One could argue that "Yeah but a fingerprint scanner under the display is also an improvement".
It would be naive to think so. Because it is not. A Fingerprint scanner under a display doesn't improve in anyways your experience when unlocking your phone. Let me explain:
There are no technical differences between unlocking your phone by pressing a home button with integrated fingerprint scanner or pressing an area of the display with a fingerprint sensor under it. For you it's the exact same gesture, the same "unlocking experience". You put your finger in a specific area, and the phone unlock.
In fact, it doesn't even make a technical difference if the sensor is under a home button, under a display, under a speaker, on the back of the phone, under the camera, on the side of the phone, on the top bottom left, very little to the right, yes right there, etc... You still have to put your finger on that area for the phone to unlock.
An improvement would be "The Phone Unlocks Wherever you Press on the Display". Ok. Now that would be an improvement I would accept to argue against. "Hey, wherever I touch my phone, it unlocks immediately". Now yes. This is an improved experience. I still wouldn't care for it, but i would accept it as an improvement.
But tech is not there yet. And you, pressing a specific area under a display or anywhere else, doesn't make any difference and is NOT Game Changing.
--------------- But enough of what I think. Maybe I am missing something. So that's why I started a Poll. Please vote and please share your opinions.
PS: Here's a link to one of the articles I am talking about. There are many like this one.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordon...ice-cost-expensive-release-date/#38711146202b
I could careless about finger print at the back, its bad but I will use the Iris scanner Or pattern its not a huge deal when you find alternative. I also do not care about 6 of RAM That much unless samsung figures out how to take advantage of it. I also do not care for 3300 Mah battery since the new processors are reducing power consumption and s8 plus taught us a lesson about lower mah with larger screen on time.
What I would love to see:
- Better battery life (6 Hours Minmum even on Full HD At least!)
- New S Pen features That are innovative
- Faster
- that it doesn't explode or suffer in water resistance test
- that it comes with 128 gb sd card gift
- That bixby some how interacts with the S Pen.
- The the S Pen got the ability to read Text for me.
Other Wise I am not really complaining no thing to complain in the Note 8 it looks almost perfect (ignore finger print that has an alternative or 4k because it drains the battery). as for Dual Horizontal camera samsung must have a reason for this. 4k sucks because VR Is pointless for me at moment, it will increase the battery and display resolution causing cost problems and battery drain for the back I don't care how pretty or ugly it is. it can't be any worse than the Note 5.
What I am loving so far :
- The fact it supports SD Cards. I am buying 200 GB SD Card with the 64 GB Model giving me a total of 230 GB Of Storage (because sd card will be 180 GB total and the 64 gb model will need about 10 GB Of storage for the Stock ROM). Pretty enough for me!
- The fact the screen is Huge and Bezeless Perfect to write on using the S Pen!
I am waiting until samsung surprises me with the Software features of the Note 8.
P.S : Here is the Rumored S Pen :
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Ive long wanted to see front firing speakers in samsung devcies...would be awesome.
Now that apple sort of does it samsung should really step up.
I prefer the fingerprint sensor on the back ever since my nexus 6p but not up by the camera like on my s8 plus...its not bad but not ideal either
I didnt like the front sensors on my s6, s7 edge and note 7 because you had to press to turn the screen on then unlock which is stupid.
Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6

Honor 20 Rumors and Predictions

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The Honor 20 is set to launch May 21, 2019 in London. Little is known about this phone other than a few leaks here and there. In this thread, post what leaks you have found, and what your predictions are for this device. List the specs, price, availability ect. that you'd like to see on the upcoming Honor 20.
It think it will be an all rounder series.
improvements
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The Honor 20 is set to launch May 21, 2019 in London. Little is known about this phone other than a few leaks here and there. In this thread, post what leaks you have found, and what your predictions are for this device. List the specs, price, availability ect. that you'd like to see on the upcoming Honor 20.
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I think they improve on the points that flanked the previous
I'll say we will get greater of the Honor.
Honor20 series has 3 phones(All have 32MP front cams)
1) Honor 20 Lite = Honor 20i released in China
2)Honor 20 (YAL-AL00 and YAL-TL00)
6.2 inch 1080p OLED (waterdrop notch).
6th gen optical/ Qualcomm ultrasonic fingerprint scanner.
Kirin 980, 6/8GB RAM, 64/128GB ROM & MagicUI 9.1.
48MP RGGB + 16MP ultra wide + 2x optical zoom.
Around 3500 mah battery, 22.5W charging, USB 3.1 & 3.5mm jack.
Single Speaker, No wireless charging or IP Rating.
3) Honor20Pro
6.5 inch 1080p curved(?) OLED (waterdrop notch or ?).
6th gen optical/ Qualcomm ultrasonic fingerprint scanner.
Kirin 980, 6/8GB RAM, 64/128GB ROM & MagicUI 9.1.
Same P30 camera setup + TOF .
Around 3900mah battery, 22.5/40W (?) charging, USB 3.1, 3.5mm jack & IR Blaster.
Single/Dual speaker (?), No Wireless charging or IP Rating.
Versus the competion:-
Its main competitor is the OnePlus 7 series.
Leave the hardware aside,
Magic UI vs O2 OS - Oxygen OS is the people's favourite even if Magic UI has more features, EROFS & is faster.
Coming to hardware,
as we still don't know the complete confirmed specs of any of these phones, let's make a blind guess of the main hardware.
If 1+ uses IMX 586 as main sensor in both phones & 1+7 has an ultra wide & 1+7 Pro has both ultra-wide & telephoto, then 1+7 series can only match camera hardware of Honor 20, and Honor20Pro will be the superior out of the four in camera hardware.
But 1+7 Pro's 1440p Notchless 90Hz screen will be unmatched.
1+7 series also has the lead with SD 855.
So overall, its a tough fight for Honor20 series & they seem to just have an advantage in camera department & 1+ takes the rest.
Hence only if Honor20 series undercuts 1+7 series with price, it will sell well.
Será un dispositivo de gama alta cuya memoria RAM ascendera hasta los 8 GB y llevará el último procesador Kirin 980.
Honor 20 series prediction
In true fashion of Honor's commitment towards design, fashion and technology, and being the parallel to the Huawei P30, I expect the Honor 20 to be a stunning piece of hardware with an emphasis on cameras. The internals would be the Kirin 980 with 6 or 8 GB RAM and 128 and above GB ROM options. The most interesting part to me is the rumor about the quad cameras and the expectation from Honor to pull off another unique design on the glass back of the phone. Hoping to see the best of Honor soon.
it should be good value for the moeny
The Honor series has always been fantastic devices. I expect this one to be greatest one to date
It should be the best of Honor in 2019.
Just make it All in one
https://www.gsmarena.com/honor_20_pro_render_appears_shows_off_the_quadcamera_setup-news-36603.php
GSMArena has posted a render of Honor 20 that shows off a quad-camera setup on the back.
They guess the cameras are 5x periscope telephoto unit + ultra wide-angle + standard + 3D ToF camera for depth information with Sony's IMX600 sensor.
The new device will have a 6.1” OLED panel with an under-display fingerprint scanner, and it could be the first Honor phone outside China with the technology (it is currently available only on the Honor Magic 2, a China-only smartphone). The chipset is said to be Kirin 980, coupled with three memory configurations - 6/128 GB, 8/128 GB, and 8/256 GB.
A lot was leaked, I think the triple camera setup on the rear is a must, maybe (hopefully) improved from facing camera, fingerprint reader under the screen, please keep the headphone jack!
Since this phone is said to be “Pro”, its cameras are likely to be better than the Honor View 20 setup. The sources claim it will have a 40 MP camera just like the Huawei P30 Pro. The main shooter will be coupled with a 20 MP ultra-wide-angle cam and an 8 MP telephoto lens with 3x optical zoom. There are also the usual Chinese software boosters like Gaming+, Link Turbo, CPU & GPU Turbo, etc.
As know honor for more modern and fashion way for cellphone
Will be colorful with curves . Red blue black purple
Powerful camera (front 24-35)
With 3 back cameras
I’m sure something will be new and stunning
Face face lock and maybe voice lock
Support 3D games and high quality speakers
I can Waite till next month to see it
Love you all
Lite, normal and pro should be the honor20 variants.
What I predict is it will have 3X or 5X Optical Zoom.
Expecting flagship specs
I think honor 20 series will come up with higher storage RAM and ROM plus the Mega Pixels will more powerful
http://www.sohu.com/a/308805041_223764?sec=wd
Honor President George Zhao spoke to reporters in the press conference of Honor 20i on April 17, Honor 20 series will be sent to DxO and got scores.
Just curious what the scores of Honor 20 Series on DxOmark, is it any possible to exceed Huawei Mate 20 or Samsung S10?

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