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I got an replacement due to my phone beyond repair.
I'm running original stock firmware, of-course rooted. Since the replacement I'm trying to get my phone to full charge but it doesn't and also I notice that the charging is quite slow.
I installed "Battery Monitor Widget" to see how much power it is drawing and found that AC power draws only about 350+mA and sometimes it is as low as 8mA. (Some times it draws about 750+mA). I notice that the temperature also reaches somewhere about 45 to 48 degree.
Once it reaches about 90% or so, it starts to drain battery instead of charing it.
I find it quite abnormal. Anyone with this kind of problem and found an solution?
Thanks in advance for the replies and suggestions.
What I'd sudjest is updating your phone through seus or PC companion or if your an American at & t user update to a newer firmware through the flash tool (you can find I link to it through my signiture) or if you can't update try and use the repair option through seus or PC compainion.
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The Gingerbread Man said:
What I'd sudjest is updating your phone through seus or PC companion or if your an American at & t user update to a newer firmware through the flash tool (you can find I link to it through my signiture) or if you can't update try and use the repair option through seus or PC compainion.
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Thanks for your reply.
I did that yesterday. I repaired the firmware and reloaded all the application one by one from scratch. The only thing I restored is contacts so that I could eliminate all the other factors which can cause this issue.
My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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The Gingerbread Man said:
My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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Thanks once again for the reply.
I tired that too every time I try to charge the phone. Still it refuses to complete the charging.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
What about off line charging ie; turning the phone off and doing that way?
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The Gingerbread Man said:
My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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+1 it helped me off this problem
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The Gingerbread Man said:
What about off line charging ie; turning the phone off and doing that way?
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Good idea. I will try that as well as try to do a clean wipe and just try to charge with nothing loaded in. That will give a better idea where the problem is.
Thanks for the great tip, I will update you tomorrow.
Had that happen before, I had to remove sim card and let it drain out slowly for a week, then charge. Problem solved
I think I had similar problem, except that my processor went on full load when its almost fully charged causing it to drain the battery instead. Still lookin for answer to that, will wiping battery stats help?
I reset my phone to factory and did a re-flashing again using SEUS and I tried it charging immediately without loading any application (only loaded Battery Monitor Widget from Market to see the battery temperature and mA units drawn) and wow, it charged like a normal X10. So I guess it has something to do with whatever I loaded or modded it with.
I'm trying to find it out. Later tonight I will try to load all the application one-by-one and try again to charge to see whether I can isolate it.
During this process, I did takeout my SIM card for a period of 1 hour or so, so not sure whether that did the trick (If that's the case, thanks to gogogu)
In the meantime, I have a strong feeling it would be due to the flashtool and new recovery, but again there isn't any proof. I suspect this because this is the new thing I did compared to my old phone.
Any thoughts are welcome.
Monitor the CPU usage as well
zymphonyx said:
Monitor the CPU usage as well
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I don't have issues with processor. It works at full throttle when it supposed to work and then goes back to normal.
Hrmmm alright, but if you ever had the draining issue while charging and the battery temp rises up again. Check the CPU usage just incase
After yesterday's event, seems like stable (I did face the same issue once). Not sure which cured it and currently monitoring...
EDIT: Back to square one. The issue started again and the battery refues to fully charge! I'm going mad
Finally given up, sent for service and came back after 5 days of repair.
Repair Notes: No problem found !!!
But today morning I tried to charge and it's the same issue . Makes me go mad. Really, I don't know what to do!
Please help me friends .......
I too have exactly the same problem with my x10i.....
tried everything like rooting, using stock & custom ROMs, etc... still problem persist ...
while charging , power goes from 900mA to 200mA or lower, & doesn't reach 100% full...
i use current widget from market to read the power values ....
please help me friends .... to resolve my problem ...
Thanks a lot...
Makzer.
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hello mates...
please reply to my problem dear friends ..
looking forward ...
LiveSquare said:
I got an replacement due to my phone beyond repair.
I'm running original stock firmware, of-course rooted. Since the replacement I'm trying to get my phone to full charge but it doesn't and also I notice that the charging is quite slow.
I installed "Battery Monitor Widget" to see how much power it is drawing and found that AC power draws only about 350+mA and sometimes it is as low as 8mA. (Some times it draws about 750+mA). I notice that the temperature also reaches somewhere about 45 to 48 degree.
Once it reaches about 90% or so, it starts to drain battery instead of charing it.
I find it quite abnormal. Anyone with this kind of problem and found an solution?
Thanks in advance for the replies and suggestions.
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What program do you use to check your battery temperature. I rememeber there was one that wass bettery draining. The same is also possible with battery level monitor
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Use this tool forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415600
Please read this. There is a lot of batt info on xda just search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
I realize that much of this is common knowledge on XDA. Still, every day I see people post about how their phone "loses" 10% as soon as it comes off the charger. I also have friends who can't understand why their battery drains so quickly. Trying to explain this to people without hard numbers is often met with doubt, so I figured that I'd actually plot it out with real data.
So it's not a piece that is optimized for this audience, but I hope that you find it interesting.
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Your Smartphone is Lying to You
(and it's not such a bad thing)
Climbing out of bed, about to start your day, you unplug your new smartphone from its wall charger and quickly check your email. You've left it plugged in overnight, and the battery gauge shows 100%. After a quick shower, you remember that you forgot to send your client a file last night. You pick up your phone again, but the battery gauge now reads 90%. A 10% drop in 10 minutes? The phone must be defective, right?
A common complaint about today's smartphones is their short battery life compared to older cell phones. Years ago, if you accidentally left your charger at home, your phone could still make it through a weeklong vacation with life to spare (I did it more than once). With the newest phones on the market, you might be lucky enough to make it through a weekend.
And why should we expect anything else? Phones used to have a very short list of features: make and receive phone calls. Today we use them for email, web surfing, GPS navigation, photos, video, games, and a host of other tasks. They used to sport tiny displays, while we now have giant touch screens with bright and vibrant colors. All of these features come at a cost: large energy requirements.
Interestingly enough, improvements in battery management technology have compounded the average user's perception of this problem. Older phones were rather inelegant in their charging behavior; usually filling the battery to capacity and then switching to a trickle current to maintain the highest charge possible. This offered the highest usage time in the short-term, but was damaging the battery over the course of ownership. As explained at Battery University, "The time at which the battery stays at [maximum charge] should be as short as possible. Prolonged high voltage promotes corrosion, especially at elevated temperatures."[1]
This is why many new phones will "lose" up to 10% within a few minutes of coming off the charger. The reality is that the battery was only at 100% capacity for a brief moment, after which the battery management system allowed it to slowly dip down to around 90%. Leaving the phone plugged in overnight does not make a difference: the phone only uses the wall current to maintain a partial charge state.
To monitor this, I installed CurrentWidget on my HTC ADR6300 (Droid Incredible), an app that can log how much electric current is being drawn from the battery or received from the charger. Setting it to record log entries every 10 seconds, I have collected a few days worth of data. While many variables are involved (phone hardware, ROM, kernel, etc) and no two devices will perform exactly the same, the trends that I will describe are becoming more common in new phones. This is not just isolated to a single platform or a single manufacturer.
Chart 1 shows system reported battery levels over the course of one night, with the phone plugged in to a charger. Notice that as the battery level approaches 100%, the charging current gradually decreases. After a full charge is reached, wall current is cut completely, with the phone switching back to the battery for all of its power. It isn't until about two hours later that you can see the phone starts receiving wall current again, and even then it is only in brief bursts.
The steep drop in reported battery seen past the 6.5 hour mark shows the phone being unplugged. While the current draw does increase at this point (since the phone is being used), it still cannot account for the reported 6% depletion in 3 minutes. It should also be obvious that maintaining a 100% charge state is impossible given the long spans in which the phone is only operating on battery power.
Using the data from CurrentWidget, however, it is quite easy to project the actual battery state. Starting with the assumption that the first battery percentage reading is accurate, each subsequent point is calculated based on mA draw and time. Chart 2 includes this projection.
Now we can see that the 6% drop after unplugging is simply the battery gauge catching up with reality.
The phone manufacturers essentially have three choices:
1. Use older charging styles which actually maintain a full battery, thereby decreasing its eventual life
2. Use new charging methods and have an accurate battery gauge
3. Use new charging methods and have the inaccurate battery gauge
Option one has clearly fallen out of favor as it prematurely wears devices. Option two, while being honest, would most likely be met with many complaints. After all, how many people want to see their phone draining down to 90% while it is still plugged in? Option three therefore offers an odd compromise. Maybe phone companies think that users will be less likely to worry about a quick drop off the charger than they will worry about a "defective" charger that doesn't keep their phone at 100% while plugged in.
Bump It. Or Should You?
One technique that has gained popularity in the user community is "bump charging." To bump charge a device, turn it off completely, and plug it into a charger. Wait until the indicator light shows a full charge (on the ADR6300, for example, the charging LED changes from amber to green) but do not yet turn the device back on. Instead, disconnect and immediately reconnect the power cord. The device will now accept more charge before saying it is full. This disconnect/reconnect process can be repeated multiple times, each time squeezing just a little bit more into the battery. Does it work?
The following chart plots battery depletion after the device has received a hefty bump charge (6 cycles) and then turned on to use battery power. Note that the system does not show the battery dropping from 100% until well over an hour of unplugged use, at which point it starts to steadily decline. Again, however, it should be obvious that the battery gauge is not syncing up with reality. How could the rate of depletion be increasing over the first 5 hours while the rate of current draw is relatively steady? And why does the projected battery line separate from the reported levels, but then exactly mirror the later rises and falls?
The answer, of course, is that bump charging definitely works. Rather than anchoring our projected values to the first data point of 100%, what happens if we anchor against a later point in the plot?
Aligning the data suggests that a heavy bump charge increases initial capacity by approximately 15%. Note that the only other time that the lines separate in this graph was once again when the phone was put on the charger and topped up to 100%. Just as with the first set of graphs, the phone kept reporting 100% until it was unplugged, dropped rapidly, and again caught up with our projections.
So what does it all mean?
If you absolutely need the highest capacity on a device like this, you will need to bump charge. There are currently people experimenting with "fixes" for this, but I have yet to see one that works. Be warned, however, that repeated bump charging will wear your battery faster and begin to reduce its capacity. If you are a "power user" who will buy a new battery a few months from now anyway, this presumably isn't a concern. If you are an average consumer who uses a device for a few years, I would recommend that you stay away from bump charging. The bottom line is that you don't really "need" to do it unless you are actually depleting your battery to 0% on a regular basis.
If you are someone who can top off your phone on a regular basis, do it. Plug it in when you're at home. Plug it in when you're at your desk. As explained by Battery University, "Several partial discharges with frequent recharges are better for lithium-ion than one deep one. Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because there is no memory."[2]
Beyond that, the best advice I can offer is to stop paying such close attention to your battery gauge and to just use your phone. Charge it whenever you can, and then stop obsessing over the exact numbers. If you really need more usage time, buy an extended-capacity battery and use it normally.
From my XPERIA X10S v8.2 on JaBKerneL @ 1.15ghz
Just bought a Samsung S6 Edge, my first venture into samsung devices since before I purchased my first HTC the G1. I have always been an HTC fan but I thought this phone look pretty special and so I took the plunge.
Since then however I have been nothing but disappointed. When I first started to use the phone it was very responsive and the screen and features are very impressive, however my HTC M8 is at the moment considerably faster with Lollipop 5.02 and M9 ported software than my S6 Edge despite having considerably more power. When I open the smart case the screen only turns on for 1 second then turns itself off, the phone is laggy and it can take some apps several seconds to launch. Side by side with my M8 it just isn't coming close using the same setup and the same apps.
After having brushed of the fiasco over the charger of my Samsung Gear Live watch breaking the rear of the watch I am not sure I trust Samsung?
What is wrong with this device??
I came from the HTC One M8 and s6 Edge is faster.
Maybe you got a defective device?
I have no lag at all on mine and I haven't heard anyone complain about lag so far.
Its not laggy, you're laggy!
Mine has been lagging considerably and overheating quite a bit. It's very frustrating. Also, the battery is terrible.
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Mine has been lagging considerably and overheating quite a bit. It's very frustrating. Also, the battery is terrible.
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My HTC has always lasted a day with plenty to spare, my S6 requires charging as soon as I get home
ozaghloul said:
Its not laggy, you're laggy!
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Huh?? strange response!
I will just leave this...so you know I'm not blowing smoke. All that on netflix and on data LTE only. I easily hit 14-18 hrs on battery daily.
Edit 5hr 58mins on Netflix....
sherman901 said:
Mine has been lagging considerably and overheating quite a bit. It's very frustrating. Also, the battery is terrible.
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Your issues point to a rouge app. It sounds like the app is sucking CPU time constantly and thus your phone is overheating. This also causes big time lag and battery drain. Get an app like GSAM or Better Battery to see which app is causing the issue and then kill the app!!
Sword Fish said:
Your issues point to a rouge app. It sounds like the app is sucking CPU time constantly and thus your phone is overheating. This also causes big time lag and battery drain. Get an app like GSAM or Better Battery to see which app is causing the issue and then kill the app!!
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Downloaded GSAM and the root companion. No apps are killing my battery. The leading culprit is Android System.
could be the no sleeping bug..please check if your phone hits the sleep...
sherman901 said:
Downloaded GSAM and the root companion. No apps are killing my battery. The leading culprit is Android System.
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Download Better Battery Stats and see what your leading kernel wake lock is. Mine was something no one had heard of and Google had NO info about. It kept my phone awake 60% of the time or more - no amount of flashing stock firmware or factory resetting helped. I had to exchange the device. The wakelock in my case was lli_pm_wlock
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Download Better Battery Stats and see what your leading kernel wake lock is. Mine was something no one had heard of and Google had NO info about. It kept my phone awake 60% of the time or more - no amount of flashing stock firmware or factory resetting helped. I had to exchange the device. The wakelock in my case was lli_pm_wlock
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Oh wow. I've got the exact same issue. So this is something that can only be remedied by replacement?
Your chart looks crazy. They're ALL at 100%. I'd return it if flashing stock firmware didnt fix it.
Use smart switch to back up your apps and data, then use it to reinstall the firmware. Restore your apps/data and see if you're fixed. You'll be all stock again but its worth a shot before doing the return.
Maybe it's caused by memory link.
I believe all this lagging issue is caused by memory link. My Ram is always on 87% (2.2 GB of Ram) yet i'm not running any app, sometimes i tap and it doesn't respond, then after a couple seconds it responds to all the taps made which drives it nuts. Otherwise, i love it, it's very fast and smooth most of the time. Been a fun of HTC for years, S6 Edge is my first Samsung Phone and i don't regret changing. Hope they fix the few problems some of us got.
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• I put this thread in this section because of the "Other" tag. If it is unrelated consider moving my post, thank you.
• This is an issue report for my device, I am not saying that everybody got the same. ]
Hello,
I got a battery issue on my Samsung Galaxy Core Prime for at least more than a year.
The problem is: almost everytime, my phone crash when arround 40% battery level. It's not an informatic crash but... I'm not sure. The phone just suddenly shut down, not as it ran out of battery, displaying the shutdown logo and going to sleep, it behave like I pulled off the battery.
This is not a battery misplacement problem because the shutdown doesn't happen a totally random way: it never triggered over 50% for now.
Moreover, the battery level goes wrong after such crash. Even after waiting some time with battery out of phone I got randomly a new battery percentage that will be either lower, same or even higher than when it crashed. So maybe the whole problem is due to a shift between real battery percentage and what phone determined.
I also noticed that when rebooting after the crash the phone speakers make a weird sound, a kind of "shhhhhhhh" even with silent mode enabled and no system sound, and when it happens phone recrash on booting (system) logo.
I personally don't think it's system's fault, because between the first time it happened and now I may have flashed at least 6 times my ROM and made various wipes. Also somebody getting the same phone model than me never got such problem, even tough he is not rooted and has recent firmware. In the end the problem getting worse and worse again (=more frequent) so I'm almost sure it's a material problem.
But which one? Is this directly battery's fault or is it captor's fault? Actually I threatened the battery very badly, it's true. But everything I did — overcharging, emptying battery at the time I thought that was a good thing because of a suppoesed memory effect like nickel batteries, using charger block from an older device with a bit different configuration — should have shortened the battery's life, however it's just like the battery is now discharging a bit faster but got a kind of danger zone where you're not sure that it will keep behaving normally, so much that some measurements and developing apps determined that my battery have a good health, that is maybe absolutely FALSE.
Talking about this danger zone, I also noticed something even stranger over all.
Depending of what I do, I got higher or lower chance to have my phone crashing under 40% level:
- If Wifi is enabled, the phone got arround a half more chance to shut down unexpectedly.
- This is worse when using data consuming app (i.e. Youtube)
- Using more hardware also increase this phenomenon (when using camera) and enabling flash instantaneously and almost everytime crash the phone.
Here are what I reported.
What do you think?
It has happened to me many times. So i normally keep it charging all the time to be safe.
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It has happened to me many times. So i normally keep it charging all the time to be safe.
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All the time for real? Be careful, that's not a good practice. Unless you removed the battery first, this will get worse if you do that.
I have a similar but possibly unrelated problem.
If i charge upto 100%, the battery goes directly to 0 after around 50%.
If i charge upto 50%, then the battery drains rapidly after around 20%.
I don't think its a battery problem because its the same with two replacement batteries and a stock battery. (Or maybe I have a bad luck and bought ****ty batteries)
Will post a screenshot soon...
I have the Same problem i changed the battery twice but i still have the issue
rms112 said:
I have a similar but possibly unrelated problem.
If i charge upto 100%, the battery goes directly to 0 after around 50%.
If i charge upto 50%, then the battery drains rapidly after around 20%.
I don't think its a battery problem because its the same with two replacement batteries and a stock battery. (Or maybe I have a bad luck and bought ****ty batteries)
Will post a screenshot soon...
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What you posted is close to what I noticed, so it is not unrelated.
This is weird that after buying two more batteries the issue still occure...
I've this problem too :/ (G361H)
I have this problem too. This is the batteries fault only.
Atronid said:
[Notes:
• I put this thread in this section because of the "Other" tag. If it is unrelated consider moving my post, thank you.
• This is an issue report for my device, I am not saying that everybody got the same. ]
Hello,
I got a battery issue on my Samsung Galaxy Core Prime for at least more than a year.
The problem is: almost everytime, my phone crash when arround 40% battery level. It's not an informatic crash but... I'm not sure. The phone just suddenly shut down, not as it ran out of battery, displaying the shutdown logo and going to sleep, it behave like I pulled off the battery.
This is not a battery misplacement problem because the shutdown doesn't happen a totally random way: it never triggered over 50% for now.
Moreover, the battery level goes wrong after such crash. Even after waiting some time with battery out of phone I got randomly a new battery percentage that will be either lower, same or even higher than when it crashed. So maybe the whole problem is due to a shift between real battery percentage and what phone determined.
I also noticed that when rebooting after the crash the phone speakers make a weird sound, a kind of "shhhhhhhh" even with silent mode enabled and no system sound, and when it happens phone recrash on booting (system) logo.
I personally don't think it's system's fault, because between the first time it happened and now I may have flashed at least 6 times my ROM and made various wipes. Also somebody getting the same phone model than me never got such problem, even tough he is not rooted and has recent firmware. In the end the problem getting worse and worse again (=more frequent) so I'm almost sure it's a material problem.
But which one? Is this directly battery's fault or is it captor's fault? Actually I threatened the battery very badly, it's true. But everything I did — overcharging, emptying battery at the time I thought that was a good thing because of a suppoesed memory effect like nickel batteries, using charger block from an older device with a bit different configuration — should have shortened the battery's life, however it's just like the battery is now discharging a bit faster but got a kind of danger zone where you're not sure that it will keep behaving normally, so much that some measurements and developing apps determined that my battery have a good health, that is maybe absolutely FALSE.
Talking about this danger zone, I also noticed something even stranger over all.
Depending of what I do, I got higher or lower chance to have my phone crashing under 40% level:
- If Wifi is enabled, the phone got arround a half more chance to shut down unexpectedly.
- This is worse when using data consuming app (i.e. Youtube)
- Using more hardware also increase this phenomenon (when using camera) and enabling flash instantaneously and almost everytime crash the phone.
Here are what I reported.
What do you think?
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My device goes at 60%, 40%, etc. and then it starts repedeatly pressing the right side of my screen and not letting me tap the screen, so I lock it and unlock it very fast and I can use the touchscreen for a few moments, before it shuts down without the shutdown screen and makes a *tick* sound, almost like there was an electrical shock inside the battery. I have a PRF and TWRP 2.8.7.0.
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My device goes at 60%, 40%, etc. and then it starts repedeatly pressing the right side of my screen and not letting me tap the screen, so I lock it and unlock it very fast and I can use the touchscreen for a few moments, before it shuts down without the shutdown screen and makes a *tick* sound, almost like there was an electrical shock inside the battery. I have a PRF and TWRP 2.8.7.0.
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Got exactly the same problem. You can try to change the battery but in my opinion the only good solution would be to buy another phone. This is personally what I did, as this model gets old really early.
EdyCommentaries said:
My device goes at 60%, 40%, etc. and then it starts repedeatly pressing the right side of my screen and not letting me tap the screen, so I lock it and unlock it very fast and I can use the touchscreen for a few moments, before it shuts down without the shutdown screen and makes a *tick* sound, almost like there was an electrical shock inside the battery. I have a PRF and TWRP 2.8.7.0.
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I have this same exact problem and the only fixes according to me is to buy a new phone or replace the battery. Also I noticed that the battery of my device has bulged.
RIP, I have the SM-G360T1, stock based custom ROM with TWRP 3.0.1 and this thing's started to give up. Same issues as the people above encountered. The phantom touches are getting wayyy more repetitive, the battery all of a sudden goes down to an extremely low percentage, even at medium to high percentages (such as 50-60%) and even shuts off without any notification. I also had cases where the phone would completely turn off with no shutdown animation AT ALL, plus a spontaneous but audible *TICK* that follows it. Device performance in general also started to horribly depreciate.
Well, to be fair, I had this device for 3 years and I guess it had its day. Time to upgrade.
My device has started to shut off at 80% battery levels and even worse the device gives just about 25-30 min of SOT. Also stressing the device in any way.. games, YouTube et al just causes it to shut down. I now permanently have a battery pack connected to it at all times. But even after all this, the gives good standby time. Notably the device stand for 3+hrs on 3% battery.
Still my phone is in a pathetic condition. ?
Edit - I just got a new battery (aftermarket brand though) and the ghost touches along with sudden shutdown has gone. Also the OG battery was never touching the connectors properly or the battery placement design was not proper, cause the new aftermarket battery was not connected to the connectors properly.
Peace ?
i also got this problem on my sm-g360HU , try chaging different roms and buying a new battery pack, but still this sudden drain battery still exist, it seems like it's the hardware problem already.
Hi,
So I've been using an app called Battery Charge Limit from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit) to limit my battery charging upto 80% using root access. This was to increase the longevity of the battery.
Worked fine on Oreo, but now for some reason it doesn't seem to stop the battery charging at 80% on Pie. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue and has found a fix/workaround?
I know its probably better just to ask the app developers, but I was just wondering if anyone else is having this issue as I also have access to an S7 Edge on OneUI Pie and it doesn't seem to have any issues.
Thanks
DBZLegend9000 said:
Hi,
So I've been using an app called Battery Charge Limit from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit) to limit my battery charging upto 80% using root access. This was to increase the longevity of the battery.
Worked fine on Oreo, but now for some reason it doesn't seem to stop the battery charging at 80% on Pie. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue and has found a fix/workaround?
I know its probably better just to ask the app developers, but I was just wondering if anyone else is having this issue as I also have access to an S7 Edge on OneUI Pie and it doesn't seem to have any issues.
Thanks
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The xda thread for it is here: https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/to...2&share_fid=3793&share_type=t&link_source=app
Sent from my LG-US998 using Tapatalk
DBZLegend9000 said:
Hi,
So I've been using an app called Battery Charge Limit from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit) to limit my battery charging upto 80% using root access. This was to increase the longevity of the battery.
Worked fine on Oreo, but now for some reason it doesn't seem to stop the battery charging at 80% on Pie. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue and has found a fix/workaround?
I know its probably better just to ask the app developers, but I was just wondering if anyone else is having this issue as I also have access to an S7 Edge on OneUI Pie and it doesn't seem to have any issues.
Thanks
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I do not see any sense in such charging settings, the V30 with 100% notification is still charging for 30 minutes with low current and then only reaches a physical 100% battery which is to save the battery. As the program disconnects charging at 80% it will be physical about 70% = 2/3 for battery use. You probably don't discharge the battery less than 30% because you will "damage it". Then use 1/3 charging it 3 times at the same time as I do ... So think about whether after these 4 years you won't have a more dead battery than I, kids, I charge 15> 100%.
Yes, the answer is simple, charge up to 100% and disconnect immediately, just like LG limits charging to physical 95% so that the battery does not lose capacity.
marcinb24 said:
I do not see any sense in such charging settings, the V30 with 100% notification is still charging for 30 minutes with low current and then only reaches a physical 100% battery which is to save the battery. As the program disconnects charging at 80% it will be physical about 70% = 2/3 for battery use. You probably don't discharge the battery less than 30% because you will "damage it". Then use 1/3 charging it 3 times at the same time as I do ... So think about whether after these 4 years you won't have a more dead battery than I, kids, I charge 15> 100%.
Yes, the answer is simple, charge up to 100% and disconnect immediately, just like LG limits charging to physical 95% so that the battery does not lose capacity.
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Fair enough. I simply limit it to 80% as from what I understand the majority of battery wear happens between 80-100%, even if it is charging at a much lower voltage and current.
Even if the phone doesn't show the true values of physical charge, a physical 70% charge is enough to get me through the day and I don't worry too much about how much battery I drain so only put the phone back to charge when it's at ~5%. So only charge the phone once a day.
Even if it may/may not make a difference to longevity it's worth a shot. At best it'll improve the lifespan of the battery, at worst it'll do nothing with normal degradation.
Maybe in a year or so when 80% charge can't get me through the day I might drop the limit. For now it seems worth a try.
DBZLegend9000 said:
Fair enough. I simply limit it to 80% as from what I understand the majority of battery wear happens between 80-100%, even if it is charging at a much lower voltage and current.
Even if the phone doesn't show the true values of physical charge, a physical 70% charge is enough to get me through the day and I don't worry too much about how much battery I drain so only put the phone back to charge when it's at ~5%. So only charge the phone once a day.
Even if it may/may not make a difference to longevity it's worth a shot. At best it'll improve the lifespan of the battery, at worst it'll do nothing with normal degradation.
Maybe in a year or so when 80% charge can't get me through the day I might drop the limit. For now it seems worth a try.
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Just for your information, deep discharges are also not very good for Lion batteries. Discharging to 5% regularly is as bad, if not worse, than charging to 100%. The optimal is to always keep the battery level between 40%-80%.
I am not so sure if that will make any visible real world difference since most people don't tend to keep their phones for too long. And since that limits the effective battery capacity too much, I would suggest that you don't worry too much about charging/discharging too much.
DBZLegend9000 said:
Hi,
So I've been using an app called Battery Charge Limit from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit) to limit my battery charging upto 80% using root access. This was to increase the longevity of the battery.
Worked fine on Oreo, but now for some reason it doesn't seem to stop the battery charging at 80% on Pie. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue and has found a fix/workaround?
I know its probably better just to ask the app developers, but I was just wondering if anyone else is having this issue as I also have access to an S7 Edge on OneUI Pie and it doesn't seem to have any issues.
Thanks
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To answer your original question, the same feature works as intended on a different app (AccuBattery) on my phone, stock unrooted open EU H93030b. So it looks like your problem is not the OS but the app.
PIntus_aleborn said:
Just for your information, deep discharges are also not very good for Lion batteries. Discharging to 5% regularly is as bad, if not worse, than charging to 100%. The optimal is to always keep the battery level between 40%-80%.
I am not so sure if that will make any visible real world difference since most people don't tend to keep their phones for too long. And since that limits the effective battery capacity too much, I would suggest that you don't worry too much about charging/discharging too much.
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Yeah I am aware that discharging to 5% can be just as bad for the battery. But even if I charged to 100% I would still use the phone till there was only 5% left. So I just thought might as well try to limit the charging and see if it makes a difference on the long run, since 80% gets me through a the day anyway.
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To answer your original question, the same feature works as intended on a different app (AccuBattery) on my phone, stock unrooted open EU H93030b. So it looks like your problem is not the OS but the app.
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Thanks for your help! I did try out Accubattery and yes it detects when the battery is at 80%. Just wish it could set limits with root access as well.
In any case, I seem to have found a solution now. There's a Magisk module called Advanced Charging Control (ACC). This seems to work well and limits charging to 80%. It also has a companion app that you can use to set your own preferences and limits.
I've linked the relevant thread below, might be useful to others.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-magic-charging-switch-cs-v2017-9-t3668427/amp/
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Yeah I am aware that discharging to 5% can be just as bad for the battery. But even if I charged to 100% I would still use the phone till there was only 5% left. So I just thought might as well try to limit the charging and see if it makes a difference on the long run, since 80% gets me through a the day anyway.
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Your doing more worse then good letting the phone go to 5%. That app will not do ANYTHING for you.
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I find ACC works well at stopping the chargeing at a certain % level.
Hoiwever then while still connected to usb it draws power from the battery - not good.
Battery charge Limit on Oreo stoped charging and used then power from usbb onwards while still connected.
I wonder how ACC stops the charging on Pie, i.e. with what control file. Has anyone got an idea?
I foudn out that the switch is /sys/devices/platform/lge-unified-nodes/charging_enabled. This starts/stops the chargi8ng.
Unfortunately, on Pie, when this is set to disabled from then on power ist not drawn from the charger but from the battery.
Is there any other switch / wax to prevent this?
Ich want charging to be stopped and from then on power to be taken from the charger while connected to it.
Here are the paths to the CTRL files that I've found to work with the two ROMs that I've used recently:
Havoc-OS wired and wireless: /sys/devices/platform/lge-unified-nodes/charging_enable (no 'd' on the end, unlike what bladecgn gave)
Lineage OS wired: /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled
Lineage OS wireless: /sys/class/power_supply/dc-wireless/charging_enabled
One quirk that I've noticed is that, on wireless, the app ignores the "Recharge below" setting and starts recharging as soon as the percentage drops just 1% below the max (ex. if the max is 80% and the charge drops to 79%, it'll immediately recharge back to 80%, even if "Recharge below" is set at 76%).
For the record, the ROM that I'm using is LineageOS 17.1, so the app definitely still works on Android 10.
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I foudn out that the switch is /sys/devices/platform/lge-unified-nodes/charging_enabled. This starts/stops the chargi8ng.
Unfortunately, on Pie, when this is set to disabled from then on power ist not drawn from the charger but from the battery.
Is there any other switch / wax to prevent this?
Ich want charging to be stopped and from then on power to be taken from the charger while connected to it.
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Were you able to figure out how to use only power from the charger instead of the battery, @bladecgn?
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Here are the paths to the CTRL files that I've found to work with the two ROMs that I've used recently:
Havoc-OS wired and wireless: /sys/devices/platform/lge-unified-nodes/charging_enable (no 'd' on the end, unlike what bladecgn gave)
Lineage OS wired: /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled
Lineage OS wireless: /sys/class/power_supply/dc-wireless/charging_enabled
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Stock Pie doesn't have the /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled file, but it does have /sys/class/power_supply/battery/battery_charging_enabled. Would that work?
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Stock Pie doesn't have the /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled file, but it does have /sys/class/power_supply/battery/battery_charging_enabled. Would that work?
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I don't know. You'll just have to try. It's a process of trial and error to find which path works with which ROMs.
Early adapter, shifted from samsung and Miui is dumpster fire.
Annoying bugs:
1) Aux/Handsfree doesn't provides full volume untill you lock and unlock your phone, music stops, you play again, music gets higher volume
*UPDATE: Turning screen on and off doesn't work. It now works when you do or receive a voice call over network while plugging in the headphone jack.*
2) It just keeps killing apps. Turned off battery saver, Manually set up every app not to be optimized. Turned off miui optimization (tried turning it on) no luck.
*Update: it still is aggressive but updates have made it a little better, still sucks tho*
3) Chrome and other browser simply do not care, they just kill your page. Go to another link for one sec, come back, page reloads.
*Update: Somewhat better*
4) when you search something in any browser, and tried editing it on the second attempt, cursor simply doesn't show
*Update: Solved*
5) Whatsapp notifications show previous messages instead of current message received, have to open notifications center to see who texted
6) Can't change keyboard layout and size, tried third party, it simply doesn't work
7) Navigation gestures are a disaster, phone lags horribly, stutters in every app, pip goes wild, apps overlap, hot mess. E.g maps just doesn't do pip with gestures
8) well, pip is very buggy, glitches 4 out of 10 times, any app. Dual screen mode buggy, apps weird out when try to resize them, even supported apps
*Update: Floating windows works fine. Pip is better, not flawless but much much better*
9) You can't change navigation button style unless changing whole phones theme from the app. Try 3rd party, it just overlaps over current one
10) biggest annoyance, No second space. I used secure folder a lot, it just doesn't have one, tried everything, googling, no answers.
*Update: Its hidden, it's definitely triggerable by activity launcher but xiaomi has hidden it from the settings which is stupidly weird?*
11) Doesn't hides punch hole in landscape, tried everything, 3rd party apps, magisk, it simply doesn't care
12) Having no sensor for turning off screen while on call, it shows, IT REALLY SHOWS. When you're on a call, a simple hand gesture would turn off your screen and it would not turn it on untill you swing your phone
13) Auto brightness is a joke, its hit and miss. 7/10 times have to adjust myself
14) Phone vibrates on full volume, plastic body shows but sound is more than decent, no distortions
14) Doesn't charges the phone while gaming, but lags the games like crazy you simply can't charge and play with the original charger, 10w charger works fine. No option to disable fast charging
15) Baked ads in every system app, Replace every system app, i repeat replace every system. E.g music, file manager, gallery
16) Disable scanning while installing apps, it sometimes unlocks the phone by itself and display over anything you're doing
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17) Phones doesn't triggers screen to turn on when someone calls, when battery saver is turned on. You have to unlock the phone, open notifications and than click on the call notification and than pick up.
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Apart from these bugs, phone works great for its price. Kindly mention if anything can be done for these. Will keep updating with solutions and more bugs (hope not)
For 15) you can disable ads, although you have to do it for each app separately (the setting is usually called "recommendations")
bomberb17 said:
For 15) you can disable ads, although you have to do it for each app separately (the setting is usually called "recommendations")
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Did that but it resets everytime my phone updates. I just replaced it, changed default apps by default app
10) Second space option available from Activity Launcher app.
You -shouldn't- charge while using. Most smartphone power controllers behave like that by design.
Think of it as character rather than bugs
blackhawk said:
You -shouldn't- charge while using. Most smartphone power controllers behave like that by design.
Think of it as character rather than bugs
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Well why shouldn't you? Everyone s usage differs, my works like that. Used samsung devices for years, never had the issue to charge and use? It actually charged at the same rate on heavy use as it charges while not using the phone.
This phone? Oh my, it goes crazy slow and doesn't charge at all on 33w but does fine on 10w charger
OrianPledge said:
Well why shouldn't you? Everyone s usage differs, my works like that. Used samsung devices for years, never had the issue to charge and use? It actually charged at the same rate on heavy use as it charges while not using the phone.
This phone? Oh my, it goes crazy slow and doesn't charge at all on 33w but does fine on 10w charger
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It skews the charge curve. It will charge little and drives up the battery temp needlessly.
10 watts is nothing... it supports fast charging, right? Use the right brick and cable.
A damaged Li will fast charge erratically or not at all.
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10) Second space option available from Activity Launcher app.
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Thank you!!! Works but switch button keeps disappearing from the home page, have to find a work around.
Curious, why they haven't included it in the system settings?
blackhawk said:
It skews the charge curve. It will charge little and drives up the battery temp needlessly.
10 watts is nothing... it supports fast charging, right? Use the right brick and cable.
A damaged Li will fast charge erratically or not at all.
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Thank you, I'll try to use the original brick but 10w is a life saver when I need to use my phone at the same time. I'm not planning to prolong the phones life anyway.
It's not much of a difference if we really look into it, 0-50 33w is faster but after 50%, both bricks perform marginally same
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Thank you, I'll try to use the original brick but 10w is a life saver when I need to use my phone at the same time. I'm not planning to prolong the phones life anyway.
It's not much of a difference if we really look into it, 0-50 33w is faster but after 50%, both bricks perform marginally same
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I've noticed the battery performance/life drops faster when using the device like that so I avoid it.
Odd that faster charging disengages at 50%.
Keep an eye open for signs of battery swelling, replace it asap if you spot that. You don't need an event to occur.
blackhawk said:
I've noticed the battery performance/life drops faster when using the device like that so I avoid it.
Odd that faster charging disengages at 50%.
Keep an eye open for signs of battery swelling, replace it asap if you spot that. You don't need an event to occur.
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Its a brand new phone, I really doubt that the battery is swole. I never really experienced battery losing life on newer phones which is drastically noticeable, over time, battery loses health anyways, whats more 5%.
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Its a brand new phone, I really doubt that the battery is swole. I never really experienced battery losing life on newer phones which is drastically noticeable, over time, battery loses health anyways, whats more 5%.
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Li batteries can fail at any time. It's rare for events to happen but lower level failures are common.
I just replaced one that failed on my Note 10+, fortunately its swelling didn't damage the display.