Question More Zoom? - Google Pixel 6

The Pixel 6 only gets 2x digital zoom with it's main sensor whereas the Pixel 6 Pro will zoom until 4x or even 8x digital zoom before switching to the telephoto sensor. Is there any way to bring more digital zoom to the regular 6?

The P6P zooms 0.67x to 20x on the side with 3 sensors, 0.85x to 10x on the screen side.
While I'm not running the google image (google free AOSP here), I recall the camera application had some buttons to quickly switch between resolutions. 0.7x to the wide lens (middle position), 1.0x and 2.0x to the main lens (side opposite flash), 4.0x to the telephoto lens.
I don't remember this exactly, but people are saying that the screen side camera has quick zoom buttons showing 0.7x and 1.0x, even though it is 0.85x per the HAL (on the P6P), therefore it looks like Google is mucking with the values being presented to the users. Probably because they think it looks better to have the wide ratio match and a whole number for the sensor switch.
In reality, it switches to the telephoto lens at 4.3x. BUT, it can ride the main sensor all the way to 20x if the proximity sensor reading is "near"-ish.
It picks the sensor based on a combination of proximity and zoom level, and maybe even other factors that are not yet apparent.
Anyway, the quick buttons shouldn't be thought of as the ONLY zoom levels that are reachable. As far as I understand it, even the P6 (non-P) should be able to get the high digital zoom levels. I'd suggest you try to use the pinch gesture to zoom out and see how far it lets you go.

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Questions about OIS and EIS [solved]

Hello Everyone
How do you enable and or tell of OIS and EIS are enabled?
When I go into the settings for the stock camera app there is a toggle switch labeld "video stabilization" in the "common" section but it is set to off and grayed out. Note this is when using the rear camera. If I switch to the front camera this toggle switch is now no longer grayed out and is set to on.
Thank You
I think it depends on the resolution, try lowering resolution and see. The way EIS works, it needs extra pixels around visible frame, to shift whole recorded frame, so object stays in the same spot on frame even if the lens points differently due to shake. Either there is not enough extra pixels to compensate, or not enough CPU power to calculate the frame shift, not sure which, so not available in certain modes.
Solution
It would seem that one cannot have both video stabilization and tracking AF enabled. Once I turned off tracking AF the video stabilization toggle was no longer grayed out.

Mate 10 PRO 20mp vs 12mp

Does anyone knows if when we use the 12mp configuration on monochrome ... the phone actually uses the 20mp monochrome sensor?
ive been looking to read some tech specification about the mate 10 pro camera configuration, but i dindt find any.
I can use 20mp sensor in color mode but loose the zoom ...
I think monochrome mode will always use the upper monochrome camera. For any other mode, the lower color camera will be used. For AI or standard mode, both cameras will be used to properly recognise objects.

P30 pro features/issues people don't talk about much

Hi there,
I wanted to start a discussion about stuff that we like/dislike about this phone, but not the obvious stuff - rather things that are not much talked about. When I read about this phone, most popular topics are about fingerprint sensor, screen resolution, 50x zoom, night mode...
So first, things I don't like:
1. Aspect ratio issues:
- No 16:9 photos aspect ratio.
- Screen 19.5:9 aspect ratio can cause issues in games/applications that only support 16:9 aspect ratio. It's not a huge issue, because most apps support wide screen. It's also the same for other wide screen phones.
- Screen mirroring to TV - because of 19.5:9 aspect ratio, there are black bars on top and bottom, so when you are viewing 4:3 photos on 16:9 TV, the photo is very small and shown only in the center of TV with black bars around it. I don't know how other wide screen phones work, but I guess the same way.
2. Camera:
- There is no way to force the camera app to use the optical 5x zoom in photo mode/videos when the light is low. For me it was a huge issue when I was recording a concert and the camera was jumping constantly between 5x optical and digital zooms. Digital had more view on scene where the light was good, so it jumped to optical lens, optical view is out of sync so bigger part of view was on the dark crowd and it jumped back to optical again. There was no way to record it with zoom.
- How different lenses view is synced - widescreen and normal 1x are in sync when changing between them, you get basically the picture in the same position, but 5x optical and normal are just so much out of sync, that it is very very visible how it switches when you go from 4.9x to 5x. Not a huge issue, but it could be better.
- There is no level indicator in other modes than pro.
3. Speaker:
- The quality is OK at most, when compared to Samsung for example (Samsung S10 has amazing speakers), but it's a phone after all, so I don't expect much anyway.
Now things I like:
1. Huawei Share. My god, this thing is amazing. You can just connect your PC to your phone with WiFi and browse files normally as if it was connected with a usb cable! That is truly amazing. I didn't have it in Xiaomi, newest Samsung phones also don't have it. Why nobody talks about this amazing feature?
2. Camera app:
- Amazing zoom possibilities, 5x zoom which I'm using constantly during my trips and I don't know how people can say they don't use it much. There is something called perspective and this photo shows what I'm talking about. You can get especially amazing pictures when you have mountains in the background. So much discussed 50x zoom is not really usable, but 20x still has amazing quality.
- All different modes, especially the light painting/silky water is nice. Also the pro mode with so many different settings and 30 seconds shutter time. There are much more modes and possibilities than most youtube reviewers show us. They usually just show night mode, 5x zoom, 50x zoom and that's it. Like that's just 10% of options in that app! When you really start knowing the app, it is just much better than Samsung or Xiaomi camera apps. You can shoot much better pictures when you know what you are doing.
3. EMUI:
- I really like this system, the icons, design, features, it's really nice. I don't know how anyone can 'hate' this system? I came to EMUI from Xiaomi and Samsung phones and for me it's just better.
Huawei P30 Pro is my first Huawei phone and I must say I'm really impressed by the price/quality ratio. What are your thoughts?
Point 2: tray to rec videos with opencam or edgecam. You can choose 1x camera and zoom in or you can choose 5x camera. No changes between they.
"2. Camera:
- There is no way to force the camera app to use the optical 5x zoom in photo mode/videos when the light is low. For me it was a huge issue when I was recording a concert and the camera was jumping constantly between 5x optical and digital zooms. Digital had more view on scene where the light was good, so it jumped to optical lens, optical view is out of sync so bigger part of view was on the dark crowd and it jumped back to optical again. There was no way to record it with zoom."
this to me is a huge issue...as i was trying to photo one of our dogs in evening time and it would only zoom via digital.....every now and then it would flicker to ultra clear optical but not for long enough to get a shot.
no workaround at all for it ?...i see no mention of it in google searches.
i can imagine being in the same situation as you recording a gig and that would be troublesome.
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To always photograph at 5x optical use the professional mode.
dougm1970 said:
"2. Camera:
- There is no way to force the camera app to use the optical 5x zoom in photo mode/videos when the light is low.
no workaround at all for it ?...i see no mention of it in google searches.
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Open Camera allows you to cycle through the lenses.
ID 0 is normal mode with multi-lenses
ID 1 is front camera
ID 2 is main lens
ID 3 is wide angle lens
ID 4 is zoom
Neo Cortex said:
Open Camera allows you to cycle through the lenses.
ID 0 is normal mode with multi-lenses
ID 1 is front camera
ID 2 is main lens
ID 3 is wide angle lens
ID 4 is zoom
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thanks.
i don't see the option to do this.
i should add a disclaimer though...i'm an idiot.
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dougm1970 said:
thanks.
i don't see the option to do this.
i should add a disclaimer though...i'm an idiot.
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You just tap the icon to switch to the selfie camera and when you tap it again it takes you to the next lens. I discovered it by accident
HDJ80 said:
To always photograph at 5x optical use the professional mode.
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Yes, for photo it works, but then you get no AI... Also normal photo AI handles the 5x zoom when light is low better than pro, I guess it takes digital zoom which is bright and merges it with optical which is dark
As for the video, I tried the open camera, but from what I can see, it only allows to switch between normal 1x and 5x zoom, but when you zoom to 5x it works the same as huawei built in cam app... So it switches to digital and back to optical all the time.
Edgecam also allows you to use all the lenses
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With edgecam or opencam you can choose the lense.
If you choose 1x lense an make zoom is only digital zoom.
For 5x optical zoom you must change to 5x lense.
Pivoo said:
Yes, for photo it works, but then you get no AI... Also normal photo AI handles the 5x zoom when light is low better than pro, I guess it takes digital zoom which is bright and merges it with optical which is dark
As for the video, I tried the open camera, but from what I can see, it only allows to switch between normal 1x and 5x zoom, but when you zoom to 5x it works the same as huawei built in cam app... So it switches to digital and back to optical all the time.
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Mine stays on optical all the time in video.
Yes pictures are generally better with AI but OC enables you to stay with optical even when light is low.
Issue :ghost notifications.
By ghost notifications i mean there is a sound and vibration but nothing else. Now I am pretty used to them, but from day one and after a couple of updates, they are still present. I have disable notifications from almost all apps except messaging ones, but ghost notifications keep going! Even during night with flight mode on. ?
HDJ80 said:
Edgecam also allows you to use all the lenses
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Where do I find Edgecam? It's not in the UK Play Store as far as I can see.
Sorry, hedgecam 2.
Maybe I'm missing something as I am very new to this phone. I have set my phone to lock after 2 minutes but whenever it locks, it makes a click type sound which I find very distracting. I wish I could turn that off.
n-j-f said:
Maybe I'm missing something as I am very new to this phone. I have set my phone to lock after 2 minutes but whenever it locks, it makes a click type sound which I find very distracting. I wish I could turn that off.
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Actually you can turn it off.
Go to Settings ---> Sounds (or Tones) then pick the last entry and deactivate Lockscreen sound.
I don't know how it looks in english, as my native language is German
n-j-f said:
Maybe I'm missing something as I am very new to this phone. I have set my phone to lock after 2 minutes but whenever it locks, it makes a click type sound which I find very distracting. I wish I could turn that off.
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Go to sound > more sound settings > screen lock. Disable it and there u go.

Camera on Huawei P30 Lite 48MP version

Hi,
I never used a smartphone with two or three camera before and my choice for a new smartphone was the P30 lite 48MP version.
I have some question about the camera.
First, I hate the portrait mode effect on the front camera. The seperation between the face and the background is not pleasant to my eyes. How do you actually disable this mode. Should I shoot in photo and also disable AI? The AI is also doing the same effect as the portrait mode. With other apps, there is no bokeh or blur effect.
Secondly, How does the first (Back) camera sensor works? I mean, I tried to put my finger in front of the camera and take several picture in different mode. Everytime, I get a picture without my finger. If you are shooting in normal condition, shouldn't it be using the main camera?
Thanks
Reply by Huawei Service
Someone from Huawei Service replied to my question today and I quote
"Hi! Thank you for supporting Huawei Products, we understand your situation right now. We highly recommend for you to switch to photo mode and turn off the AI mode as you take your selfies to have no bokeh or blur effect on the background. On your second question, Please be informed that the first camera sensor is the 2MP Bokeh Lens. It is used to have an effect of a soft out-of-focus background that you get when shooting a subject. These are functioning as you use portrait mode and as you use the Pro Mode and adjust the manual focus for your subjects. Thank you and have a great day."

Question video stabilization (OIS)

noticed that there is no optical stabilization in the stock camera application in any video shooting mode. After that, I launched the Google camera, where the module moves as expected. In photo mode, the camera moves.The question is just for me or is it such a stabilization system, I read somewhere that the optics walk a little bit, but I did not notice any movements.
BREALLU said:
noticed that there is no optical stabilization in the stock camera application in any video shooting mode. After that, I launched the Google camera, where the module moves as expected. In photo mode, the camera moves.The question is just for me or is it such a stabilization system, I read somewhere that the optics walk a little bit, but I did not notice any movements.
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One Plus 9R does support OIS(Optical Image Stabilization) and it is available only for the main camera.
OIS is a physical thing you cannot disable. It's built into the camera itself. So it "works" in every app. There is digital image stabilization that some phones use, but it will never be as good as OIS. Some phones, like the iPhone 13 Pro Max (maybe 12 too), use a "Sensor Shift OIS" technology, an even better OIS.
So in short: Sensor Shift OIS (iPhone) > OIS (optical image stabilization) >>>> digital image stabilization (other phones, software solutions, etc.)

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