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Quick question : is my dash charge charger from my ex One plus 3 will do the job for my xiaomi mi9 ?
It is like this one : https://www.amazon.fr/Chargeur-tabl...rge+oneplus+3&qid=1558015037&s=gateway&sr=8-5
It was extremely fast for the one plus, I wonder if I could damage the battery using it on my MI9
OnePlus Dash Charge : 20W
Xiaomi Mi 9 Boxed charger : 18W
Xiaomi Mi 9 supports QC 4+: 27W
So the charger you get in the box is slightly slower, but you can buy a QC4+ charger for ~25-50€ with 27W.
You could also buy a 20W Qi charger, but if have concerns about damaging your battery this should be your last option imo.
You can charge the Mi9 with the OP Dash Charger and it won't damage your phones. I'm not sure if it actually charges with 20W tho. I also switched from the Oneplus 3 to the Mi9 and when i plug in my dash charger it says "fast charging", but i wouldn't say it is faster then the boxed charger.
orawnnd said:
OnePlus Dash Charge : 20W
Xiaomi Mi 9 Boxed charger : 18W
Xiaomi Mi 9 supports QC 4+: 27W
So the charger you get in the box is slightly slower, but you can buy a QC4+ charger for ~25-50€ with 27W.
You could also buy a 20W Qi charger, but if have concerns about damaging your battery this should be your last option imo.
You can charge the Mi9 with the OP Dash Charger and it won't damage your phones. I'm not sure if it actually charges with 20W tho. I also switched from the Oneplus 3 to the Mi9 and when i plug in my dash charger it says "fast charging", but i wouldn't say it is faster then the boxed charger.
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I just tested, and it charges slower with OP dash charge
I have bought the wireless 20w pad charge , and it charges 1% per 40 sec, the pad plugged with the stock xiaomi charger ( who is 18w )
I would like to try a 27W, have you got a link for a good one ?
Have just tried my old OnePlus dash charger and it's the same as a standard normal non quick charge charger, not as fast as the included 18w charger
Anyone tried the oneplus dash charger with the 20w wireless charging pad? Would it throttle the charging speed?
Anyone tried to put diesel into petrol car? Dash charger and QC is whole different charging concept. Dash charger will work like regular charger(max. [email protected]) on every device except Dash equipped devices.
I am not sure why you're being sarcastic.
If you haven't seen a dash charger, I suggest you go take a look. Even if it works like a regular charger (and I want it to be), its output is 5V/4A.
So my question is whether its output can power the xiaomi 20w wireless pad without throttle. I.e. Full charging capability of the wireless pad.
orawnnd said:
OnePlus Dash Charge : 20W
Xiaomi Mi 9 Boxed charger : 18W
Xiaomi Mi 9 supports QC 4+: 27W
So the charger you get in the box is slightly slower, but you can buy a QC4+ charger for ~25-50€ with 27W.
You could also buy a 20W Qi charger, but if have concerns about damaging your battery this should be your last option imo.
You can charge the Mi9 with the OP Dash Charger and it won't damage your phones. I'm not sure if it actually charges with 20W tho. I also switched from the Oneplus 3 to the Mi9 and when i plug in my dash charger it says "fast charging", but i wouldn't say it is faster then the boxed charger.
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I believe it's not that simple, OnePlus Dash Charge supports 20W charging, BUT that's 5V 4A.
On the other hand, I believe Mi 9 accept max 2A current, so, if you use original OnePlus Dash Charge, it only charges Mi 9 at max 5V 2A = 10W, much slower than use a standard 18W QC 2.0.....
zachwzx said:
I am not sure why you're being sarcastic.
If you haven't seen a dash charger, I suggest you go take a look. Even if it works like a regular charger (and I want it to be), its output is 5V/4A.
So my question is whether its output can power the xiaomi 20w wireless pad without throttle. I.e. Full charging capability of the wireless pad.
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Actually I have 4 Dash Chargers. There are tons of articles, topics here on XDA explaining how Dash Charging works a why it's not working on QC devices at 4Amps. For example:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/accessories/dash-charge-protocol-analysis-t3431917
https://www.guidingtech.com/61180/dash-charging-quick-charge-differences/
Long story short, it delivers 4A only for Dash enabled devices, with Dash cable. To maitain compatiblity with USB standard it can work also as regular 5V/2A charger.
BTW Xiaomi Wirless Pad draw 27W to deliver 20W. Look at the specs, it requires 20V/1,35A input. And you are asking if 5V/4A are enough.
ManuBBXX said:
Hello all
Quick question : is my dash charge charger from my ex One plus 3 will do the job for my xiaomi mi9 ?
It is like this one : https://www.amazon.fr/Chargeur-tabl...rge+oneplus+3&qid=1558015037&s=gateway&sr=8-5
It was extremely fast for the one plus, I wonder if I could damage the battery using it on my MI9
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I recomend you to install aida64 on playstore , go to battery and plug the phone to the chargers.
It will say how much energy is going into the phone.
Try it with both chargers
does anyone tried to charge Mi 9 with this Baseus charger?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32988045731.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.71f43c00TyHdOp
is this charger compatible with 27W xiaomi charging?
I think it's just Quick Charge 3.0. You should buy the 27W charger imo. But i could be wrong
I have it, it does quick charge but not charge turbo
Good I stopped by XDA before purchasing it.
It does say if you scroll down on its specs it's a QC4 charger, but I assumed the described output would be a sum of both USB ports working simultaneously.
Already posted about it some weeks ago.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79530777&postcount=73
It's indeed just a QC 4.0 charger. Will only do 18W.
Hi, I have one. For it to work properly you have to have the cable of more than 30w.
Load much faster than the original that comes in the box. I did a quick test from 75% to 100% with the phone turned off and charged in 25min; so you can assume if it's fast or not.
WTF ; does this phone even do QC4 ... the Xiaomi offical charger is 3.0 and I bought a $68 dollars Belkin QC : 4.0+ offical as per reviews and it caps out at. 3470 : it NEVER has said fast or TURBO and it ofen Ampere reports 1800 mah ? Can anyone explain this in any way
Do you really have to post the same thing in every single charger related topic ?
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Do you really have to post the same thing in every single charger related topic ?
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I couldn't find this :/
hardtheory said:
I have it, it does quick charge but not charge turbo
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Thanks for info dude
I suspect that Turbo Charge only happens with the 27W factory charger.
Because my Hama QC4+ charger, certified by Qualcomm, charges definitely faster than the 18W charger found in the package, but does not say Charge Fast or even Charge Turbo.
twojastara-5 said:
does anyone tried to charge Mi 9 with this Baseus charger?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32988045731.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.71f43c00TyHdOp
is this charger compatible with 27W xiaomi charging?
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Call me crazy but I think it will charge the device at 27W speed.
A lot of people don't seem to realize but the "Xiaomi Turbo Charger 27W" is actually QC3, not QC4+, and it does charge the device at 27W. If you find a QC4+ charger that supports 27W and up, you will still get 27W charging but you won't see "Charge Turbo" because it will use the better, newer charging standard.
This can make charge turbo QC 3.0 and it's cheaper and with more ports:
https://www.banggood.com/AiNaU-3-US...amsung-S8-Letv-Xiaomi6-mi5-mi6-p-1168215.html
lusp00ky said:
This can make charge turbo QC 3.0 and it's cheaper and with more ports:
https://www.banggood.com/AiNaU-3-US...amsung-S8-Letv-Xiaomi6-mi5-mi6-p-1168215.html
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Yeah but it can only charge at standard QC3 speeds, aka 18W at max. 9V/2A like the original one does. But the original one can also do 12V/1.5A. So it does not "Turbo Charge".
Careful many poster here are confused. My BELKIN true QC4.0+ never ever charged over 3200mA and averaged out at under 2200mA. Posters who speak about things without testing their theories are really frustrating. Do yourself a favor don't believe this phone accepts QC4 or QC 4.0+ (at least not @July 2019) only QC 3.0 NON FAKE xiaomi 27w can do the 4600mA + it would seem. Turbo charging is required for extremely rapid charge times. Make sure you get OFFICIAL 20V 1.35A from Xiaomi for Turbo Charge sustained charge and under one hour 0--100%
I also purchased a QC 4.0+ Hama DC charger cause Xiaomi doesn't make a DC charger to my knowledge. Guess what ; 18w ish charging speeds .. no Fast or Turbo classification ...
XIAOMI Hoe do you call this phone a QC 4.0/4.0+ unit !!! Cause look close at the charger Turbo pictures they are all using the "Original QC 3.0 Xiaomi charger that we ALL should have got in the box. Instead many of us have wasted tonnes of money and time buying useless to us QC 4.0+ tech that doesn't work or WORSE fake chargers that don't do more than 18w !! By the time we we have ordered 3-4 different chargers trying to get it to work we have to order it on Ali or gearbest or Gearvita. Cause the company does make them after all!! Enjoy the brutal shipping fees and heavy wait times. Well we order this and that trying to get the darn thing to work. So annoyed right now
Hi, I got the original charger and this if it gives the turbocharged 27w charge, however the baseus charger charges the same as the one that comes in the box or with the wireless charge.
I made this short video: https://youtu.be/nFBoPxORzEg
https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/how-to/mi-9t-pro-30w-charger-experiment-t4003595
read this. Also tested with a mi9 that my fried had. same result.( Turbo charging up to 30W using the baseus charger)
Posted for those who end up here like me and read mixed info
I also have the Baseus charger mentioned above (BS-EU906), the variant with 2 usb A ports.
When I charge with the cable from my samsung galaxy tab S5e it charges with a bit over 4200mA 20w-21w.
But when I charge with my Baseus 2m 5a capable cable (CATSS-B0G), it never goes above 3400mA ~14w.
It still chargers fast, but it is not what was advertised. Both the cable and charger are rated for QC3.
Baseus GaN charger 65W + Baseus 5A cable reaches 5000mA in Ampere, which is assuming 5V (that's what Ampere is assuming), equals to 25W. The fact is voltage in QC is never stable, it's the factor that allows it to dynamically supply power based on various parameters: battery temp, device temp, battery capacity and so on. If you have a USB-C USB doctor (and it should be more accurate than any software based monitoring) you can watch yourself that both the voltage and current are alternating constantly.
Hey, is it safe to use original 45W Samsung charger daily? Got it for nice price ($25) from friend's shop.
I read somewhere it's not recommend to use 45W. Also I read S20+ supports 25W only.
Thank you for answers.
It is safe to use the charger but I am not sure if it will be able to charge it at 25W also.
So if I will use 45W, charging will be the same as with original charger?
Tried it, remaining time to fully charged is showing the same with both chargers.
RenikSK said:
So if I will use 45W, charging will be the same as with original charger?
Tried it, remaining time to fully charged is showing the same with both chargers.
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I have the 45w charger. Charging speed depends on the phone temperature. The phone slows down the charging when phone temperature gets high. It's marginally faster than the one that came with the phone. But it's super fast charging for the first 30 minutes or so compared to our of the box.
So i use the 45w charger at office when I need to charge the phone fast and seldom fully charge it as I would unplug it and go somewhere else.
At home I just plug in the charger that came with the phone for overnight charging. Perhaps not the best to leave it charging overnight but I need a full battery next day.
Even if the charger provides 45w, the phone will only pull what is needed from the charger itself. So if the phone limits itself to 25w, then thats all it will use from the charge available.
Equally, if the charge provided is lower than the maximum the phone can use (i.e. 25w phone but 15w charger), then it will use the maximum from the charge available.
Chargers these days offer a multitude of different voltages and amp ratings, but they are smart and will only send what is requested by the device that is plugged in so there's no chance of accidental over-voltage.
I too have the 45W samsung travel charger and did a comparison on power draw compared to the 25W charger that is included with the phone. I used both the USB C cable that came with the phone (Black) and the thicker cable that came with the 45W charger (White), while measuring the power draw using a power consumption meter that was plugged into the wall between the charger and the outlet. My phone was at 40% charge when I tested. The results are shocking.
Included 25W charger
Phone's Black cable - 27.9 W
Charger's White cable - 27.2 W
Samsung 45W travel charger
Phone's Black cable - 29.7 W
Charger's White cable - 31.3 W
The similar power draw explains the charging speed difference of 10 minutes which many reviewers on youtube have observed. Taking another step, I have read that the S20 Ultra requires the charger to support PPS to achieve (10V, 4.5A) in order to charge at 45W. So why does the 45W travel charger only support (15V, 3A), (20V, 2.25A), (3.3-11V, 4.05A), (3.3-16V, 2.8A) and (3.3-21V, 2.1A)? Even the best case scenario would be to use the (3.3-11V, 4.05A) PPS profile and set it to (10V, 4.05A) to give only 40.5W. I smell a rat.
Interesting. I have also measured power draw but my results are bit diferent.
45W charger was getting up to 41W for 4 mins.
On overall charging speed 0-100% the diference is 10mins, but after charging 20mins I'm getting 54% on 45W and 37% on stock.
17% in 20mins it's a lot of difference.
45W is slowing down up to 1A after that to cool down the phone. 25w have similar behaviour.
Baseus 65W PPS chargers triggers SFC 2.0 but it takes more than 2h to charge fully. Amperage is oscilating as hell.
my Huawei 65w laptop Charger charges my S20U much quicker than the 25w charger i find...
krogoth said:
Interesting. I have also measured power draw but my results are bit diferent.
45W charger was getting up to 41W for 4 mins.
On overall charging speed 0-100% the diference is 10mins, but after charging 20mins I'm getting 54% on 45W and 37% on stock.
17% in 20mins it's a lot of difference.
45W is slowing down up to 1A after that to cool down the phone. 25w have similar behaviour.
Baseus 65W PPS chargers triggers SFC 2.0 but it takes more than 2h to charge fully. Amperage is oscilating as hell.
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I have been continuously testing and found that if your phone has less than 30% battery and the battery temperature is under 33 ºC, it will charge at 40W. After that, it drops to 30W for the remainder of the charge and then drop again to 20W when the battery is above 80%.
Next step is to find a good battery data logging app which logs battery percentage, battery temperature, charging current and time. Surprising to find that not many apps can do this. Even the Battery Charging Monitor app doesn't log all that data.
I need to buy a new phone mount for my car, so might as well get it with qi charging. Does anyone have a qi car charger they are liking for their Pixel 6?
I just ordered a cheap 15w from eBay which is magsafe suitable. I'll post more infos when it arrives.
dirtyissa62 said:
I just ordered a cheap 15w from eBay which is magsafe suitable. I'll post more infos when it arrives.
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link?
ctakah27 said:
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But It will arrive next week
Just got one of these
Auckly Wireless Car Charger, [Electromagnetic Sense] Qi 15W Fast in Car Wireless Charger Automatic Sensor Phone Holder Vent Mount Compatible for S20/S10,for iPhone 12 13 Pro Max Mini 11 Pro XS/XR etc: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Auckly Wireless Car Charger, [Electromagnetic Sense] Qi 15W Fast in Car Wireless Charger Automatic Sensor Phone Holder Vent Mount Compatible for S20/S10,for iPhone 12 13 Pro Max Mini 11 Pro XS/XR etc: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
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Seems to work well so long as you use a QC 3.0 adaptor in the car to power it. Then it charges at around 2A. Works through the case I have and doesn't require a 'magsafe ring/adaptor' stuck to the case to make it stick. The motorized clamp is cool, though the novelty will no doubt wear off soon enough.
I noticed most suggested QC 3 charger so I bought one plug in for my car and replaced my cigarette lighter in the truck with a dedicated USB. What a difference charging. Now I just need to settle on a wireless mount.
Yes, annoying to have to buy a QC3.0 plug when the world is moving to PD
The Pixel 6 uses PPS for the fastest speeds (which is a subset of PD 3.0). So while QS will still charge your phone faster than a standard charger, it is not the standard needed for the fastest charging on this phone.
Anyone looking to purchase a new wired charger for the Pixel 6 series should look for one that has "PPS support" and at least 30 watts of charging power. If you are looking for wireless charging, look for a Qi charger with at least 23 watts of charging power. Anything else is going to provide slower charging speeds.
Edit - I should note that apparently not all PPS chargers are working at max charging speed on the P6 either (even those with 30w or more of power). To be 100% sure your charger will be at max speed, you probably want to buy the Google brand one. Of course this is exactly why Google has made the charger an issue in the first place - to sell their version.
Anyone try these with wired Android Auto? Wondering if that works.
sic0048 said:
The Pixel 6 uses PPS for the fastest speeds (which is a subset of PD 3.0). So while QS will still charge your phone faster than a standard charger, it is not the standard needed for the fastest charging on this phone.
Anyone looking to purchase a new wired charger for the Pixel 6 series should look for one that has "PPS support" and at least 30 watts of charging power. If you are looking for wireless charging, look for a Qi charger with at least 23 watts of charging power. Anything else is going to provide slower charging speeds.
Edit - I should note that apparently not all PPS chargers are working at max charging speed on the P6 either (even those with 30w or more of power). To be 100% sure your charger will be at max speed, you probably want to buy the Google brand one. Of course this is exactly why Google has made the charger an issue in the first place - to sell their version.
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Not a fan of fast charging myself - just reliable (wireless) charging But certainly I would only recommend a QC 3.0 device to enable a Qi charger to charge reliably where PD was not an option for it. The Qi charger I referenced does work using a conventional 2.4A 5V car adaptor, but the battery % stays the same (it doesn't go up or discharge) so it's only offsetting the discharge rate of the phone.
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Yes, annoying to have to buy a QC3.0 plug when the world is moving to PD
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Fortunately I was sure to buy chargers that had 1 PD and 1 standard to keep options open.
I use a Course Mount which is car specific.
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sic0048 said:
The Pixel 6 uses PPS for the fastest speeds (which is a subset of PD 3.0). So while QS will still charge your phone faster than a standard charger, it is not the standard needed for the fastest charging on this phone.
Anyone looking to purchase a new wired charger for the Pixel 6 series should look for one that has "PPS support" and at least 30 watts of charging power. If you are looking for wireless charging, look for a Qi charger with at least 23 watts of charging power. Anything else is going to provide slower charging speeds.
Edit - I should note that apparently not all PPS chargers are working at max charging speed on the P6 either (even those with 30w or more of power). To be 100% sure your charger will be at max speed, you probably want to buy the Google brand one. Of course this is exactly why Google has made the charger an issue in the first place - to sell their version.
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Not even the Google 30w charger puts out the full 30w. There's an article on Android authority.
Tidbits said:
I use a Course Mount which is car specific.
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That's a nice little unit. I do like vehicle specific designs.
I got a magsafe compatible wireless charger with a QC 3.0 adapter.
On first test with an approx 30 min drive and gps I lost 2% battery and phone was hot.
Second test with gps and approx same drive i gained 2% battery and phone was warm.
Last try and with screen off/no gps, I gained 20% battery and phone felt normal.
I was wondering if a wireless charger with a fan would work better but for now will just plug in if i want to use gps.
There are many charges out there and also many topics proves that Google Pixel 6 does not charge faster despite 30W fast chargers. I have two questions.
1. Can I go for anker 25w charger or 20w is sufficient. Also the third party chargers are good for battery health in long run.
2. My car charger I use currently for my Pixel 4 XL is 3amp. Again here, can I continue using it if it does not harm the battery health in a long run.
Posting the link below for anker 25w charger if it's good enough.
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I bought massive 65W ugreen charger so that i can also use it for my laptop. Btw cable from pixel 6 works also with the laptop so is good quality. Using that charger with 35% battery when charging started i see charging current of around 4300 mAh which at 5V means around 22W maximum consumption. Any charger of 20W or higher should work great if it supports power delivery of course.
You can use any USB-C Power Delivery and/or PPS charger. I'm not sure what the Pixel 6 max charging rate is, the phone should negotiate the fastest rate the charger can handle.
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There are many charges out there and also many topics proves that Google Pixel 6 does not charge faster despite 30W fast chargers. I have two questions.
1. Can I go for anker 25w charger or 20w is sufficient. Also the third party chargers are good for battery health in long run.
2. My car charger I use currently for my Pixel 4 XL is 3amp. Again here, can I continue using it if it does not harm the battery health in a long run.
Posting the link below for anker 25w charger if it's good enough.
Amazon.com
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I have the Anker Nano II 30W charger. It has all the PPS modes. Works great. According to FKM, a charge from 65-75% averaged around 27.7w. Haven't tested any further than that yet, though.
Actually I'm unable to get 30 w PPS chargers locally. So can I go with the below if it is safe for battery health and also does the job with intelligence of pps.
Belkin BoostCharge 25W Wall Chargers with PPS USB C Power Delivery
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