The day 1 when I charged my google pixel 6, I had my heart stopped because while going to sleep I connected the charger and when I woke up the battery went down from 44% to 33% showing "connected, not charging" I thought this is it.
But then through out the whole day I was going through tonnes of videos and posts which confirmed one thing for sure that Google Pixel 6 doesn't go more than 22W on PPS charger. Finally fingers crossed I was going to spend on Anker 65W but then came across Belkin 25W Boost Wall Charger with PPS. My goodness the charger does what it does, charges 50% in 30 minutes and remaining reaching slowly in another 45 minutes which is enough and sounds safe to me.
I am posting this because many look around the internet for solutions like me, if I can contribute a little.
Amazon.com
It's very ironic. I was initially going to buy the official Google charger for the 30W despite already having a 20W one. I just bought another 20W charger in the Anker Nano one which also serves me perfectly fine as 20W is good enough; don't need the extra 2-3W ^^
Ayyyy! Snagged one too! It was half off bringing it down to $10!
For those in the UK the Belkin 25W Boost Wall Charger is currently reduced to £12.99 on Amazon.
Received the charger and it is as advertised. It peaked at around 25W and then settled at around 22.5W. Something to note is that the longer Anker cable I used to use drops it down to around 8.7W so the cable matters a lot.
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This is what I have
https://a.aliexpress.com/_vSk1m8
33w pps and small it should be dropping againnfor black Friday.
Dropped to 4 quid in the 11.11 sale bf drops to 6
That belkin one decent tho
I bought the original Google charger 30w.Peek is 22 too.
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
eloko said:
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
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Did it charge at the same rate all the way to 100%?
utnick said:
Did it charge at the same rate all the way to 100%?
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It did. 2900+ ma constant.
It's a power supply for a xfinity box. They are not even expensive, like 15 bucks.
I was reading about chargers and power supply which the power supply is always the same but chargers have temperature sensors? Maybe was about something else....
I may be mistaken
eloko said:
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
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Constant 3A means nothing. You're maxing out at 15W since it's not PPS. Higher current is not a good indicator.
Testing random power bricks is pointless unless you know it supports PPS.
A PPS charger can fluctuate between 1-4 amps and have a constantly adjusting voltage to maximize power output.
With a Baseus gan 2 65w charger I constantly see more than 20w charging except the percentage is high. I think this one has pd3 which supports PPS.
Do not trust Franco readings. Get an inline meter if you need absolute certainty.
You could very well be hitting those speeds since the charger looks to be compatible.
LLStarks said:
Constant 3A means nothing. You're maxing out at 15W since it's not PPS. Higher current is not a good indicator.
Testing random power bricks is pointless unless you know it supports PPS.
A PPS charger can fluctuate between 1-4 amps and have a constantly adjusting voltage to maximize power output.
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Understood.
Still, it got from 0 to 65% in like 40 minutes then I disconnected because I had to leave.. As soon as I receive mine, I'll do some stats and post them here.
I thought PPS chargers have a 3a max and is not constant, it goes up and down, depending on the battery itself.
The more amps that pulls, the faster it charges... Or am I wrong?
It's not correct. Power is current multiplied by voltage.
3A at 1V is only 3W. PD is usually 5V or 9V.
Google's can do 1.5A at 20V to reach 30W for supported devices.
For me, the more amps that pull the faster it charges... Voltage don't mean anything.
Voltage have great effect. Power is electrical current (amperes) multiplied by voltage (volts). For example 1 ampere at 5 volts is just 5 watts but same 1 ampere at 20 volts is 20 watts which is much higher. Different charging technologies have different approaches to send maximum power from charger to the phone but generally most use higher voltage to transfer power above 10 W because most usb cables do not support more than 2 to 3 A of current. Before charging the battery itself phone converts back the high voltage to low voltage suitable for the battery (usually between 3.5 and 4 volts). If you are looking at software programs like aida 64 or ampere - they read the current at this stage so this is why more current at that level means faster charging because the voltage is already reduced to what is needed by the battery. Generally you have something like this:
1. Phone and charger negotiate needed power and they way it will be achieved based on the capabilities of the charger, phone and cable connecting them. Let's say that they agree for 20W which is 10 V with 2 A current.
2. Charger transforms 220 V AC to 10 V DC and phone starts drawing 2A of power.
3. Internally in the phone voltage is transformed from 10 V to 4 V which causes current to rise to 5 A which are fed to the battery.
Here is a great analogy showing the relation between voltage, current, power and resistance using something as simple as water hose.
https://www.freeingenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Electricity-101-v2.png
utnick said:
Received the charger and it is as advertised. It peaked at around 25W and then settled at around 22.5W. Something to note is that the longer Anker cable I used to use drops it down to around 8.7W so the cable matters a lot.
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My 10ft type c to type c cable doesn't charge any slower than the supplied cable. However it is worth noting that anyone using a type a to type c will be limited to 15w.
eloko said:
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
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It shouldn't damage it as charging is controlled by the SoC.
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My 10ft type c to type c cable doesn't charge any slower than the supplied cable. However it is worth noting that anyone using a type a to type c will be limited to 15w.
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Ahhhh. Yeah, it's type A to type C.
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Hey guys I'm looking for a car charger that will charge the phone while running google navigation. The current one I have cannot keep up. Basically the phone is using more battery than the charger is supplying so eventually even though it's charging it will die. Please help with some suggestions.
The higher the output amps the better, most online don't say.
This one has a 1A (1000 mA) which is the highest I've seen until now.
http://www.cellphoneshop.net/2usbcar.html
This says 2.1A.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004U4RF7I...e=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B004U4RF7I
Here's one that has 1 of each (1A & 2.1A):
http://www.scosche.com/consumer-tech/product/1921
You need to be careful about using one too high for the phone as well.
The output of the wall charger that comes with the phone is 1A. Find an USB car charger that outputs 1A and you should be fine.
This will run Pandora&Navigation at the same time and still charge,but not by much. But a least it doesn't discharge.
*LINK*
The phones are only meant to charge up so fast. once you attempt to go over that limit, you risk causing damage to your phone. don't look for something with so much power it charges it in 20 minutes. it will kill the phone and battery.
Is 2.1A safe from charging phones?
Sent from my EVO 3D
I doubt the phone will charge any faster even if you get a 2A charger, but there are many chargers that only charge the phone half as fast as you possibly could. Some chargers only provide 0.5A (500mA, conforming to the PC USB spec) and some 1A chargers will only provide 0.5A because of the pin out on the connector plug... You can tell this is happening if under battery stats in settings it says it's charging from USB instead of AC. You could short some pins on said chargers to fix that but it's usually easier to find a proper one for $3 or whatever.
Even if you have a 1A charger you could manage to discharge faster than it charges if you're streaming music while using navigation for a while and/or you happen to be in a low signal area (which eats battery like crazy since the radio goes wild trying to find a better signal/tower).
I have the one in the link below. It is OEM HTC for the Thunderbolt, and has
2x 1A Ports. It keeps up with
Pandora and GMaps. My old charger would not (it was 500mA.) The cool thing is that both ports are 1A in a small form factor, and it has a white LED that illuminates them. It comes with a coiled cord which is well built.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003OQUJRQ/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
Swyped using 2 cores and 3 Ds
I have the Motorola one, and it keeps up, and charges fast.
This one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000S5Q9CA
my tom tom universal one is the only one that ive found to come out at exactly 1A - 1.2A measured via current widget...
All the other brand 1A's sit at 350 - 600ma
I get about 0 - 150ma normal with Google Navigation and Power Amp playing flacs
I get about 500 - 780ma with Tom Tom with Google Navigation and Power Amp playing flacs
billyapd21 said:
Hey guys I'm looking for a car charger that will charge the phone while running google navigation. The current one I have cannot keep up. Basically the phone is using more battery than the charger is supplying so eventually even though it's charging it will die. Please help with some suggestions.
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Check out this thread from the OG EVO Accessories. Good info on car chargers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861055&highlight=car+chargers
I have this:
Monoprice.com Car Charger (Cigarette Lighter to USB Female Converter) #6766, 1000mA
and a cheap 3 foot USB cable from Monoprice also and it will charge while on 4G, Google Navigation and Pandora playing
runcool said:
The phones are only meant to charge up so fast. once you attempt to go over that limit, you risk causing damage to your phone. don't look for something with so much power it charges it in 20 minutes. it will kill the phone and battery.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. The rating indicates the maximum current the charger is capable of. The phone will decide how much to draw.
Actually, the high rating is not enough. The charger should have a certain circuitry ( a resistor between data pins) to "tell" phone that it can supply higher current. 2.1A iPad charger doesn't have it because it was designed to communicate with iGadgets. It will act like a regular 500mA charger when connected to an Android phone.
A lot of the 1amp chargers that you see will still only charge your phone at 500ma. Unless USB pins 2 and 3 are shorted together (or have less then 200 ohms between pins 2 and 3), the phone will think it's connecting to a computer and only draw 500ma. I modified a few 1amp chargers to actually charge at 1amp instead of 500ma. See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=767961
happyhallsy8 said:
my tom tom universal one is the only one that ive found to come out at exactly 1A - 1.2A measured via current widget...
All the other brand 1A's sit at 350 - 600ma
I get about 0 - 150ma normal with Google Navigation and Power Amp playing flacs
I get about 500 - 780ma with Tom Tom with Google Navigation and Power Amp playing flacs
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Are you SURE you're getting the right result with the Current Widget? There's been quite a few threads on this topic and it doesn't seem that the Current Widget correctly supports our phone. Per that widget, I'm getting 400ma current draw normally - without running any active apps. When I use various chargers, that number goes up or down seemingly at random, LOL.
My most powerful charger, which provides 2A on one port and 2.1 A on the other - makes the widget report only 35 mA.
In short - I wish there was an app that correctly measures current draw on our phone, but I haven't found one based on multiple threads on the topic.
I use Battery Monitor Widget. I definitely see the difference between 500mA and 1A chargers. Some current form the charger is consumed by the phone itself, so it is not possible measure the actual draw from the power supply without an external meter.
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Get the Amazon one. Trust me! I have one and all my buddies have them. It is by far the cheapest and most powerful charger you can find.
My buddy did a review of it on here:
http://randomtek.com/randomtek-com-best-motorola-rapid-car-charger/
I have the one from Sprint with the AC adapter in it that pops out and it works well. Granted it was a bit pricey, but, it does the job and the battery does in fact charge while using telenav navigation and listening to music through the stereo as well. Slowly, but, at least it doesn't discharge while being charged....LOL...
jinwu57 said:
Get the Amazon one. Trust me! I have one and all my buddies have them. It is by far the cheapest and most powerful charger you can find.
My buddy did a review of it on here:
http://randomtek.com/randomtek-com-best-motorola-rapid-car-charger/
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I've seen/ heard a LOT of people who have that one and love it! Good choice with that one. I have a Motorola that also has a USB port in it and i little slide cover for the usb port when you're not using it, works great! I love it an highly recommend it. I charge my 3D and 4th Gen iPod Touch with it at the same time.
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jinwu57 said:
Get the Amazon one. Trust me! I have one and all my buddies have them. It is by far the cheapest and most powerful charger you can find.
My buddy did a review of it on here:
http://randomtek.com/randomtek-com-best-motorola-rapid-car-charger/
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This is one of the few chargers that would power the Palm Touchstone reliably. There was an extensive thread at Pre Central on car chargers. Just make sure it's the SPN5400A like in the link above. Some other Motorola chargers have a lower output.
On the E3D it shows charging on AC.
Note charges faster with Kindle fire's charger. Using white at&t i717 Note
Here is my find and situation. My Note was almost dead it was at 5%. Forgot charger at home and only available charger was from a Kindle Fire. Plugged it in. I know Note takes forever to charge so I thought ok Ill let it charge for about an hour it should put me at around 40%. About an hour later I checked phone and battery charge was at 87%. ???
Didnt believe it at first I thought OK maybe I was seeing sh*t and it really wasnt at 5%. Had to take off so didnt put too much thought into. Next day thought about it and said ok WHAT IF Kindle Fire's charger charges it faster. Completely drained battery til phone shut off. Plugged it in using Kindle's charger turned on Note, turned off data, background data, let it charge for exactly 30 minutes checked charge it was 39%. Unplugged it turned on data, background data and did some heavy usage to drain battery again til phone shut off. Plugged it in using the charger that came with Note, turned it on and again I turned off data/background data. Let it charge for 30 mins checked charge and it was at 14%.
So Im sharing my find and yes Kindle Fire's charger does charge it way faster and Im wondering if anyone else has tried/used the Fire's charger and has had the same result and if using the Fire's charger going to damage battery if I keep using it instead of charger that came with it?
I have used my Kindle Fire's charger since I got my Note. The current rating on the Fire's charger is higher at 1.8a as opposed to the stock 1.0a. However, the Notes charging circuit likely cannot draw 1.8a, the highest I have seen it go with some battery app displaying current was about 1.2a. So yes, it might charge slightly faster. The biggest benefit I see though is the lack of a need for separate chargers.
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I have been using my gtab 10.1 charger. Its rated at 2.0 amps and I can get a full charge from 10% in about 3 hours. Much faster than the 1.0 amp charge wart that came with the note, by about 2.5 hours.
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Pretty sure the Note charges at 1A max. If you're charging faster, it means your other charger isn't providing 1A.
I have seen battery monitor widget display ~1150ma if it was in deep sleep and I quickly check it before it refreshes. It averages about 750ma if I'm using it while charging. This tapers off once it hits 80% or so when the charging tapers off. Battery Monitor Widget does say this is estimated. I would agree that the Note will never draw more than ~1.1a or so.
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arsonizt said:
Note charges faster with Kindle fire's charger. Using white at&t i717 Note
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Thank you! Makes a huge difference...only thing that was bugging me about the phone was the slow charging...i was about to go crazy.
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Pretty sure the Note charges at 1A max. If you're charging faster, it means your other charger isn't providing 1A.
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False. The note can definitely handle more. I have also use a Gtab charger and it usually spiked around 1700mA
I currently use an Asus Transformer charger which is rated at 1.2A. I will say, I get about exactly that. 1281mA posted below
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I've had similar results with my HP TouchPad charger which is rated at 2A.
I use my iPad charger.. 2.1 A... seems faster as well. I hardly ever charge though since I bought the QCell battery charger and two extra batteries, so one is always at 100 percent.
I agree. I have used the Kindle Fire's charger on my note as well and it did charge much faster. I would bet that not all of the Samsung chargers that come with the Note are quality chargers.. The first one that originally came with my note would either charge very slowly, or flat out not charge at all. I would have to un-plug, and plug it back in to the wall a few times to get it to start.
AT$T game me a replacement charger after dealing with it for 2 weeks, and it has begun to have the same issue now after about 2 month use. If I use the SE charger that came with my Xperia X10 (750ma), I actually get a more stable charge than what the 1A Samsung charger gets. Albeit not any faster, but it doesn't just STOP charging out of the blue.
I think I will try buying a tablet charger, and stop using my Note's charger all together.
Does Kindle offer vehicle charger?
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You don't need a kindle charger to get the higher amp rating, just a higher rated charger. There are several vehicle chargers available that are able to charge at 1A or greater. You will likely want to find one designed for Android devices rather than iOS devices as iOS uses a different method to charge at higher amperage than most Android devices use. There are articles on modifying the charger but if you find a Kindle compatible charger online that may be a good bet.
I've bought both Kensington 2.1A and 3.1A but haven't attempted shorting middle pins or cable as discussed in other threads. I use ProClip mounts in my car, but wife didn't want one in her Highlander (our travel vehicle) so I bought Samsung's mount for Note and it cosistently charges 1.0-1.2A and outpaces GPS' drain
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slapshot591 said:
False. The note can definitely handle more. I have also use a Gtab charger and it usually spiked around 1700mA
I currently use an Asus Transformer charger which is rated at 1.2A. I will say, I get about exactly that. 1281mA posted below
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What current measuring widget is that? I use "Current Widget" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget&hl=en and I have never seen over 1003mA regardless if I use a 1A charger that I shorted D+ to D- on or my Touchpad charger that is capable of 2.1A. I wonder if Current Widget shows charging current and the one you use shows total system current?
mtucker said:
What current measuring widget is that? I use "Current Widget" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget&hl=en and I have never seen over 1003mA regardless if I use a 1A charger that I shorted D+ to D- on or my Touchpad charger that is capable of 2.1A. I wonder if Current Widget shows charging current and the one you use shows total system current?
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Using Battery Monitor Widget Pro, I've been using it since launch. It is actually measuring the current usage of the battery, either charging or discharging. I'm using this on an Anker 2700mAh battery and it does charge pretty quickly for me.
arsonizt said:
Note charges faster with Kindle fire's charger. Using white at&t i717 Note
Plugged it in using Kindle's charger turned on Note, turned off data, background data, let it charge for exactly 30 minutes checked charge it was 39%.
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This would indicate that the power source you are using is between 1.8A and 2A.
Assuming your using the 2500 MaH battery:
1% = 25 MaH
30 minutes charge of 39% = 975 Mah
If this was accomplished in 30 minutes you would do 975 x 2 = 1950 MaH.
Given the above statistics, you would assume your phone was being charged by something with the output of 2A. I would defnitely run the terminal command on this to verify output though..
THANKS TO PJ_RAGE for already doing work on this subject....This is from his post a while back
"cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_current_adc
The reported number will be the charge current for your charger. Divide the number you receive by 10, and that is the mA. For example, if a USB charger reports "4851", divide by 10 and the charge current is 485.1mA. Note that this only reports charging current -- it cannot report the current drain, and will just report "0" when you try it without a charger connected.
If you're really still curious, you can see what type of charger the phone actually thinks is connected to your phone (ie, whether or not the phone thinks the data lines are shorted) by entering the following instead:
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_source
The reported number should be a 0, 1, or 2. 0 = no charger connected, 1 = data lines NOT shorted, USB normal charge, and 2 = data lines ARE shorted, AC fast charge.
mtucker said:
What current measuring widget is that? I use "Current Widget" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget&hl=en and I have never seen over 1003mA regardless if I use a 1A charger that I shorted D+ to D- on or my Touchpad charger that is capable of 2.1A. I wonder if Current Widget shows charging current and the one you use shows total system current?
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I assume this widget sleeps if the device is asleep? I had a widget once that updated very 30 seconds and did it ON OR OFF.. ie: The phone was basically always awake because this stupid widget was updating itself every 30s regardless of the circumstances.
That said, my note seems to be awake 80% of the time anyway..
slapshot591 said:
False. The note can definitely handle more. I have also use a Gtab charger and it usually spiked around 1700mA
I currently use an Asus Transformer charger which is rated at 1.2A. I will say, I get about exactly that. 1281mA posted below
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Is that LunarUI i'm seeing? How/where did you get that theme?
Let me post a few observations of my own as I have worked with LiOn technology through my work since it was invented.
This isn't my first go around with this technology.
One of my past employers actually invented smart LiON technology (successfully suing all the big computer makers for royality payments due to their patents) and my current employer is involved in producing the battery actually used in our specific ATT Note device. Believe it or not. Your choice. It's the truth.
1--Lithium Ion charging current is controlled by battery temperature. If the battery is hot, the device won't ALLOW it to charge rapidly -- if at all. This is for safety reasons. Charge too quickly you reduce life, or risk a rupture. Not good, especially for latter. In most cases, the LiON batteries contain a computer chip and a data bus to communicate back to the device. In other cases, the device simply uses voltage alone to make a rougher determination of what is going on inside in the cell. Since there are a variety of applications available for Android that supply a specific temp for the battery, I suspect the former is true in our case.
2--Lithium Ion charging current is reduced as the cell nears full charge; which is why it slows down when it gets nearly full. Of course, it can slow down when it gets hot. This is why when you plug it in, it may not charge right away. Discharge of the cell produces a temperature increase. Putting it on charge reduces the temp but not right away.
3--the supplied adapter from Samsung is "less than ideal" when the first two conditions allow greater current (charging). Using another adapter works much faster if it has > 1A capacity. I use a iPad (gasp) adapter and it REALLY charges fast with the right cable (my next point).
4--the supplied cable from Samsung (the one that allows it to talk to the computer) is "less than ideal" for charging. Go to the ATT store and buy the $10 USB-Micro USB cable they sell. It will SCREAM in comparision, assuming all of the first 3 conditions listed above are met.
Take this information as you see fit. I don't work for ATT, I'm only sharing my knowledge of the technology, explaining what people are seeing, and providing my recommendations based on my observations. Yes, I have used a jig and an amp meter to confirm all my results -- rather than some software application. I'm not saying the application is bad, just that I can tell you for sure how to tell how much current is being supplied/taken in a circuit. You measure it with an amp meter.. the old fashioned way.
Peace
If you havent read the post above mine, read it first. Very informative and all true. Everything I have to say expands on what was said above.
Ok, this is real simple folks, the USB STANDARDS state that the maximum power output is 2 amps. This means that ANY device that charges off a USB cable WILL charge at a maximum of 2 amps, period. You cannot make the amperage higher than 2 amps. This means there is no point in searching around for a 3 amp charger because the phone will NOT accept anything more than 2 amps and ANYTHING claiming more than 2 amps is simply lying.
Now, having said that, this also does NOT mean that you HAVE to charge at 2 amps, it means that the MAXIMUM amps that can be PROVIDED is 2 amps. The wall charger that comes with the Note is a 1.0 amp charger. This means you can find a different wall charger that outputs 2 amps and effectively HALF your charge time.
The other factor to take into consideration is phone usage. The processor does consume some power when the phone is on. Additionally, Android charges the battery by dumping high current into the battery until its at around 80% and slowly reduces the current as the battery capacity reaches higher levels. So even tho a 2 amp charger should charge the phone in about an hour and a half, it really is closer to two and a half hours.
So the last point I want to make is, it does NOT matter what charger you have, the charging process is completely software controlled. The charger just puts out power at a constant rate. All lithium ion devices have the same charging scheme that has been pretty much standardized. While there are some very minor differences, YOU dont need to worry about the technical side of it, this is what the software was written to handle.
I highly recommend looking at the battery university website and if you can afford it, purchasing their book for the skinny on everything you need to know about batteries and how they work.
+1 for Battery Monitor Widget Pro (by 3C). Its an expensive app at around $4 but gives you EVERYTHING you could possibly want to know about what is going on with your phones power including drain, charge rate, current battery condition, VERY detailed logging, HIGHLY customizable widget, etc. Just look at the screenshots in the appstore (make sure you are looking for the one by 3C as there are several apps with the same name). Oh, and did I mention, it uses less than 1% of battery power per charge cycle to monitor all of this?
System Tuner Pro by 3C is also very nice.
I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
skrypj said:
I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
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The M-charger that comes with the N6 has 3 modes, standard, turbo1 and turbo2. When the battery is charged below 78% than one of the turbo modes is active. Because in turbo the voltage is 9 or 12 v the battery can become hot. But the charge capacity will be max 14 watt. The same happens when discharging and using video, maps and internet connection at the same time.
I.m.o a quick charge car charger is not needed, unless you are using videos, game apps, internet etc. when driving. And there is a possibility that the car outlet has a lower capacity than needed for turbo charging,
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The M-charger that comes with the N6 has 3 modes, standard, turbo1 and turbo2. When the battery is charged below 78% than one of the turbo modes is active. Because in turbo the voltage is 9 or 12 v the battery can become hot. But the charge capacity will be max 14 watt. The same happens when discharging and using video, maps and internet connection at the same time.
I.m.o a quick charge car charger is not needed, unless you are using videos, game apps, internet etc. when driving. And there is a possibility that the car outlet has a lower capacity than needed for turbo charging,
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I spend a lot of time making short trips in my car, jumping in and out for meetings, and it would be nice to have this feature to get my phone charged back up in the 10 or 15 minutes I might have. I am not so much worried about whether or not the charger can charge the phone over long periods as I am typically just navigating or streaming Bluetooth. If I was using the 500ma ports built into the car then that would be another story.
Most car outlets can run 300+ watt power inverters so I seriously doubt an 30 or 36 watt cell phone charger is going to surpass any limitations. My car has a 30 amp fuse on the outlet which is like 360 watts at 12 volts.
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. . . Most car outlets can run 300+ watt power inverters so I seriously doubt an 30 or 36 watt cell phone charger is going to surpass any limitations. My car has a 30 amp fuse on the outlet which is like 360 watts at 12 volts.
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Sorry but I did not mean the 12 volt outlet, but a USB outlet. Many people here in NL are using usb-adapters in the sigaret lighter outlet. Many USB adapter are max 250mA at 5 volt
As far as I can see every charger will be good as long as the capacity is at least 1A at 5 volt.
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I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
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I use the Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 30W 2 Ports USB Car Charger Adapter with my Nexus 6. I've not found the phone hot after use.
I've run Google Maps navigation with TuneIn streaming music at the same time and managed to get a 20% battery lift in 30 minutes, which is better than the random charger I had before which would be lucky to break even, if not lose 10%.
I have the quick charger from vzw and have had no issues with it. Ya the phone gets warm, and it lives in a case. Still no issues.
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I use the Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 30W 2 Ports USB Car Charger Adapter with my Nexus 6. I've not found the phone hot after use.
I've run Google Maps navigation with TuneIn streaming music at the same time and managed to get a 20% battery lift in 30 minutes, which is better than the random charger I had before which would be lucky to break even, if not lose 10%.
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Cool. I snagged the 36w Aukey. Amazon just happened to have a coupon code on it making it $10 while I was pondering the situation so that tipped the scales.
Coupon code is 3C6ZIKJY
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This is the one I have. I have only used it a few times but I have had zero issues with it. It seems to charge just as fast as the stock house charger in my opinion. It also has a notification light that lights up blue when it is plugged in / has power and green when it is actually charging your device. Kind of handy imo. I mainly went with this one because of it actually being "Qualcomm Certified" or whatever.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VH...ar+charger&dpPl=1&dpID=415UvP5jebL&ref=plSrch
This is the cable I got to go with it. It appears to be very nice and of high quality. I don't like being on a short leash.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00SU...+usb+cable&dpPl=1&dpID=31ynDmfEZZL&ref=plSrch
I was looking for a quick charge 2.0 car charger on amazon, and ran into a little Bluetooth fm transmitter that you plug into the cigarette lighter. It has 2 usb ports both 2.1a (21W, 4.2A)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010ZOK1Q8/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The reviews on it seem outstanding
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This is the one i'm rocking and love it
I also got a couple of blitzwolf chargers and they work great as well.
I use this and it works great....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R3XIKXQ
As for the heat issue, I don't think the the phone will get THAT much hotter using this than it would with a standard charger. I think the majority of heat issues in a car scenario are a result of a combination of (A) having the phone mounted where the sun is shining on it and (B) having the screen on continuously (if navigating). The best way to combat this, in my opinion, is to find a phone holder that attaches to (or around) your car's vent. That way when you have your A/C on on hot days, it will keep the phone cool. It sounds silly but it works surprisingly well (Note: I've never had much issue with any of my phones getting too hot in the winter when this A/C method wouldn't really work).
I'd suggest looking into ProClip mounts... at least for my car and my previous car, they had an option that positioned the mount directly over a vent...
Note: If you are curious about the foam/tape, it's because I have a universal holder and not a Nexus 6 specific holder. The universal is not a great fit for the odd contours of the Nexus 6 so I added some foam.
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Cool. I snagged the 36w Aukey. Amazon just happened to have a coupon code on it making it $10 while I was pondering the situation so that tipped the scales.
Coupon code is 3C6ZIKJY
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Definitely an awesome charger! I grabbed it on a similar deal!
Charger that comes with this phone is just labeled fast charge... Phone seems to charge pretty slow also from what I see.
i just installed some dual 2.4A usb outlets in my house they charge very fast from 8% to 100% in about an hour, considering the Amperage on the stock charger is 1.8A it doesn't seem like it would be enough to use the phone while charging.
I havent used the stock charger yet but mine reads it puts out [email protected] 1.8amps or [email protected] 1.8amps. I am waiting for my battery to get really low so i can see how fast it will charge.
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When the OEM charger is plugged in, swipe down and you can see it says it's being fast charged.
When plugged in, my screen does say Quick Charge, and my phone charged rather fast, but still getting used to it. Even when I had my phone plugged into a normal new USB C plugged directly into my usb outlet, it seemed to charge much faster than I was expecting.
Yes I understand it says fast charging, so does the quick charge 2.0 with this phone, but is it actually charging at QC 3.0 speeds??
It seems silly they would make a Quick Charge 3.0 phone and not supply the relevant charger.
I ordered an aftermarket QC 3.0 charger, I guess I can do some comparisons when it shows up.
Anker makes a very nice Quick Charge 3.0 charger.
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I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015ZJKWFS/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
jrwingate6 said:
Anker makes a very nice Quick Charge 3.0 charger.
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They didn't give a qc2.0 charger with g4
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I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015ZJKWFS/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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I performed a test with the aftermarket QC 3.0 charger linked above and the one supplied with the phone. I drained to 90% and as soon as it hit 90 I plugged it in and started the timer. The results are nearly identical in how fast 100% charge was achieved.
The first screenshot of total time was the aftermarket charger and the 2nd is the factory charger. I would venture to guess based on these results, the factory charger is QC 3.0, but you can draw your own conclusions.
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Well if the stock charger says 9V @ 1.8A and 5V @ 1.8A, then it's not true QC 3.0 as that uses voltages from 5V - 20V.
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I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
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There only will be a minimal effect because the original charger has a 9V and 1.8A = 16W rating.
All Aftermarket charger with QC 3.0 had a maximum reading of 18W, 9V at 2A or 12v at 1.5A.
And you can't do a comparison at the last 10%percent of the charging process, because of of the method that's just to charge lithium battery's.
Lithium-ion battery see charge and discharge
Around the last 10% will be constant voltage where the charger has minimal influence. Because the internal resistance of the battery cause the amount of power that goes in the battery.
Ca you do another test with larger charge?
Before any of you rush out and buy a cheap charger to save a few bucks I'd think twice about it. I have been screwed by cheap chargers on more than one occasion which is why I refuse to buy them anymore.
I've had them stop working after a couple weeks and many of them made a very annoying noise. Some made a high pitch squealing noise while just sitting there doing nothing and others made the noise while charging.
Slow and Fast
I noticed it charged VERY slow at first while i was using the phone at the same time. I notoced the charger wasnt even slighty warm to the touch after 30+ minutes. That made me think and noticed if I left the phone at rest without turning it on it charges much quicker and the charger got warm quick. And the charger actually cools down if you start using it half way through a charge.
*I took a screen shot of the battery usage graph, but I'm new so I can't post photos yet so you'll have to trust me lol
My rough estimates are that if you are using the phone while charging it will take just over 2 hours, but if you don't touch it then it charges in under 50 minutes.
Mind you phones battery temperature also effects the charge rate, is if you have it on top of a pillow it might not charge as quick.
You don't wanna use the phone while it quick charges. Turn screen off for an hour and it will be done
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Dude how are you basing charging speeds from 90% to 100%.../
The charger that came with the G5 is the same charger that came with my v10, it is only Quick Charge 2.0, I have compared the model #'s and they are exactly the same. I have gone on amazon and ordered a Anker Quick Charge 3.0 plug and a couple of their USB-C cables.
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I just contacted LG through their website via E-Mail regarding the Quick Charge 3.0 charger, I will follow-up once I receive an email back from them. The website advised that I should receive an email within 24 hours.
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There only will be a minimal effect because the original charger has a 9V and 1.8A = 16W rating.
All Aftermarket charger with QC 3.0 had a maximum reading of 18W, 9V at 2A or 12v at 1.5A.
And you can't do a comparison at the last 10%percent of the charging process, because of of the method that's just to charge lithium battery's.
Lithium-ion battery see charge and discharge
Around the last 10% will be constant voltage where the charger has minimal influence. Because the internal resistance of the battery cause the amount of power that goes in the battery.
Ca you do another test with larger charge?
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I have drained to 50% and am performing the same test with the factory charger now. Will update results later this evening so I can repeat with the aftermarket charger.
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Dude how are you basing charging speeds from 90% to 100%.../
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It's a wonder why anyone tries to share information on this site with comments like this. Since you probably only skimmed over what I posted, I said feel free to draw your own conclusions and that it was a 'quick test'.
When the phone gets to 80 % the other 20% go pretty slow, might even be similar to the QC 2.0... But 50% to 100% would be a good test, and we can see if there's a difference
I recently bought the Anker Quick Charge 3.0 39W Dual USB Car Charger (Amazon link below) and, while my Pixel will charge at regular speed when plugged in, I cannot get Quick Charging to activate. I've tried multiple USB-C cables (one that came with the Pixel as well as a separate one I bought) in both of the charger's USB ports, but to no avail. The Quick Charging feature works when plugged into a compatible wall outlet (using the same cables) so I'm not sure if I'm missing something or just have a faulty charger. Any thoughts or suggestions on how to proceed would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks very much.
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It's because what pixel have is type c QC, not Qualcomm QC, thats probably the reson
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It's because what pixel have is type c QC, not Qualcomm QC, thats probably the reson
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Thanks very much for the reply. That makes sense.
Is there a compatible car charger that activates the Pixel's QC feature? Or could it be charging at the maximum rate and perhaps just not showing the "Charging Rapidly" notification? Just trying to figure out if I should keep or return this charger.
Thanks again.
goodwidp said:
Thanks very much for the reply. That makes sense.
Is there a compatible car charger that activates the Pixel's QC feature? Or could it be charging at the maximum rate and perhaps just not showing the "Charging Rapidly" notification? Just trying to figure out if I should keep or return this charger.
Thanks again.
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Sorry mate, I honestly not sure but i think you can track the voltage by apps like Ampere
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It's because what pixel have is type c QC, not Qualcomm QC, thats probably the reson
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I'm sorry man but youre wrong.
I have the same charger in my car. I plug my pixel into it on my way from work to school usually at 30% and as soon as I do it'll charge rapidly and it'll state on the lockscreen that it's charging rapidly. By the time I reach school (it's only 30 mins away) the pixel is at 75-80%
So yes this should rapidly charge your pixel as it rapidly charges mine from day one.
You may have to check the voltage output going to that outlet in the car, it may just need to be recalibrated. Older cars tend to loose some voltage power. ( I know from experience in my last car)
The cable quality can also affect charging current. Download Ampere (its free). Get a decent cable recommended by Benson. It makes a huge difference in charging current and hence, speed.
Check here for good cables:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357
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The cable quality can also affect charging current. Download Ampere (its free). Get a decent cable recommended by Benson. It makes a huge difference in charging current and hence, speed.
Check here for good cables:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357
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Yeah always use a cable with superb quality. I use the reg usb to usbc in the car.
If you need a USB c to USB c I recommend buying one at the Apple store. Their cables are approved for the pixel and are great quality.
If you're still looking for a auto charger, you want want one that support Power delivery 2.0 not Quick Charge 2/3.0
This is the one I use.
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Thanks very much to everyone for the helpful replies.
Surprisingly, the situation seems to have sorted itself out over the past week as the charger is now activating the quick charging when in use. It's not quite as strong as a wall outlet (see Ampere pics below), but it's still pretty quick and I now see the "Charging Rapidly" notification when plugged in (though it takes a few seconds to display). It really wasn't showing that notification when I first tried the charger and opened this thread, so I'm not sure what caused the change, but I'm satisfied with the charger so I'll keep it.
Here are screenshots of Ampere showing the max charging rate for both the car and wall outlet (one that came w/ Pixel) after being plugged in for 20-30 min. Is it normal that the car charger's max rate is slightly slower than the wall? Thanks again, all. I sincerely appreciate the help and info.
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May I have the link of amper from play store. searched, but got several apps.
goodwidp said:
Thanks very much to everyone for the helpful replies.
Surprisingly, the situation seems to have sorted itself out over the past week as the charger is now activating the quick charging when in use. It's not quite as strong as a wall outlet (see Ampere pics below), but it's still pretty quick and I now see the "Charging Rapidly" notification when plugged in (though it takes a few seconds to display). It really wasn't showing that notification when I first tried the charger and opened this thread, so I'm not sure what caused the change, but I'm satisfied with the charger so I'll keep it.
Here are screenshots of Ampere showing the max charging rate for both the car and wall outlet (one that came w/ Pixel) after being plugged in for 20-30 min. Is it normal that the car charger's max rate is slightly slower than the wall? Thanks again, all. I sincerely appreciate the help and info.
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May I have the link of amper from play store. searched, but got several apps.
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Here's the one you want:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere&hl=en
Anker Quick Charge 3.0 39W Dual USB Car Charger, PowerDrive Speed 2 for Google Pixel. It charges devices up to 80% in just 35 minutes. It is enough power to charge power-hungry USB devices at full speed. It is also ultra-compact build, twin USB ports, soft LED light, and carbon-fiber mesh ensure maximum convenience and a sleek finish.