Hi, I have no doubt this is a common question, but I'm here because after researching all day on this website and others, I have heard conflicting narratives and want to see if I can get some clarity with someone who has knowledge on this.
TLDR; I am wondering if all U.S. phones with Snapdragon cannot be normally rooted by just enabling OEM unlock/unlocking bootloader and must be rooted in an expert/costly method. Or if accounts from people saying they enabled OEM unlock on their Moto G Powers I read were not just fictional or with non-U.S. phones.
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I live in the U.S. What I understand is that all U.S. Android phones with the Snapdragon chipset are impossible to easily root because they cannot have their bootloaders unlocked. I found this to be the case with the (unlocked, not carrier-specific) U.S. Moto G Power 2021 phone I just bought. I cannot tick OEM Unlocking in Developer settings, it's greyed out. I found users here and on other forums saying that it's possible to conventionally root Moto G Power 2021 phones, which I thought up till recently because I easily got an ID from the Motorola website, but obviously couldn't proceed with fastboot because OEM Unlocking is disabled and I can't change that. (in CMD fastboot said exactly this: OEM must be unlocked to proceed.)
Oddly, some users said that the option stopped being greyed out after a few days or a week. I contacted Motorola to see if this is a design thing but they were of no help, just telling me not to root as if I was unaware it voids warranty. Notably, just as many users said that the option would always be disabled, which began to make sense given what I learned next.
It was soon after I found people saying that all U.S. Android phones with Snapdragon consciously lock bootloader. All carrier-specific and unlocked varieties. (Consequently, there are services that do it for you, but this costs money and I'm interested in a phone I can root myself for free.) I was surprised it took me as long as I did to hear of this, and afterwards I searched for this specifically to get more clarity but didn't find any articles or documentation. It explains everything, of course, except for why I read some people (including here) were able to enable OEM Unlocking on their Moto G Power 2021 devices. (perhaps they were not U.S. phones but this was not mentioned.)
At this point if there's no way to enable OEM unlock I'm simply going to return the phone as I want a phone that I can root.
Snapdragon Androids disabling OEM unlock/bootloader unlocking is simply because of U.S. company decisions, because non-U.S. Android phones with Snapdragon do allow it. Because of this, I'm looking at international/European GSM Androids with Snapdragon, (such as the Xiaomi Mi A3) which the majority of anywhere-near-recent Androids clearly have, that would allow me to do this. I'm going to be as sure as I can it will be compatible in the U.S. (I use AT&T) and that it will be feasible to root for free.
Thanks for reading, especially if you got this far.
To root a phone's Android it isn't needed to unlock phone's bootloader. Android is rooted as soon as SU binary is present in Android's file system.
jwoegerbauer said:
To root a phone's Android it isn't needed to unlock phone's bootloader. Android is rooted as soon as SU binary is present in Android's file system.
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Motorola system partition is write-protected, the bootloader must be unlocked for permanent root.
KindleMatchLight said:
Hi, I have no doubt this is a common question, but I'm here because after researching all day on this website and others, I have heard conflicting narratives and want to see if I can get some clarity with someone who has knowledge on this.
I live in the U.S. What I understand is that all U.S. Android phones with the Snapdragon chipset are impossible to easily root because they cannot have their bootloaders unlocked...
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See the CID and OEM unlock posts
[Guide]Un/locking Motorola Bootloader
UnLocking and ReLocking Motorola Bootloader https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a Moto Bootloader Unlocking site Re-Locking see Post #4 More about bootloader UnLocking Post #2 Can my...
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If you get the bootloader unlocked
[Guide] Root Motorola with Magisk (UnLocked Bootloader)(Non-TWRP method)
Root Motorola Devices with Magisk Note: This method has been working with most Moto Devices that the Bootloader can be UnLocked. If the Bootloader cannot be Unlocked this method will not work. Please only use this as a reference. If you require...
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sd_shadow said:
Motorola system partition is write-protected, the bootloader must be unlocked for permanent root.
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Absolute nonsense.
KindleMatchLight said:
Hi, I have no doubt this is a common question, but I'm here because after researching all day on this website and others, I have heard conflicting narratives and want to see if I can get some clarity with someone who has knowledge on this.
I live in the U.S. What I understand is that all U.S. Android phones with the Snapdragon chipset are impossible to easily root because they cannot have their bootloaders unlocked. I found this to be the case with the (unlocked, not carrier-specific) U.S. Moto G Power 2021 phone I just bought. I cannot tick OEM Unlocking in Developer settings, it's greyed out. I found users here and on other forums saying that it's possible to conventionally root Moto G Power 2021 phones, which I thought up till recently because I easily got an ID from the Motorola website, but obviously couldn't proceed with fastboot because OEM Unlocking is disabled and I can't change that. (in CMD fastboot said exactly this: OEM must be unlocked to proceed.)
Oddly, some users said that the option stopped being greyed out after a few days or a week. I contacted Motorola to see if this is a design thing but they were of no help, just telling me not to root as if I was unaware it voids warranty. Notably, just as many users said that the option would always be disabled, which began to make sense given what I learned next.
It was soon after I found people saying that all U.S. Android phones with Snapdragon consciously lock bootloader. All carrier-specific and unlocked varieties. (Consequently, this there are services that do it for you, but this costs money and I'm interested in a phone I can root myself for free.) I was surprised it took me as long as I did to hear of this, and afterwards I searched for this specifically to get more clarity but didn't find any articles or documentation. It explains everything, of course, except for why I read some people (including here) were able to enable OEM Unlocking on their Moto G Power 2021 devices. (perhaps they were not U.S. phones but this was not mentioned.)
At this point if there's no way to enable OEM unlock I'm simply going to return the phone as I want a phone that I can root.
Snapdragon Androids disabling OEM unlock/bootloader unlocking is simply because of U.S. company decisions, because non-U.S. Android phones with Snapdragon do allow it. Because of this, I'm looking at international/European GSM Androids with Snapdragon, (such as the Xiaomi Mi A3) which the majority of anywhere-near-recent Androids clearly have, that would allow me to do this. I'm going to be as sure as I can it will be compatible in the U.S. (I use AT&T) and that it will be feasible to root for free.
Thanks for reading, especially if you got this far.
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You must wait, I believe it was several days of the device being online (wifi at least) to get it to permit unlocking the bootloader. I know with mine (US Xfinity Wireless), out of the box, it was gray, but 2 or 3 days later it was able to be toggled and I unlocked and got Magisk installed easily, using the patch stock boot.img method, and flashing it via fastboot beyond that. So you can do it, just can't do it before you activate the thing properly I think is the main block there you're describing. So perhaps those outside the US (with US models they can't toggle) can connect to a VPN'd wifi network and have it look like it's in the US, maybe.
There's a lot that can be done on these with just tinkering to get it there is all. But make sure you have your stock firmware is all, so you can quickly get it back into bootloader and just a flash away to fix anything really.
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Absolute nonsense.
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Okay. Legit question here... How does one go about injecting SU binary to the system on the moto g 2021 series with secured boot?
Why should SU binary get housed in /system/... ? It's irrelevant where it's located, the main thing is that it's available and executable. Even Magisk doesn't store it in /system/.. but in /data/..
Because folder /data/local/tmp by default is mounted as RW my recommendation is to store it there. Using this storage place isn't conflicting with SELinux and/or AVB.
Code:
adb devices
adb push <FULL-PATH-OF-SU-BINARY-ON-PC-HERE> /data/local/tmp/
adb shell "chmod +x /data/local/tmp/su"
When you have to run a shell command what requires elevated rights, then you run
Code:
adb devices
adb shell "/data/local/tmp/su -c '<SHELL-COMMAND-HERE>'"
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To root a phone's Android it isn't needed to unlock phone's bootloader. Android is rooted as soon as SU binary is present in Android's file system.
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it needs to be unlock
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Hi! My name is Bautista.
This is my first post well explained, I already asked this question before but I did not express myself well (I hope to do it correctly in this attempt)
My problem happens with my Samsung Galaxy A01 SM-A015M, Running on OneUI 2.0/Android 10 with 2gb of ram, a Snapdragon 439, the stock rom/firmware and 32GB of storage, from Argentina.
Things I tried so far, and didn't work for me:
Unlocking the bootloader by following the Gearallnews and Cyanogenmods guides to the letter.
When trying to unlock the bootloader with the guides on the aforementioned pages, when starting the device a sign should appear saying that the bootloader is unlocked, which did not appear.
The device started correctly in the process to configure the device the first time it is turned on, connect the wifi as the guides said. Followed by that I went to the developer options and the option "Oem unlock" was still activated and in blue (which should not happen, it should appear grayed) I heard that some Samsung devices with snapdragon processors had a bootloader that cannot be unlocked
Unlocking the bootloader using ADB AND Fastboot. (ADB detects my device fine, but fastboot doesn't detect it at all)
Using Fastboot from Windows 7, Windows 10, and Kali Linux.
Installing TWRP.
Use rooting apps. (the ones that appear on the XDA rooting page)
What I am going to with this thread, is:
Can my device's bootloader be unlocked? And if so, how?
If the bootloader cannot be unlocked, how can I root or install TWRP?
Please, if you don't understand something or need more information, let me know by replying to this thread or sending me a private message.
Look inside here.
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Look inside here.
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it's the same as Gearallnews and Cyanogenmods guides, i already did that, it dont work
Like the original poster I also have a Samsung Galaxy A01 SM-A015M/DS, OneUI 2.0/Android 10, 2GB ram, 32GB storage, Snapdragon 439, stock firmware (TPA) Panama. I have gone through all the aforementioned procedure and the bootloader does not unlock. There is no bootloader unlock warning on reboot and the OEM Unlock in developer option does not grey out. Does the Snapdragon processor not allow bootloader unlock or is anyone aware of a solution. Thanks for any assistance.
@mullerh
If in Settings -> Developer Option the option "OEM unlock" is present then unlocking the bootloader obviously isn't denied by OEM/Carrier.
But you can check it at your own:
Code:
adb devices
adb shell "getprop ro.oem_unlock_supported"
jwoegerbauer said:
@mullerh
If in Settings -> Developer Option the option "OEM unlock" is present then unlocking the bootloader obviously isn't denied by OEM/Carrier.
But you can check it at your own:
Code:
adb devices
adb shell "getprop ro.oem_unlock_supported"
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Thanks for your response and assistance. The command:
adb shell "getprop ro.oem_unlock_supported" returns a 1
I googled it but found no clarification but I assume that means it is supported.
Therfore there is something else that is blocking the bootloader from unlocking from the unlock mode screen and just prior to reset.
There is also no unlock bootloader warning during the reset.
The more I have Googled this problem the more it seems to indicate that many newer Samsung phones released in North/Latin America with Qualicom Snapdragon 439 processors, have the the bootloaders locked down with a new "security" feature called SecureBoot. Would be interested in getting the experience of others. Thanks
mullerh said:
Thanks for your response and assistance. The command:
adb shell "getprop ro.oem_unlock_supported" returns a 1
I googled it but found no clarification but I assume that means it is supported.
Therfore there is something else that is blocking the bootloader from unlocking from the unlock mode screen and just prior to reset.
There is also no unlock bootloader warning during the reset.
The more I have Googled this problem the more it seems to indicate that many newer Samsung phones released in North/Latin America with Qualicom Snapdragon 439 processors, have the the bootloaders locked down with a new "security" feature called SecureBoot. Would be interested in getting the experience of others. Thanks
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Hi! Did you manage to find a way to unlock the bootloader?
I have not been able to unlock the bootloader on this SM-A015M/DS (Latin American) model with Snapdragon processor. I have done a lot of searching but found little info except articles stating Samsung had gone through some extra effort to secure their latest phones. That also means I can not root it. I was hoping to get some feedback from other who may have had a better experience,
have you tried using the twrp app to install twrp?
i had an old galaxy grand prime which was impossible to unlock, but the app worked without issues
the only thing i had to pay attention is to turn it off right before ir reboots after installing and then loading into recovery
letting the mobile startup without doing this overrieded the command to install twrp
Thanks for your response. It is my understanding (I could be wrong) that before TWRP can be installed the Bootloader needs to be unlocked. The older Samsung usually allowed the Bootloader to be unlocked even if there was difficulty in rooting them. It appears that some of the newer Samsung's with the Snapdragon processors have added an additional security feature called SecureBoot which blocks the Bootloader from being unlocked.
Does anyone have a definitive answer for how to turn the bootloader on? I recently purchased a SM-A015M/DS and didn't have issues with the OEM bootloader option appearing in the options. But when I enter fastboot mode it says my device status is locked. I can't work out if that means it's locked or not.
For what it's worth, when I flashed the firmware onto the phone in the first place, I had to enable the developer option manually- I did this by booting into download mode and then a long press on the volume up button when prompted by the menu. I don't see why this wouldn't work for other devices. There are youtube videos that explain in greater detail if you haven't tried this yet.
Newiser7 said:
Does anyone have a definitive answer for how to turn the bootloader on? I recently purchased a SM-A015M/DS and didn't have issues with the OEM bootloader option appearing in the options. But when I enter fastboot mode it says my device status is locked. I can't work out if that means it's locked or not.
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Enabling OEM unlock option in Developer options does NOT UNLOCK the bootloader. Once you enable the OEM unlock on your device, the unlock ability flag is set to 1, which will allow users to use the fastboot flashing unlock command, the command what starts the "unlocking the bootloader" procedure.
FYI:
After the command is executed, you will see an option for bootloader unlock on your device’s screen.
Use the volume buttons to move up and down and select the option to unlock the bootloader.
A prompt will pop up, asking for confirmation. Use the power button to confirm your selection as yes, and you are done.
The phone will now reboot to fastboot mode. Enter the command “fastboot reboot,” and it will boot into PC.
jwoegerbauer said:
Enabling OEM unlock option in Developer options does NOT UNLOCK the bootloader. Once you enable the OEM unlock on your device, the unlock ability flag is set to 1, which will allow users to use the fastboot flashing unlock command, the command what starts the "unlocking the bootloader" procedure.
FYI:
After the command is executed, you will see an option for bootloader unlock on your device’s screen.
Use the volume buttons to move up and down and select the option to unlock the bootloader.
A prompt will pop up, asking for confirmation. Use the power button to confirm your selection as yes, and you are done.
The phone will now reboot to fastboot mode. Enter the command “fastboot reboot,” and it will boot into PC.
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FYI:
Samsung devices do not support fastboot command, you use Odin or Heimdall to flash what you need.
The answer you provide is misleading
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FYI:
Samsung devices do not support fastboot command, you use Odin or Heimdall to flash what you need.
The answer you provide is misleading
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You are right: I was mistaken.
Thank you for clarifying that the bootloader is still locked. But how can I unlock it? Odin will let me flash the files, but I keep getting AUTH errors when I try to flash magisk patched files to root the phone. I'm assuming this is because the bootloader preventing the files from transferring. Is there a way to unlock it using ADB without fastboot, or a way using Odin? It seems crazy that unlocking the bootloader is enabled but I am still unable to actually unlock it.
I have also tried the CROM Service app (couldn't get it to install on my phone, error 3003 with ADB install), as well as the bootloader unlock method where I boot into download mode, hold the volume up key, and unlock the bootloader that way. I have done the latter at least 5 times and the bootloader is still locked. Ridiculous.
This prop apparently only confirms that the phone supports being unlocked, not that it is actually unlocked.
adb shell "getprop ro.oem_unlock_supported"
Check a few others, also see the official docs.
sys.oem_unlock_allowed
androidboot.flash.locked (the docs say this, but I think Samsung uses something different)
ro.boot.flash.locked
ro.boot.other.locked
Maybe also check these:
ro.boot.verifiedbootstate
ro.boot.veritymode
The docs indicate that the verifiedbootstate should be orange if the bootloader is unlocked. I don't know much about it, though.
You can always use grep to search for any interesting values, like "lock" or "boot" or "flash":
adb shell getprop | grep lock
adb shell getprop | grep boot
adb shell getprop | grep flash
Maybe report any interesting values you have with and without OEM Unlock checked. Maybe someone smarter than us will find it useful.
I would really like to see an A01 root happen, it's such an affordable and accessible device for all sorts of things. Great as a backup device or for a project. You think someone would've released some goods for it by now. It's been out all year.
And for the 16GB model, it's absolutely terrible because Samsung eats up so much space, then has the nerve to remove the Adoptable Storage feature. So even if you get a fast SD card, you can't install apps on it. Other than that, it's a perfectly serviceable phone. I would think with root we could get Adoptable Storage working.
To summarize what has been previously stated the Samsung Galaxy A01, version SM-A015M/DS is the Latin American version of this cellphone. This cellphone has a Snapdragon processor. This version is very similar to the versions (also Snapdragon processors) used by some US Carriers. Many current versions of Samsung cellphones have an additional security feature called "SecureBoot" which blocks bootloader unlocking. Some say this features was added at the request of US Carriers
The Asian version of the A01 has a Exynos processor. It is my understanding that with these it is very easy to unlock the bootloader and root the phone using the usual conventional methods. The Asian variant unfortunately does not cover some of the wireless bands used in the US/Canada/Latin America.
I have a Samsung Galaxy A01 SM-A015M/DS, OneUI 2.0/Android 10, 2GB ram, 32GB storage, Snapdragon 439, stock firmware (TPA) for Panama.
My research indicates that there is not yet an available bootloader unlocking and easy root method for this (A01) phone. For some other current Samsung models there does appear to be a method of flashing certain custom ROMs without a bootloader unlock but they appear to come with problems which include loss of some cellphone functions and a reduction in the charged battery life. So it seems hardly worth it.
It also appears that it is current well known that all current Samsung phones with Snapdragon processors have not allowed bootloader unlocking and rooting due to the enhanced security feature.
At this time we can only complain and/or not buy any additional Samsung phones
Perhaps with time skillful developers will come up with a method to solve this problem with this inexpensive A01.
Please provide any new or updated info if you have it.
Any solution for rooting Galaxy A01 ?
I use A015f region SER (Russia) In Russia, too, the device is locked (bootloader) of course, give any solution
One thing I know is that a fellow SM-M015f, which is almost identical, which is with the same Snapdragon 439, except for the battery capacity and screen size and gigabytes of internal memory, successfully unlocks and gets Magisk root.
this phone actually has a fastboot mode, from recover mode select reboot to bootloader, it will boot to fastboot mode,but ive still been unsucessful in getting fastboot mode to work, devices manager reports device error,
I can start the unlock proccess.
But after it is done and the data is wipped,
It keeps locked.
Sad
Hi guys, how y'all doing?
I've been trying to unlock the bootloader of my phone a couple of months now and every single attempt is a failure. I've done all the steps right but, in the Motorola website I receive a message that my phone don't apply for unlocking the bootloader.
Anyone knows anything about this, if it can be bypassed somehow or if has anyway to contact Motorola to get any information about this issue.
Thanks in advance.
1Apokalypsis said:
Hi guys, how y'all doing?
I've been trying to unlock the bootloader of my phone a couple of months now and every single attempt is a failure. I've done all the steps right but, in the Motorola website I receive a message that my phone don't apply for unlocking the bootloader.
Anyone knows anything about this, if it can be bypassed somehow or if has anyway to contact Motorola to get any information about this issue.
Thanks in advance.
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Well, I can think of a few reasons why you can't unlock your bootloader.
1. The most obvious one: you haven't enabled OEM unlocking under developer settings.
2. You're not using a retail device. Only retail devices can unlock BL AFAIK. Non-retail devices are those sold by carriers (AT&T, Verizon, whatever else).
3. Your bootloader is not unlockable, even if its retail.
The 1st problem is easy to solve and I won't discuss it.
The other two are stored as variables on your bootloader and can be checked with the "fastboot getvar [x]" command, where [x] is the variable name.
The variables of interest here are:
1. "ro.build.version.full" - this tells if device is retail or not. It should return something like "retail.en.US" or "retail.xx.XX", depends on region.
2. "cid" - I have no idea cid stands for, but I think it's related to bootloader type.
3. Be aware that I don't know if the 1st variable has the same name on all motorola devices. In case of doubt, use "fastboot getvar all" to list all variables, then you can check manually.
Nowadays, it's not common for Motorola devices to have locked cids. In Lollipop/Marshmallow days, some devices had that issue where it was retail but impossible to unlock due to cid. The un-unlockable cids should be the same for all devices but you'll have to research, I don't remember which is which anymore.
SUMMARY:
1. check the developer setting "Allow OEM unlocking". It's a switch. If it's off, turn it on and you'll be able to unlock the BL
2. If that doesn't work, check if your phone is a retail model. If not, you're out of luck.
3. If it is retail and you can't unlock it, you are either providing the wrong unlock code to fastboot, or you have an unlockable cid, in which case you're also out of luck.
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Forgot to mention this, if your device has a mediatek CPU/SoC, forget about it, they're impossible to unlock too.
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I found the cid list: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTOROLA-Android-Developer/Bootloader-Unlock-Problems/m-p/3222809
freeZbies said:
Well, I can think of a few reasons why you can't unlock your bootloader.
1. The most obvious one: you haven't enabled OEM unlocking under developer settings.
2. You're not using a retail device. Only retail devices can unlock BL AFAIK. Non-retail devices are those sold by carriers (AT&T, Verizon, whatever else).
3. Your bootloader is not unlockable, even if its retail.
The 1st problem is easy to solve and I won't discuss it.
The other two are stored as variables on your bootloader and can be checked with the "fastboot getvar [x]" command, where [x] is the variable name.
The variables of interest here are:
1. "ro.build.version.full" - this tells if device is retail or not. It should return something like "retail.en.US" or "retail.xx.XX", depends on region.
2. "cid" - I have no idea cid stands for, but I think it's related to bootloader type.
3. Be aware that I don't know if the 1st variable has the same name on all motorola devices. In case of doubt, use "fastboot getvar all" to list all variables, then you can check manually.
Nowadays, it's not common for Motorola devices to have locked cids. In Lollipop/Marshmallow days, some devices had that issue where it was retail but impossible to unlock due to cid. The un-unlockable cids should be the same for all devices but you'll have to research, I don't remember which is which anymore.
SUMMARY:
1. check the developer setting "Allow OEM unlocking". It's a switch. If it's off, turn it on and you'll be able to unlock the BL
2. If that doesn't work, check if your phone is a retail model. If not, you're out of luck.
3. If it is retail and you can't unlock it, you are either providing the wrong unlock code to fastboot, or you have an unlockable cid, in which case you're also out of luck.
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Forgot to mention this, if your device has a mediatek CPU/SoC, forget about it, they're impossible to unlock too.
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I found the cid list: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTOROLA-Android-Developer/Bootloader-Unlock-Problems/m-p/3222809
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Thanks for all the info.
1. I liked that you mentioned the "OEM Unlocking" switch, but I'm not a total dummy, it's turned on lol.
2. I don't believe that my model is one of those sold by carriers, at least afaik.
3. I will try to get the variables and look it up, but I'm feeling that I'm out of luck already.
It's the Qualcomm version of the One Fusion+
1Apokalypsis said:
Thanks for all the info.
1. I liked that you mentioned the "OEM Unlocking" switch, but I'm not a total dummy, it's turned on lol.
2. I don't believe that my model is one of those sold by carriers, at least afaik.
3. I will try to get the variables and look it up, but I'm feeling that I'm out of luck already.
It's the Qualcomm version of the One Fusion+
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If it's the qualcomm version and it doesn't unlock it must be bc it must be either bc it is not retail or cid. If you're using a retail phone and cid is unlockable then keep trying/check unlock code/try asking for it again, whatever, it should work.
I am sure if you have found this forum, you are also looking for the ability to root the LG K92. Unfornatuely, it looks like as it stands currently there is no known way to root the K92.
There was one glimmer of hope on another thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/root-aquired.4253159/ but it looks like that may have been a dead end as well.
Am I understanding, unless there is a exploit to gain root access from the Android 10 OS, the only possible way would be to get the bootloader unlocked. I have a K929AM (LG K92 from AT&T) and, as I am sure you already know, LG does not have that on the supported list for bootloader unlocking. In fact, it looks like all of the K series phones do not have bootloader unlocking supported. When you try to boot to Bootloader, it boots into the OS and if you boot to fastboot, you get fastbootd where the OEM unlock does not even appear to work.
According to https://lgk20.com/lg-k92-5g-root-bootloader-unlock-twrp-custom-rom-lmk920am/ (scroll to the bottom) we would expect to see a "bootloader unlock page" but I am not even sure if the LG K92 has one of these and, even if it does, if it would be accessible.
Does anyone have any suggestions on any unsupported methods on how to unlock the bootloader on this phone? I would be happy to test anything at this point. If we can somehow figure this out, this method may work on other K-series devices which would be a big win. So far, the only menus I can access are FASTBOOTD and Download Mode.
To add to this, it looks like it is possible to access the Bootloader (bootloader unlock page) from the LG K20. https://lgk20.com/lg-k20-plus-unlock-bootloader-metropcs-mp260-t-mobile-tp260/2/
I am wondering if it is possible to somehow force the K92 into this menu even if short circuiting something on the board.
Anyone have any ideas?
Question in title, so far I cannot found anything to solve this problem, not to mention Nokia does not offer official bootloader unlocking
Perhaps @hikari_calyx knows
mingkee said:
Perhaps @hikari_calyx knows
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are you actually sure? like, Nokia just doesn't let you unlock their phones' bootloader, plus he doesn''t have my device, so how is he able to develop a tool to unlock it?
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are you actually sure? like, Nokia just doesn't let you unlock their phones' bootloader, and I actually asked someone on Discord if there's another way, and they said I need to use the EDL tool with a flash file that contains an unlock key, but both I (and they) do not know how to make the file
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The poster found a patch of bootloader and I used it to unlock 8.3 bootloader and eventually rooted it.
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The poster found a patch of bootloader and I used it to unlock 8.3 bootloader and eventually rooted it.
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cool, but there's no support for the Nokia X10, it's just released last June, and the poster might not support my phone
mingkee said:
The poster found a patch of bootloader and I used it to unlock 8.3 bootloader and eventually rooted it.
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Well, apparently they do not support my model (which is the X10). Their tool can only detect the phone, not unlock its bootloader
Well, Nokia/HMD wants to have their phones and tablets deadlocked, and 8.3 is my only and final Nokia Android phone.
No more.
Good Morning,
I have arrived at this thread looking for how to unlock the bootloader of my Nokia X10/X20 for later rooting it.
It seems that there is no way to do it.
To do Root I have found this link (is in Spanish): https://www.ayudaroot.com/root/nokia/como-hacer-root-al-nokia-x10/
The option «Enable OEM unlocking», comes in gray and is not accessible, with which I have not been able to apply this solution.
I have found this other article: How to Unlock Bootloader on Any Nokia Smartphone.
Someone has tried?
If the answer is affirmative, does it work?
If nobody has tried it, do you think it can work?
All the best
gonzo1963 said:
Good Morning,
I have arrived at this thread looking for how to unlock the bootloader of my Nokia X10/X20 for later rooting it.
It seems that there is no way to do it.
To do Root I have found this link (is in Spanish): https://www.ayudaroot.com/root/nokia/como-hacer-root-al-nokia-x10/#comment-41075
The option «Enable OEM unlocking», comes in gray and is not accessible, with which I have not been able to apply this solution.
I have found this other article: How to Unlock Bootloader on Any Nokia Smartphone.
Someone has tried?
If the answer is affirmative, does it work?
If nobody has tried it, do you think it can work?
All the best
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Nope, the "buying unlock bootloader keys" (I meant the thing in the "How to Unlock Bootloader on Any Nokia Smartphone" article, the official way also does not work anymore, due to the site is dead) way does not work on the Nokia X10/20 (the creators of those keys confirmed with me that it's literally impossible to unlock those phones and potentially any future Nokia phones).
The "Enable OEM unlocking" should not be not accessible, my Nokia X10 does not have that option greyed out.
About the tool used in the Spanish site? I'm not so sure about whether it will work or not. The tutorial video shows a different phone, but it seems so legit. Try it at your own risk, I guess.
AltFantasy said:
Nope, the "buying unlock bootloader keys" (I meant the thing in the "How to Unlock Bootloader on Any Nokia Smartphone" article, the official way also does not work anymore, due to the site is dead) way does not work on the Nokia X10/20 (the creators of those keys confirmed with me that it's literally impossible to unlock those phones and potentially any future Nokia phones).
The "Enable OEM unlocking" should not be not accessible, my Nokia X10 does not have that option greyed out.
About the tool used in the Spanish site? I'm not so sure about whether it will work or not. The tutorial video shows a different phone, but it seems so legit. Try it at your own risk, I guess.
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Good morning,
Thank you very much for the answer, but I inform you:
My phone is new, just arrived from the provider (Nokia directly).
-Modelo: TA1332.
-Compilation 00WW_1_070.
-Android 11.
-Actualization May 5, 2021
I have not modified anything, and I assure you that the «Enable OEM Unlocking» option, is gray and is not accessible.
A rectification, I think.
The link in Spanish: https://www.ayudaroot.com/root/nokia/como-hacer-root-al-nokia-x10/#comment-41075
In the article, not in the video; It refers to a Qualcomm chip, but requires that the "Enable OEM Unlocking" option is unlocked.
Three questions apart:
1.- Is there any way to root this smartphone?
2.- Is this option valid to make a backup of the ROM?: [Tutorial] How to use Miracle Box to backup Qualcomm Android firmware
3.- And is it to restore the ROM?: [Tutorial] How to use Miracle Box / Thunder to flash firmware to Qualcomm devices
All the best
gonzo1963 said:
Good morning,
Thank you very much for the answer, but I inform you:
My phone is new, just arrived from the provider (Nokia directly).
-Modelo: TA1332.
-Compilation 00WW_1_070.
-Android 11.
-Actualization May 5, 2021
I have not modified anything, and I assure you that the «Enable OEM Unlocking» option, is gray and is not accessible.
A rectification, I think.
The link in Spanish: https://www.ayudaroot.com/root/nokia/como-hacer-root-al-nokia-x10/#comment-41075
In the article, not in the video; It refers to a Qualcomm chip, but requires that the "Enable OEM Unlocking" option is unlocked.
Three questions apart:
1.- Is there any way to root this smartphone?
2.- Is this option valid to make a backup of the ROM?: [Tutorial] How to use Miracle Box to backup Qualcomm Android firmware
3.- And is it to restore the ROM?: [Tutorial] How to use Miracle Box / Thunder to flash firmware to Qualcomm devices
All the best
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Apparently, the creators of the site that sells bootloader unlocking keys for Nokia phones said that you should ignore sites like the Spanish link, because those websites write similar content for every device that exists and just replace the device name and publish it again, then again for another device. But I guess you can try using it and see, I guess?
For the first question, I don't think you can root the phone with Magisk? You need some files inside the ROM file, but there's no ROM files for Nokia X10/20.
For the second and third question, I do not know if the tool even works. I do ask the creators of that site (again), and I quote:
I don't think they will work. The only way to trigger EDL on the device would be to disassemble and then short the testpoint to trigger EDL. But what next? What do you aim to do while in EDL mode?
We do not know which bytes are written on the chip that remembers the unlocked status. So, even in EDL mode, there isn't much that we can tinker and re-write to the device. I am also unsure if the user firmware that hmd ships to the Nokia Care includes EDL programmer, they never did for the Nokia 7.2 (the last Nokia device I really tried to play around with). Without the programmer, none of the EDL flash tools will work and we can't load just any programmer. It has to be signed by the OEM. A wrong/invalid/modified firehose programmer can put the device into a non-recoverable state.
HMD hasn't done much magic into making the phones more appealing to the buyers. But they have money and time to make more mess behind the scenes to make their devices more secure (which they think is better).
Sorry for the rant, but there's no meaningful ways to unlock the Nokia X10/20 and possibly any forthcoming phone.
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In conclusion: It's impossible, but you can try? (Try it at your own risk of course, you could brick the whole thing, and nothing will fix it.) I do not even know if it's possible or not, so... eh?
gonzo1963 said:
Good morning,
Thank you very much for the answer, but I inform you:
My phone is new, just arrived from the provider (Nokia directly).
-Modelo: TA1332.
-Compilation 00WW_1_070.
-Android 11.
-Actualization May 5, 2021
I have not modified anything, and I assure you that the «Enable OEM Unlocking» option, is gray and is not accessible.
A rectification, I think.
The link in Spanish: https://www.ayudaroot.com/root/nokia/como-hacer-root-al-nokia-x10/#comment-41075
In the article, not in the video; It refers to a Qualcomm chip, but requires that the "Enable OEM Unlocking" option is unlocked.
Three questions apart:
1.- Is there any way to root this smartphone?
2.- Is this option valid to make a backup of the ROM?: [Tutorial] How to use Miracle Box to backup Qualcomm Android firmware
3.- And is it to restore the ROM?: [Tutorial] How to use Miracle Box / Thunder to flash firmware to Qualcomm devices
All the best
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Also, next time you buy a phone, just go buy a Samsung/Xiaomi or whatever brand that do support unlocking their phones' bootloader and pray that the phone you bought in the future got tons of custom ROMs ported to it or something, Nokia thinks that locking their phones' bootloader will make those phones more secure, which is purely bull****. If you ABSOLUTELY have to buy a Nokia phone however, go buy an older one, cause the site with unlock keys only support those old phones, and it might be impossible to even unlock new phones coming from Nokia in the future.
AltFantasy said:
Also, next time you buy a phone, just go buy a Samsung/Xiaomi or whatever brand that do support unlocking their phones' bootloader and pray that the phone you bought in the future got tons of custom ROMs ported to it or something, Nokia thinks that locking their phones' bootloader will make those phones more secure, which is purely bull****. If you ABSOLUTELY have to buy a Nokia phone however, go buy an older one, cause the site with unlock keys only support those old phones, and it might be impossible to even unlock new phones coming from Nokia in the future.
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Good afternoon,
Thank you very much for all the information you have given me.
It has no solution, I bought an X10 and an X20, because they have Android One and will have updates for 3 years.
I thought I could unlock it and do root, and I see that it is impossible or it is very difficult.
All the best
gonzo1963 said:
Good afternoon,
Thank you very much for all the information you have given me.
It has no solution, I bought an X10 and an X20, because they have Android One and will have updates for 3 years.
I thought I could unlock it and do root, and I see that it is impossible or it is very difficult.
All the best
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Wait, you bought both? Well, if you're trying to root them, then too bad, it's literally impossible. But if you're just using both phones normally, I would say: They're actually pretty good! The specs are great for medium gaming, the build quality is really nice, the cameras are not bad honestly. They're slightly overpriced, but they felt nice enough to use daily. Too bad Nokia ruined these phones with the bootloader unlocking problem though, and I swear I'll never buy a Nokia again, cause of this problem, even though they might be one of the best phones I've ever used.
Good evening,
I have tried to do what they explain in the article in Spanish: https://www.ayudaroot.com/root/nokia/como-hacer-root-al-nokia-x10/ and it has been impossible to do anything.
I have found the following problems:
1.- The option "Enable OEM unlocking", comes in gray and is not accessible on the smartphone.
2.- You can not extract the "boot.img" file, because at the link that explains how to do it: https://www.ayudaroot.com/actualizar/alternativa-para-conseguir-la-rom-de-un-telefono-movil/ do not explain how to do it for this smartphone, which is "Qualcomm", not "MTK"; with which it is impossible to extract it.
3.- The "Qualcomm" and «ADB» drivers that are installed with the application are not worth connecting the Nokia X10 to the computer, I had to uninstall them so that the computer itself detects the smartphone.
4.- You can not unlock the bootloader in the way they explain it, so nothing can be done.
5.- The video of the end still confuses more, it is not for this smartphone or a similar one.
Therefore, the item is not useful.
Better forget it and not waste time.
Greetings
gonzo1963 said:
Good evening,
I have tried to do what they explain in the article in Spanish: https://www.ayudaroot.com/root/nokia/como-hacer-root-al-nokia-x10/ and it has been impossible to do anything.
I have found the following problems:
1.- The option "Enable OEM unlocking", comes in gray and is not accessible on the smartphone.
2.- You can not extract the "boot.img" file, because at the link that explains how to do it: https://www.ayudaroot.com/actualizar/alternativa-para-conseguir-la-rom-de-un-telefono-movil/ do not explain how to do it for this smartphone, which is "Qualcomm", not "MTK"; with which it is impossible to extract it.
3.- The "Qualcomm" and «ADB» drivers that are installed with the application are not worth connecting the Nokia X10 to the computer, I had to uninstall them so that the computer itself detects the smartphone.
4.- You can not unlock the bootloader in the way they explain it, so nothing can be done.
5.- The video of the end still confuses more, it is not for this smartphone or a similar one.
Therefore, the item is not useful.
Better forget it and not waste time.
Greetings
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Weird, my OEM unlocking is not greyed out.
jukyO said:
Weird, my OEM unlocking is not greyed out.
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mine too, but then it's a useless feature anyway, cause Nokia does not let anyone to unlock its phones' bootloaders
jukyO said:
Weird, my OEM unlocking is not greyed out.
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AltFantasy said:
mine too, but then it's a useless feature anyway, cause Nokia does not let anyone to unlock its phones' bootloaders
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Good Morning,
After installing all security updates, it has also been made accessible.
It is no longer gray, but it does not work for nothing, since there is no way to unlock it.
Regards
gonzo1963 said:
Good Morning,
After installing all security updates, it has also been made accessible.
It is no longer gray, but it does not work for nothing, since there is no way to unlock it.
Regards
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also, I think you should try contacting their customer service, and hope that they'll accept or something. If not, keep on annoying them with the "Can you unlock my phones' bootloaders?" question, and see if they will answer or not.
Hey brothers , am a random guy looking forward to get my brand new Nokia x10 soon. And according to all paragraphs I read above it seems the main thing I need from this device apart from daily usage is inaccessible which it ""unlocking the bootloader"* But am not totally sure if it's still impossible because it's almost a year since you're conversing and it seemed to be impossible according to what I've looked at in your Conversations. Back to the topic- I got a Nokia service-center in my area here so I need your advise if I'll be able to take there the Nokia x10 and they unlock the bootloader "Incase I buy it" on their end because there have access to everything I assume whereas they're working for Nokia but it looks risky for me to get a device before am sure if it'll go up with what I need from it.......In conclusion if any of you knows a method to unlock the bootloader currently "because it's almost a year when it was impossible". You may advise me before making the mistake I'll regret. Goodnight
I cannot find ANYTHING on Google telling me if I can unlock the bootloader of the Nord N20. And I also cannot find anything that tells me if I have to wait an amount of time or if I need to have a service plan before unlocking bootloader.
Could anyone tell me what pre-requisites I need to fulfil before I can unlock bootloader if its possible if you buy directly from the OnePlus website. I don't feel like buying the phone, waiting for it to arrive, try to unlock bootloader, then; "Surprise!!! You can't do this until you owned the phone for X number of months. r/FYouInParticular"
Kentazi said:
I cannot find ANYTHING on Google telling me if I can unlock the bootloader of the Nord N20. And I also cannot find anything that tells me if I have to wait an amount of time or if I need to have a service plan before unlocking bootloader.
Could anyone tell me what pre-requisites I need to fulfil before I can unlock bootloader if its possible if you buy directly from the OnePlus website. I don't feel like buying the phone, waiting for it to arrive, try to unlock bootloader, then; "Surprise!!! You can't do this until you owned the phone for X number of months. r/FYouInParticular"
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Start by going to TWRP main official website and see if the device you want to buy is supported first.
TeamWin - TWRP
This is the Team Win website and the official home of TWRP! Here you will find the list of officially supported devices and instructions for installing TWRP on those devices.
twrp.me
If your device is supported, it usually means the bootloader can also be unlocked
immortalwon said:
Start by going to TWRP main official website and see if the device you want to buy is supported first.
TeamWin - TWRP
This is the Team Win website and the official home of TWRP! Here you will find the list of officially supported devices and instructions for installing TWRP on those devices.
twrp.me
If your device is supported, it usually means the bootloader can also be unlocke
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I know for a fact that it can have its boot loader unlocked. I just dont know if I would have to wait a certain amount of months or have a phone plan for a certain amount of time before its available
Kentazi said:
I know for a fact that it can have its boot loader unlocked. I just dont know if I would have to wait a certain amount of months or have a phone plan for a certain amount of time before its available
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If you buy it directly from OnePlus
You do not need to wait for X amount of days.
Just enter the phone, enable developer options, turn on adb debugging, turn on oem unlocking, get adb, type in adb reboot fastboot.
Then type fastboot oem unlock.
Only time you have to wait is if you bought phone carrier phone. Unlocked by factory means no limitations. So from OnePlus means you can do it as soon as you received the phone. If from T-mobile or other carrier, then limited to time of service started. I bought a Nord N200 and it unlocked bootloader as I found how online. BestBuy sells factory unlocked phones. So, right now I own and use this N20, but have not tried unlocking the bootloader but am sure it will if I wanted to. So, it should be same if you bought straight from OnePlus. I just like having security updates. Where you get less updates by rooting, or you have to manually update yourself.