Hi, I'm having an issue with battery drain during phone call. The battery meter consistently shows audio phone calls as "screen on" and drains battery exactly as if the screen was on, even though the screen is off during the call, with a headset being used. Same issue regardless of LTE or wifi-calling. Audio calls on whatsapp and google hangouts (again with screen off throughout) always shows as 50% screen on/50% background.
Is this normal for iphone? Very frustrating as I am used to making long phone calls on android with very little battery drain!
Obviously it's being misreported which can happen but it's suspicious.
Possibly could be malware... iPhones aren't malware proof. Social apps elevate the risk level.
WhatsApp is malware or close enough... I won't let it FB or any social media apps run on my devices. If I can't completely access it by browser alone, I don't go there.
I would take out the trash and go from there.
Use the native phone app instead.
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Hello everyone, I have a few questions / issues regarding this phone and android in general, here it goes:
Voice Talk: what are the differences between the two apps (the one with the green and the one with the blue background colors)? They seem to do the same things to me.
Energy saving: the energy saving implementation doesn't seem too "smart" to me. I'm cool with setting reduced energy configurations like lower brightness and turning off bluetooth etc when the battery treshold kicks in, but I'd expect it to restore my setup once the battery level goes above the treshold again. Atm I have to manually undo all the changes that the battery saving functionality does, basically once a day. Isn't there a "smarter" app that restores my settings before the energy saving mode kicks in?
The battery: I've streamed 30 min of music from the device to my car's bluetooth stereo, and it removed 26% of the battery charge. I'm on fw KE2 cause it seems that KE7 is even worse when it comes to power consumption. Still, isn't it too much?
Volume: I've turned it all the way up both with the side button and inside settings -> sounds (all 4 of them). Still, if someone in my office is talking I miss a sms reception etc. It never happened to me when I had the 5800 express music, so I'm not deaf
App notifications: I left my phone near my bed, there is at least 3 out of 4 bars of 3G signal, facebook is set on 30 min updates, accuweather on 3 hours, info-costs every hour, the phone never turned off nor lost the 3g coverage, yet it missed completely or partially a LOT of updates
App settings: app settings also seem a bit random. I have an app called noLed to show led notifications on the screen when it's locked. I had enabled it, checked the "start noled after phone reboot" and all, and even if the phone never even rebooted, after a day or two I went it and the first checkbox (activate NoLed) was misteriously turned off...
Thanks everyone,
TD
tylerdurden83 said:
Hello
What are the differences between Maps,
Maps are MAPPING Latitude Is a precise location for locating friends in the nearby location and Navigator? Voice guided navigation walking driving ..
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JJEgan said:
tylerdurden83 said:
Hello
What are the differences between Maps,
Maps are MAPPING Latitude Is a precise location for locating friends in the nearby location and Navigator? Voice guided navigation walking driving ..
jje
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Not that I'm not following your logic, it just seems kinda silly to have 3 apps for doing something that 1 app would be enough to do. For example, it's like having Street View as another external application, even thought it's just clearly a Maps "add-on".
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Yes true but a lot of users are incapable of using stuff that requires effort and need big shiny widgets and hand holding .
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Some GS2 issues / questions
Hello everyone, I have a few questions / issues regarding this phone and android in general, here it goes:
Voice Talk: what are the differences between the two apps (the one with the green and the one with the blue background colors)? They seem to do the same things to me.
Energy saving: the energy saving implementation doesn't seem too "smart" to me. I'm cool with setting reduced energy configurations like lower brightness and turning off bluetooth etc when the battery treshold kicks in, but I'd expect it to restore my setup once the battery level goes above the treshold again. Atm I have to manually undo all the changes that the battery saving functionality does, basically once a day. Isn't there a "smarter" app that restores my settings before the energy saving mode kicks in?
The battery: I've streamed 30 min of music from the device to my car's bluetooth stereo, and it removed 26% of the battery charge. I'm on fw KE2 cause it seems that KE7 is even worse when it comes to power consumption. Still, isn't it too much?
Volume: I've turned it all the way up both with the side button and inside settings -> sounds (all 4 of them). Still, if someone in my office is talking I miss a sms reception etc. It never happened to me when I had the 5800 express music, so I'm not deaf
App notifications: I left my phone near my bed, there is at least 3 out of 4 bars of 3G signal, facebook is set on 30 min updates, accuweather on 3 hours, info-costs every hour, the phone never turned off nor lost the 3g coverage, yet it missed completely or partially a LOT of updates
App settings: app settings also seem a bit random. I have an app called noLed to show led notifications on the screen when it's locked. I had enabled it, checked the "start noled after phone reboot" and all, and even if the phone never even rebooted, after a day or two I went it and the first checkbox (activate NoLed) was misteriously turned off...
Thanks everyone,
TD
I'm particularly interested in a response to the energy saving that is stock on the sgs2.
However what i want to know is if the energy saving is active, or whether 'energy saving enabled' simply means it is ready to cut in when battery gets down to set target.
Any response to the above questions would be appreciated.
Ta in advance.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
I don't think there's any difference between Voice command and Voice talk. Different interface is all I guess?
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I don't think there's any difference between Voice command and Voice talk. Different interface is all I guess?
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Isn't it kinda silly to have two different interfaces for a program I'm not even really supposed to use via its interface, but via voice commands?....
samed1983 said:
I'm particularly interested in a response to the energy saving that is stock on the sgs2.
However what i want to know is if the energy saving is active, or whether 'energy saving enabled' simply means it is ready to cut in when battery gets down to set target.
Any response to the above questions would be appreciated.
Ta in advance.
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As far as I've understood, when it says 'energy saving enabled' in the notification panel it just means that the feature is turned on, but it doesn't necessarely mean that it's gone into 'energy saving mode' already.
My issue with it remains, I don't want it to disable account sync, bluetooth, turn down the brightness etc, and the day after, once the phone is recharged, I have to re-enable all of them...
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Isn't it kinda silly to have two different interfaces for a program I'm not even really supposed to use via its interface, but via voice commands?....
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Got it figured out.
Voice command is for when you're sitting down or something and can give the phone your total attention, while Voice talk is for when you're driving or something.
In Voice talk you can enable 'driving mode', which reads out and incoming texts and numbers of the phone which is calling you.
Even with that disabled, you can just say 'Hi Galaxy' or 'Hey Galaxy' and it will start listening to your commands.
(useful while you're just driving and don't want to be distracted by having to hold down the home button (ahem iPhone) or tap the Tap to speak button)
Still a bit redundant (why not just have voice talk?) but at least there's a difference
I now see what you mean about sync being disabled after leaving power saving mode.
Had a scout about and can't find a solution to this.
Anyone have a solution because this is very annoying.
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I'm a bit puzzled by the battery life. I mean, afterall they advertise the various components of the gs2 as battery saving (for example the actually turned off pixels of the super amoled, or the dual core).
So, by logic, if the more advanced parts of it are energy saving compared to other less advanced models, why isn't it consuming less battery?....
Any more info?
I have a new question, is it normal under KE2 that the wi fi can't catch the signals almost al all?
At university I couldn't even detect the network, while the guy next to me with an iphone4 had full signal strength. On the train I had 1 line and it kept disconnecting, while my mate with the nokia 5800 express had no issue with it.
Even at my house going from my desk where the router is to my bed right in front of it, it already starts to drop significantly.
Another issue that I've noticed is that sometimes even tho there is 3g coverage the apps won't refresh. For example, AccuWeather hasnt refreshed since the day before, or manually firing a refresh of the contacts in my WhatsApp list ends in a "update failed, try again later" message, but after rebooting the phone it magically works right away...
What app (not just category but actual app) do you find is the biggest drain on your battery?
I get about 12 hours on a full charge and see about a 1% drain every 5-7 minutes!
I am about to put a new ROM on my Note and since I tend to run it loaded with apps that I collect, I was wondering if anyone has a list of biggest amp-drainers.
Some apps have settings that let you modify their behavior (K9 Mail comes to mind) but settings can be a bit confusing when it comes to balancing utility to power drain.
So...that being said...
Give me a list of apps that you run that you know kill your battery anyway some that are so stingy they get the Android Scrooge Award for battery use.
Also...
what are some of your best general power-saving tips for power-users?
Use a black background.
Turn off all your radios if you're not using them.
Leave your GPS off and just use WiFi for locations if you need to. If you don't use locations, turn them off.
Anything with a light background will drain your battery quicker on an AMOLED. Always use black wherever you can.
Never let your battery go below 20% charge.
Don't use a task killer - it was necessary for the older versions of Android, it's not now.
Set your Facebook/Twitter/Weather/Stocks etc. to sync every 3, 6 or 12 hours, as opposed to instantly (I still sync mail instantly).
These are a few of my runtime-prolonging tips. As for apps, anything that pulls data, displays a lot of white or moving pictures, uses a radio/GPS, and runs constantly will be the biggest drain. Things like turning off notifications in Tapatalk/XDA etc. can save you a lot of juice.
If you want to know exactly what is going on with your battery, you can look in the settings to see what exactly is draining the battery (sorry, I cant remember exactly offhand where it is).
Personally, I use an app called Battery Widget Pro by 3c that gives me more information than I ever wanted to know about exactly what is going on with my battery (just look at the screenshots on the market).
For me, the biggest drainer is the screen and phone calls but I only have a few apps installed.
All of those are good, and I want to add that under advanced in Wifi, there is an option to turn off Wifi during sleep mode.
Usually it is three choices, Always on, On when charging only, and off.
Make sure to turn it off during sleep if you don't need it. That can be a battery drainer as well.
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All of those are good, and I want to add that under advanced in Wifi, there is an option to turn off Wifi during sleep mode.
Usually it is three choices, Always on, On when charging only, and off.
Make sure to turn it off during sleep if you don't need it. That can be a battery drainer as well.
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Do keep in mind tho that rogue apps or those that are scheduled to perform network activities will fall back to cellular data if wifi is off.
BeyondPod is one such app, I have it on a schedule to download new podcasts at certain times of the day and if wifi is off, it will use cellular data if available. However, BeyondPod does have an option to only download on Wifi, but not all apps offer this.
Hi Guys,
I have recently installed whatsapp on my HTC Titan, - its a great app, has drastically reduced my international call and text cost.
How ever the battery life of my phone is taking a huge hit. i am talking about 7 hours total from full charge - when i engage in continuous chatting on the app.
Is anyone experiencing any similar issues? - will be grateful if any one can help figure out the reason for the drain
Cheers
JP
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Hi Guys,
I have recently installed whatsapp on my HTC Titan, - its a great app, has drastically reduced my international call and text cost.
How ever the battery life of my phone is taking a huge hit. i am talking about 7 hours total from full charge - when i engage in continuous chatting on the app.
Is anyone experiencing any similar issues? - will be grateful if any one can help figure out the reason for the drain
Cheers
JP
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Yes, this is because Whatsapp is continiously checking for new messages using your cellular connection. This means the modem is ALWAYS engaged, and you're practially always connected.
Some random website gave call time spec: Up to 6 h 50 min (3G)
This seems about right with your battery usage.
Being connected with 3g basically counts as talk time, Since the mic and speaker are the least of your worries battery consumtion wise.
Normal synchronisation like email is set at 30 minute (customizable) intervals.
This saves a lot of battery power.
Basically, this goes for any app that uses a continious internet connection (e.g. browser, ad supported app, online navigation, chat.)
Note that in some research a while ago someone tested battery usage in games, and it turns out that displaying ads uses more power than running the game itself (assuming the game is off-line).
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/people/mzh/eurosys-2012.pdf
Whatsapp is one of those apps that uses continious internet connection.
Also recieving email's "as they arrive" also drains power. So does facebook/messenger chat and any app that refreshes their data in the background frequently OR that is ad supported.
I'm using whatsapp, receiving messages during all the day and my battery stands with no problem until night, 16-18 hours. I think that the battery problem is more related with the time you are writing messages, with the screen, our huge screen, on.
I have had Whatsapp on since day 1 and never had any issues with battery and Whatsapp.
If you do continous chat for 6-7 hours I think your culprit is your screen brightness and CPU that keeps your phone locking and unlocking! I get occassional messages on Whatsapp throughout the day and I manage to reply them whenever I have some spare time. Same with emails.
You can even try anything that will keep your phone "awake" in foreground i.e. keep communicating via emails or e-books with screen on and data on - you will have battery drain.
But same activity on intermittent basis will not cause this drain.
Also, your network coverage - the farther you are from the network masts, the quicker you will drain your phone. Sadly we can't do much about it unless you live in a super-connected area.
@jpmalum: are you using push notifications?
@kpn: actually, WP7 has a completely different background processing policy compared to Android. Incoming notifications flow through MS's push notification service which greatly reduces network access. Periodic polling by apps is restricted to intervals of 15 minutes minimum, and device wakeups for different apps are coalesced to avoid each of them generating its own 3G tail like on Android.
Also, KPN should really fix their network settings, tail times on the KPN network are ridiculous, the modem stays in FACH for up to a full minute! I am aware that this is probably better for browsing but come on, a _minute_, really?
I have some power traces from a Galaxy Nexus with a background process doing some network stuff once per 5 minutes. On KPN, the app uses 277.59J/hour, versus 182.05J/hour and 205.47J/hour on TMobile and Vodafone respectively. The difference is not due to signal strength, but comes purely from tail time. Hopefully fast dormancy and the new enhanced FACH state will fix this in the future, but they require carrier support to work.
(full disclosure, I'm a PhD student doing research on mobile phones)
So I just need a way to tap the phone once or twice when it sits in the holster while I'm driving and call/text via voice. I really don't need all kinds of extra crap like searching and launching music players, my phone is 95% for business and I am driving most of the time while on the phone (and have no internet connection).
Is S Voice the best option? I'm fine to keep using it, but just checking if there are better alternatives. I suppose my main concern is the battery drain of S Voice but I'm not sure if that's valid, if it is a drain or not, that's just from reading anecdotal posts around here and other forums.
Thanks for any help!
When driving s voice works for me for texts and calls, though with one issue. I use a motorolla bluetooth fm transmitter and drive a noisy diesel van, so the mike has a bit of trouble picking me up perfectly. sometimes it gets it right, sometimes wrong. Though this is mostly with the message of texts. Getting the right contact or dialing the right contact seems to work ok. But it only gets the message right half the time. Just the noisy van interferring there. If I do it just with the phone it gets it right most of the time.
I haven't tried anything like vlingo with it, but really s voice is just vlingo isn't it? With my old s1 things like speaktoit, etc etc worked ok but certainly no better.
Thanks for your feedback! I suppose I am just curious about battery drain, especially since in the S Voice settings for wake up command it even says so right there (that it will cause battery drain).
I have no experience with this stuff really, but I don't think battery drain would be too much of an issue. I mean, s voice is not running spill the time. Only when you double tap the home button, or, like me, have it set to wake up on the lock screen. It doesn't seem to be running permanently in the background.
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My Samsung S3 battery goes from fully charged to "low battery" often before I get home from work. I just put up with it because troubleshooting Android is such a pain even with Better Battery Stats.
But by exceeding my data quota this month I see exactly what the problem is. Android 4.3 disabled data last night because I went over my quota.
It is now 6:02PM and my battery is at 82% when it would usually be at 5% by now. I still used my phone almost exactly the same amount as I have a desktop at work. My battery usually goes down to 5% just doing nothing in my pocket and making a few calls and texts and some music listening.
My poor battery life is due to all the data transfer bull Google is doing in the background every day.
Better battery stats can identify the process like Bam_dmux or fast dormancy, but it doesn't tell you which apps are actually calling the wakelock.
If Android did keep proper track of this I am sure many apps would be deleted (including Google Apps) from phone in a instant.
But it is too much trouble to try to figure out which one it is so we just put up with 6 hour standby battery life when the manufacturer claims 72 hours.
What a mess ..... I am going to have to research "restrict background data" now to waste more of my time.
Looking at Data Usage in setting doesn't help much because it only tells how much not how often
HaHaHaHa: Google Search on = android "restrict background data" gives 192,000 hits
Does anyone know a good site or method to do this?
Fixed Battery Issue
Well I managed to solve my battery problems at least until the next round of updates.
Previously ..... Galaxy S3 goes from full battery to empty by about 4:00PM in the workday ... mostly phone is sitting in my pocket. No surfing, occasional call.
Then I blocked background data for:
1) Play Store (I am tired of useless updates anyway)
2) Medscape
3) MPR
4) EMAIL ( confirmed this does not affect Gmail notifications )
Then Removed Accounts:
1) All associated with Samsung
2) WeChat and program
So only Accounts for Dropbox, Google, Scribd and Whatsup are left
Nothing else changed
It's 10:00PM and I still have 60% battery ..... sometimes getting pissed helps as I have been putting up with this for a month.
Unfortunately I don't know which were the offenders.
Sirandar said:
My Samsung S3 battery goes from fully charged to "low battery" often before I get home from work. I just put up with it because troubleshooting Android is such a pain even with Better Battery Stats.
But by exceeding my data quota this month I see exactly what the problem is. Android 4.3 disabled data last night because I went over my quota.
It is now 6:02PM and my battery is at 82% when it would usually be at 5% by now. I still used my phone almost exactly the same amount as I have a desktop at work. My battery usually goes down to 5% just doing nothing in my pocket and making a few calls and texts and some music listening.
My poor battery life is due to all the data transfer bull Google is doing in the background every day.
Better battery stats can identify the process like Bam_dmux or fast dormancy, but it doesn't tell you which apps are actually calling the wakelock.
If Android did keep proper track of this I am sure many apps would be deleted (including Google Apps) from phone in a instant.
But it is too much trouble to try to figure out which one it is so we just put up with 6 hour standby battery life when the manufacturer claims 72 hours.
What a mess ..... I am going to have to research "restrict background data" now to waste more of my time.
Looking at Data Usage in setting doesn't help much because it only tells how much not how often
HaHaHaHa: Google Search on = android "restrict background data" gives 192,000 hits
Does anyone know a good site or method to do this?
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Day5
Since I made these changes my battery life has been greater than 60% every single night no matter how much I use the phone. Maybe it was WeChat.....
Play Store Issues from the OP
My battery life bliss was cut short by issues with my gmail account and sync probably caused my "restrict background data" on the play store.
Previously restricting background data on Play Store and WeChat improved my battery life from 100%-0 in 8 hours to 100% to 90% in 8 hours
BUT
This seems to cause issues with gmail and Google sync. Neither would work and I had to uninstall and clear data for both to get them working again. It said the sync was "experiencing difficulties".
Uninstalling and reinstalling gmail and play seems to have fixed my battery issues .... even without background data restrictions.
Sirandar said:
My Samsung S3 battery goes from fully charged to "low battery" often before I get home from work. I just put up with it because troubleshooting Android is such a pain even with Better Battery Stats.
But by exceeding my data quota this month I see exactly what the problem is. Android 4.3 disabled data last night because I went over my quota.
It is now 6:02PM and my battery is at 82% when it would usually be at 5% by now. I still used my phone almost exactly the same amount as I have a desktop at work. My battery usually goes down to 5% just doing nothing in my pocket and making a few calls and texts and some music listening.
My poor battery life is due to all the data transfer bull Google is doing in the background every day.
Better battery stats can identify the process like Bam_dmux or fast dormancy, but it doesn't tell you which apps are actually calling the wakelock.
If Android did keep proper track of this I am sure many apps would be deleted (including Google Apps) from phone in a instant.
But it is too much trouble to try to figure out which one it is so we just put up with 6 hour standby battery life when the manufacturer claims 72 hours.
What a mess ..... I am going to have to research "restrict background data" now to waste more of my time.
Looking at Data Usage in setting doesn't help much because it only tells how much not how often
HaHaHaHa: Google Search on = android "restrict background data" gives 192,000 hits
Does anyone know a good site or method to do this?
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