Note: I have edited the subject line to reflect the latest data I have. See post #3 below. It appears that the Tocol screen protector, which many reviews said does not interfere with the fingerprint reader, is the actual culprit
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Downloaded the December update, installed smoothly and I see ZERO improvement in the fingerprint reader success rate. Same symptoms as pre update - the left finger work reasonably well, but the right finger fails massively. Most of the time I just run out of tries and have to enter the PIN to unlock. I have tried defining multiple times, focussing on different areas of the finger, trying to trigger with a full overlap or edge touch, etc. Nothing works consistently. For example, I can get the fingerprint reader to trigger and unlock with the finger placed down a certain way, then I lock the phone and try to place the finger as much as possible in the same location and reader will fail repeatedly.
What gives? This is with the Tocol screen protectors that supposedly do not interfere with fingerprint operation. I am coming to the Pixel 6 from the OP7T where the optical reader works very very well, so there is nothing wrong with my right fingerprint per se. Any suggestions? Have tried this with both low and high touch sensitivity, which should have nothing to do with the optical sensor.
Very disappointed with this phone so far. There are so many people here who report no issues, so I am wondering if there is a hardware sample variation?
GroovyGeek said:
Downloaded the December update, installed smoothly and I see ZERO improvement in the fingerprint reader success rate. Same symptoms as pre update - the left finger work reasonably well, but the right finger fails massively. Most of the time I just run out of tries and have to enter the PIN to unlock. I have tried defining multiple times, focussing on different areas of the finger, trying to trigger with a full overlap or edge touch, etc. Nothing works consistently. For example, I can get the fingerprint reader to trigger and unlock with the finger placed down a certain way, then I lock the phone and try to place the finger as much as possible in the same location and reader will fail repeatedly.
What gives? This is with the Tocol screen protectors that supposedly do not interfere with fingerprint operation. I am coming to the Pixel 6 from the OP7T where the optical reader works very very well, so there is nothing wrong with my right fingerprint per se. Any suggestions? Have tried this with both low and high touch sensitivity, which should have nothing to do with the optical sensor.
Very disappointed with this phone so far. There are so many people here who report no issues, so I am wondering if there is a hardware sample variation?
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That's weird. Mine works great after the mid November update. Did you remove and added the fingerprints again?
Yes, multiple times. I finally decided to pull off the Tocol screen protector and things started working . So much for hundreds of reviews on Amazon stating that it is one of the few that does not interfere with the fingerprint reader.
Anyone has suggestions about screen protectors that do not interfere with the Pixel 6 fingerprint reader? I am very rough on my phones and without a screen protector the screen will be all dinged up by keys or other things in my pockets within weeks.
GroovyGeek said:
Yes, multiple times. I finally decided to pull off the Tocol screen protector and things started working . So much for hundreds of reviews on Amazon stating that it is one of the few that does not interfere with the fingerprint reader.
Anyone has suggestions about screen protectors that do not interfere with the Pixel 6 fingerprint reader? I am very rough on my phones and without a screen protector the screen will be all dinged up by keys or other things in my pockets within weeks.
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Im using the URSOQ one from Amazon. Works great so far
Here is a list of "approved" screen protectors
Google lists Pixel 7 and 6 screen protectors certified to work with fingerprint sensor
Google has a list of certified brands that make screen protectors for Pixel 6, 6 Pro, 6a, 7, and 7 Pro's under-display fingerprint sensor...
9to5google.com
The Otterbox one can be ordered from Best Buy with free shipping and 5 day delivery.
I have a Mr. Shield tempered glass glass protector and the fingerprint sensor works reasonbly well. Making sure your skin is not dry is very helpful.
im using a Spigen screen protector. I did turn on the extra sensitivity setting but ended up turning it off as it was too sensitive.
My FPR works BUT its no better than before being honest...
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After having figured out that initial learning is the solution for me, it works without any issues.
I use Tocol as well.
Have you tried this?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...n-thats-how-i-got-it-working-finally.4360339/
Do screen protectors actually work as advertised? I used to always have one on and more often than not they cracked at the slightest drop or event. Then I finally said I'm not spending another dime on them since my phone was about ready for an upgrade anyway within 6 months. Sure enough I dropped it a couple of times without a scratch. I never got another one and it's been at least 3 years. Now with FPR an issue perhaps it's not worth it? Just my opinion no need to flame. Are there any studies about the usefulness of them?
I am more concerned about scratches to the screen as hopefully my case protects the screen when dropped. Having said that I have only had a screen protector crack once. I had dropped the phone 4' on concrete. Protector cracked, screen fine.
Back in the day I used foils to protect against scratches.
Nowerdays we use glass protectors on all our phones.
And as my daughter and wife had several impact cracks, I came to the conclusion or illusion, protectors seem to have saved a couple of displays. Sometimes the cracks in the protectors looked like spiderwebs. I am pretty shure thes incidents would have definitely killed display glass.
Totally comes down to personal choice. Some people drop there phones a lot. Some don't.
For me, I'm historically a non dropper but i occasionally put my phone in my pocket and forget there is a key or something else already in there. Thats been the time where I've scratched my screen.
Tool Belt said:
I am more concerned about scratches to the screen as hopefully my case protects the screen when dropped. Having said that I have only had a screen protector crack once. I had dropped the phone 4' on concrete. Protector cracked, screen fine.
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@phupton Yeah I get it and I was in that camp for a long time. But I wonder if the screen would have cracked or that the protector is so fragile it breaks way sooner than the screen would. That's why I'd love to see some studies. As for scratches that's another story of which I'm not sure. I never place my phone in a pocket with anything in it, be it my jeans, sweats, jacket or laptop bag. It's even rare I have a tissue in one of those pockets. So scratches are a non issue for me. (fingers crossed so I don't jinx it) lol
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I'd consider me as a non dropper as well.
And then there was this one day when I forgot about my phone in a suit jacket pocket, put my jacket over a stair railing and my brand new Pixel made its way 2 floors down with a couple of smashing concrete and metal hits in between.
It not only survived, it was flawless. I don't know if the protective glass played a role. Still gave me peace of mind.
It's a similar argument to if you should use a 'clear' filter on a DSLR lens to help protect the lens from scratches
+ When you clean it, you are only risking scratches on the filter, which is relatively cheap to replace
+ It 'feels' you are protecting the lens
+ It also keeps fingermarks and liquids away from the lens
+ It's actually probably easier to clean, being flat
- The filter can make optical reflections and other artifacts worse
- The coatings on the front lens element (the one that's exposed) tend to be very tough anyway
- If the filter gets hit hard enough to break it, shards of glass from it may hit and damage the lens anyway
So just like with screen protectors - pros and cons and personal preferences. No absolute good or bad....
I'm a Nikon and non filter kind of guy.
Looks we are making good progress OT-ing.
v said:
After having figured out that initial learning is the solution for me, it works without any issues.
I use Tocol as well.
Have you tried this?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...n-thats-how-i-got-it-working-finally.4360339/
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Had not tried this specifically but had tried putting a bit of saliva on my fingertips and then wiping them off. Will keep that in mind when the new screen protector arrives. Without a protector the FPR is working great, but knowing myself I am going to scratch the screen with keys or something else within a week of running "naked".
With respect to the protector discussion - I agree that protectors have close to zero benefit when it comes to drops. But I am using them because I am not very careful with my stuff and tend to scratch screens and lenses with keys, letting them slosh around in a pocket on the dashboard of the Jeep, etc. I am running a Spigen Liquid Air case which I have used for many years with many different phones and the design seems to be good enough to protect against drops.
I think you need new fingers.
I use this screen protector fingerprint works great for me. Also it feels a lot like glass in use. Easy installation as well.
Amazon.com
Whats funny is I bought a similar one from rhinoshield that was more expensive and this one works way better. Fingerprint performance was bad with the rhinoshield one. This one works perfect every time.
I'm using whatever tempered glass protector came with my case, my single fingerprint has worked just fine since the November update.
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Has anyone bought an anti glare protector for the screen? I know there is a screen protector topic but they were more focus on just protecting the screen and not about anti glare.
acuralegendz said NuShield anti glare protector was only ok. I rather not pay 25 dollars for an average product.
I also saw link to Lexerd - Viewsonic G Tablet TrueVue Anti-Glare but I havnt heard any reviews on it yet.
I just ordered it yesterday from Amazon, as soon as it's in I'll be happy to let you know.
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I just ordered it yesterday from Amazon, as soon as it's in I'll be happy to let you know.
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I am going to assume that you are talking about the Lexerd - Viewsonic G Tablet TrueVue Anti-Glare. Can you test it in sunlight and indoor light? Thanks a lot
Yes I am, and yes I will be happy to. I don't think it will be here until the end of the week though so will be a few days.
i just installed this screen protector and I must say that the price is ridiculous for the quality.
It makes the screen quality completely grainy. Maybe I have to let it sit for a few hours.
Nice to the touch, has a mat feel. doesn't seem like it effects the touch sensitivity.
the edges are horrible. I can see it lifted all the way around the entire screen and i have no bubbles or dust around the edges but that will change soon. I just hope that as more dust gets trapped under the lifted edges, it doesn't make it worse over time but we will see.
I'm use to the screen protectors where you apply them on like window tints (Body Guardz brand). Had them on my ZuneHD, Droid1, Doid2. All perfect..Lexerd, not even close.
My opinion is that this screen protector should have been 10 dollars. sucks I got the double pack. sigh.
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i just installed this screen protector and I must say that the price is ridiculous for the quality.
It makes the screen quality completely grainy. Maybe I have to let it sit for a few hours.
Nice to the touch, has a mat feel. doesn't seem like it effects the touch sensitivity.
the edges are horrible. I can see it lifted all the way around the entire screen and i have no bubbles or dust around the edges but that will change soon. I just hope that as more dust gets trapped under the lifted edges, it doesn't make it worse over time but we will see.
I'm use to the screen protectors where you apply them on like window tints (Body Guardz brand). Had them on my ZuneHD, Droid1, Doid2. All perfect..Lexerd, not even close.
My opinion is that this screen protector should have been 10 dollars. sucks I got the double pack. sigh.
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Thanks for the review stigmax. That sounds horrible even at 10 dollars. FYI there was a one pack of those protectors but little late to tell you that now.
Yea, I knew about the single pack but thought I could save a few bux with the double. After a few hours of use, my eyes got use to the grainy screen
Temp protector I guess, at least I dont have to worry about scratches: )
What I haven't seen elsewhere is that on the "Thank you for purchasing..." sheet that came with the G Tab, it states: "1. The device may come equipped with two anti glare screen protectors over the screen; which should be removed". Huh? Why two? Why remove them. It doesn't make sense. I assume because there is glare, that mine didn't come with them.
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What I haven't seen elsewhere is that on the "Thank you for purchasing..." sheet that came with the G Tab, it states: "1. The device may come equipped with two anti glare screen protectors over the screen; which should be removed". Huh? Why two? Why remove them. It doesn't make sense. I assume because there is glare, that mine didn't come with them.
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Because at some point there were so many returns (at sears and staples) because of claims of a defective screen which later turn to be some air bubbles trapped under the second layer of the screen protector
I really like my nushield dayvue anti-glare protector. Puts my gtab on par with my xoom visibility wise.
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Anti-Glare
So has anyone found any good Anti-Glare that are not $30? just trying to find a good screen protector and case so I can stand it up and watch movies if need be.
Ever try Photodon?
http://www.photodon.com/p/MXH-5250-01.html seems nice based on their description but wondering if anyone ever tried one.
I ordered this set a couple weeks ago. One is clear and one is anti-glare:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290551331136&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_570wt_1140
They fit the screen perfectly. A little too perfectly actually. It's somewhat difficult to get the protector perfectly straight so that one side or the other doesn't run into the edge of the screen where the edge slightly goes up. I rendered the clear protector relatively useless after attempting to line it up perfectly several times.
Neither of the screen protectors have cut outs for the camera or the light sensor. It doesn't seem to really affect the light sensor, but the anti-glare protector makes the camera pretty much unusable. The camera is fine with the clear protector on.
The reason it makes it unusable is because of how grainy it makes the screen look, and that grain is also visible through the camera. It makes everything blurry. That said, it does a good job of reducing glare as well as a pretty darn good job of cutting down on visible finger prints. I've found that the graininess isn't extremely intrusive for most things. Maybe I've just gotten used to it.
One of the main reasons for purchasing my gTablet was to use it as an eReader for the hundreds of .pdfs I'm required to go through. This is where the grain really becomes troublesome. If it wasn't for the fact that somehow I managed to get the protector on perfectly straight on the first try, I would have already removed it. I'm thinking about ordering another set, cutting out a hole for the camera, and going with the clear protector. I'll make due with some glare here and there and some fingerprints.
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I ordered this set a couple weeks ago. One is clear and one is anti-glare:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290551331136&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_570wt_1140
They fit the screen perfectly. A little too perfectly actually. It's somewhat difficult to get the protector perfectly straight so that one side or the other doesn't run into the edge of the screen where the edge slightly goes up. I rendered the clear protector relatively useless after attempting to line it up perfectly several times.
Neither of the screen protectors have cut outs for the camera or the light sensor. It doesn't seem to really affect the light sensor, but the anti-glare protector makes the camera pretty much unusable. The camera is fine with the clear protector on.
The reason it makes it unusable is because of how grainy it makes the screen look, and that grain is also visible through the camera. It makes everything blurry. That said, it does a good job of reducing glare as well as a pretty darn good job of cutting down on visible finger prints. I've found that the graininess isn't extremely intrusive for most things. Maybe I've just gotten used to it.
One of the main reasons for purchasing my gTablet was to use it as an eReader for the hundreds of .pdfs I'm required to go through. This is where the grain really becomes troublesome. If it wasn't for the fact that somehow I managed to get the protector on perfectly straight on the first try, I would have already removed it. I'm thinking about ordering another set, cutting out a hole for the camera, and going with the clear protector. I'll make due with some glare here and there and some fingerprints.
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I'm curious if you could use a hole puncher to make a hole for the camera? I have not seen this product so I have no idea what it is like or how thick it is but seems like it could be modded with a hole punch if you do the measurements precisely. Anyways, just a thought I had while reading. Thanks for the review.
jetguy35 said:
I'm curious if you could use a hole puncher to make a hole for the camera? I have not seen this product so I have no idea what it is like or how thick it is but seems like it could be modded with a hole punch if you do the measurements precisely. Anyways, just a thought I had while reading. Thanks for the review.
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You know, right before I put mine on, I thought to myself - "Should I run out and get a hole puncher for the camera before I do this? No, it should be fine."
I should have went to get a hole puncher. It would work perfectly.
Happy with my Protector
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So has anyone found any good Anti-Glare that are not $30? just trying to find a good screen protector and case so I can stand it up and watch movies if need be.
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I bought a matte one and a clear one from Aurum, but fit really well, I think you get get both for under $20. The matte reduces glare and the clear one does not distort the screen. Overall was very happy with the product. The Lexard one and those other "wet" applications ones are a pain in the ass, they also prevent your finger from gliding smoothly on the after application. I got them at Amazon here is the link http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...rum+viewsonic&x=0&y=0&sprefix=aurum+viewsonic
NuShield antiglare sheet or DayVue?
Synman said:
I really like my nushield dayvue anti-glare protector. Puts my gtab on par with my xoom visibility wise.
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Just called NuShield, as their site does not work well with IE9 when placing orders, and was told they are currently NOT selling an "antiglare" sheet for the gTablet. They only have their "DayVue" product, which does not have anti-glare feature.
However, if you contact them, they very likely would consider making an anti-glare version as they already have a template for the gTablet.
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I was just looking at their website and it describes the DayVue as anti-reflective. Straight from the website under Viewsonic GTablet.
NuShield DayVue™ antireflective film is the best choice for displays that are being used outdoors. It has good scratch resistance combined with greatly improved daylight readable optics over our antiglare film.
I don't know if they consider anti-glare and anti-reflective to be different, but it seems like the same to me.
ive got an antiglair, it works well and was only 10$ off amazon but if you like using it for videos it kills them, thinking about removing mine but i have a hard time throwing 10$ away
I've used both of these on both my G2s and G3s and want to share my findings. Feel free to share other brands and your results.
I carry my phones two ways. During work, they are in my shirt pockets where the only things rubbing on them are paper and the occasional dollar bills(between 6-14 hours a day). When not working, I place my phones in my front pocket with the screens facing each other. Keys and change will also be in that pocket. When I only have one phone, the screen faces my leg(between 2-4 hours average). I almost always have both phones at the same time.
iLoome Flex: This protector has a hardness rating of 8H. Despite that, it is flexible. I chose this first because I expected the flexibility to help dissipate any force applied to It. It did it's job well. Over a 6 month time period, it never chipped or cracked until I removed it, where it then basically crumbled to pieces during removal. The fit was good, not great. There was a gap around the edges, but that became a moot point once I put on my incipio case. I did not have any lifting issues like others have claimed. Installation was somewhat easy because of a taped hinged installation design to help figure out placement prior to removing the adhesive protection. There was still some difficulty due to it being smaller and trying to center the gaps while aligning the opening for the sensors. The feel of the glass wasn't as smooth as a bare screen and took some adjusting. In the end I preferred this because it allowed me to be more accurate in my selections and typing. I ended up removing it because after 6 months of use, the screen had become scuffed from use., which makes me question the hardness rating. That being said, I prefer the feel of this over a bare screen.
ZAGG: this protector has a hardness rating of 9H. There is very little play in regards to flexibility. The fit of this protector was superior with a very small gap which disappeared once a case was put on. Installation is the same as every other ZAGG protector, but this was the easiest I had ever done. Because of the great fit, it went on the first time and didn't need to squeegeed. Thinking I got lucky, I removed it and tried again with the same result. The feel of the protector is much slicker than the iLoome and dare I say, even the screen. It really feels like there isn't anything there. Since I've used It, however, the slickness has been a problem for me. I make more typing errors and accuracy has gone down the drain. When playing games like clash of clans where I can tap and hold, I get no response because my finger will almost always slide. It takes 2-3 deliberate tries before I get the desired response. In addition, I get A LOT of accidental screen presses from something as simple as scrolling through a page or feed. I have touch tracking on and the accuracy is off while using this protector by a millimeter or two. Sometimes, touches won't even register. This alone is almost enough to make me switch back to iLoome. After only a month, the screen still looks brand New. As for the actual protection, it was accidentally chipped by someone in an environment where it shouldn't have happened. Clearing away the chipped area resulted in smaller chips coming off. Once it was cleaned, it seemed like ther would be no other damage. Later that night, I dropped the phone about 3 1/2 feet flat on it's face. The raised edges of the case kept the screen from actually contacting the concrete. When I examined the phone, there was now a 1 1/2 inch hairline crack coming from the chip. It is barely noticeable and doesn't feel like it's there. No bubbles or lifted areas. I enabled developer options and tested touch across all areas of the chip and crack and found no loss of function and there was full responsiveness. This is still currently on my G3. I plan to keep it on for a while longer to see how it stands up to daily wear and tear.
I'll update as I continue to use the ZAGG and what I decide to use in the long run as well as other protectors I try out. Again, feel free to share your own experiences with these or other glass protectors.
Dropped my phone on its corner today. The crack spread across the screen. Still no effect on usage, but it wasn't a big or hard drop. It seems that once the ZAGG is chipped, it's shot.
I used an iCarez 0.2mm tempered glass screen protector on my G3. It was an easy install in the steamy bathroom and provides pretty good sensitivity, unless my fingers are really dry and cold.
It also smears really bad if your fingers are the least bit oily or greasy. Don't handle the phone after eating buttered popcorn. It claims to be olephobic, but maybe not so much.
Lastly, on my first airline flight with it, it cracked a couple of curves across the lower left. Nothing fell off. iCarez is sending me a replacement, but made sure to tell me that breaking it voids the warranty. It was in my pants pocket when it cracked. I might go with a tough plastic one next.
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I used an iCarez 0.2mm tempered glass screen protector on my G3. It was an easy install in the steamy bathroom and provides pretty good sensitivity, unless my fingers are really dry and cold.
It also smears really bad if your fingers are the least bit oily or greasy. Don't handle the phone after eating buttered popcorn. It claims to be olephobic, but maybe not so much.
Lastly, on my first airline flight with it, it cracked a couple of curves across the lower left. Nothing fell off. iCarez is sending me a replacement, but made sure to tell me that breaking it voids the warranty. It was in my pants pocket when it cracked. I might go with a tough plastic one next.
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Best advice ever! Always forget the steamy bathroom. Really does make a difference!
Have bnib 9h 0.3mm icarez true glass. Got as gift. Probably saving for when I sell the phone. Currently using icarez matte protector. I basically said ok I'll put on the tempered glass as soon as this plastic ones scratches. But no matter what this plastic one is not scratching at all. Kind of funny. What's everyones comment on screen sensitivity? I'm very concerned that using anything other than a regular protector that it's going to significantly decrease sensitivity to touch.
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I don't understand the G3 touch sensitivity at all. Mine seems sometimes to just be untouchable. I mean, like in Ingress, I will sometimes have to really bang on the button several times before it will register a press, then other times it is normal, for the same button. I am not at all sure this has anything to do with the glass protector though. Almost seems like lag.
trent999 said:
I used an iCarez 0.2mm tempered glass screen protector on my G3. It was an easy install in the steamy bathroom and provides pretty good sensitivity, unless my fingers are really dry and cold.
It also smears really bad if your fingers are the least bit oily or greasy. Don't handle the phone after eating buttered popcorn. It claims to be olephobic, but maybe not so much.
Lastly, on my first airline flight with it, it cracked a couple of curves across the lower left. Nothing fell off. iCarez is sending me a replacement, but made sure to tell me that breaking it voids the warranty. It was in my pants pocket when it cracked. I might go with a tough plastic one next.
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Forgot about that. The iLoome smudges like crazy. The ZAGG doesnt.
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I don't understand the G3 touch sensitivity at all. Mine seems sometimes to just be untouchable. I mean, like in Ingress, I will sometimes have to really bang on the button several times before it will register a press, then other times it is normal, for the same button. I am not at all sure this has anything to do with the glass protector though. Almost seems like lag.
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It appears to have the same issue the G2 had at launch. It was fixed with an update.
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I've used both of these on both my G2s and G3s and want to share my findings. Feel free to share other brands and your results.
I carry my phones two ways. During work, they are in my shirt pockets where the only things rubbing on them are paper and the occasional dollar bills(between 6-14 hours a day). When not working, I place my phones in my front pocket with the screens facing each other. Keys and change will also be in that pocket. When I only have one phone, the screen faces my leg(between 2-4 hours average). I almost always have both phones at the same time.
iLoome Flex: This protector has a hardness rating of 8H. Despite that, it is flexible. I chose this first because I expected the flexibility to help dissipate any force applied to It. It did it's job well. Over a 6 month time period, it never chipped or cracked until I removed it, where it then basically crumbled to pieces during removal. The fit was good, not great. There was a gap around the edges, but that became a moot point once I put on my incipio case. I did not have any lifting issues like others have claimed. Installation was somewhat easy because of a taped hinged installation design to help figure out placement prior to removing the adhesive protection. There was still some difficulty due to it being smaller and trying to center the gaps while aligning the opening for the sensors. The feel of the glass wasn't as smooth as a bare screen and took some adjusting. In the end I preferred this because it allowed me to be more accurate in my selections and typing. I ended up removing it because after 6 months of use, the screen had become scuffed from use., which makes me question the hardness rating. That being said, I prefer the feel of this over a bare screen.
ZAGG: this protector has a hardness rating of 9H. There is very little play in regards to flexibility. The fit of this protector was superior with a very small gap which disappeared once a case was put on. Installation is the same as every other ZAGG protector, but this was the easiest I had ever done. Because of the great fit, it went on the first time and didn't need to squeegeed. Thinking I got lucky, I removed it and tried again with the same result. The feel of the protector is much slicker than the iLoome and dare I say, even the screen. It really feels like there isn't anything there. Since I've used It, however, the slickness has been a problem for me. I make more typing errors and accuracy has gone down the drain. When playing games like clash of clans where I can tap and hold, I get no response because my finger will almost always slide. It takes 2-3 deliberate tries before I get the desired response. In addition, I get A LOT of accidental screen presses from something as simple as scrolling through a page or feed. I have touch tracking on and the accuracy is off while using this protector by a millimeter or two. Sometimes, touches won't even register. This alone is almost enough to make me switch back to iLoome. After only a month, the screen still looks brand New. As for the actual protection, it was accidentally chipped by someone in an environment where it shouldn't have happened. Clearing away the chipped area resulted in smaller chips coming off. Once it was cleaned, it seemed like ther would be no other damage. Later that night, I dropped the phone about 3 1/2 feet flat on it's face. The raised edges of the case kept the screen from actually contacting the concrete. When I examined the phone, there was now a 1 1/2 inch hairline crack coming from the chip. It is barely noticeable and doesn't feel like it's there. No bubbles or lifted areas. I enabled developer options and tested touch across all areas of the chip and crack and found no loss of function and there was full responsiveness. This is still currently on my G3. I plan to keep it on for a while longer to see how it stands up to daily wear and tear.
I'll update as I continue to use the ZAGG and what I decide to use in the long run as well as other protectors I try out. Again, feel free to share your own experiences with these or other glass protectors.
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I have the Zagg and just like you I have sensitivity issues to the point I get frustrated at times when it wouldn't respond to my taps and presses. I don't get much smudging but I have nothing to compare it to. I was thinking of getting Spigen's GLAS.tR NANO SLIM protector since it is 0.23 mm thick compared to Zagg's 0.4 mm thickness but the price is pretty steep.
So after experiencing first hand the poor figment of any tempered glass screen protectors I have deiced to create this OP. I have purchased 3 types of plastic screen protectors from amazon to see which if any will be a suitable replacement. I figured if I buy some and they are terrible I can always return them.
1. Mr Shield clear:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OD...416363968&sr=8-1-spell&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70
I had high hopes for these after buying them for my Nexus 9 and having s good experience. The ones for the Nexus 6 are a far different story. The fitting is so poor they cant cover my display. I believe that these were cut very poorly because you can't align them properly to fit even with their tiny size. They have a nice feel and are easy to swipe back and forth on while using the office but if they can't protect my screen then there's no point in having it. (Pictures coming soon)
2. iSmooth:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00O3OSBHI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1416364063&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40
3. icarez: (coming Wednesday)
These looks just the the Mr Shield screen protectors above, except they are packaged better and come with better instructions. The downside is that they are again cut very small. I have learned that this is due to the curved nature that the ends of the display have, but its rather unfortunate that we are left with a screen that can't be fully protected. These also have a better feeling that the Mr. Shield protectors.
4. Spigen Crystal:
http://www.amazon.com/Protector-Spi...533171&sr=8-1&keywords=spigen+crystal+nexus+6
These are the best plastic screen protectors by a long shot. The fit and finish is far superior to any of the other brands that I have tried thus far. They are very thin compared to the other 3 I tried above. The costing allowing your fingers to slide across it with ease for people who prefer the gesture typing. The screen protector does cover the camera, and proximity sensor. Don't let this discourage you because they both work fine on my phone. The fit is much closer to the curves without causing issues. There is a fix for people with proximity sensor issues in the tempered glass OP. I would recommend these to anyone who wants a nice quality screen protector.
Update: from what I have seen, the Spigen is still your best bet. I have a couple as backups and I couldn't be happier. TG has been and still is very hit and miss but you can't go wrong with the Spigen Crystal screen protectors. I have no issues with my proximity sensor for FFC and its the only screen protector I've used since discovering it.
feel free to add your own choices and a brief description about the quality and whether or not you would recommend it.
I got the iSmooth protectors. A little difficult to install, but quite good once they're on. They feel almost like glass, they have a coating on them to prevent fingerprints too.
ryude said:
I got the iSmooth protectors. A little difficult to install, but quite good once they're on. They feel almost like glass, they have a coating on them to prevent fingerprints too.
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This Review differs, http://www.amazon.com/Google-Nexus-...tBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#R1XWOBSF3898N4
What is your opinion?
Cheetohz said:
This Review differs, http://www.amazon.com/Google-Nexus-...tBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#R1XWOBSF3898N4
What is your opinion?
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Pretty sure the cutout isn't for the camera, but the ambient sensor.
i ordered the invisible defenders. should be here tomorrow just ahead of the phone. never used them before as i've always gone with spigen, but since they're not shipping until next week i went with these. from a spec perspective, they sound every bit as good as the spigen crystals. i'll find out tomorrow/friday
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NU7DMC8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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i ordered the invisible defenders. should be here tomorrow just ahead of the phone. never used them before as i've always gone with spigen, but since they're not shipping until next week i went with these. from a spec perspective, they sound every bit as good as the spigen crystals. i'll find out tomorrow/friday
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NU7DMC8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Let us know how they are. The Spigen ones are good from past experience ( I won't buy their TG again) I hope they are offered with prime to make shipping faster.
I was planning on getting a glass protector, but after reading several posts here I see that is a bad idea.
I normally bought Zagg with my S4, but I'm not really sure what kind I want to get with my new Nexus 6. I absolutely HATE finger prints so anything that gets them easy is a no go for me.
for anyone that bought from SuperShieldz on amazon they just sent me this:
Dear Customer
We would like to inform you that the nexus 6 screen protector we sent to you is incorrect for the camera lens. The proper one will be send to you on Next Monday. Sorry and we apologize for any inconvenience.
Best Regards,
Ann
I would stay away from the iSmooth screen protectors. Received mine today and they are not properly aligned for the front camera as the protector covers it. Only reason I'm not returning is because I need something on the phone until the other screen protectors I ordered arrive.
My Xtreme Guards had the wrong camera cutout also. If all these companies have the wrong cutout, were they given the incorrect dimensions from Motorola when they all started cutting these out?
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My Xtreme Guards had the wrong camera cutout also. If all these companies have the wrong cutout, were they given the incorrect dimensions from Motorola when they all started cutting these out?
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According to iSmooth, yes that's exactly what happened.
Thank you for purchasing our Nexus 6 screen protectors and writing a review on your experience with them. I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience you have experienced thus far with our product. Since we are extremely fanatical about our customers, I wanted to reply back to you so I could explain the errors behind the engineering of the Google Nexus 6 screen protectors.
I will point out that in order for us to get to market by the Nexus 6's launch date sometimes we have to make an educated guess with our screen protectors. This time, we failed with our cutout design.
Below are the key points that will point out where our screen protectors were either botched or made to fit this new device and the reasoning behind it:
1.) The cutout for the camera is a full camera width to the left of the actual camera -- this is obviously a mistake. However, the clarity of the screen protector will still insure that the camera is NOT affected by the screen protector. It is just customary that the cutouts exist. However, there will still be a little notch for no reason on your screen protector. We sincerely apologize for this error.
2.) The screen protector will NOT go "edge-to-edge" but that was done on purpose as there is a curved edge on the Nexus 6.
3.) If it did go "edge-to-edge", then the screen protector will lift up on the edges as it would not properly adhere to the curved edges.
4.) We decided that 95% coverage on the phone was better than having faulty screen protectors.
5.) Our screen protectors were also meant to work with cases which means if we DID cover the edges of the screen, then the case would force the screen protector to lift and cause a lot of bubbling and ruin the screen protector.
Please know that getting a revised cut of our Nexus 6 screen protectors is top priority at iSmooth - our customers are our #1.
If you would like to receive these updated screen protector cuts when we receive them, please email [email protected] with your name, mailing address and Order Number. When we receive them we will promptly email you and mail those corrected screen protector replacements out post haste with absolutely NO charge to you.
Or, should you need anything else or have any other concerns at all, kindly contact me at that same email address - I sincerely want to help and make this situation right by you.
Have a nice Wednesday and I hope to talk to you soon,
Channele
Customer Support Manager
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I'm updating the OP it appears like there will be no good screen protectors that are edge to edge with the exception of wet install ones which are a nightmare. I wouldn't risk a wet install with FF speakers but that's just me. I may just get a dbrand front skin to cover the gaps.
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I'm updating the OP it appears like there will be no good screen protectors that are edge to edge with the exception of wet install ones which are a nightmare. I wouldn't risk a wet install with FF speakers but that's just me. I may just get a dbrand front skin to cover the gaps.
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I never even thought about that. I liked the Zagg ones but on my S4 there isn't front facing speakers.
Zenzr said:
I never even thought about that. I liked the Zagg ones but on my S4 there isn't front facing speakers.
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Thats what I am worried about the most. The speakers are rather large and I've had bad experiences with wet install screen protectors. They killed my LG G Pad 8.3 (even when I barely put any solution on it, some managed to get into a small gap). Anyway I guess I'll see what else is available.
i just need any of the three screen protectors i ordered to show up. This POS one they put on the phone out of the box is killing me. I swear, would it kill moto (or any other manufacturer) to at least put a half way decent one on the device out of the box?
mb3030 said:
i just need any of the three screen protectors i ordered to show up. This POS one they put on the phone out of the box is killing me. I swear, would it kill moto (or any other manufacturer) to at least put a half way decent one on the device out of the box?
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I'm pretty sure it's not an actual screen protector, just something to cover it until it gets to your door.
Zenzr said:
I'm pretty sure it's not an actual screen protector, just something to cover it until it gets to your door.
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whatever- you know what i mean. This would add like a penny cost to a big manu
Pilz said:
Thats what I am worried about the most. The speakers are rather large and I've had bad experiences with wet install screen protectors. They killed my LG G Pad 8.3 (even when I barely put any solution on it, some managed to get into a small gap). Anyway I guess I'll see what else is available.
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Well, I guess I won't be installing the wet ones I just got when I get my device.
mb3030 said:
i just need any of the three screen protectors i ordered to show up. This POS one they put on the phone out of the box is killing me. I swear, would it kill moto (or any other manufacturer) to at least put a half way decent one on the device out of the box?
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heh that pos oem one the phone comes with lasted me a good month on the nexus 5. worked great!
anyway, my invisible defenders are out for delivery today. of course my phone isnt being delivered until tomorrow...
I ordered Spigen's for the N6. I Love it! can't even tell that i had one on my N5. As smooth as the screen.
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I'm updating the OP it appears like there will be no good screen protectors that are edge to edge with the exception of wet install ones which are a nightmare. I wouldn't risk a wet install with FF speakers but that's just me. I may just get a dbrand front skin to cover the gaps.
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I prefer wet install. I get the best install. Plus isn't this phone "splash" proof? (or was that a miscommunication?)
I wanted to share this experience for others to be aware of it and maybe to discuss some different experiences with other users.
Upon receiving my S10+, i enrolled my finger and have been using the phone for 2 days now.. I noticed that its almost a hit or miss, and many times it asks to keep my finger longer or press harder.. ALL THAT WHILE THE ORIGINAL SCREEN PROTECTOR IS ON, the one that comes installed with the phone.. It really bothered me given that i know for sure it should be better..
I remembered that i already bought 2 screen protectors, Ringke Dual, and Spigen film. And honestly that OCD kicked in with the original screen protector having a hole cut around the front cameras, so i looked at the Ringke dual and the screen protector covers the front camera (not that it matters because its very thin).
I applied it now after removing the original one. And its DAY AND NIGHT in difference with how fast and accurate the finger print reader is. Not a single miss or ask for longer hold..
So the way i see it, yes the ultra sonic definitely works great, but its best performance will be with a thinner screen protector ( Samsung original factory applied one is definitely thicker than the Ringke one)
I wonder how that will affect if others went with the UV glass screen protectors.. YES IT WILL WORK, but i advise them to try the finger print scanner for few minutes before installing it, when the screen is totally naked vs after installation.. To see themselves.
The Thickness of the screen protector is definitely a big factor, given how minimal the difference in the thickness in my trial.
Its a matter for discussion here, and to help others choose whats right..
(i dont sell or related to any seller or any brand and am not marketing or linking anything here)
Dang, I get my screen protectors custom cut at a local cell phone place and they are fairly thick. I paid them $20 and I get screen protectors for life.
That's good to know. I'm surprised the phone comes with a screen protector if it interferes with the sensor. I don't usually use one, I'm pretty easy on my phone.
I heard on CNET today that Samsung is aware of the 'hit and miss' fingerprint scanner and there should be an update for the time of sale (8th).
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I never heard of the Ringke Dual, just watched a bunch of youtube videos and im insanely impressed. you say it doesn't effect, but in fact made your fingerprint reader experience better?
dansan382 said:
I never heard of the Ringke Dual, just watched a bunch of youtube videos and im insanely impressed. you say it doesn't effect, but in fact made your fingerprint reader experience better?
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Its because its thinner than the original one, and definitely thinner than glass or the wet films.. I think when it comes to ultrasonic, microns matters in thickness..
Its a screen protector by Ringke.. Try searching and you will find it..
Maybe other brands with the same material and thickness will work as good too..
I have a huge problems with ****y S23 ultra. I had tempered glass screen protector... I had huge problems to add fingerprints.... after a day noone worked... I have to set new recordings after every day....
I gave up and bought plastic screen protector.. everything working great.... after a day again no fingerprint can be read..... I hate this phone.... is there any other solution? On S20 there was an option to remove battery optimization on com.biometrics app....
Thank you
I had same problems with a glass protector - i had to press very hard to recognize my finger.
Now with matte folio i dont have a problem. Have you resetted your fingerprints after instaling the new protector?
Deceiving thread title. Even the cheapest screen protector works very well with Samsung's in-glass finger print sensor.
Please be so kind and change your screen protector with 10 dollar one, you'll be fine.
Don't create thread to everything.
Not all tempered glass is capable of FPS. Option is to use a Hydrogel screen protector or just buy the tempered glass with hole on the FPS portion which looks like sh*t.
There is also what they call a Dome Glass that can make FPS work, but the attachment uses some sort of a liquid glue. Just make sure to avail the one that doesn't stick like a super glue
illetyus said:
Deceiving thread title. Even the cheapest screen protector works very well with Samsung's in-glass finger print sensor.
Please be so kind and change your screen protector with 10 dollar one, you'll be fine.
Don't create thread to everything.
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Man, i have tried 4 different brands tempered glass, 2 of them was with thinner glass on the fingerpring area - all didnt work good or didnt worked at all. I had many phones before that, never had this problem.
I have used a cheap matte plastic screen protector on the S21U, S22U and now on the S23U with no problems whatsoever with enhanced touch sensitivity turned on.
I have the same problem. Fingerprint reader is s* on S23U. I've tried many different screen protectors and it still sucks. My previous phone was Huawei P30 Pro and the fingerprint scanner was amazing even with a $1 protector on it.
The moment they tried to install that ass looking protector with the hole in the shop I was thinking what's going on here and what's wrong with a fingerprint reader.
This sux. So I have to try different sceen protector.... that could be expensive
Which one do you suggest, that wors 100%?
Is there any option to have them install screen protector?
i use samsung screen protector and i do not have any issue with biometrics... I don't even use enhanced sensitivity. Om my local forum everyone that use Whitestone Dome Glass have no issue with biometrics too, they put it exactly like in instruction using this metal weight during mounting. Some ppl that experiment with other brands have issue here and there.
I have use the Spigen Neo_flex and works great only issue is that like to smudge with fingerprints easy, and the I have the offical one on the S22 ultra and work great too, I have official one coming for my S23 ultra, for me the FPS works no better or worse than my S22 ultra.
Have you tried recording multiple copies of your fingerprints, in my experience, this vastly improves recognition?
1st, no screen protector the finger print reader is not the best... Cool tech tho, but not perfect yet.
I went to a cellphone shop, and the guy told me not only glassprotector will limit the reliability, but this reliability will change overtime.
- He proposed to me a film of gel protector, which I did use for few weeks, and indeed , it was like no protector at all. +/- 90% success rate.
- Then tried Axessorize Amor gLass, the matte spot bother me. around 50% success rate on multiple register same figer trick.
- Then tried those UV glass Ni-shen. Depite the fact those glass dont stick and do bubble, I have around 70-75% success rate with again same finger registered many time.
oVeRdOsE. said:
1st, no screen protector the finger print reader is not the best... Cool tech tho, but not perfect yet.
I went to a cellphone shop, and the guy told me not only glassprotector will limit the reliability, but this reliability will change overtime.
- He proposed to me a film of gel protector, which I did use for few weeks, and indeed , it was like no protector at all. +/- 90% success rate.
- Then tried Axessorize Amor gLass, the matte spot bother me. around 50% success rate on multiple register same figer trick.
- Then tried those UV glass Ni-shen. Depite the fact those glass dont stick and do bubble, I have around 70-75% success rate with again same finger registered many time.
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Maybe you have defect one, I never had issue with the FPS on my 22ultra or the 23 Ultra, I know people complain of it, but if your thumb is really dry that effects it, and its ultrasonic, not optical like lot of the other phones that have the in-display finger print reader, I like the samsung better since when I`m on the lake with my seadoo and in the water and my hands are pretty wet it still works, the optical ones won`t work unless you dry your thumb.
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Maybe you have defect one, I never had issue with the FPS on my 22ultra or the 23 Ultra, I know people complain of it, but if your thumb is really dry that effects it, and its ultrasonic, not optical like lot of the other phones that have the in-display finger print reader, I like the samsung better since when I`m on the lake with my seadoo and in the water and my hands are pretty wet it still works, the optical ones won`t work unless you dry your thumb.
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Doubt, I had 2x S23, was the same.
My hand are all over the place. Calm and no coffee = dry.
Sport or coffee or both = sweaty.
Most reviewers state the same. And this is partially because 4-5 years ago, we were use to ceramic one.
Those are way faster, and 99% success rate.
100% sure this is because people comparing 2 different technologies, and expect the same result. Under screen reading, is somewhat recent, and has a hader challenge to read between pixels a small print that never get positioned the same way each time
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There is also what they call a Dome Glass that can make FPS work, but the attachment uses some sort of a liquid glue. Just make sure to avail the one that doesn't stick like a super glue
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I use a Whitestone Dome Glass screen protector myself (been using them ever since they came out).
It works fine with fingerprints.
With all screen protectors one needs to increase touch sensitivity in Settings-->Display-->Touch sensitivity.
Yes, Dome Glass uses a UV-activated liquid glue. It comes with a jig to assist in placing the protector on the screen and a UV lamp to cure the glue. For me, the installation jig makes the procedure smooth and flawless every time - no bubbles and perfect placement of the protector. I would not use any other protector than the Dome Glass one.
I used to use the AmFilm but there glue is crap this year. The best for me now is the IMBZBK tempered glass UV glue installation. My fingerprint sensor with glass on works as good as with screen protector off. 95 percent success rate with glass on. Follow the instructions and you should have a perfect installation with this glass.
https://amzn.to/3mYOmtq
I have the exact same bad experience with FPS with tempered glass screen protector on, sometimes it works perfectly but other times it doesn't work at all, it's so frustrating...
I had Huawei P30 Pro and the FPS worked flawless everytime with any screen protector I've used.
Or y'all could save yourself some trouble and stop using sh***y screen protectors in the first place and you wouldn't have these problems.
borijess said:
I used to use the AmFilm but there glue is crap this year. The best for me now is the IMBZBK tempered glass UV glue installation. My fingerprint sensor with glass on works as good as with screen protector off. 95 percent success rate with glass on. Follow the instructions and you should have a perfect installation with this glass.
https://amzn.to/3mYOmtq
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Your link has a reference to get a benefit when someone clicks. Shame on you.
Here the unshortened version
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BQFCST5G/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_apa_gl_i_N1SJB1TGFHE6G8MQ9C6M?linkCode=ml1&tag=jesserodrig0f-20
If someone want to look at that product that I not recommend at all use this link without referral
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I tried that one and finished in the garbage, bad quality product, is a screen protector that covers the front cam degrading the picture quality. Screen protectors should not cover the cam. Even from that brand I tried the camera lens protectors and after a while I saw slight scratches on it, now I have another brand that works fine.
The only way to not having issues with the FP is having a TPU screen protector and that's it, I have one and I have a rate of 80%-90% aprox and I will live with it.
Another very important point is this FP reader doesnt work at best with very dry skin, put your finger in your mouth, blow your humid breath and it will work better. I do this sometimes with other FP readers like when I enter in my house.
That is not true. If you install the glass correctly you won't have any issues with camera or fingerprint sensor. My accuracy is in the high 90s with the glass on. In all honesty don't feel any difference between glass and no glass.