Question Charging with 65w - Xiaomi Mi Pad 5 Pro

Hi everybody,
I have a question regarding using Realme 65w charger with Pad 5 Pro.
So Xiaomi 67w charger should recharge Pad 5 Pro on about an hour if I understood correctly, but when using 65w (10V, 6.5 A) charger from my Realme GT it takes more that 2 hours to recharge it and I find it weird because it's only 2w weaker.
Does Xiaomi have some special way of charging or I missed something when researching about Watts when charging? In my opinion it should take a little longer to charger iz with 65w and not twice as long.

Ultra fast charging employed by Chinese OEMs are mostly proprietary meaning they are limited to their devices only. When used to charge a device from a different brand they fall back to QC 2/3 or maybe USB-PD.

Hortisay said:
Hi everybody,
I have a question regarding using Realme 65w charger with Pad 5 Pro.
So Xiaomi 67w charger should recharge Pad 5 Pro on about an hour if I understood correctly, but when using 65w (10V, 6.5 A) charger from my Realme GT it takes more that 2 hours to recharge it and I find it weird because it's only 2w weaker.
Does Xiaomi have some special way of charging or I missed something when researching about Watts when charging? In my opinion it should take a little longer to charger iz with 65w and not twice as long.
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The only charger that managed to charge at real 65 w is a original 67w Xiaomi charger. Nothing else enabled the ultra fast charging. If you what I can post battery guru stats of the tablet charging with the Xiaomi original and a baseus 65w Gan charger.

Make sure your USB C is 6A to use with that 65W!

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Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
last week i bought a Redmi 5 Plus 4gb/ 64gb Global then i tried to test charge time and quick charge.. 3-4 times with a qualcomm QC 3.0 charger and another QC 2.0 charger.. The results are similar: all about 2 hour.. the charge time with Xiaomi's own 2A Charger it take about 2 and half hour. i know its good but not so good.. By the way i notice that when test with QC3.0 charger it can not charge with 12V.. (i used a usb tester to see voltage and Current) i just saw 9.30v as max voltage. its behave look like QC2.0 not QC3.0
Snapdragon 625 should be support QC3.0 isnt it?
Are there anyone test quick charge?
I have a QC 2.0 charger,takes about 2 hour to fully charge my R5 phone... don't have tester to measure voltage,but phone doesn't heats up,its around 28 C when charging.Charger does
all my qc3.0 tests take 2 hours too. i see my qc 3.0 charger work as qc 2.0 charger. maybe my charger not work as qc 3.0 maybe our phone not support qc 3.0 we will see... i will buy a new qc 3.0 charger and i will test it again then i share the results here too.
using moto g4 plus turbo charger . charging speed 2600+mah . takes approx 1 n half hr.
rajit said:
using moto g4 plus turbo charger . charging speed 2600+mah . takes approx 1 n half hr.
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thats good score :good::good: but i ordered another qc3.0 adaptor from aliexpress it has 3 port, i will share the score about a mont later
I think it has QC 2.0 instead of 3.0
A QC 3.0 charger is backward compatible.
redsfury said:
I think it has QC 2.0 instead of 3.0
A QC 3.0 charger is backward compatible.
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i agree with you
welll my new charger delivered me from china, so i tested it a few times. its better than my qc2.0 charger and my other qc3 car charger ( i think its not qc3.0 its just qc2.0 ) My new charger is not as good as expected.. charge time is an hour and 45 minutes. .. its mean 15 min better than qc.2.0 ... i saw 10.1v and 1,35 amp on my usb tester, it could be 12v... Anyway we can see that the phone supports qc 3.0 but not at all its need powerfull and good qualty QC3.0 charger, so if you want to buy a QC3 charger i I recommend that you need to research well.
amedian said:
thats good score :good::good: but i ordered another qc3.0 adaptor from aliexpress it has 3 port, i will share the score about a mont later
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I'm planning to buy my Xiaomi Redmi 5 Plus from AliExpress. Do you advise me to do so,?
I use my Axon 7 charger which works fine.
Envoyé de mon Redmi Note 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
I've seen mine go up to 2600 mah with a samsung quick charge adaptor, don't know waht version of QC thou, 1.5 hours to 100%.
Cheers!
Ramon S.
I'm using my old charger from vivo , is this normal charging speed?
I tried a charger that is certified by Qualcomm with QC3.0 and got around 2470 mAh (4.171 V)
PLease help! I am facing some battery calibration issues. The phone hardly charges up to 100% no matter how long you charge it. It just gets stuck at 96% or 97% and then the phone goes off at 19% on usage. I have tried different calibration apps to no avail. I even did a clean flash using the miflash tool, still no luck. Somebody help o
mathefaro said:
PLease help! I am facing some battery calibration issues. The phone hardly charges up to 100% no matter how long you charge it. It just gets stuck at 96% or 97% and then the phone goes off at 19% on usage. I have tried different calibration apps to no avail. I even did a clean flash using the miflash tool, still no luck. Somebody help o
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You are not alone. R5 plus and some another xiaomi device, sometimes we see this problem. And there is no software solution. Wipe, mi flash, battery calibrationi root... I tried everything but no luck.
Only solution is;
Remove the back cover (i did it, its not so difficult.)
Remove the battery connector plug
Wait a few seconds
Plug it back.
Thats done. Problem solved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkeP30myjF8
amedian said:
welll my new charger delivered me from china, so i tested it a few times. its better than my qc2.0 charger and my other qc3 car charger ( i think its not qc3.0 its just qc2.0 ) My new charger is not as good as expected.. charge time is an hour and 45 minutes. .. its mean 15 min better than qc.2.0 ... i saw 10.1v and 1,35 amp on my usb tester, it could be 12v... Anyway we can see that the phone supports qc 3.0 but not at all its need powerfull and good qualty QC3.0 charger, so if you want to buy a QC3 charger i I recommend that you need to research well.
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Can you please confirm whether it supports quick charge 3.0 ?
I`m about to buy a mi quick charge 3 adapter.
You can post screenshot of your file located at /sys/class/power_supply/battery/uevent
Just want to be sure. That`s it.
I know I might be late but I'm getting around 4.4v is that normal?
kemdroid said:
I know I might be late but I'm getting around 4.4v is that normal?
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if you use normal charger. im also getting 4.4V. You can try quick charge 2 or higher (it`s compatible)
paulb86 said:
if you use normal charger. im also getting 4.4V. You can try quick charge 2 or higher (it`s compatible)
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Actually I heard it's fine. I'm using quick charge 3.0. Redmi Note 5 AI/Global. Fully charges from 0 in 1hr 50 mins.

Dash charge 5V 4A from OP to charge MI9

Hello all
Quick question : is my dash charge charger from my ex One plus 3 will do the job for my xiaomi mi9 ?
It is like this one : https://www.amazon.fr/Chargeur-tabl...rge+oneplus+3&qid=1558015037&s=gateway&sr=8-5
It was extremely fast for the one plus, I wonder if I could damage the battery using it on my MI9
OnePlus Dash Charge : 20W
Xiaomi Mi 9 Boxed charger : 18W
Xiaomi Mi 9 supports QC 4+: 27W
So the charger you get in the box is slightly slower, but you can buy a QC4+ charger for ~25-50€ with 27W.
You could also buy a 20W Qi charger, but if have concerns about damaging your battery this should be your last option imo.
You can charge the Mi9 with the OP Dash Charger and it won't damage your phones. I'm not sure if it actually charges with 20W tho. I also switched from the Oneplus 3 to the Mi9 and when i plug in my dash charger it says "fast charging", but i wouldn't say it is faster then the boxed charger.
orawnnd said:
OnePlus Dash Charge : 20W
Xiaomi Mi 9 Boxed charger : 18W
Xiaomi Mi 9 supports QC 4+: 27W
So the charger you get in the box is slightly slower, but you can buy a QC4+ charger for ~25-50€ with 27W.
You could also buy a 20W Qi charger, but if have concerns about damaging your battery this should be your last option imo.
You can charge the Mi9 with the OP Dash Charger and it won't damage your phones. I'm not sure if it actually charges with 20W tho. I also switched from the Oneplus 3 to the Mi9 and when i plug in my dash charger it says "fast charging", but i wouldn't say it is faster then the boxed charger.
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Thanks
I just tested, and it charges slower with OP dash charge
I have bought the wireless 20w pad charge , and it charges 1% per 40 sec, the pad plugged with the stock xiaomi charger ( who is 18w )
I would like to try a 27W, have you got a link for a good one ?
Have just tried my old OnePlus dash charger and it's the same as a standard normal non quick charge charger, not as fast as the included 18w charger
Anyone tried the oneplus dash charger with the 20w wireless charging pad? Would it throttle the charging speed?
Anyone tried to put diesel into petrol car? Dash charger and QC is whole different charging concept. Dash charger will work like regular charger(max. [email protected]) on every device except Dash equipped devices.
I am not sure why you're being sarcastic.
If you haven't seen a dash charger, I suggest you go take a look. Even if it works like a regular charger (and I want it to be), its output is 5V/4A.
So my question is whether its output can power the xiaomi 20w wireless pad without throttle. I.e. Full charging capability of the wireless pad.
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OnePlus Dash Charge : 20W
Xiaomi Mi 9 Boxed charger : 18W
Xiaomi Mi 9 supports QC 4+: 27W
So the charger you get in the box is slightly slower, but you can buy a QC4+ charger for ~25-50€ with 27W.
You could also buy a 20W Qi charger, but if have concerns about damaging your battery this should be your last option imo.
You can charge the Mi9 with the OP Dash Charger and it won't damage your phones. I'm not sure if it actually charges with 20W tho. I also switched from the Oneplus 3 to the Mi9 and when i plug in my dash charger it says "fast charging", but i wouldn't say it is faster then the boxed charger.
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I believe it's not that simple, OnePlus Dash Charge supports 20W charging, BUT that's 5V 4A.
On the other hand, I believe Mi 9 accept max 2A current, so, if you use original OnePlus Dash Charge, it only charges Mi 9 at max 5V 2A = 10W, much slower than use a standard 18W QC 2.0.....
zachwzx said:
I am not sure why you're being sarcastic.
If you haven't seen a dash charger, I suggest you go take a look. Even if it works like a regular charger (and I want it to be), its output is 5V/4A.
So my question is whether its output can power the xiaomi 20w wireless pad without throttle. I.e. Full charging capability of the wireless pad.
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Actually I have 4 Dash Chargers. There are tons of articles, topics here on XDA explaining how Dash Charging works a why it's not working on QC devices at 4Amps. For example:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/accessories/dash-charge-protocol-analysis-t3431917
https://www.guidingtech.com/61180/dash-charging-quick-charge-differences/
Long story short, it delivers 4A only for Dash enabled devices, with Dash cable. To maitain compatiblity with USB standard it can work also as regular 5V/2A charger.
BTW Xiaomi Wirless Pad draw 27W to deliver 20W. Look at the specs, it requires 20V/1,35A input. And you are asking if 5V/4A are enough.
ManuBBXX said:
Hello all
Quick question : is my dash charge charger from my ex One plus 3 will do the job for my xiaomi mi9 ?
It is like this one : https://www.amazon.fr/Chargeur-tabl...rge+oneplus+3&qid=1558015037&s=gateway&sr=8-5
It was extremely fast for the one plus, I wonder if I could damage the battery using it on my MI9
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I recomend you to install aida64 on playstore , go to battery and plug the phone to the chargers.
It will say how much energy is going into the phone.
Try it with both chargers

Baseus 30W charger at Mi 9

does anyone tried to charge Mi 9 with this Baseus charger?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32988045731.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.71f43c00TyHdOp
is this charger compatible with 27W xiaomi charging?
I think it's just Quick Charge 3.0. You should buy the 27W charger imo. But i could be wrong
I have it, it does quick charge but not charge turbo
Good I stopped by XDA before purchasing it.
It does say if you scroll down on its specs it's a QC4 charger, but I assumed the described output would be a sum of both USB ports working simultaneously.
Already posted about it some weeks ago.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79530777&postcount=73
It's indeed just a QC 4.0 charger. Will only do 18W.
Hi, I have one. For it to work properly you have to have the cable of more than 30w.
Load much faster than the original that comes in the box. I did a quick test from 75% to 100% with the phone turned off and charged in 25min; so you can assume if it's fast or not.
WTF ; does this phone even do QC4 ... the Xiaomi offical charger is 3.0 and I bought a $68 dollars Belkin QC : 4.0+ offical as per reviews and it caps out at. 3470 : it NEVER has said fast or TURBO and it ofen Ampere reports 1800 mah ? Can anyone explain this in any way
Do you really have to post the same thing in every single charger related topic ?
Ataemonus said:
Do you really have to post the same thing in every single charger related topic ?
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I couldn't find this :/
hardtheory said:
I have it, it does quick charge but not charge turbo
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Thanks for info dude
I suspect that Turbo Charge only happens with the 27W factory charger.
Because my Hama QC4+ charger, certified by Qualcomm, charges definitely faster than the 18W charger found in the package, but does not say Charge Fast or even Charge Turbo.
twojastara-5 said:
does anyone tried to charge Mi 9 with this Baseus charger?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32988045731.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.71f43c00TyHdOp
is this charger compatible with 27W xiaomi charging?
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Call me crazy but I think it will charge the device at 27W speed.
A lot of people don't seem to realize but the "Xiaomi Turbo Charger 27W" is actually QC3, not QC4+, and it does charge the device at 27W. If you find a QC4+ charger that supports 27W and up, you will still get 27W charging but you won't see "Charge Turbo" because it will use the better, newer charging standard.
This can make charge turbo QC 3.0 and it's cheaper and with more ports:
https://www.banggood.com/AiNaU-3-US...amsung-S8-Letv-Xiaomi6-mi5-mi6-p-1168215.html
lusp00ky said:
This can make charge turbo QC 3.0 and it's cheaper and with more ports:
https://www.banggood.com/AiNaU-3-US...amsung-S8-Letv-Xiaomi6-mi5-mi6-p-1168215.html
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Yeah but it can only charge at standard QC3 speeds, aka 18W at max. 9V/2A like the original one does. But the original one can also do 12V/1.5A. So it does not "Turbo Charge".
Careful many poster here are confused. My BELKIN true QC4.0+ never ever charged over 3200mA and averaged out at under 2200mA. Posters who speak about things without testing their theories are really frustrating. Do yourself a favor don't believe this phone accepts QC4 or QC 4.0+ (at least not @July 2019) only QC 3.0 NON FAKE xiaomi 27w can do the 4600mA + it would seem. Turbo charging is required for extremely rapid charge times. Make sure you get OFFICIAL 20V 1.35A from Xiaomi for Turbo Charge sustained charge and under one hour 0--100%
I also purchased a QC 4.0+ Hama DC charger cause Xiaomi doesn't make a DC charger to my knowledge. Guess what ; 18w ish charging speeds .. no Fast or Turbo classification ...
XIAOMI Hoe do you call this phone a QC 4.0/4.0+ unit !!! Cause look close at the charger Turbo pictures they are all using the "Original QC 3.0 Xiaomi charger that we ALL should have got in the box. Instead many of us have wasted tonnes of money and time buying useless to us QC 4.0+ tech that doesn't work or WORSE fake chargers that don't do more than 18w !! By the time we we have ordered 3-4 different chargers trying to get it to work we have to order it on Ali or gearbest or Gearvita. Cause the company does make them after all!! Enjoy the brutal shipping fees and heavy wait times. Well we order this and that trying to get the darn thing to work. So annoyed right now
Hi, I got the original charger and this if it gives the turbocharged 27w charge, however the baseus charger charges the same as the one that comes in the box or with the wireless charge.
I made this short video: https://youtu.be/nFBoPxORzEg
https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/how-to/mi-9t-pro-30w-charger-experiment-t4003595
read this. Also tested with a mi9 that my fried had. same result.( Turbo charging up to 30W using the baseus charger)
Posted for those who end up here like me and read mixed info
I also have the Baseus charger mentioned above (BS-EU906), the variant with 2 usb A ports.
When I charge with the cable from my samsung galaxy tab S5e it charges with a bit over 4200mA 20w-21w.
But when I charge with my Baseus 2m 5a capable cable (CATSS-B0G), it never goes above 3400mA ~14w.
It still chargers fast, but it is not what was advertised. Both the cable and charger are rated for QC3.
Baseus GaN charger 65W + Baseus 5A cable reaches 5000mA in Ampere, which is assuming 5V (that's what Ampere is assuming), equals to 25W. The fact is voltage in QC is never stable, it's the factor that allows it to dynamically supply power based on various parameters: battery temp, device temp, battery capacity and so on. If you have a USB-C USB doctor (and it should be more accurate than any software based monitoring) you can watch yourself that both the voltage and current are alternating constantly.

Samsung Adapter alternative?

Hello, im new with Xiaomi phones so i came here to ask for some advice.
i bought a Xiaomi Mi a3 (obviously ) 2 days ago and noticed that it was capable of Fast Charging.
18W fast Charging. but inside the Box it only has a 10W charger.
the specs of the 18W xiaomi Charger is:
Input: 100 - 240V~ 50-60Hz 0.5A
Output: 5V -- 2.5A [12.5W] / 9V -- 2A [18W] / 12V -- 1.5A [18W]
I have my Old Samsung Note 5 Fast Adaptive Charger 15W (i think) specs:
Input: 100 - 240V~ 50-60Hz 0.5A
Output: 9V -- 1.67A [15.03W] / 5V -- 2A [10W]
Question is, Is it ok to use the Note 5 Charger?? I will still use the Xiaomi type C Cable.
Note: i think xiaomi uses Qualcomm Universal Quick Charge technology, While Samsung Uses its own for Adaptive Fast Charging. so i don't know if it will damage the battery or something.
Reason for asking is: Information. i just wanted to know if it's Okay and not be Harmful before trying. But just in case i think i'll order a Xiaomi 18w Charger.
(bonus question: to those who Have an 18w Charger. a lot of test on youtube about the 18w Charger not really faster than the 10w charger. is it really worth the buy/faster??)
thank you. :highfive:
that's kinda quick 1:40min 10-95% . actually i joted down my 1st Charge yesterday night.
10% battery - time 9:47
66% battery - time 10:48 (44 mins till Fully charge. [phone said])
100% battery - time 11:43 (this last one i don't really know, . . . . i was watching a tv show and just realized the time and thats when i looked)
so i guess 1hr 56mins kinda more or less i guess using the 10W charger. . . . if what you said is true then next charge i will try using the 15w samsung charger and post the time.
Results of using Samsung 15W(ish) Adaptive Charger [Original Charger Note 5]
10% battery - 5:51 pm
11% battery - 5:52 pm (did a double check hehe)
100% battery - 7:24 pm
So it took 1 hr and 33mins. , can someone tell me their 18w Charger Test Results?
Just buy a 18watt charger.
Does someone tried to monitor Quick charge how does it work? Which type our phone use ? 5V 3A, 9V 2A or 12V 1,5A?
I'm on PE and with stock kernel qc doesnt work, but if I use bit kernel it goes 5v 3A.

Slow wireless charging?

Hola
Just got my Mi 10 Global version today. I went through the usual base setup and all. I then wanted to see how long the device will take to charge on my 15w wireless charger... Only to see that the Mi 10 is charging around 200mA. It is so slow that the device is actually loosing power if I keep the display on ???
I have two 15 watts fast wireless chargers and using my Pixel 4 XL and Mi 9, I see absolutely no problem... Issue is only on the Mi 10.
Can anyone please check their phones to see if it is only me? Thanks. Any help would be appreciated.
i have the 20w wireless pad. if i use the plug that came with mi10 (30w) it doesn't show that the pad charges with turbo even though this charger has an option of 27w charging. it needs the 27w that came with the pad in order to charge on 20w. i guess just use its own plug..

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