Question [CLOSED] ANYONE KNOW WHEN 12L BETA MIGHT BECOME AVAILABLE FOR PIXEL 6 SERIES?! - Google Pixel 6

That's it, not much else to add...anyone knows/heard anything on this, an update would be grand. I've not been able to dig up
nor waterboard anyone on this topic! Lol (ty)
p.s. I'm aware that many patrons of our Pixel 6 series are still plagued with ongoing issues, but a friend inside said that's not necessarily it (the cause for delay)?

No idea. Sadly no communication from Google as well apart from "coming soon" since beta 1.
GSI is showing in "DSU Loader" but we are not able to boot into that.
I am pretty disappointed with how the updates are being handled for p6 series.
I am having a Samsung kind of experience, w.r.t. software updates, after buying p6

HtcDesire2 said:
No idea. Sadly no communication from Google as well apart from "coming soon" since beta 1.
GSI is showing in "DSU Loader" but we are not able to boot into that.
I am pretty disappointed with how the updates are being handled for p6 series.
I am having a Samsung kind of experience, w.r.t. software updates, after buying p6
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Me too, and I'm one of the lucky ones that's not having any issues other than G-teams lack of information & timing on their updates!

evnStevn said:
Me too, and I'm one of the lucky ones that's not having any issues other than G-teams lack of information & timing on their updates!
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Lucky you.
Not even rainbow effect on screen (if viewed at an angle) and green tint when viewing the screen in a dark room with dark mode enabled?

HtcDesire2 said:
Lucky you.
Not even rainbow effect on screen (if viewed at an angle) and green tint when viewing the screen in a dark room with dark mode enabled?
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Nope, had to ck on your specifics, but negative.
I haven't found ANYTHING, that's odd in this case & I know it?

evnStevn said:
Nope, had to ck on your specifics, but negative.
I haven't found ANYTHING, that's odd in this case & I know it?
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Impossible.
All pixel 6 have the same screens and all suffer from rainbow effects and green tints on gray backgrounds.

flyl0 said:
Impossible.
All pixel 6 have the same screens and all suffer from rainbow effects and green tints on gray backgrounds.
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makes sense, & I'm very colorblind so not something that's been catching my attention.

It depends on your ability to spot or ignore these details but it gets on my nerves tbh
This is probably the worst amoled panel I've had in my entire life..

HtcDesire2 said:
Lucky you.
Not even rainbow effect on screen (if viewed at an angle) and green tint when viewing the screen in a dark room with dark mode enabled?
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Every OLED panel I've ever had has had green tint in a dark room with dark mode.
People really need to stop going and looking for issues. If you have to tell someone how to look for it, it's not an issue.

What is the purpose of starting this thread when there is already a thread on this subject?
Just curious, because I try to read all threads in the Pixel 6. And it gets annoying with this type of nonsense.
Seaching and reading benefits everyone.
Would you be signing up for android 12L beta? Why?
Given android 12L beta 1 is due in few days would you be giving it a try on your P6? What would be your main reason for this? For me: Dynamic color on boot animation :P May be better dynamic color on UI. Just like to stay on top of updates :D
forum.xda-developers.com

flyl0 said:
It depends on your ability to spot or ignore these details but it gets on my nerves tbh
This is probably the worst amoled panel I've had in my entire life..
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Absolutely worst screen I've ever had on a device. They almost have to try to f it up this bad

EtherealRemnant said:
Every OLED panel I've ever had has had green tint in a dark room with dark mode.
People really need to stop going and looking for issues. If you have to tell someone how to look for it, it's not an issue.
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That's complete bs dude.. Don't try and justify your purchase.. I've NEVER had the green tint on any amoled device. Period. Maybe some light bleed on back lit devices. But nothing like this. I'm sick of everyone's bias at trying to defend this bs. "Well other phones have had this n that problem before too", like how low are you gonna lower the bar for Google?

opz187 said:
That's complete bs dude.. Don't try and justify your purchase.. I've NEVER had the green tint on any amoled device. Period. Maybe some light bleed on back lit devices. But nothing like this. I'm sick of everyone's bias at trying to defend this bs. "Well other phones have had this n that problem before too", like how low are you gonna lower the bar for Google?
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Can you post a screen shot or a link of the issues that you are having. That way someone can help you sort it out.

And I thought I was Nutz.
There are people in this thread causing trouble and do not even have a pixel 6.

opz187 said:
That's complete bs dude.. Don't try and justify your purchase.. I've NEVER had the green tint on any amoled device. Period. Maybe some light bleed on back lit devices. But nothing like this. I'm sick of everyone's bias at trying to defend this bs. "Well other phones have had this n that problem before too", like how low are you gonna lower the bar for Google?
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My $1099 12 Pro Max has a green tint if I put in the exact conditions you describe. So does my Pixel 3 XL. The only *OLED device I've ever had that I'm certain didn't have it was my Samsung Captivate.
My point is that I'm sick and tired of seeing people tell people to go look for issues. If they didn't see it before, it wasn't an issue until you made it one.
nutzcase said:
And I thought I was Nutz.
There are people in this thread causing trouble and do not even have a pixel 6.
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It doesn't matter if I have one or not, I'm going to call out stupid BS when I see it. Having people check for insignificant issues they didn't even know about just makes people who were previously happy with their purchase unhappy because once you see something, you can never unsee it. People need to stop spoiling other people's happiness. Like this thread wasn't even started about the "defects" of the device, they were brought up to someone who just finished saying they were happy with their device! It's ridiculous.

vandyman said:
Can you post a screen shot or a link of the issues that you are having. That way someone can help you sort it out.
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Absolutely not. Don't act like I'm the exception here. Just go to both the pixel 6 and p6pro forums right here on XDA and you'll see endless threads with the same problems over and over again. How am I supposed to show you a screenshot of my awful signal, color banding, green tint & other defects etc? Don't be ignorant

EtherealRemnant said:
My $1099 12 Pro Max has a green tint if I put in the exact conditions you describe. So does my Pixel 3 XL. The only *OLED device I've ever had that I'm certain didn't have it was my Samsung Captivate.
My point is that I'm sick and tired of seeing people tell people to go look for issues. If they didn't see it before, it wasn't an issue until you made it one.
It doesn't matter if I have one or not, I'm going to call out stupid BS when I see it. Having people check for insignificant issues they didn't even know about just makes people who were previously happy with their purchase unhappy because once you see something, you can never unsee it. People need to stop spoiling other people's happiness. Like this thread wasn't even started about the "defects" of the device, they were brought up to someone who just finished saying they were happy with their device! It's ridiculous.
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Insignificant issues? These are MAJOR issues. All our problems are VALID, who the f are you to say otherwise.

EtherealRemnant said:
My $1099 12 Pro Max has a green tint if I put in the exact conditions you describe. So does my Pixel 3 XL. The only *OLED device I've ever had that I'm certain didn't have it was my Samsung Captivate.
My point is that I'm sick and tired of seeing people tell people to go look for issues. If they didn't see it before, it wasn't an issue until you made it one.
It doesn't matter if I have one or not, I'm going to call out stupid BS when I see it. Having people check for insignificant issues they didn't even know about just makes people who were previously happy with their purchase unhappy because once you see something, you can never unsee it. People need to stop spoiling other people's happiness. Like this thread wasn't even started about the "defects" of the device, they were brought up to someone who just finished saying they were happy with their device! It's ridiculous.
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I'm sick of people like you who can't be objective and see the issues for what they are and have to push your little self conscious bias on us who ARE having issues. Just because some may not be having issues doesn't mean the rest aren't. And who's to say those that "aren't having issues" really aren't, or maybe they just haven't noticed OR just prefer to ignore it. Of course there's people like you and vandy who completely deny that there are issues. "Uh the green tint is a sweet feature, what you mean"

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I'm sick of people like you who can't be objective and see the issues for what they are and have to push your little self conscious bias on us who ARE having issues. Just because some may not be having issues doesn't mean the rest aren't. And who's to say those that "aren't having issues" really aren't, or maybe they just haven't noticed OR just prefer to ignore it. Of course there's people like you and vandy who completely deny that there are issues. "Uh the green tint is a sweet feature, what you mean"
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I'm not denying that there are issues. My problem is people like you who think it's your job to tell someone who's happy with their phone about the issues it likely has. Stop ruining people's enjoyment of the device just because you demand perfection. You came into a thread that wasn't about device issues and told someone who just finished saying they were happy with the device that it's likely defective. Just knock it off. Keep your misery to yourself and threads designated for it. I'm not going to reply to this any further because I don't want to make work for the mods but it's just not cool to ruin other people's experience with their devices.

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I'm not denying that there are issues. My problem is people like you who think it's your job to tell someone who's happy with their phone about the issues it likely has. Stop ruining people's enjoyment of the device just because you demand perfection. You came into a thread that wasn't about device issues and told someone who just finished saying they were happy with the device that it's likely defective. Just knock it off. Keep your misery to yourself and threads designated for it. I'm not going to reply to this any further because I don't want to make work for the mods but it's just not cool to ruin other people's experience with their devices.
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Ruining people's happiness lol. Grow up dude. If there's an issue with my device I didn't know about, I sure as hell would like to know about it, whether it affects me or not. If the problems don't bother you that's great, kick rocks. But people should and have the right to know that these issues are prevalent and widespread. If they aren't affected or choose not to care, that's great. But at least they have the information. Your argument is weak sauce

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[Q] what are all the bad things about the galaxy s 2

I've heard that on some batches theres a screen issue a little yellow light. Any more defects? Also this can be helpful to others. Thank you. +rep
Read through the threads, youll find theres not that many actual users with the problem vs multiple post from same person.
One of the bad things is that owners of the sgs2 cant seem to find the search function on this site, neither can they read the threads that have been posted before their own 'totally unique' thread.
Its probably best you just read a couple of threads and decide for yourself. just remember that people only tend to post to complain, people almost never post to say they happy with a device.
+1 OMG theres millions registered users here, its all been posted/asked before.
stoney73 said:
One of the bad things is that owners of the sgs2 cant seem to find the search function on this site, neither can they read the threads that have been posted before their own 'totally unique' thread.
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marcon10 said:
I've heard that on some batches theres a screen issue a little yellow light. Any more defects? Also this can be helpful to others. Thank you. +rep
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i heard about wifi ,heat ,gps and pink dots on pictures when using camera
stoney73 said:
One of the bad things is that owners of the sgs2 cant seem to find the search function on this site, neither can they read the threads that have been posted before their own 'totally unique' thread.
Its probably best you just read a couple of threads and decide for yourself. just remember that people only tend to post to complain, people almost never post to say they happy with a device.
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+178 fully agree!
The headphones output is awful. I have to play music at full volume with all the EQ bands maximised in the equaliser and I still can't get a decent level to combat street noise.
djbanging said:
The headphones output is awful. I have to play music at full volume with all the EQ bands maximised in the equaliser and I still can't get a decent level to combat street noise.
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Sounds like either you haven't got the headphones all the way in or that your headphones are naff. I can't maximise the sound without hurting my ears!
I've tried several different pairs of headphones and they are definitely all the way in. I've spent most of my spare time this week trying to sort it out.
djbanging said:
The headphones output is awful. I have to play music at full volume with all the EQ bands maximised in the equaliser and I still can't get a decent level to combat street noise.
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Christ are you deaf?
If I put the volume higher than half way with headphones, it hurts the crap outta my ears.
No. This wasn't the case with my iPhone 3G and I've had other friends listen as well.
What are all the bad things about the Galaxy S 2?
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Here's one, there's no control over who can buy it.
Instead of just accepting that, based on their needs, the display, battery life, camera, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, audio, GPS, and/or 2/3/4G signal might not meet their expectations, rather than return the phone, people start a trillion threads seeking affirmation of their issue. Then, the rest of the minority having the same issue(s) pile on to all basically say the same thing. After exhausting each other and running a thread up to 20+ pages someone will start another just to repeat all that was said again. And you know what, it doesn't matter that the SGS1, DHD, iP4, or N8 were better at certain things than the SGS2. The phone is what it is and may not ever be as good as either it should be or you want it to be. Take what Samsung has on offer and accept that or return the phone and get something that serves your needs better.
Either my particular device is a rock star in the top 1% of all those made or my expectations are lower or perhaps more reasonable than others. This is after all a phone, not a device for managing nuclear weapons. Regardless, if the phone didn't meet my needs sufficiently I wouldn't create 1,000 posts and martyr myself, I'd return it and get something else that better served me. I had a G2X which was as horrible a device as ever produced. When I read on that forum that all I was experiencing was common I lost quite a bit of money to dump it and get an SGS2. Hint.
BarryH_GEG said:
Here's one, there's no control over who can buy it.
Instead of just accepting that, based on their needs, the display, battery life, camera, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, audio, GPS, and/or 2/3/4G signal might not meet their expectations, rather than return the phone, people start a trillion threads seeking affirmation of their issue. Then, the rest of the minority having the same issue(s) pile on to all basically say the same thing. After exhausting each other and running a thread up to 20+ pages someone will start another just to repeat all that was said again. And you know what, it doesn't matter that the SGS1, DHD, iP4, or N8 were better at certain things than the SGS2. The phone is what it is and may not ever be as good as either it should be or you want it to be. Take what Samsung has on offer and accept that or return the phone and get something that serves your needs better.
Either my particular device is a rock star in the top 1% of all those made or my expectations are lower or perhaps more reasonable than others. This is after all a phone, not a device for managing nuclear weapons. Regardless, if the phone didn't meet my needs sufficiently I wouldn't create 1,000 posts and martyr myself, I'd return it and get something else that better served me. I had a G2X which was as horrible a device as ever produced. When I read on that forum that all I was experiencing was common I lost quite a bit of money to dump it and get an SGS2. Hint.
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Nicely put
Here's one, there's no control over who can buy it.
Seems like one of the main qualifications is lack of search button willing to try anything without reading the instructions .Must have is to post the same topic as others post hijack threads etc .
The idiot quota is much higher than on SGS 1 and approaching Nokia levels .,
Most of us where in that category but actually took time to read the FAQS work our way through the posts to gain an understanding before attempting anything .
Now its read the first sentence and flash .
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djbanging said:
I've tried several different pairs of headphones and they are definitely all the way in. I've spent most of my spare time this week trying to sort it out.
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the one you have tried, are they all iphone headphones?
marcon10 said:
I've heard that on some batches theres a screen issue a little yellow light. Any more defects? Also this can be helpful to others. Thank you. +rep
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OP, from my experience (i was one of the later people to get the phone)
I do not have heat issues.
I do not have battery issues.
My sound is amazing and very loud.
My earphones sound AWESOME, and EVEN better with 5.1 surround sound turned on (built in on music player)
My GPS locates in 1-3 seconds - it once took 5 seconds, with or without wifi.
My device does not creek.
My screen has no banding issues.
My screen has no yellow tinge/yellow spot.
My camera has no red dot/spot.
IF YOU WANT THIS PHONE. Get it, and the chances are you will have a similar device to mine, a perfectly working one.
Remember the forums are a concentration of all the phones. If you put these problem into the proportion of devices that have been made and sold (god knows how many at least 3 million plus), a absolutely minute proportion have these issues.
I had the exact same fears as you, so, go for it and you won't regret it!
Same as Daivik
Well , except on the heat, but i blame for now the apps I use for this overheating :
FPse and snes9x EX
for me it's for now an application problem (poorly or not optimized yet for dual cores ) so I cope with the heat while waiting for updates.
Totally satisfied with the SGS2 as it is
daivik said:
OP, from my experience (i was one of the later people to get the phone)
I do not have heat issues.
I do not have battery issues.
My sound is amazing and very loud.
My earphones sound AWESOME, and EVEN better with 5.1 surround sound turned on (built in on music player)
My GPS locates in 1-3 seconds - it once took 5 seconds, with or without wifi.
My device does not creek.
My screen has no banding issues.
My screen has no yellow tinge/yellow spot.
My camera has no red dot/spot.
IF YOU WANT THIS PHONE. Get it, and the chances are you will have a similar device to mine, a perfectly working one.
Remember the forums are a concentration of all the phones. If you put these problem into the proportion of devices that have been made and sold (god knows how many at least 3 million plus), a absolutely minute proportion have these issues.
I had the exact same fears as you, so, go for it and you won't regret it!
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cheers been waiting for some positivity
marcon10 said:
cheers been waiting for some positivity
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Glad, but it's the truth, from me. Not just saying it to make you get the phone. The phone truly is epic and Samsung, have done a good job, hardware-wise, software-wise and design-wise.
blackhawk1 said:
the one you have tried, are they all iphone headphones?
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No, of course not. It's the same on my Numark cans and even on my M-audio studio monitors. I can't believe that people are saying that this phone is loud - there must be something wrong with my handset.

Lets see how many have issues and which issues.

This is a poll about the many defects our primes are shipping with...
If you dont have an issue at all with any defects then please post a comment here so we can see how many are not having issues.
If you do not have a prime or you dont want to hear any negatives about the pricey device you just purchased then don't post at all please.
Give the guy a break, this is serious issue. We need to know as much as we can so we can decide to get or wait for issue to resolve. Many people are reporting GPS problem. I could pick one up now but not going to until more people chime in that their GPS is working properly.
If you test your GPS make sure it's not using wifi to determine location.
Negative people attract negative energy/negative things. Might be karma for all those nitpicking issues before they even received the prime. They self fulfilled issues..lol. J/k
Seriously, this poll could be a good thing. To address any "Real" issues people are experiencing. I think the title tries to imply this device is riddled with defects, as only some are reporting. There are still plenty of those out there not really having issues. I will make sure to test all these things also when I receive mines. If it does have a minor issue, not a big deal. Either wait for update to fix it or exchange. No device ever released has ever been perfect or didn't have bugs/issues. The most popular tablet of all, apple ipad2, had almost 100% of initial launch supply suffering from backlight bleeding.
demandarin said:
Seriously, this poll could be a good thing. To address any "Real" issues people are experiencing. I think the title tries to imply this device is riddled with defects, as only some are reporting. There are still plenty of those out there not really having issues. I will make sure to test all these things also when I receive mines. If it does have a minor issue, not a big deal. Either wait for update to fix it or exchange. No device ever released has ever been perfect or didn't have bugs/issues. The most popular tablet of all, apple ipad2, had almost 100% of initial launch supply suffering from backlight bleeding.
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I know you dont have a prime yet and have been known to be a troll. This is a poll about transformer prime defects not apple or any other device.
Its not that hard to understand. But i see that kids will be kids i suppose. Anyone that is here for useful information please just ignore the kiddies that plague the transformer prime xda forum.
jzen said:
I know you dont have a prime yet and have been known to be a troll. This is a poll about transformer prime defects not apple or any other device.
Its not that hard to understand. But i see that kids will be kids i suppose. Anyone that is here for useful information please just ignore the kiddies that plague the transformer prime xda forum.
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idk if you meant to quot his post or not but he was agreeing with the OP unlike the other guys that you didn't quote... This is something good for the forum though the title could be worded a little different?
Why not have a "No issues" in the voting? It will put the other numbers in perspective.
skinien said:
Why not have a "No issues" in the voting? It will put the other numbers in perspective.
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Agreed. Without that option, it would appear that every Prime has one issue or another.
skinien said:
Why not have a "No issues" in the voting? It will put the other numbers in perspective.
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+1 I was thinking the same thing. If you have 6 people saying they have problems, and 200 that have no problems, there's no way to capture that. It gives a false impression at first glance.
I would add the opposite for each of your choices.. that those work.
I was going to add that option but it wont let you add to the poll once its already created, sorry but this will still be useful information to see.
Its sad that the only people that have posted are trolls that don't even own a prime let alone have a brain...
Update, just opened my prime. Right after opening it the first thing i noticed was screen bleed/light leak coming from the right side and bottom of the screen. It isnt too bad but noticeable on a total black screen and on the status bar which is black.
Wifi was weak at first but then I did a system update which improved it a bit (i think, seems to fluctuate from low to ok but its better than just being low i suppose).
GPS does not work at all just like everyone else i know who also received their primes.
Thank god I dont have any dead pixels. and my bundled game controller is sexy!
Kick and scream all you want but this device does have defects just like any device, this is a place for people to find out what type of defects to expect. I continue to be amazed with how many childish trolls roam these transformer prime threads but I guess with a name like Transformer Prime it was bound to happen lol
Battery status does not tell me anything. It just says the status is unavailable.
Maybe my prime is bugged to death. GPS issue and now this...
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not a single issue all works.. but its acanadian model... hahh
The poll needs another answer:
-No Problems
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The poll needs another answer:
-No Problems
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Same here.
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You cannot add another option to polls. Sorry, correct me if I am wrong and I will be more than happy to add it.
GPS works nicely for me with a quick lock (12 sats), no WiFi issues buuut there's definite backlight bleeding.
The above image is with max brightness in super ips mode. There is similar spot on the other corner too.
jzen said:
I was going to add that option but it wont let you add to the poll once its already created, sorry but this will still be useful information to see.
Its sad that the only people that have posted are trolls that don't even own a prime let alone have a brain...
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I have yet to see a single trollish post in this thread besides yours. Ive read nearly every post in this forum and do not think of demandarin as a troll. This information IS somewhat useless without the 'no problems' option. I'm sorry i voted before reading your posts. What may i ask is your age since u seem to think everyone else is a trolling child?
For the sake of data i have very slight light bleed and nonworking gps. Wouldnt trade it for any other tablet though.
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I have a bright spot under my glas. No real dead pixel but more like they are not able to go in the same state like the other pixels around...
Besides this and not working GPS i have no problem: Not dead pixel, no annoying light bleeding, no dust under the screen... The quality is much better than it was with my Transformer.
everyone with an issue chill out and wait for more updates unless its hardware obviously go exchange it
contrary to everyone my gps is perfect so is wifi although i have dead pixles
My seems good. One thing i did notice was when i turned my gps off, the icon still flashes and looks for signal.
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Returned Prime - But included meaningful personal thoughts here..

Here's a "useless" post from me: I regrettably returned my Prime today to OD. I was having questionable wifi performance on my Prime. I'm a PC/Network tech that has everything I own tweaked to perfection, including my router. It's the RT-N16 (Asus). 7' away, signal dropped from 20Mbps down to 11Mbps. With Bluetooth on, it dropped to 325Kbps. The serial # started with B___ (I think BCKOS?) I don't have it in front of me, but it's the older hardware version. Anyway, so I had it boxed up two days ago, but unboxed it last night, as I really didn't want to return it. I figured since I had done a hard reset, that MAYBE it would magically fix itself. However, I spent a few hours browsing XDA, and testing the prime as much as I could and still ended up boxing it back up and shipping it out today. Looking around at other options, as I need something for work, I honestly don't want anything else. I want my Prime back... Just... Working.
My buddy is also looking for a tablet, and before I decided to return mine, he was about to purchase one. I called him yesterday and just told him to hold off.. It IS the best tablet out there, but the few quirks just need fixed before it's something I can recommend.
Issues I had with mine:
1. GPS was horrible (never flexed tablet to see if it'd fix it)
2. Wifi at close range worked good, anything more than 5' dropped considerably
3. With Bluetooth on & connected to headset would bring Wifi speeds to a crawl
4. Browser would hang on loading pages, and wouldn't allow scrolling, often times would state that "browser is unresponsive" and ask if i wanted to wait or close
5. Background formatting was a hassle. Nothing ever fit right (unless i followed some 3rd party tweaks)
6. Updates for Camera/GPS never did anything or improved anything.
7. Tegra 3 Optimized games would hang. Often times screen would go haywire or would open & close instantly without loading the game.
Ultimately, it came down to this: I honestly think that the OP was correct that the pins are the main culprit. I don't think it's something that can be fixed via a software update. Also, I am pretty upset that Asus is making the customer pay for shipping. It is their fault these tablets are having these problems, not the customer. I have always been a fan of Asus, and I'm not going to say that the problems with this tablet are going to make me never purchase another Asus product again.. I mean, look at their history with mainboards & video cards.. Some have issues, but you all know that if you were going to put your trust into either of those products, Asus would be something you would feel comfortable recommending.
I don't feel that we should say "poor Asus" and stroke their ego. I think us, as consumers should stand our ground and demand free shipping to the repair facility for a mistake they made. Just as they'd expect you to pay if you broke it and needed it fixed. They broke it, they fix it. Pretty plain and simple. Anyway, good luck to everyone here. I will be closely monitoring this forum, as I really want the issues resolved quickly.. I can't wait to have that beast in my arms again.
Unfortunately I'm in the same boat. Mine is going back this weekend. I gave it two weeks, but random browser freezes, minor light bleed, game crashes, gps, low wifi power, and all the rest add up to a poor user experience. Make your opinion known with your wallet.
briderx said:
My buddy is also looking for a tablet, and before I decided to return mine, he was about to purchase one. I called him yesterday and just told him to hold off..
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If the pogo pins turn out to be the reason for different wireless performance between Prime's, Asus is going to have to come clean like they did with GPS. They can either do it actively (mea culpa) or passively (change the design on future units). If they take the latter path someone here on XDA will figure it out. Regardless, this seems potentially too big to ignore so hopefully there will be some sort of communication and/or design change. Once either occurs people can buy/re-buy with confidence. An uglier route would be for Asus to continue to produce low volumes of Prime's as-is to save face until the TF700's are available. It's obviously not a customer-centric approach but recoups their investment in the Prime and maintains a revenue stream in the short-term. Although the returns have to be killing them from a profitability perspective.
I've been accused of being a conspiracy theorist so I never mentioned this before. But if you watch this official Asus video from CES, their rep makes a big deal at the beginning about the Prime being sold alongside the TF700. Later in the video when talking about the TF700's back cover design he twice mentions the Prime in the past tense saying "had" and "did have." Don't shoot the messenger.
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After that, I might re-consider my position.
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You guys that are taking such a "the Prime's great" stance might want to be a little less confident in your positions. There are issues large and small that affect more than just a handful of devices. Some of the people that have provided commentary on the more serious wireless issues have been h/w engineers and what’s been discussed can’t be fixed with a Band Aid. This isn't just a case of "fanboys" vs. "haters" like you typically see in most forums.
With today's discussion on the pogo pin choice for connecting the Wi-Fi chip to its antennas, there's some serious questions that need to be answered. As all these issues keep accumulating, keep in the back of your mind Asus announced a new device with identical features to the Prime less than three weeks after it was released. They may co-exist peacefully for a long time or Asus could pull the Prime (or put a non-HD display on the TF700 and call it the TF600) soon after it's released as a way of addressing the Prime's shortcomings. With the amount of returns, RMA’s for repair, and scarcity which points to manufacturing issues, what profit their making is quickly evaporating. And no company continues to produce a product they don't make money on. If they do pull or replace the Prime, many will remember those that staunchly supported the Prime when logic dictates there's something very troubling about how it’s come to market.
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And no company continues to produce a product they don't make money on. If they do pull or replace the Prime, many will remember those that staunchly supported the Prime when logic dictates there's something very troubling about how it’s come to market.
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There you go, putting Asus on the spot again. There is NO WAY they released this tablet without knowing about the GPS, WiFi, WiFi+BT issues. They knew about all of it, but their analysts computed that selling it "as is" would be more profitable than recalling it and fixing it.
For 99% of us, we are happy with screen bleed, bad WiFi range, no GPS, screen colors bad, chargers that fall apart, no BT with Wifi, dead pixels and random reboots. Those issues are non-issues, we love our Primes unconditionally.
Go troll someplace else.
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For 99% of us, we are happy with screen bleed, bad WiFi range, no GPS, screen colors bad, chargers that fall apart, no BT with Wifi, dead pixels and random reboots. Those issues are non-issues, we love our Primes unconditionally.
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If you're being facetious, that's hysterical.
Go troll someplace else.
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If you're being serious, those are big words for someone with a whopping 19 posts, all in this forum, and all this month.
Maybe.
I'm almost 1-for-2 thanks for posts though.
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Maybe.
I'm almost 1-for-1 thanks for posts though.
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Not a difficult strategy to accumulate "thanks." Demandarin's gotten hundreds that way in a few weeks. Simply jump in to any thread that has an even slightly negative slant and unleash a torrent of positive adjectives. That way, those that are blinded by love for their Prime's will in unison give you tons of thanks for contributing nothing of substance to the discussion. Keep up the good work. You should be at a 100 thanks in no time if that's what you're aiming for.
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Not a difficult strategy to accumulate "thanks." Demandarin's gotten hundreds that way in a few weeks. Simply jump in to any thread that has an even slightly negative slant and unleash a torrent of positive adjectives. That way, those that are blinded by love for their Prime's will in unison give you tons of thanks for contributing nothing of substance to the discussion. Keep up the good work. You should be at a 100 thanks in no time if that's what you're aiming for.
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Not my goal Barry, I just try to point out the obvious. I actually agree with most of your posts and have sent you Thanks.
I haven't been around long, but Asus really screwed the pooch on TFP. But for some unknown reason, some people act like TFP is a dear family member and defend it way beyond reason.
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Not my goal Barry, I just try to point out the obvious. I actually agree with most of your posts and have sent you Thanks.
I haven't been around long, but Asus really screwed the pooch on TFP. But for some unknown reason, some people act like TFP is a dear family member and defend it way beyond reason.
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Well shoot, you were being facetious. I love wicked humor.
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Cool starry bra.
This morning I woke up, took a shower and went to work. Then I went to lunch.
Fact is, NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU DID!!!!
My TFP has screen bleed, bad WiFi, WiFi/BT issues, no GPS and creaky screen. I don't ask for advice or sympathy. I suck it up and deal with it, knowing that my TFP is the most awesome tablet ever designed.
Good luck with your A700, iPad3, whatever when it comes out. But for the next 2 weeks or so, my TFP will smoke the specs of your next device.
After that, I might re-consider my position.
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I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but if you were talking to me (OP), look at my post:
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I will be closely monitoring this forum, as I really want the issues resolved quickly.. I can't wait to have that beast in my arms again.
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Meaning: I loved my Prime.. No question, hands down it was awesome. Unfortunately for me, using this for business (as I also stated in OP) wasn't an option. And, again, as I stated above, I will be repurchasing it. Just, after the issues that I have with it are fixed. I didn't complain and ask for opinions either.. I formulated my own and acted on my opinion well before posting this.
What's the point of a forum, if you can only post good things about a product? I don't have to agree with your statements, nor do you have to agree with mine.. Both are acceptable! I say, by all means man, if it works for you, keep it! I would too if I didn't have to rely on adequate wifi, or the occasional GPS lock. I was fine with the games crashing.. I didn't want it for games. But all the problems added up to something I feel would ultimately be useless for me to utilize.
If you weren't talking to me, disregard all the above
I get 10 meg down approx 30-35 feet away through 4 walls. The same or better tests than I get with my other devices.
I used to be able to lock GPS still, but not moving, after a pinch near the GPS connector I can lock fine while going 70mph.
No crashes.
No screen bleed.
No color issues or bright spots.
No force closing apps so far.
Dock connects solidly and works great.
Sucks to be y`all.
Yeah, my screen was perfect.. The light bleed was next to zero.. Nothing more than any other devices I own. I also had no dead pixels. Upon upgrading to ICS (did it within the first 5 hours owning it) I had I think 2 random reboots, that was the first day I owned it. Didn't have any after that. I didn't want to pinch the screen, because I was scared of denting it or breaking it, and knowing my luck, it would have happened moments before returning it . I contemplated picking up a newer serial # one, but while in OD, they didn't have any in stock.. I was hoping maybe they had one on display that I could have checked to see if performance was better (browser/wifi) and then just grab another. I posted my serial # above to also let people know, that I was evidently in the group with "older hardware". So, my experiences may have been a bit limited.. I feel naked without mine now
Edit: Kids also keep asking me to get it back because I purchased a few of the Bearenstain Bears books, as well as some free books for kids on the kindle marketplace.. Probably the one thing I miss most. Ha.
Not that it matter or you care, but I have the BC serial that is "older hardware."
Gary posted a possible fix of manually reverting back to HC, changing some setting to what appears to be "normal" and then re-updating to ICS. I didn't touch a thing before upgrading to ICS, but I know some of you got yours before ICS was out.
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Not that it matter or you care, but I have the BC serial that is "older hardware."
Gary posted a possible fix of manually reverting back to HC, changing some setting to what appears to be "normal" and then re-updating to ICS. I didn't touch a thing before upgrading to ICS, but I know some of you got yours before ICS was out.
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What's it supposed to do? I'm curious.. It'd be nice if it fixed some of the app lockups i experienced & the browser sluggishness.. I did mention above, that I did do a factory reset (not manual downgrade then re-upgrade like you posted) hoping maybe that'd fix some of it..
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What's it supposed to do? I'm curious.. It'd be nice if it fixed some of the app lockups i experienced & the browser sluggishness.. I did mention above, that I did do a factory reset (not manual downgrade then re-upgrade like you posted) hoping maybe that'd fix some of it..
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He did not mention what the cuplrit was, but I think it was in reference to the random crashing.
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I get 10 meg down approx 30-35 feet away through 4 walls. The same or better tests than I get with my other devices.
I used to be able to lock GPS still, but not moving, after a pinch near the GPS connector I can lock fine while going 70mph.
No crashes.
No screen bleed.
No color issues or bright spots.
No force closing apps so far.
Dock connects solidly and works great.
Sucks to be y`all.
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Trust me, this won't last. You'll notice some form or fashion of screen defects in a couple of weeks, just in time for your policy to have expired for a return/exchange... in which case you will be forced to ship it off to ASUS.
That will be the cost of your smug sense of self-worth.
I don't believe in a "perfect" TFP, because that would be less likely than seeing a Double-Rainbow, all the way.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk
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Trust me, this won't last. You'll notice some form or fashion of screen defects in a couple of weeks, just in time for your policy to have expired for a return/exchange... in which case you will be forced to ship it off to ASUS.
That will be the cost of your smug sense of self-worth.
I don't believe in a "perfect" TFP, because that would be less likely than seeing a Double-Rainbow, all the way.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk
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Yes of course, I'll trust the random guy on a forum. I won't consider the multiple friends with them who don't have issues. When a hundred people on a forum complain that means every tablet is bunk.
And by the way, every rainbow is a double rainbow, look a little harder next time.
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Yes of course, I'll trust the random guy on a forum. I won't consider the multiple friends with them who don't have issues. When a hundred people on a forum complain that means every tablet is bunk.
And by the way, every rainbow is a double rainbow, look a little harder next time.
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Yeah, but is it all the way across the sky?
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Yeah, but is it all the way across the sky?
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It's always the same as the main rainbow, just dimmer and the colors are flipped. I have seen plenty, along with a triple rainbow across the whole sky outside of redrocks in I believe 2008.

Right, that's it: I'm done with this piece of crap

First off: I am not anti-Google. I use all the main Google apps. I have had four Android phones, own 2 Nexus 7's and would take Android over iOS any day of the week.
But...
I am through with this piece of crap that passes for the Nexus 10.
Since buying this thing when it first came out I have had to put up with dodgy wifi connections, creaky flexing back panels, random freezes and reboots, and - worst of all - deal-breakingly poor quality control on the screens. I have been through several RMAs with Google Play (to the point where they are refusing to send me any more replacements - and at the moment they are not even replying to my emails) and am now on my 5th device. All of the devices have had unacceptable levels of light bleed, and - worse still - blotchy screens with uneven yellow or blue tints. I have been through nightmares with the Play store and TNT trying to get devices returned and shipped, and have a pile of email correspondence so long that it could be turned into a Peter Jackson trilogy. The Play store is staffed by some of the greatest morons that I have ever had the misfortune to have to deal with. I have constantly been given wrong or misleading information, and have had to harass and badger them at every stage to get anything done. I still have a device listed as 'pending' on my Google Wallet that has long since been returned, despite being told on numerous occasions that an 'expert' was going to remove it.
For anyone with a perfect device, or who is just happy with their's however it is: I am genuinely pleased for you. This could, and more importantly, should, have been an amazing piece of kit. But as it is, my time with the Nexus 10 has been, without any shadow of a doubt, the absolute worst customer experience I have had in my entire life, by a long country mile.
My blotchy, creaky, light bleedy slab of **** is going back. I'll be getting a full refund and returning to my long neglected iPad. Which actually works like it's supposed to.
YMMV
my two cents
When you got the second sample and were still unhappy then it was masochistic to keep trying. You should have given up and ended the pain way before getting to the fifth device. Clearly it is not designed to the quality you require and most, if not all, of the samples were probably typical of the quality of everyone else's.
Crap is in the eye of the beholder. Many others, including myself, are not sensitive to the defects you point out. I don't care about an occasional reboot (which only happened in the first day for me), the light bleed, case cracking sounds, etc. Different people have different needs.
You were asking the support people to make the product right for you, which is probably impossible given that particular design. How do you expect them to behave? They certainly aren't going to say the nexus 10 is **** and they also can't say that you are wrong. The nexus 10 is not **** for most people and you are not wrong for wanting a particular level of quality.
To make a long story short you should walk away and spend your energy finding something better instead of banging your head against a lost cause.
+1 for "my two cents"
Well it took me forever to get a good one... Returns and repairs but its pretty good now.
Funny you praise the nexus 7 while cursing this one. I got 8 crap n7s in a row. Finding one without bleed and lifted screen is like finding a unicorn. The ones not plagued by screen issues are pretty cool... The same can be said for the n10.
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First off: I am not anti-Google. I use all the main Google apps. I have had four Android phones, own 2 Nexus 7's and would take Android over iOS any day of the week.
But...
I am through with this piece of crap that passes for the Nexus 10.
Since buying this thing when it first came out I have had to put up with dodgy wifi connections, creaky flexing back panels, random freezes and reboots, and - worst of all - deal-breakingly poor quality control on the screens. I have been through several RMAs with Google Play (to the point where they are refusing to send me any more replacements - and at the moment they are not even replying to my emails) and am now on my 5th device. All of the devices have had unacceptable levels of light bleed, and - worse still - blotchy screens with uneven yellow or blue tints. I have been through nightmares with the Play store and TNT trying to get devices returned and shipped, and have a pile of email correspondence so long that it could be turned into a Peter Jackson trilogy. The Play store is staffed by some of the greatest morons that I have ever had the misfortune to have to deal with. I have constantly been given wrong or misleading information, and have had to harass and badger them at every stage to get anything done. I still have a device listed as 'pending' on my Google Wallet that has long since been returned, despite being told on numerous occasions that an 'expert' was going to remove it.
For anyone with a perfect device, or who is just happy with their's however it is: I am genuinely pleased for you. This could, and more importantly, should, have been an amazing piece of kit. But as it is, my time with the Nexus 10 has been, without any shadow of a doubt, the absolute worst customer experience I have had in my entire life, by a long country mile.
My blotchy, creaky, light bleedy slab of **** is going back. I'll be getting a full refund and returning to my long neglected iPad. Which actually works like it's supposed to.
YMMV
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Cool story
You know, I can see your point, but I can't see how it merits a new thread here.
What do we gain from reading it? What do you gain from us having read it? (I can totally understand what you gained by writing it, but why not pin in on a wall, be it real or virtual?).
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You know, I can see your point, but I can't see how it merits a new thread here.
What do we gain from reading it? What do you gain from us having read it? (I can totally understand what you gained by writing it, but why not pin in on a wall, be it real or virtual?).
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It is possible @boominski is a troll. Just saying.
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You know, I can see your point, but I can't see how it merits a new thread here.
What do we gain from reading it? What do you gain from us having read it? (I can totally understand what you gained by writing it, but why not pin in on a wall, be it real or virtual?).
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He is sharing his bad experience. Anyone looking to buy a Nexus 10 should be aware of both the good side, and bad sides.
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He is sharing his bad experience. Anyone looking to buy a Nexus 10 should be aware of both the good side, and bad sides.
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There is a difference between useful sharing of a bad experience and trashing it. He seems to be saying that he was harmed and the world owes him something. No company owes anyone anything unless they misrepresent the product or are outright fraudulent.
I actually feel sorry for the support team on this one. Sending 5 units is beyond the call of duty. I would quit responding to his emails also. A friend of mine worked in support and he called these customers "screamers". There was nothing you could do to make them happy. He wanted to tell them to give up and buy a competitors product but he could have lost his job for saying that.
It is *possible* he is an apple fan coming here to troll. I'm not accusing him but I've seen this on other forums many times. The fact that he says he is going back to his iPad is a clue.
I feel so sorry to the customer service handle your case.
Such customer shall be doing such job to learn the lesson.
Requesting 5 times changing was ridiculous. If 2nd change not fulfil your requirements. Stop continue and by just requested for full refund as it was known the thing never right nor matter how many times you change it.
It was great for your continue using back your satisfied iPad.
Think twice in future before repeating such hilarious attitude.
Idk, on one hand, if he really wanted the device, 5 tries at it doesn't seem too bad. On the other hand, if decent QC was actually existent, then so many replacements wouldn't have to be issued to find an "acceptable" device (for $400 I wouldn't deal with excessive screen bleed nor a creaky back either; luckily I have neither on my first device though).
So, it's either deal with the QC flaws on a $400 device, or annoy CS because of lack of QC. Maybe annoying them will actually make Google/Samsung do some better QC
As for the Apple part, I do agree it is kind of unnecessary. But then again if that's the tablet that works for him, then meh.
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There is a difference between useful sharing of a bad experience and trashing it. He seems to be saying that he was harmed and the world owes him something. No company owes anyone anything unless they misrepresent the product or are outright fraudulent.
I actually feel sorry for the support team on this one. Sending 5 units is beyond the call of duty. I would quit responding to his emails also. A friend of mine worked in support and he called these customers "screamers". There was nothing you could do to make them happy. He wanted to tell them to give up and buy a competitors product but he could have lost his job for saying that.
It is *possible* he is an apple fan coming here to troll. I'm not accusing him but I've seen this on other forums many times. The fact that he says he is going back to his iPad is a clue.
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Not trolling at all. Actually reading this on my Nexus 7 rather than my iPad. Android is so far ahead of iOS it feels like a backward step to have to use it. Was going to sell the thing if the Nexus 10 turned out right. Such a shame since the N10 pisses all over the iPad in every respect. Apart from the defective screen, obviously. I can overlook the creaks (put it in a case) and the light bleed (don't watch films in the dark).I can even overlook the WiFi and reboot issues, but an uneven screen is a deal breaker. I use my tablets primarily for reading, so yellow patches are highly distracting. And as for the Play Store staff: I have come across some who have been extremely helpful, but I've also been repeatedly given wrong information, lied to and messed about. The customer service is genuinely appalling. As for just giving in: it took me three exchanges to get a decent iPad (uneven screen again), so am not inclined to throw in the towel. What would make me happy? A reasonably uniform screen. I'm not looking for perfection. I know these are mass produced consumer products. But equally I see no reason to spend £300 on something sub-standard. If Google don't want me returning things then they should get their quality control sorted out. And yes - writing this has been cathartic.
Good bye
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As someone who has worked in retail for 17 year in positions that involve selling the general public goods what you hear from over the top customers is usually about 40% truth and 60% exaggeration in the hopes it will escalate their problem and get it resolved quickly to `their' satisifaction. Typically what is considered `their satisfaction' is a set of goal posts that never stops moving.
The replacement collectors I pay no attention to.. There is one dude around here that his signature is how he's had 5 Nexus 10 replacements and 5 Nexus 4 replacements.. Seriously.. I can't take that seriously..
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As someone who has worked in retail for 17 year in positions that involve selling the general public goods what you hear from over the top customers is usually about 40% truth and 60% exaggeration in the hopes it will escalate their problem and get it resolved quickly to `their' satisifaction. Typically what is considered `their satisfaction' is a set of goal posts that never stops moving.
The replacement collectors I pay no attention to.. There is one dude around here that his signature is how he's had 5 Nexus 10 replacements and 5 Nexus 4 replacements.. Seriously.. I can't take that seriously..
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Which part of my post do you think is an exaggeration? The part where I said that I wasn't looking for perfection, could live with light bleed, wifi drop-outs and reboots, but drew the line at wanting a 'reasonably' even screen in terms of temperature and light distribution was a clue as to what I consider my 'goalposts' to be. My iPad isn't perfect: the screen is not 100% uniform and it has minor light bleed. My Nexus 7 isn't perfect: it has some light bleed, wifi drop-outs and the screen flicker issue. My Android phone isn't perfect: the screen is not 100% even. But are they acceptable? Yes. Because. even though consumer devices are not perfect, they are of a 'reasonable' quality.
That = 'goalposts'.
Why is that too hard for some people to understand?
Nothing in this world is perfection.
From all you write, you are finding for perfection but just not admit only.
Why life so hard? You can't be happy and satisfied forever as you are too towards for perfection. They is no such thing in this world!
this thing is sooo slugish and freezes after 4.2.2 update
this thing is going to my sisters 7 year old. I already told him if he drops and breaks it he will be doing us all a favor. ever since the 4.2.2 update it became laggy in all areas.
i think the only good thing about this thing was the ppi.....i did a lot of ebook reading.
I ordered ( just got the confirmation from microsoft) a surface pro. sorry google, i tried so many times along with 4 rma's and i just cant do this any more. please open those brick motar stores you keep talking about. it will make it easier for us to return your products.
...joe
The customer service representatives tell you to return it until you get one you are satisfied with. Not the other way around. They are quick to offer another RMA. I stopped after the second one had horrible light bleed because I didn't want to play THEIR game any more. I got a refund and got the hell out of the crappy RMA merry go round. I'm waiting to hear if they have fixed the quality control issues but sadly it still sounds like a crap shoot.
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this thing is going to my sisters 7 year old. I already told him if he drops and breaks it he will be doing us all a favor. ever since the 4.2.2 update it became laggy in all areas.
i think the only good thing about this thing was the ppi.....i did a lot of ebook reading.
I ordered ( just got the confirmation from microsoft) a surface pro. sorry google, i tried so many times along with 4 rma's and i just cant do this any more. please open those brick motar stores you keep talking about. it will make it easier for us to return your products.
...joe
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Really? for me after 4.2.2 I find the tablet is more responsiveness and battery life is improved - not sluggish at all. I have not had a reboot so far while using the tabet but did experience a few wifi drops (reconnected after a few seconds). Still trying to figure out where wifi drops happen as I'm running a Asus RT-N66U (with Tomato firmware).
I am running stock and lost root after the OTA upgrade. Have you tried a factory reset?
I genuinely can't believe that people see the need to RMA their N10 (or any device) due to the smallest things that they've found by specifically looking for them. Yes my N10 has light bleed and yes it did have problems with rebooting (before 4.2.2) but it doesn't bother me.
I would never use an LCD screen on full brightness in a dark room so will never notice the small amounts of light bleed it has. The reboots are a software issue that can be fixed by an update and are so infrequent that they are almost insignificant anyway. And a 'creaky back' definitely doesn't warrant getting the thing replaced; it's plastic so is bound to creak when you purposely flex it which you're not supposed to do.
Is anyone else shocked by the sheer number of people that will happily request multiple replacements because of the stupidest things and then wonder why the price increases or the customer service seems rushed? They've somehow got pay for all the testing, repackaging, restocking and reselling of these apparently 'defective' devices.

Confused In Screen Bleeding issues

I m Little Bit confused. Is this Screen bleeding or not can anyone confirm it?0
This cant be confirmed by looking at screenshot. You have to take picture of your display from another camera.
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I m Little Bit confused. Is this Screen bleeding or not can anyone confirm it?0
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I think too much of a hype is being created about the screen bleed issue.
I am of the opinion if the screen bleed is not interfering or degrading Ur phone experience including videos watching and day to day use, forget about it. As it is everybody concurs that this condition does not get worse with use
Everybody has different perception about what they want and no point in losing Ur peace of mind, just enjoy the phone.
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I think too much of a hype is being created about the screen bleed issue.
I am of the opinion if the screen bleed is not interfering or degrading Ur phone experience including videos watching and day to day use, forget about it. As it is everybody concurs that this condition does not get worse with use
Everybody has different perception about what they want and no point in losing Ur peace of mind, just enjoy the phone.
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True that I'm also seeing useless posts from everyone Owing new poco f1 it's not that big issue LCD panel does have this problem many premium companies also had this problem in thier products that used lcd panel, some people does have major bleeding and for that matter Xiaomi is replacing handset as said by jai mani on twitter. PLEASE PEOPLE STOP SPAMMING XDA AND TWITTER IT'S NOT THAT BIG ISSUE and many of us don't have this issue. As i said some people does have major bleeding and they should go to nearest service centre instead of spamming everyone and quoting heads of project after they answered what we can do about it. Peace.
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I m Little Bit confused. Is this Screen bleeding or not can anyone confirm it?0
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hahahahahha
manoj3101 said:
I m Little Bit confused. Is this Screen bleeding or not can anyone confirm it?0
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You have to take picture from another device for these issue.

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