I used to have the classic Mobile Network standby battery drain issue, until I flashed CalyxOS.
I left my phone with 100% battery before I went to bed last night and woke up this morning 8 hours later with no drain of any kind at all.
Might be an option for anyone else with the same issue.
Interesting. So that confirms it's a software issue and not hardware. Which is a relief. It means Google can fix it via OTA update. Hopefully enough people reported it that Google took notice. i am on chat with google now and they want me to factory reset. I was hoping to avoid that
wait just a question. you said 8 hours.those stats don't update for 24 hours. So you got 16 more hours to go till you know if the issue is fixed. that is why there are no stats at all on your screenshot. It just says battery data isn't available right now
Edit: ok I was wrong about that because I factory reset my phone (on the advise of Google support) and it's been 7 hours and I can see stats. But yes not losing anything In 8 hours is suspicious. I mean it could happen I guess my pixel 4xl got fantastic battery life and apparently mine was the only 4xl that got good battery life because everyone else hated the 4xl because of battery life. Anyway with my 4xl I would lose 1 or 2 percent overnight same with my 1,2,3a and 5. It's only the 6 that this is happening too. I just hope that it can be fixed with an software update.
8 hours with no drain is suspicious if you are not in Airplane mode. The clock, the weather app, email client, a bunch of things at least asks back for update preiodically, so it seems odd.
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8 hours with no drain is suspicious if you are not in Airplane mode. The clock, the weather app, email client, a bunch of things at least asks back for update preiodically, so it seems odd.
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He's pushing this OS all over the place, not sure why. Most people do not want to bl unlock, wipe their devices and gamble with a new OS that probably doesn't work with Google Pay. And I agree 8 hours with no drain? Not likely although I did have 0.4% / hour one night. Usual is around 0.8 - 1.0 / hour.
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8 hours with no drain is suspicious if you are not in Airplane mode. The clock, the weather app, email client, a bunch of things at least asks back for update preiodically, so it seems odd.
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Calyx doesn't do anything really in the background. It's de-Googled and has background processes limited or killed altogether. It is certainly possible to get this low idle drain considering OP is on wifi with what looks to be a very strong mobile network signal so the inefficient Exynos modem isn't draining it.
The downside of course is that a bunch of stuff doesn't work right on Calyx because there are no Play Services. You can't even access the stuff you bought IAP for...
I see. I don't say that it is bad. limiting or killing processes in deep sleep would hurt the notifications too, right? It is an interesting OS, but I would join to the others. I need my apps in a convenient way. I did modding in the past but now I appreciate phones that just work when I take them out from the box.
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He's pushing this OS all over the place, not sure why. Most people do not want to bl unlock, wipe their devices and gamble with a new OS that probably doesn't work with Google Pay. And I agree 8 hours with no drain? Not likely although I did have 0.4% / hour one night. Usual is around 0.8 - 1.0 / hour.
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Where am I pushing anything? I'm sorry that I'm excited I've managed to solve a problem and want to share it with others where it could help. But hey, you're welcome to keep scrolling if my posts bother you that much.
For anyone else who might be interested, I took my phone off charge this morning and have been using it for the last 5 hours receiving Whatsapp messages, emails, calendar notifications, Doorbell/CCTV notifications and doing light internet browsing and I've lost 2% battery so far.
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Where am I pushing anything? I'm sorry that I'm excited I've managed to solve a problem and want to share it with others where it could help. But hey, you're welcome to keep scrolling if my posts bother you that much.
For anyone else who might be interested, I took my phone off charge this morning and have been using it for the last 5 hours receiving Whatsapp messages, emails, calendar notifications, Doorbell/CCTV notifications and doing light internet browsing and I've lost 2% battery so far.
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You might have "solved" one problem but introduced countless others. If you're really that excited then give all the info not just overnight battery drain and be a little more forthcoming about the rom. I mean in reality if I turn off all network activity and put it into airplane mode I'd get the same results and probably even better. And then there's your thread of ...Why isn't everyone running CalyxOS? Maybe one thread would have been enough instead of cross posting the Pro and the P6. Anyway, I do believe you have gotten enough feedback so people know the pitfalls of the rom and the supposed benefits of longer battery life.
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You might have "solved" one problem but introduced countless others. If you're really that excited then give all the info not just overnight battery drain and be a little more forthcoming about the rom. I mean in reality if I turn off all network activity and put it into airplane mode I'd get the same results and probably even better. And then there's your thread of ...Why isn't everyone running CalyxOS? Maybe one thread would have been enough instead of cross posting the Pro and the P6. Anyway, I do believe you have gotten enough feedback so people know the pitfalls of the rom and the supposed benefits of longer battery life.
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I turned nothing off. If I had I would have said so. What's the point in posting my findings then? I would be useless wouldn't it? I don't have time to play games and lead people around the bush. I'm not 12 years old anymore.
So just to satisfy your curiosity, I use my phone in exactly the same way I have always used it. Bluetooth off, Wifi and mobile data on, location on when I need it but off at the moment. All my apps work just the same as before including my banking app. The only thing I don't use now is Google Pay, and two of my apps with in app purchases are not registered. Apart from that it is exactly how it was before.
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I turned nothing off. If I had I would have said so. What's the point in posting my findings then? I would be useless wouldn't it? I don't have time to play games and lead people around the bush. I'm not 12 years old anymore.
So just to satisfy your curiosity, I use my phone in exactly the same way I have always used it. Bluetooth off, Wifi and mobile data on, location on when I need it but off at the moment. All my apps work just the same as before including my banking app. The only thing I don't use now is Google Pay, and two of my apps with in app purchases are not registered. Apart from that
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Ok you stated your case across multiple threads and others have stated theirs. Time to move on don't you think?
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Where am I pushing anything? I'm sorry that I'm excited I've managed to solve a problem and want to share it with others where it could help. But hey, you're welcome to keep scrolling if my posts bother you that much.
For anyone else who might be interested, I took my phone off charge this morning and have been using it for the last 5 hours receiving Whatsapp messages, emails, calendar notifications, Doorbell/CCTV notifications and doing light internet browsing and I've lost 2% battery so far.
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Mobile network standby of 2 minutes with 5 hours off the charger suggests airplane mode was in use.
I don't care how much stuff you turn off in the background, there is no way you're getting a 2% loss from 5 hours of usage unless you used the phone for less than 30 minutes in those 5 hours.
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Mobile network standby of 2 minutes with 5 hours off the charger suggests airplane mode was in use.
I don't care how much stuff you turn off in the background, there is no way you're getting a 2% loss from 5 hours of usage unless you used the phone for less than 30 minutes in those 5 hours.
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Ok crack on buddy. Lol
Suspicious, yes, but then again... I used to be able to run my old Moto G3 for two weeks on a single charge with just a bare-bones LOS, no gapps and nothing else in the background, so it doesn't seem THAT unreasonable.
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I turned nothing off. If I had I would have said so. What's the point in posting my findings then? I would be useless wouldn't it? I don't have time to play games and lead people around the bush. I'm not 12 years old anymore.
So just to satisfy your curiosity, I use my phone in exactly the same way I have always used it. Bluetooth off, Wifi and mobile data on, location on when I need it but off at the moment. All my apps work just the same as before including my banking app. The only thing I don't use now is Google Pay, and two of my apps with in app purchases are not registered. Apart from that it is exactly how it was before.
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off topic : what camera apps are you using with calyxOS on your phone ?
i tried the stock camera app that comes with it on dec build was so basic.
will graphene camera v. 10 work for you ? https://github.com/GrapheneOS/Camera/releases/tag/10
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off topic : what camera apps are you using with calyxOS on your phone ?
i tried the stock camera app that comes with it on dec build was so basic.
will graphene camera v. 10 work for you ? https://github.com/GrapheneOS/Camera/releases/tag/10
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I'm using the Google camera app and Google Photos as my gallery with all network access cut off for both.
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I'm using the Google camera app and Google Photos as my gallery with all network access cut off for both.
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which version of the GCam and GPhotos that work for you ? and are you on calyxos december build ?
thank you !
Today mine manager to drain 10% overnight stating Mobile network WITH AIRPLANE MODE ENABLED.
Yes, for me battery on this phone is bad too
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Today mine manager to drain 10% overnight stating Mobile network WITH AIRPLANE MODE ENABLED.
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. I have it for weeks and nothing changed. Did clean install in December. I have only maybe 20-25 apps.. mine 2 year old op7t was doing better with a lot smaller battery :/ and this screen touch issues that are reported i other topic have them too...If google won't repair this two big problems until April i thing i will say goodbye to Pixel...
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which version of the GCam and GPhotos that work for you ? and are you on calyxos december build ?
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Not sure. The latest from the Play Store and whatever version is on Calyx website.
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My phone started dieing overnight and I was really confused because I could've sworn I had a lot of like left when I went to bed. So I did a test tonight...
Charged to 100% at 10:30pm
All background application closed, ram cleared
Wifi and GPS off
Results: after 8.5 hours of doing nothing, I lost over 75% battery.
Screenshots are below...WTF is happening with my phone?
Looks like something is keeping it from deep sleep. Download cpuspy and see if that is the case. When you click on phone stand by what does it say?
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Like this?
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Looks like something is keeping it from deep sleep. Download cpuspy and see if that is the case. When you click on phone stand by what does it say?
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It just says Time on 8h XXm XXs
Looks like Google talk is keeping it awake. Never used GT before so not sure if that is normal. I am having similar (but not as drastic) with ms exchange keeping mine in awake state. I am using ics alpha 2 Rom and did not have this issue on stock GB. What Rom are you using?
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It also looks like your cell signal isn't all that great so it's constantly pinging. Not sure about that though. Do you need data all the time? I use 2x battery so it severs data. Saves a **** ton of battery life.
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I noticed the Google Talk but I never use it, and it's installed on my phone, but I can find a way to uninstall it anywhere. It also doesn't give me an option to log out either.
Oh and I'm running the ICS alpha 2 ROM. I don't recall having this problem with GB.
I use the ICS -1 Click Odin leak (In progress of getting a better ICS loaded) but I have noticed that I run into a lot of Battery life problems when I am sleeping... If I leave my phone unplugged overnight it always dies, I have to charge it. It's weird... Because I can be on it all day with amazing Battery life, then it just dies over night with a full charge of not even being in use...
I probably need to run some analytics to see what is killing it in the first place... I always force close my apps though...
This happens on any OS, GB, or ICS...
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I noticed the Google Talk but I never use it, and it's installed on my phone, but I can find a way to uninstall it anywhere. It also doesn't give me an option to log out either.
Oh and I'm running the ICS alpha 2 ROM. I don't recall having this problem with GB.
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I had the same problem which is why I went back to GB. Remember this is an ATT leak of an unfinished ROM. they have all sorts of unfinished code and debugging running that it's bound to cause these issues.
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It also looks like your cell signal isn't all that great so it's constantly pinging. Not sure about that though. Do you need data all the time? I use 2x battery so it severs data. Saves a **** ton of battery life.
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BINGO!!! Just checked some screen capture from battery stats from GB and my cell strength was no ways near as bad as it is on ICS. Need to see if any fixes are out there. It almost all tan for signal strength on ICS vs all green in GB. Same locales for both samples.
by the way, i was getting between 1 day to 1.5 days on rooted GB oc'd to 1.84 with 4 hours screen time. Did not ever see exchange using any noticeable % of battery. Now getting 15 hours with 2 hours screen time and exchange using 6% of the battery. Not going back yet because the pro's out weigh the con's.
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Well that would suck if the ICS radio is a step backwards over the GB radio....
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Yep, it seems like the partial wakelocks are getting you.
It will go into deep sleep but then go up to 384 off and on.
Gtalk looks like the biggest culprit.
Like I said if data is off it shouldn't have wakelocks.
Another test you could do tonight is the exact same but put it in airplane mode.
It shouldn't budge much.....
I managed to find a way to log out of google talk, so I'll test it under the same conditions tonight to see if that changes anything.
Airplane mode overnight is not an option for me since I need cell service in case of emergency calls. Generally, I do notice slightly worse reception of the previous GB ROM, so the modem might be questionable.
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I managed to find a way to log out of google talk, so I'll test it under the same conditions tonight to see if that changes anything.
Airplane mode overnight is not an option for me since I need cell service in case of emergency calls. Generally, I do notice slightly worse reception of the previous GB ROM, so the modem might be questionable.
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Understood about the calls. You can get calls and texts without data though. That's why I was recommending 2x battery which is like juice defender I think. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.aDataOnOff&hl=en
I realized I really don't need data unless I 'want' data. I do push my emails but they won't push until I turn on data. Saves a lot of battery, especially when on LTE.....
It works well for me because you can set a delay for the data. So you can turn on your screen (not unlock) and see if you got any new texts. If not, put it back in my pocket. All without data coming on. I do these quick checks all time...
Then there is a delay time you can set after you unlock.
I have mine set to 3 min. If I do get a text, I will unlock, read it and maybe respond quickly, then put it back in my pocket. As long as its not mms that's all done without data.
If I need to get data prior to the 3min there is a notification to connect the data.
I'm coming from the thunderbolt and we had to REALLY find all the tricks to save battery life. As it given to us by HTC and Verizon it was unacceptable.
At any rate, sorry for the wind there. If you're wondering, I have no association with 2X battery. I just like to spread the word when I find an app that is useful and has helped me out.
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Understood about the calls. You can get calls and texts without data though. That's why I was recommending 2x battery which is like juice defender I think. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.aDataOnOff&hl=en
I realized I really don't need data unless I 'want' data. I do push my emails but they won't push until I turn on data. Saves a lot of battery, especially when on LTE.....
It works well for me because you can set a delay for the data. So you can turn on your screen (not unlock) and see if you got any new texts. If not, put it back in my pocket. All without data coming on. I do these quick checks all time...
Then there is a delay time you can set after you unlock.
I have mine set to 3 min. If I do get a text, I will unlock, read it and maybe respond quickly, then put it back in my pocket. As long as its not mms that's all done without data.
If I need to get data prior to the 3min there is a notification to connect the data.
I'm coming from the thunderbolt and we had to REALLY find all the tricks to save battery life. As it given to us by HTC and Verizon it was unacceptable.
At any rate, sorry for the wind there. If you're wondering, I have no association with 2X battery. I just like to spread the word when I find an app that is useful and has helped me out.
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I used to use juice defender but a couple things were a deal breaker for me:
1) First was that it rendered Cerberus almost completely useless. I could not get the phone to connect using the web interface at cerberusapp.com since the phone had no data with the screen off. Sure I could have used the SMS method of activation, but I don't have another phone to text from and it just isn't as flexible as the website.
2) Every time I unlocked the phone, I had to wait 10+ seconds for data to fully reconnect before I can start using stuff. When I unlock the phone, it's usually to check something very quick, and if I'm stuck waiting, I'd rather suffer the battery loss than to wait a bunch of times.
I suspect every battery saver app has this issue, and they can probably be configured to work to my needs, but I just don't have the time and patience to be tinkering with stuff like that.
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I used to use juice defender but a couple things were a deal breaker for me:
1) First was that it rendered Cerberus almost completely useless. I could not get the phone to connect using the web interface at cerberusapp.com since the phone had no data with the screen off. Sure I could have used the SMS method of activation, but I don't have another phone to text from and it just isn't as flexible as the website.
2) Every time I unlocked the phone, I had to wait 10+ seconds for data to fully reconnect before I can start using stuff. When I unlock the phone, it's usually to check something very quick, and if I'm stuck waiting, I'd rather suffer the battery loss than to wait a bunch of times.
I suspect every battery saver app has this issue, and they can probably be configured to work to my needs, but I just don't have the time and patience to be tinkering with stuff like that.
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JD Ultimate has an option that allows foreground apps to force enable/disable data, which is an easy thing to set. Also, my experience with JD is that data reconnects as soon as I unlock the phone and before I can launch an app. Battery saver apps are definitely frustrating, but I find that the correct settings fix 95% of the annoyances.
I hear ya on the time thing. Just thought I'd over up that tidbit. I don't seem to have much of a delay. 2x does allow for whitelisting apps you want to run like Pandora.
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Google Talk is like any other VoiP service, it will have a heartbeat that needs to talk back to the mothership every so many seconds.
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Google Talk is like any other VoiP service, it will have a heartbeat that needs to talk back to the mothership every so many seconds.
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Yup, that's exactly why I don't want it. If I rarely/never use the app, I don't want it constantly connected wasting my battery and data. I wish there was an easy way to turn that off. I've been reading on Google and there were posts from 1-2 years ago that said signing out of gtalk doesn't help with the wakelock, so we shall see tonight when I test it again.
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Yup, that's exactly why I don't want it. If I rarely/never use the app, I don't want it constantly connected wasting my battery and data. I wish there was an easy way to turn that off. I've been reading on Google and there were posts from 1-2 years ago that said signing out of gtalk doesn't help with the wakelock, so we shall see tonight when I test it again.
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Actually, there is (sort of). Purchase an app called Autostarts on the market. Open it, wait for it to finish loading, hit the menu button, then tap the 'group by application' option.
Then, scroll thru the list to Google Talk and tap it. This will expand a bunch of different conditions that Google Talk automatically starts under. Disabling every condition will cause the app to never automatically start in the background (but the app will still launch if you manually launch it). Since I dont currently have root, I cant see what the conditions are, but you might need to leave one or two enabled if you need to receive incoming calls.
Reboot your phone after making any changes.
I should also mention that if you manually launch the app, you need to remember to manually close the app if this is what you assume is causing the battery drain.
If nothing else, you can use Autostarts to help determine if Gtalk is what is causing the issue by just disabling everything for it and watching battery drain rate.
I also use another app called Battery Widget Pro by 3c which will tell you everything about the battery and what exactly is causing it to drain.
What I would do is disable everything unless it looks like its something for receiving calls (if you need to receive calls that is) and reboot the phone, then test it by using another phone to call your Google # and make sure it works.
The point is tho to disable everything you can. I personally use Autostarts to disable every user app that doesnt either have a widget or a scheduled process that needs to run in the background to perform its task. Helps a crap ton with battery life.
So looks like signing out of google talk did not help anything looking at more detail in the better battery stats it might be google maps that's causing all the wakeups
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So here I am, upgraded from the GS3. I understand that the ME7 radio is locked and that safestrap is the only option. But here's my dilemma. I used to get 14+ hours of battery life on my GS3. Now I'm lucky to get 8 hours, if I'm not touching the phone whatsoever. I've tried stock, Jellybeans, and Darkslide (seems to be my only options but feel free to prove me wrong.) Is this normal? Do I have a defunct device? This just seems extremely poor to me... They can't advertise that this phone is so much better if it's getting less battery life than the fricken S3...
Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference.
I also am pasting a picture of my battery in stock. You can see that in one day, I have to put it on the charger. Yes, I use wifi, but I honestly wasn't using the phone (and I do not have my apps installed.) The first fall on the graph is me using netflix for an hour (battery decline here is understandable). The second fall is my phone sitting on my desk while I'm at work. I'm on my computer, not my phone... and it's almost declining as much as if I was watching netflix. I've restarted it.... used the android task manager to kill the ram... you name it... Every rom I flash I've flashed is like this. It's astronomically frustrating...
I get awesome battery life with Hyperdrive have you tried that at all?
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SafeStrapped & Hyperdrived
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I get awesome battery life with Hyperdrive have you tried that at all?
Verizon Galaxy S4
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I have not, but I'm downloading it now. We'll see how it works!
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I get awesome battery life with Hyperdrive have you tried that at all?
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+1 Hyperdrive. 9.1 rocks my battery.
kyls2010 said:
So here I am, upgraded from the GS3. I understand that the ME7 radio is locked and that safestrap is the only option. But here's my dilemma. I used to get 14+ hours of battery life on my GS3. Now I'm lucky to get 8 hours, if I'm not touching the phone whatsoever. I've tried stock, Jellybeans, and Darkslide (seems to be my only options but feel free to prove me wrong.) Is this normal? Do I have a defunct device? This just seems extremely poor to me... They can't advertise that this phone is so much better if it's getting less battery life than the fricken S3...
Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference.
I also am pasting a picture of my battery in stock. You can see that in one day, I have to put it on the charger. Yes, I use wifi, but I honestly wasn't using the phone (and I do not have my apps installed.) The first fall on the graph is me using netflix for an hour (battery decline here is understandable). The second fall is my phone sitting on my desk while I'm at work. I'm on my computer, not my phone... and it's almost declining as much as if I was watching netflix. I've restarted it.... used the android task manager to kill the ram... you name it... Every rom I flash I've flashed is like this. It's astronomically frustrating...
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It's obvious that some apps you have installed are causing this, I can get 14+ easy on mine. I highly suggest using Greenify to hibernate misbehaving apps and try to use auto-brightness if you can stand it.
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The first time I read that I laughed out loud. The second time I read it - I thought yeah he would actually..or he'd write his own from scratch!
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A different rom wont make much difference if its something with the settings or a specific app you have running constantly. Do you have location services enabled. Thats a big one that causes alot of drain.
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It's obvious that some apps you have installed are causing this, I can get 14+ easy on mine. I highly suggest using Greenify to hibernate misbehaving apps and try to use auto-brightness if you can stand it.
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I had put in a side note above stating that I have been running without my apps installed, so it really can't/shouldn't be a case of misbehaving apps. "Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference."
I will definitely take a look at Greenify, and see if it helps me. Thank you for that suggestion.
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A different rom wont make much difference if its something with the settings or a specific app you have running constantly. Do you have location services enabled. Thats a big one that causes alot of drain.
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I had put in a side note above stating that I have been running without my apps. "Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference. " I did a ton of reading on this prior to flashing, but from what I see people are only reading my first sentence and trying to answer (which is why the, "Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way," comment irked me.) I have been a rooted android user since Droid X, so I know how to read/research/troubleshoot phone issues. Believe me, I've had to SBF that phone a million times because each flash was like a crapp shoot. This issue however is a commonality between multiple SGS4 roms (Stock, Jellybeans, and Darkslide).
I always shut my location services off the second I flash a rom (unless I need to use my navigator, which as mentioned, I don't have installed at the moment.) But this is definitely a valid troubleshooting question to ask.
kyls2010 said:
So here I am, upgraded from the GS3. I understand that the ME7 radio is locked and that safestrap is the only option. But here's my dilemma. I used to get 14+ hours of battery life on my GS3. Now I'm lucky to get 8 hours, if I'm not touching the phone whatsoever. I've tried stock, Jellybeans, and Darkslide (seems to be my only options but feel free to prove me wrong.) Is this normal? Do I have a defunct device? This just seems extremely poor to me... They can't advertise that this phone is so much better if it's getting less battery life than the fricken S3...
Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference.
I also am pasting a picture of my battery in stock. You can see that in one day, I have to put it on the charger. Yes, I use wifi, but I honestly wasn't using the phone (and I do not have my apps installed.) The first fall on the graph is me using netflix for an hour (battery decline here is understandable). The second fall is my phone sitting on my desk while I'm at work. I'm on my computer, not my phone... and it's almost declining as much as if I was watching netflix. I've restarted it.... used the android task manager to kill the ram... you name it... Every rom I flash I've flashed is like this. It's astronomically frustrating...
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Turn off Google location services, see if that helps. That was killing my battery on ME7, same as yours. If your not into rooting, the 4.3 update has fixed that bug, I'm back to 3.5ish hours of screen on time. I did give up root though, so pick your battle i guess.
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Turn off Google location services, see if that helps. That was killing my battery on ME7, same as yours. If your not into rooting, the 4.3 update has fixed that bug, I'm back to 3.5ish hours of screen on time. I did give up root though, so pick your battle i guess.
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FYI it is possible to retain root and take the update as explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408 If you've already updated though you'll just have to wait for an exploit.
To the OP: It's also possible you just have a bad battery... there have been cases of faulty batteries and some were even swelling up so perhaps you could try to get a replacement to see if it fixes it.
Here is a post I made a few months back..I was battling Horrible Battery life (approx 5-10% per hour). Since i caught the culprit in my home netork I get less than 1% drain idle per hour:
"I had bad battery life on my S4 right after release. I tracked it down to Multicast being ENABLED on one of my Access Points. I would recommend logging into your routers and/or) access points and look for anything related to Multicast and Disable it (or uncheck it).
Granted this was for a totally different device (note that my Nexus 7 was NOT affected by multicast) but it certainly cant hurt anything by disabling multicast..If it does, just enable it again.
My S4 was using approx 5%-8% of battery per hour with multicast enabled...once I disabled it, I now drain about 1% per hour.
This took me almost 2 weeks to discover...keeping in mind that my S4 never connected to the affected AP. I use that AP for older legacy devices.....just having it on the network affected my S4.
Give it a try..if it does not work..enable it again."
PS..disabling Google location services also helped me slightly with a runaway battery drain.
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FYI it is possible to retain root and take the update as explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408 If you've already updated though you'll just have to wait for an exploit.
To the OP: It's also possible you just have a bad battery... there have been cases of faulty batteries and some were even swelling up so perhaps you could try to get a replacement to see if it fixes it.
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Ya, I saw, but not having root is kind of a penance, makes me appreciate having it more when I do get it. I've also decided flashing roms gets old, but for sure I'm missing Xposed framework.
metalunna said:
Here is a post I made a few months back..I was battling Horrible Battery life (approx 5-10% per hour). Since i caught the culprit in my home netork I get less than 1% drain idle per hour:
"I had bad battery life on my S4 right after release. I tracked it down to Multicast being ENABLED on one of my Access Points. I would recommend logging into your routers and/or) access points and look for anything related to Multicast and Disable it (or uncheck it).
Granted this was for a totally different device (note that my Nexus 7 was NOT affected by multicast) but it certainly cant hurt anything by disabling multicast..If it does, just enable it again.
My S4 was using approx 5%-8% of battery per hour with multicast enabled...once I disabled it, I now drain about 1% per hour.
This took me almost 2 weeks to discover...keeping in mind that my S4 never connected to the affected AP. I use that AP for older legacy devices.....just having it on the network affected my S4.
Give it a try..if it does not work..enable it again."
PS..disabling Google location services also helped me slightly with a runaway battery drain.
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Amazing suggestion! I will definitely check that!
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FYI it is possible to retain root and take the update as explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408 If you've already updated though you'll just have to wait for an exploit.
I have been hawkeyeing that thread all day lol...
To the OP: It's also possible you just have a bad battery... there have been cases of faulty batteries and some were even swelling up so perhaps you could try to get a replacement to see if it fixes it.
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I'm seriously starting to consider that as well... I'm on hyperdrive now but it really hasn't improved that much. I'm currently sitting at 19% since 8:45 am this morning (currently 4:01 PM here). So I'm going to just dip over 8 hours today, sitting at work while on my computer mind you, which is still sad in my eyes...
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Turn off Google location services, see if that helps. That was killing my battery on ME7, same as yours. If your not into rooting, the 4.3 update has fixed that bug, I'm back to 3.5ish hours of screen on time. I did give up root though, so pick your battle i guess.
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I'm definitely considering that OTA w/survival mode... no doubt about it.
Today I was using Navigation for about 4 hours straight, GPS and location services on, with LTE, also using Bluetooth the whole time for music and Poweramp with some texting in between. I only dropped 35%. It definitely sounds like you got a lemon (either the battery or phone).
Wow, I am jealous... Yeah, I think you're right.
Hello everyone,
My s6 Edge does not go to sleep. It drains huge amount of battery while idle.
I need urgent help. I have disabled all AT&T bloatware. But it still does not work.
I have also tried hard resetting it, it does not work. Battery continues to drain.
Thank You.
Is this something new or has it always been like this? Btw, which version of LP are you on? 5.0.2 or 5.1.1?
Its new, LP v. 5.0.2
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Is this something new or has it always been like this? Btw, which version of LP are you on? 5.0.2 or 5.1.1?
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5.0.2 seems to be notorious for battery drains...check if your device has the 5.1.1 update which seems to be better in terms of RAM management. Also, are you data or wifi...if on data, then LP is again notorious for a world famous "mobile radio active" bug...it's all over the web...So, the best solution would be to either put the phone in deep freezer until Google fixes the huge bugs in LP or sell your phone...just kidding...
After updating your device (if there's any), do a factory reset...it should solve your problems...hopefully
Does not go to sleep? Check your settings about screen timeout..The battery drain can be fixes through system update..if samsung has any update ready
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I hard reseted my phone, disable all bloatwares, haven't installed any apps, haven't signed in to anything (even google, only signed into samsung account). charged to 100%. Left the phone for 4-5 hrs, battery drained to 81%.
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I was going to say just make sure you dont have too many apps running and you can also download a battery saving app on the play store for free which can help. It sounds like theres something you have running draining your battery though. Keep in mind however that the galaxy s6 edge when charged to 100 percent can hold a charge for quite awhile, but if your only charging it too around 40 or 50 percent it will die rather quickly.
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I hard reseted my phone, disable all bloatwares, haven't installed any apps, haven't signed in to anything (even google, only signed into samsung account). charged to 100%. Left the phone for 4-5 hrs, battery drained to 81%.
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What does it tell you in the battery stats? That's the first place to look. Is Screen at the top or something else like Google Services or a fitness tracking app? Send a screenshot of that as a starter for 10.
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I hard reseted my phone, disable all bloatwares, haven't installed any apps, haven't signed in to anything (even google, only signed into samsung account). charged to 100%. Left the phone for 4-5 hrs, battery drained to 81%.
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Your best bet is to install TWRP, root, and flash "No deep sleep fix", thats if you dont care about tripping knox of course.
Seems like an aggressive suggestion since we don't know the root cause yet. It might not be a wake lock issue; it could be location tracking or updates getting stuck. I'd rather see the battery stats first.
Screen is not even on the list, i haven't used my device for more than 15-20 mins (used chrome & inbox for 15-20 mins in the morning)
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Seems like an aggressive suggestion since we don't know the root cause yet. It might not be a wake lock issue; it could be location tracking or updates getting stuck. I'd rather see the battery stats first.
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What does it tell you in the battery stats? That's the first place to look. Is Screen at the top or something else like Google Services or a fitness tracking app? Send a screenshot of that as a starter for 10.
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I hard reseted my phone, disable all bloatwares, haven't installed any apps, haven't signed in to anything (even google, only signed into samsung account). charged to 100%. Left the phone for 4-5 hrs, battery drained to 81%.
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Screen is not even on the list, i haven't used my device for more than 15-20 mins (used chrome & inbox for 15-20 mins in the morning)
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Google Services like I thought. There's a number of things that can cause this as it's quite a fundamental service. The most simple fixes are:
- Make sure there's no pending updates in the Play store. These can work havoc with the battery when waiting for manual approval
- If this doesn't work, remove your google account, reboot and re-add it. For some reason this can fix the sync issues that cause drain
- Still no dice? The next one is to backup, factory format then restore your backup. It's a bit extreme but sometimes when you update your software it causes a glitch that only goes away with a factory format
Each time you try a fix, let the battery fully charge then check the stats a couple of hours later.
Thanks for the suggestion, I will let u know the results soon.
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Google Services like I thought. There's a number of things that can cause this as it's quite a fundamental service. The most simple fixes are:
- Make sure there's no pending updates in the Play store. These can work havoc with the battery when waiting for manual approval
- If this doesn't work, remove your google account, reboot and re-add it. For some reason this can fix the sync issues that cause drain
- Still no dice? The next one is to backup, factory format then restore your backup. It's a bit extreme but sometimes when you update your software it causes a glitch that only goes away with a factory format
Each time you try a fix, let the battery fully charge then check the stats a couple of hours later.
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You're welcome. If it's any conciliation I had exactly the same issue and fixed it this morning with those steps.
Google services is one of the biggest battery user but it still doesn't explain his erratic battery loss. I never turn off any features and get decent life.
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Tried the third step many times before, didn't work.
So, yesterday I tried the 1st & 2nd step, worked like a charm, I was happy but today, the same results (battery was draning like i was playing games). So I completely removed my google account and left my phone for a few hours. Here is the result (see attached). As you can see no Stupid Google Play Services in the list but what is eating my battery ????
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Google Services like I thought. There's a number of things that can cause this as it's quite a fundamental service. The most simple fixes are:
- Make sure there's no pending updates in the Play store. These can work havoc with the battery when waiting for manual approval
- If this doesn't work, remove your google account, reboot and re-add it. For some reason this can fix the sync issues that cause drain
- Still no dice? The next one is to backup, factory format then restore your backup. It's a bit extreme but sometimes when you update your software it causes a glitch that only goes away with a factory format
Each time you try a fix, let the battery fully charge then check the stats a couple of hours later.
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Google services is one of the biggest battery user but it still doesn't explain his erratic battery loss. I never turn off any features and get decent life.
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You're welcome. If it's any conciliation I had exactly the same issue and fixed it this morning with those steps.
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Again, LP has a world famous bug called the "Mobile Radio Active" bug. What this means that if an app uses the data services for some odd reason LP keeps the mobile radio open even if the app does not need it any more...So, for all you know ur issue is Android related and not your device specific. Oh btw, the upcoming M also has this confounded bug...so I believe we will be plagued by this bug for the foreseeable future...And I dumped my iPhone for this buggy Android...Dang!
How is your reception, If most of the time your phone struggle to get reception, it may be part of the problem, just my 2 cents, not an expert, but myself trying to get rid of the google service battery bug...
Better battery stats would give detailed information as to the cause, yet it requires root on all lollipop devices. Helped me find the exact cause of my phone never sleeping
Hello guys. I bought this phone a few weeks ago and from the first day, I have been facing this problem. I have deleted all bloatware and tried everything on the internet. The battery usage stats show that no specific app is causing this. Just today, I went to sleep at around 8am with 45% battery and wifi off, and woke up at 5pm with 35% battery. Please help guys.
Attached is a screenshot of my battery stats. Always on display is set to always on btw but i dont think thats the issue
Wow, i cant remember when last i slept half that long!
I believe Miui 11 drains battery. I got better results after debloating. Try scheduling battery saver.
Haha I was surprised as well as I usually dont sleep this much. Anyway, attached is a screenshot of betterbatterystats and it seems like system is the culprit. What should I do now?
After disabled Screen Animations my Mi Note 10 works all day with 50% of battery. I think MIUI 11.0.8 is terrible.
rodrigodds said:
After disabled Screen Animations my Mi Note 10 works all day with 50% of battery. I think MIUI 11.0.8 is terrible.
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no, since MIUI 11.0.8 works without problems here.
May be too much sync? See if Greenify app or Superfreezz makes a difference.
I have 150+ apps, wifi on and when I checked two days ago I went from 100% => 99% in 7h 45 min during the night.
I have done nothing to improve battery life.
Maybe resetting the phone and start over?
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I have 150+ apps, wifi on and when I checked two days ago I went from 100% => 99% in 7h 45 min during the night.
I have done nothing to improve battery life.
Maybe resetting the phone and start over?
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Cmon, that's not possible.
I have just a few App, everything is optimised and still I get a huge drain from Google Play Services.
Catcher89 said:
Cmon, that's not possible.
I have just a few App, everything is optimised and still I get a huge drain from Google Play Services.
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This is Google play services for me after 12 h use. It is number 8 of battery consumption.
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This is Google play services for me after 12 h use. It is number 8 of battery consumption. View attachment 5084345
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Always on WiFi? that's the only explanation, since I get the drainage only when with data.
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Always on WiFi? that's the only explanation, since I get the drainage only when with data.
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Yeah, always wifi. Have not checked drain with data only. If I remember I will turn off wifi tonight and check.
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Always on WiFi? that's the only explanation, since I get the drainage only when with data.
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Tried with only data and lost 3% in 7 h. Most of it was at 3 AM when WhatsApp wanted to backup but I have it on only wifi.
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Tried with only data and lost 3% in 7 h. Most of it was at 3 AM when WhatsApp wanted to backup but I have it on only wifi.
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Lucky you!
I have done all the optimisation, enabled aggressive doze, remove auto-sync, notifications, backup, everything related to position/history/scan, blocked ads with nextdns, unistalled Google plays services updates, disabled change system setting, unistalled every possible 3rd part app that could use it (a few since it's brand new) and I am basically using it for WhatsApp.
Results: Google plays services always at the top, no matter what. It was higher, now it's stable around 10/20%. Unbelievable I hate this phone.
28% - 3h30 SOT
my old oneplus can do better, with a battery not even reaching 4k mA and with intense use of location tracking apps, FB, WhatsApp etc etc .
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Lucky you!
I have done all the optimisation, enabled aggressive doze, remove auto-sync, notifications, backup, everything related to position/history/scan, blocked ads with nextdns, unistalled Google plays services updates, disabled change system setting, unistalled every possible 3rd part app that could use it (a few since it's brand new) and I am basically using it for WhatsApp.
Results: Google plays services always at the top, no matter what. It was higher, now it's stable around 10/20%. Unbelievable I hate this phone.
28% - 3h30 SOT
my old oneplus can do better, with a battery not even reaching 4k mA and with intense use of location tracking apps, FB, WhatsApp etc etc .
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Maybe you did too much lol. I dont know, every review i watched, every endurance test on youtube, this device destroys others in battery test. I also have excellent endurance, charge once every 2 days, and i get around 6hours of sot. Completely stock, no hacks, mods, debloats or anything. 24/7 sync with my galaxy watch, 2 gmail accounts, facebook, instagram etc. You either have horrible reception, and while trying to find mobile towers phone wastes a lot of energy, or you have always on display setup for 24/7, or by removing stuff, you created some software bugs. Cant think of other explanation.
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Maybe you did too much lol. I dont know, every review i watched, every endurance test on youtube, this device destroys others in battery test. I also have excellent endurance, charge once every 2 days, and i get around 6hours of sot. Completely stock, no hacks, mods, debloats or anything. 24/7 sync with my galaxy watch, 2 gmail accounts, facebook, instagram etc. You either have horrible reception, and while trying to find mobile towers phone wastes a lot of energy, or you have always on display setup for 24/7, or by removing stuff, you created some software bugs. Cant think of other explanation.
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It is possible that a bad signal is the culprit here, I am currently living in the countryside and the signal is not the best (I can see in the stats too). Still I don't know what it should have to do with Google Play Services!
Luckily I am moving back to the city next week, so I will keep an eye on that.
Try one night in airplane mode on. If it's the signal, it would be a big difference in battery.
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It is possible that a bad signal is the culprit here, I am currently living in the countryside and the signal is not the best (I can see in the stats too). Still I don't know what it should have to do with Google Play Services!
Luckily I am moving back to the city next week, so I will keep an eye on that.
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It is possible that a bad signal is the culprit here, I am currently living in the countryside and the signal is not the best (I can see in the stats too). Still I don't know what it should have to do with Google Play Services!
Luckily I am moving back to the city next week, so I will keep an eye on that.
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I read some good thing about this app. Might be worth a try.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.doze&hl=en
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Maybe you did too much lol. I dont know, every review i watched, every endurance test on youtube, this device destroys others in battery test. I also have excellent endurance, charge once every 2 days, and i get around 6hours of sot. Completely stock, no hacks, mods, debloats or anything. 24/7 sync with my galaxy watch, 2 gmail accounts, facebook, instagram etc. You either have horrible reception, and while trying to find mobile towers phone wastes a lot of energy, or you have always on display setup for 24/7, or by removing stuff, you created some software bugs. Cant think of other explanation.
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Wow, you have really bad SOT! I get minimum 10hrs and even a little more without gaming.
You guys should try debloating.
paq1170 said:
Wow, you have really bad SOT! I get minimum 10hrs and even a little more without gaming.
You guys should try debloating.
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Done and naptime is installed. I still have many wakeups from Google:
https://prnt.sc/u4xez7
Do you know how to fix them?
So here is the XDA article about the feature drop
June Feature Drop for Google Pixels includes At a Glance improvements, Pocket Operator, and more
The June feature drop for Google Pixel devices is now available, and you can install it on your smartphone. It has a ton of new features.
www.xda-developers.com
And it really does look kind of..... underwhelming? like nothing there is very useful or important at large.
But the update actually brought nice stuff.
Check this article for the main take on the feature drop
June Feature Drop appears to cure most of what ailed Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro units
Most Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro users have seen a big improvement in their handsets' cellular connectivity after installing the June Feature Drop.
www.phonearena.com
I myself have noticed improvements in the time to fingerprint unlock, network seems to be faster and more stable in comparison to March, and my network battery usage went down from being around 30% to around 5%!
So all in all I'm happy with this update even though it didn't seem meaningful at the beginning. It makes this phone more fine tuned and worth.
Have you-all noticed any improvements?
Are you feeling it's better then before?
Yes much better. One day in only but noticeable for sure.
The OTA update isn't showing up yet for me.
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The OTA update isn't showing up yet for me.
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weird.. i suppose you also checked manually through the settings?
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Yes much better. One day in only but noticeable for sure.
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I used the android flash tool it factory reset my phone but that's not big deal for me I restored my backup from Google one.
I have noticed the fingerprint sensor is working better my phone seems to not get as good reception but the network is also not using 30% anymore it more like 10 or 15 which is still high but where I'm at now doesn't really have great reception to begin with
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weird.. i suppose you also checked manually through the settings?
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Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. I'm manually checking for the update, and it's not showing up. I'll try restarting.
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Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. I'm manually checking for the update, and it's not showing up. I'll try restarting.
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I usually wait for the update notification upon checking updates available. This time it didn't seem it was forthcoming anytime soon since my wife's P5 didn't get it either. So I sideloaded it yesterday. It took all of 7 - 10 min from recovery to reboot. Not sure what the delay is but I just didn't feel like waiting for them to do whatever the eff they need to do to release it.
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Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. I'm manually checking for the update, and it's not showing up. I'll try restarting.
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go to google ota images https://developers.google.com/android/ota
i got my phone yesterday ....love it
I've definitely noticed an improvement in the fingerprint reader. I haven't noticed any different in network - but more so because I am usually on WiFi and generally don't have network issues when I am not.
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go to google ota images https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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Yeah, I ended up sideloading it. No issues, and everything feels a little snappier
I sideloaded it Monday afternoon. Wasn't having any issues before and am not having any issues after.
It's a little early to tell, but I think battery life has improved. I ended the day both Monday and Tuesday with a battery that was about 10%-15% higher than usual.
Being able to use music player like neutron working again is brilliant I had the update on Monday about 11pm I'm in uk
i installed June update 2 days ago. not sure if it is the update or battery guru which was installed at the same time, but now my phone ACTUALLY goes into deep sleep (as reported by battery guru)!!
Its always in deep sleep now for around 15/16hrs between charges and battery drain is down to as little as 1% per hr when screen off. Before I could lose around 20/30% from around 10pm (last phone use) until 6.30am when i pick my phone up the following morning.
One thing i am having issue with SINCE the June update is pixel launcher. Im getting errors saying it has stopped working. I Use Lawnchair anyway, but thats not the point. Just before I get the error about pixel launcher, the phone goes really slow.
A restart of the phone hasn't solved the issues and i have also cleared data/cache from the launcher to no avail.
I NEED TO CONNECT MULTIPLE BLUETOOTH DEVICES AT ONCE!
one weird error I have since updating. If I pull down the notification tab as soon as i click a notification, instead of opening it it will lock the screen
Noticed much improved battery life as well. A 2% drop in active usage and much better standby battery drain. Took my phone out of the charger at 1pm yesterday and I'm at 48% as of writing this message the net day at 6:35pm. Moderate active usage between then and now.
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Forgot to mention that my phone doesn't seem to randomly overheat anymore while casually browsing the web.
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Phone finally shut down today at 4pm, with around 50hours of total battery life and 6ish hours of screen time. This is probably the single biggest overall battery life improvement I've ever experienced just from installing an update alone on any phone I've owned.
NVM, I found the setting.
Definitely not better here battery or network wise after the June patch.