I really need to call my Doc and schedule my next lobotomy, cuz this isn't making sense. Why is Google's adapter different from one I kept back from one of my many Samsung handset purchases?
If anyone knows the answer to this hardware riddle, or has had a different experience with their OEM supplied "Data Transfer Tool" , I'd love to hear about it before I have this procedure done! (ty)
When you plug a USB into the pixel, doesn't it have the option to choose to charge from device in a notification shade?
Izy said:
When you plug a USB into the pixel, doesn't it have the option to choose to charge from device in a notification shade?
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Negative, or at least mine doesn't. But the Samsung adapter I've had since selling my SM-N975U1 (Note10 Unl.) does let the charge happen with no hassle. Also, I try think this might be one of our fixes forthcoming (I hope) under a blanket USB-C fix? My Pixel 5a (5G) had no issue with the Google adapter for charging as I recall.
If you're talking about the adapter that came in the box (male C to female A), the USB-A cable you're using could be the problem. Even when cables have pinouts for pass-through power they don't always work for all devices. This article explains how the Pixel 6 is more fickle about charging, which also hints at why you don't see the same problem on a Pixel 5a.
Thanks for the link...I knew my 5a adapter allowed the charge, so my issue may be broader as I was using my Google supplied cables. Wonder why the G-Whiz kids couldn't accommodate us on a more universal adapter as they didn't spring for throwing in a power supply on the Pixel 6 Series deal?!
What's that little birdy, what did you say?chirp..cheap..cheap!
Did you not want to use the USB-C cable that came with your phone? Or you didn't have a charging brick that has USB-C?
No, it charges fine with the supplied OEM cable, it's just I've never used one before that was made to be so task specific. I thought (until now) they were all made to be multifunctional like my Samsung model is.
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Hi All,
I ended up purchasing the Rezond based on the previous feedback, but I'm still in the test-drive phase. I'm really enjoying the phone so far and so far I'm thinking "keep". The included headphones are really great also compared to my previous headphones! I'll be waiting at least another week before I decide to keep the phone and decide to put a better ROM on the phone.
Anyway, what's the deal with the charge cable? Standard Micro-USB fits fine, but what's up with the funky cable that came with the device? Will this cause any problems using a longer standard cable or will it cause the phone to charge slower? Does this cable need to be used for proper connection to a PC?
Custom cables always make me leery.
Sorry if this has been asked, searching for custom usb, charge cable, custom cable did not return an results.
Its actually not a custom cable. It is a MHL adapter. Lots of talk about it in the Accessories forum.
Basically one port for charging and HDMI out instead of two separate ports.
You can charge fine with a regular micro usb cable, I don't think it's slower but I've never timed it.
If you want to get more like the ones that came with the phone you can get the HTC Flyer cables in white here:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-flyer-data-cable-dc-t500-extmicro-usb-12pin-white-209995/
I bought two of them since I like the secure feeling of the snap in.
I've never tried using a regular micro usb for data and don't have one within arm's reach and I'm really super comfy right now so I'm not going to get up but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
In the accessories forum try searching "mhl cable" and I think you'll come up with two threads about it if you want further info.
I am using a blackberry (micro USB) cable at work, and the OEM cable at home, I see no different in charge time or PC connectivity between the 2 cable.
I also use a blackberry AC adapter to charge the rezound when I am in a pinch.
HTH.
Thanks.
I figured any standard micro-usb cable will work. A MHL cable makes sense though, I've just never actually seen one and I'm not familiar with the form factor.
I'll be looking into this, thank you again.
"MHL" A Lot More Solid
The MHL cable feels a lot more solid than a micro USB. I have a couple micro usb that have gotten loose, and now just fall out of the phone if turned over, or if I hit a bump in the car. Thanks for finding a source to buy more of the MHL cables.
Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
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Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
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How long are those cables? Doesn't say on the page; unless I'm blind.
There is no such thing as an "MHL cable".
The format of the port and cable that come with the Rezound is called "EXTMicro USB".
"MHL" refers to a standard for connecting small electronics to HDTVs. It works with a regular Micro USB cable. Last time I checked (a couple of weeks ago) there are no MHL adapters that utilize EXTMicro USB connectors. Most of the ones that I've found use a regular Micro USB connector.
At this time, it's unclear exactly what the extra 7 pins in the connector in this phone are for. Other HTC phones have used them for analog audio and video output, but this doesn't appear to be supported by the rezound.
If you look at your rezound, you will see it only has the 5 pins. It does utilize the ExtMicro USB plug end/shape. If it truly had the ExtMico USB then while using the mhl adapter it could charge your phone via A/C while streaming. But it can't because the data pins are being used/ there are only 5 pins.
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That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
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That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
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You are right the phone has it, the does not cable. That is my mistake. I knew one of them didn't just was too lazy to check.
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So i tried to fkash something using odin about a week ago...and no matter what i tried, odin and the phone would connect, but the transfer would lock up. It wouldnt fail...it just would lock up.
After a while of futzing around, i tried a couple other cables until i came upon my stock Samsung cable, and Voilà. It worked.
How do we ensure that the cables we buy will work as the stock ones do? Does Samsung do something to alter their cables? Or are the cables i tried using altered by the manufacturer of the device they came with?
If you have some USB wisdom, please share it.
I'm no pro and don't know specifics, but from my experience and from what I've gathered from reading people talk about it, there are multiple types of USB cord types. The way it is wired apparently differs from cord to cord. Some Usb to Micro Usb will only allow you to charge, but not transfer data. My last phone was an HTC Touch Diamond, same deal. I used the stock one for a long time until a friend lent me a much longer and apparently high quality one. I don't know what the different types are called, or anything like that, you could probably google it though.
I can't remember the exact details, but IIRC there is some kind of intentional short between two of the leads on Samsung's Note USB cable. It's basically what tells the phone that it's ready to connect for data transfer. Not sure if it has to do with the new MTP mode or something else, but that is probably what caused your problem.
It's ironic that they universalized the micro-USB standard a few years ago specifically so there wouldn't be so much variation among chargers, but now there are multiple types of micro-usb cables and connectors that work with certain phones and not others. Oh well.. could be worse i guess
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it's ironic that they universalized the micro-usb standard a few years ago specifically so there wouldn't be so much variation among chargers, but now there are multiple types of micro-usb cables and connectors that work with certain phones and not others.
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exactly! +1000
I rooted my note the other night using a microUSB that was sent with a Mophie Juice Pack Air for an iPhone. I don't think there's anything special between that cable and the one Samsung sent.
From what I've gathered on the forums here, the Samsung cable is just a regular microUSB. The difference is in the charger, which has the USB port's data pins shorted. This tells the phone to fast-charge if the current supplied is of sufficient amount. If you shorted the data wires or pins in the cable itself, that cable couldn't transfer any data - it would only be good for charging.
Length and shielding amount can be a factor in data transfer. Any chance the cables that didn't work were of greater length or not certified for USB 2.0? I haven't had issues with any of my cables.
I'm starting to think that the Issue isn't with standard cables, nor with the Sammy supplied one, but rather with the other twobi used. Specifically, it was a kindle microusb and a logitech microusb and supplied by the respective device makers.
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I can't remember the exact details, but IIRC there is some kind of intentional short between two of the leads on Samsung's Note USB cable. \
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Any cable that does this should be thrown in the trash. This should be something that's on the charger not the cable.
Anyway, I've used 3-4 various microUSB cables with my Note, no problems, except that I've found that adb randomly isn't working, even though USB otherwise is. Reboot fixes it. I haven't looked into it much.
I recently bought this generic charger with a USB 3.0 output connection for docking my Note 3 to keep it charged as much as possible while listening to music at work. (Listening to music alone doesn't cause much drain to the battery, but I get anxious when my battery falls below a certain percentage...I have problems, I know )
http://www.wowparts.com/charger-station-cradle-for-samsung-galaxy-note-3-n9000-n9002-n9005/
This cradle serves that purpose...mostly. I noticed it prior to buying but figured I'd give it a chance because of its low price, but the rear port does not utilize USB 3.0 but instead uses USB 2.0. I thought this might lead to a slower charging rate and it turns out I was right. Mind you, I experienced the show charge rate with it connected directly to a wall outlet, not a PC or another device.
I've searched for other cradles that also have a USB 3.0 output connection for the phone, but the ones I've found only have USB 2.0 input connections in the rear.
If I'm not mistaken, the Note 3 is the first mobile device to utilize USB 3.0 so I know that it's probably unlikely at this point, but has anyone else come across any cradles that utilize USB 3.0 for both the input and output connections?
Update: Never mind! Another user posted this in another thread http://www.shopandroid.com/samsung-desktop-dock/5AA15818.htm . It's strange, though, how it's Samsung-branded but it's not even listed on the Samsung site as one of the device accessories (at least not for the T-Mo version).
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Hey guys!
I was thinking about geting a magnetic cable for my OP5, they seem greate for beeyng very practical to use and in theory helping to expand the device's usb port life.
So with that in mind, does anyone have any ideia if...
1- Is there a 4A magnetic usb C cable compatible with dash/vooc?
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2 - is there any chance that using a magnetic cable would cause damage to the phone?
Nope no dash charge just slow/about 1A. Don't think slow charging would kill your phone. I use em all the time and have had no problems this far.
Same here, I have a micro-usb magnetic connector for my smartach and another magnetic type-c for a tablet and both can't deliver more than 1A , but they are indeed very handy !
Hey guys just found a 4.3A cable, the problem is that its made for notebooks which means the connector is L shaped.
here is where to buy: https://www.banggood.com/Baseus-Magnetic-90-Degree-4_3A-Type-C-to-Type-C-Fast-Charge-Data-Cable-1_5M-for-S8-Xiaomi-6-Macbook-p-1179421.html
and the kickstarter page:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1234664819/baseus-worlds-fastest-magnetic-usb-type-c-cable/
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Hey guys just found a 4.3A cable, the problem is that its made for notebooks which means the connector is L shaped.
here is where to buy: https://www.banggood.com/Baseus-Magnetic-90-Degree-4_3A-Type-C-to-Type-C-Fast-Charge-Data-Cable-1_5M-for-S8-Xiaomi-6-Macbook-p-1179421.html
and the kickstarter page:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1234664819/baseus-worlds-fastest-magnetic-usb-type-c-cable/
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Hmm i says that it can support S8 too.
Only problem i see is that the USB C charge part needs to stay in the phone, and the other part is magnetic.
Not really convenient i think..
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Hey guys just found a 4.3A cable, the problem is that its made for notebooks which means the connector is L shaped.
here is where to buy: https://www.banggood.com/Baseus-Magnetic-90-Degree-4_3A-Type-C-to-Type-C-Fast-Charge-Data-Cable-1_5M-for-S8-Xiaomi-6-Macbook-p-1179421.html
and the kickstarter page:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1234664819/baseus-worlds-fastest-magnetic-usb-type-c-cable/
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It won't work with Dash Charge anyway.. You need their cable with their charger otherwise it won't work,I haven't seen any 3rd party accessories that supports Dash Charge
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Hmm i says that it can support S8 too.
Only problem i see is that the USB C charge part needs to stay in the phone, and the other part is magnetic.
Not really convenient i think..
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That's kind of the whole idea that makes it convenient, not having to plug the cable. But yeah you do have to always use a case to cover it.
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It won't work with Dash Charge anyway.. You need their cable with their charger otherwise it won't work,I haven't seen any 3rd party accessories that supports Dash Charge
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Ok the Charger i get but the cable, are you sure?
Is there something else about the OP stock cable besisdes the amount of juice that it can put thru? (considering that that ports a usb-c on one end and usb on the other)
I always thought that there wasn't any other cable compatible because before apple put a usb-c charging/data port on macbook there was no market for a 4A cable apart from Oppo and Oneplus.
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Ok the Charger i get but the cable, are you sure?
Is there something else about the OP stock cable besisdes the amount of juice that it can put thru? (considering that that ports a usb-c on one end and usb on the other)
I always thought that there wasn't any other cable compatible because before apple put a usb-c charging/data port on macbook there was no market for a 4A cable apart from Oppo and Oneplus.
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Yes I'm sure,there is a ton of sites that explains Dash Charge. I Think they put some microchip inside so OP phones can check the compatibility and allow the 4A charge
Edit: There is some article that states that you need their cable
Does anyone know where I can buy something like this, except for usb c?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/112306...D711-117182-37290-0%26rvr_id%3D1289648401373&
I do NOT want the entire cable. I just want an adapter so I can use my existing cables.
Never mind, just saw the kick starter. But I only need charging.
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Yes I'm sure,there is a ton of sites that explains Dash Charge. I Think they put some microchip inside so OP phones can check the compatibility and allow the 4A charge
Edit: There is some article that states that you need their cable
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Quoting the part of the article that talks about the cable "they won’t be compatible with the high current that’s supplied to the device".
So if the current is the only reason... than i believe it could be compatible sense it hits the 4A spot.
Compatible or not the seller/manufaturer will only ship the cable once it hits 200 pcs sold mark, which is pretty far from the current 42 pre-orders. That's too bad i was actualy willing to buy and test it if it wasn't for this.
Any news regarding this?
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Necro-Reply....but has anyone tried this. Seems to be an Adapter for Magnetic connection. So what if we used this along with the Dash Charger and Cable?
VOLTA Magnetic Adapter
https://voltacharger.com/collection...ts/volta-adapter-2-tips?variant=8137907437656
It will not work, they have it somewhere on their website
I love AA, but I hate charging at 500ma from the USB port. After further research I found some people making custom Y cables and boards that split the data/charging. I was lucky enough to get my hands on a board and although I can't get power delivery (Pixel 4 XL will not allow PD when the data/charge is split up like this) I am able to achieve 5v3a charging which is still better than 500ma. From what I understand other phones can get full power delivery with one of these cables/boards. I acknowledge that something like this is not USB-IF certified but I don't think people on XDA really care about that.
Anyway, how do I go about getting more of these boards made? Or if someone is up for the task, I would be a buyer for sure! I'm hoping to get some of these made with a case and proper USB C female ports so it'll be a bit more sturdy.
In case anyone is wondering, when I use anything other than a 5W3A charger, my Pixel 4 XL will not connect to AA or be detected by a computer. When I tried using a iPhone X with a USB C to lighting port cable the phone charged and Carplay worked.