Hi folks,
I have a peculiar problem. I'm using Tasker to kill some apps. One of the apps has a persistent notification icon and it refuses to be killed (even with root). The notification icon is gone for a second but will always come right back. Using pstree I tried to find out if there was a watchdog process keeping the app alive, but I found none. Also it is not hooked to any events according to Autorun manager. A force close under "app management" always works.
What is going on?
This seems like an answer that has been asked before. So off course I have searched. I found similar questions (examples: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854858 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040841 ) but no answers.
Who can help me? I'm really at a dead-end.
what app is it? Some apps (especially system apps) can't be closed, and if does gets killed, OS programs it to restart almost immediately after it's been killed.
Preaper said:
Hi folks,
I have a peculiar problem. I'm using Tasker to kill some apps. One of the apps has a persistent notification icon and it refuses to be killed (even with root). The notification icon is gone for a second but will always come right back. Using pstree I tried to find out if there was a watchdog process keeping the app alive, but I found none. Also it is not hooked to any events according to Autorun manager. A force close under "app management" always works.
What is going on?
This seems like an answer that has been asked before. So off course I have searched. I found similar questions (examples: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854858 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040841 ) but no answers.
Who can help me? I'm really at a dead-end.
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This is actually Android-by-design. Apps are supposed to be killed from time to time to conserve resources (e.g. memory), and also restarted transparently to the user. This is handled by the ActivityManager. You can view it as Android swappes app's instead of swapping memory. This to improve the real time performance of the device. When someone calls you, you don't want to wait half a minute for the phone to swap out Angry Birds before it can load the Phone app ...
Hence, killing app's will most often only give very short term effect.
I have recently been taking control over the permissions I allow with certain apps with the use of App Ops starter that was included with my LG G3 Android 5.0 update.
I have noticed however that since I have disabled certain permissions for certain apps the battery usage for those apps intermittently skyrocket to using 30% in under an hour at random times. This often happens while the phone is idling and with those apps not even open in my task manager.
Some examples would be disabling the location data for apps such as Facebook's "Messenger" app and also games like Wooga's "Diamond Dash". Google's default "Maps" app is also a culprit after disabling access to contacts/phone.
My guess would be that these apps are stuck in some loop constantly checking for the information they no longer have access to.
Can anyone comment as to having similar results? Can anyone make suggestions as to possible things I could do on my end?
I have tried to re-enable the permissions to verify the results however as this is not an issue that affects the battery constantly but only intermittently I'm unsure as to whether I am right in my assumptions and there was one instance where I had re-enabled all the permissions for Facebook's "Messenger" yet it still consumed significant amounts of battery while being closed and the phone in it's idle state.
osiris231 said:
I have recently been taking control over the permissions I allow with certain apps with the use of App Ops starter that was included with my LG G3 Android 5.0 update.
I have noticed however that since I have disabled certain permissions for certain apps the battery usage for those apps intermittently skyrocket to using 30% in under an hour at random times. This often happens while the phone is idling and with those apps not even open in my task manager.
Some examples would be disabling the location data for apps such as Facebook's "Messenger" app and also games like Wooga's "Diamond Dash". Google's default "Maps" app is also a culprit after disabling access to contacts/phone.
My guess would be that these apps are stuck in some loop constantly checking for the information they no longer have access to.
Can anyone comment as to having similar results? Can anyone make suggestions as to possible things I could do on my end?
I have tried to re-enable the permissions to verify the results however as this is not an issue that affects the battery constantly but only intermittently I'm unsure as to whether I am right in my assumptions and there was one instance where I had re-enabled all the permissions for Facebook's "Messenger" yet it still consumed significant amounts of battery while being closed and the phone in it's idle state.
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You are right on why it's happening. If they can't get the info they are programmed for then they keep trying. Not a whole lot you can do really. As long as they are programmed to try and get the info then they will keep trying.
Hi guys,
I bought a Lenovo p2 a couple of weeks ago and have been having problems with apps (mainly whatsapp and podcast addict) being closed soon after the screen turns off. I am running android 7.0; stock firmware. Whatsapp wont push notification until I reopen the app manually. Podcast eddict sometimes stops playing a podcast when the screen is turned of manually or automatically; sometimes it resumes where I stopped listening the time before the last time and I can't rewind the podcast, so it become unplayable. I am pretty sure that these and more app are being closed aggressively, which also makes the corresponding widget unclickable. The weird thing is that I am not sure that I had these problems from the start. Maybe I had them, but didn't notice them or they have become more pronounced somehow.
Things I tried but didn't help:
- reset all the permissions for all the apps (I remember denying a lot of them when I first installed them and thought that the apps might not be working properly because of that)
- changed whatsapp and podcast addict to "not optimized" in the battery optimization menu
- I went through all the settings of the phone and of the corresponding apps, but didn't find a solution or an setting I accidentally changed
- I tried to get into the advanced settings menu by longpressing the gear button on the dropdown menu. I read that the gear should start spinning, but mine didn't
- I locked whatsapp and podcast addict in the multitask window, by clicking on the lock icon
Any help is much appreciated and let me know if I left out anything that you guys need to know.
I'm using the Mate 10 Pro.
I listen to Spotify in my car. Right now every time I enter my car, I have to start up Spotify on my phone, which is quite annoying. On my previous phone (Mate 7), I could add Spotify to the "Protected Apps" and it wouldn't shut down anymore.
Is there a way to solve it in Mate 10 Pro/Oreo 8.0.0/EMUI 8.0.0?
So far I have:
- Added Spotify to "Ignore Battery Optimization" (Status: "allowed")
- In Launch, I deactivated "Manage automatically" and set all three option active (Auto-launch / Secondary launch / Run in Background)
I don't know what else to do. Any help appreciated!
The stock music player app takes precedence over spotify and others. So if there is any sample music on your phone, it will try to launch that first. Maybe remove any locally stored music and try again.
microhaxo said:
The stock music player app takes precedence over spotify and others. So if there is any sample music on your phone, it will try to launch that first. Maybe remove any locally stored music and try again.
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Thanks, but I already did that. I removed all rights from the "Music" player and deleted all files in the same folder. I created a new folder, named it "My Music", so since then (about 1 month ago) the default Music player has not played anything anmore That's good so far. My issue is really just that it shuts down Spotify.
I noticed that when I'm at work. Maybe another hour later, I still see the Spotify icon on top of the screen, so it wasn't shut down. But sometimes later during the day, it's suddenly gone. So when I'm back in the car, I need to start the app again.
I also tried to hit the "open apps" button (the one next to the home button), then clicked the lock icon. But didn't help either.
I dont use spotify throughout the entire day, but usually as long as I wasn't playing a random video or gif online just before entering my car, spotify will start back up.
I cant say that it runs in the background all the time when not in use. Its like my car triggers it to re-open when it reconnects to bt.
I have a mazda 3 though, all cars seem to act different for BT connectivity.
The thing is, if I leave my car to go shopping or something quick and I get back in my car, it works perfectly fine.
Therefore by my logic, I can rule out the BT of my car. When this happens as explained before, the Icon still remains on top in the notification bar.
So, I guess in the end, for some reason my phone just shuts down Spotify.
Anyway, thanks for your input.
I Have the same problem with VPN App it work fine in background but After a while the App Closed Why?
Having a similar problem with VPN app and also with Youmail visual voicemail. No notification of new voicemails until I open the app. Any ideas? I also set to ignore battery optimization and launch manually.
You need to deactivate the battery settings of the app.
valerio.tosti said:
You need to deactivate the battery settings of the app.
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That doesn't help. Apps still shut down in background.
FWIW, I have noticed that battery optimization (Launch in settings) changes can be hit or miss. Some apps perform as set. For instance, I have some items set to manage automatically and they seem to stop when I want them to. However apps like Facebook when Set to manage manually and run in background is off, it does not stop. Other apps set this same way will be stopped. Not really sure how it works actually.
When activated Google assistant interrupts constantly, as often as every couple of seconds sometimes. I have tried the advice from every thread that I can find on the subject, but nothing works.
When disabled I then get constant pop ups of the notification prompting me to turn it back on!
I have a Xiaomi MI9 running android 10, but it doesn't have the normal menu that is present on the phones used in all the articles or videos showing how to be rid of google assistant. So for example on my phone the google app does not appear in the app manager list, and nowhere can I find the 'default apps' option.
I even tried - as suggested by some - installing Amazon Alexa as the assistant app, but there's no way to toggle between them and I still get pestered all the time but the google app, disabled or otherwise.
I am ready to consider any option, getting of the MIUI, rooting the phone, setting it on fire, whatever I need to do to be rid of this issue, It's making my phone unusable.
Please help!