The pocophone F1 was the best phone I ever had and I miss it dearly, so I decided to buy a used one in the next few days.
I would like to know a few things regarding the current state of it's development:
In terms of gcam, does the original pixel 3 gcam is still the best, most compatible version for the f1? I've had a few android phones and none had the compatibility and stability that the f1 offered, and I'm afraid that with the new android 13 roms the pixel 3 gcam isn't compatible....
Is the custom rom development still active for the F1? Saw that Havoc Os hasn't been updated in quite a long time and I really love that one
whogivesaf said:
The pocophone F1 was the best phone I ever had and I miss it dearly, so I decided to buy a used one in the next few days.
I would like to know a few things regarding the current state of it's development:
In terms of gcam, does the original pixel 3 gcam is still the best, most compatible version for the f1? I've had a few android phones and none had the compatibility and stability that the f1 offered, and I'm afraid that with the new android 13 roms the pixel 3 gcam isn't compatible....
Is the custom rom development still active for the F1? Saw that Havoc Os hasn't been updated in quite a long time and I really love that one
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I am using BSG Gcam ports (https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-bsg/) and the latest stable release (8.1.101) is working perfectly well for me.
Regarding ROMs, development is still active (LineageOS, crDroid, etc.) and totally suitable for a daily-driver use.
You can find many answers to your questions and more in this awesome guide : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/poco-f1-ultimate-collection-guides.4192715/
duttyend said:
I am using BSG Gcam ports (https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-bsg/) and the latest stable release (8.1.101) is working perfectly well for me.
Regarding ROMs, development is still active (LineageOS, crDroid, etc.) and totally suitable for a daily-driver use.
You can find many answers to your questions and more in this awesome guide : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/poco-f1-ultimate-collection-guides.4192715/
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Thanks for replying,
Do you notice an improvement with the latest gcam versions compared to the 6.xxx versions? I remember the old version as a reliable, stable and legit equal to the pixel.
whogivesaf said:
Thanks for replying,
Do you notice an improvement with the latest gcam versions compared to the 6.xxx versions? I remember the old version as a reliable, stable and legit equal to the pixel.
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I have never used the 6.xxx versions, so I couldn't tell you, but in my opinion, the quality, detail, sharpness, especially in good lighting (but low-light shots are also good) are outstanding and really close, if not equal, to Pixel phones and iPhones from the same "era" (and maybe up to some of today lower-end models).
We have the same optics (from Sony, I don't remember the exact model) as many Pixel phones (minus the Optical Image Stabilization) and we also benefit from the Image Signal Processor of a flagship SoC (Snapdragon 845).
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hi guys,planning on buying the redmi note 3-snapdragon variant(kenzo,if im right).so is there any stable cm based rom with all the hardware working (ril-3G data,camera -photo& video-- being my priority),xposed compatability is imp too for ui tweaks.i dont mind even if its just lollipop,just want to have the lighter cm based rom,aosp would be too bland for me.hoping for advice frm rn3-sd users,in fact i wanted mi max but development seems to be slow for that device,plz pour in with your advices
I think you can go for it. I am using this devices since the release and I am very happy with the development.
it has official CM
If you want VoLTE you can go for AOSP
I have one and everything works perfectly on CM13 with the front camera fix flashed and Radon Kernel. I love it
You can definitely buy this phone. Most of the cm13 based roms have all the features working, also there's a huge choice between custom roms. And of course xposed is working very well.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
Correct. If you don't care for Volte, almost most of the custom roms are stable enough to use it as daily driver. Volte is still not supported in most of the custom roms like CM13. CM14 supports it but it's WIP rom right now.
thank you very much for the input friends,it means a lot to me.i was going thru the respective rom threads(cm13,rr) some users were complaining abt camera,fp sensor,settings fc...something abt newer rn3 having slightly diff h/w and causing problems.anything in particular that i should be watching out for?...i just ordered 32gb ver of rn3 frm amazon india,its pending dispatch.ever since its release i wanted to get one..although seeing some user complaints i was wondering if i made the right decision...thats why i was in such a rush
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thank you very much for the input friends,it means a lot to me.i was going thru the respective rom threads(cm13,rr) some users were complaining abt camera,fp sensor,settings fc...something abt newer rn3 having slightly diff h/w and causing problems.anything in particular that i should be watching out for?...i just ordered 32gb ver of rn3 frm amazon india,its pending dispatch.ever since its release i wanted to get one..although seeing some user complaints i was wondering if i made the right decision...thats why i was in such a rush
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Well, they are right. All the problems you've mentioned here do exist, but....
As i can see you can use xda search pretty well, and if such a problem occurs you can easily find a way to fix it.
So don't worry ?
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
HiddenSanctum said:
Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
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They have weekly ROM updates for those who want to opt-in to the developer builds.
Stable builds are at their own discretion.
They're not amazing, but better than many.
Security updates is another story. They're a bit slow with them, though I think that varies per device (Redmi is budget so gets low priority).
Poco is a new brand trying to go global though, so hopefully it's better than other devices (not sure how security updates are on the flagship Mi series)
After one or two months most of the people will shift to some or the other custom rom. So there won't be any problem with the security updates and normal OS upgrades. My Mi3 was released with KitKat now it's running Android Pie
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After one or two months most of the people will shift to some or the other custom rom. So there won't be any problem with the security updates and normal OS upgrades. My Mi3 was released with KitKat now it's running Android Pie
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I assume he's asking about *Xiaomi* updates, the official ROM. Of course you can just install custom ROM's to get latest updates unofficially - but that makes the question moot.
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Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
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Beta ROM updates are very fast both security n OS updates.
Stable updates within the same OS version are faster too. But OS upgrade need a bit waiting time as OS integrating to MIUI takes time.
Poco I expect faster updates due to treble support.
FYI:
Mix 2S of xiaomi already has Android 9 beta update.
very bad on stock roms stuck to old OS builds for mid range phones but on flagships very fast like blyat cyka rush b
I have used Redmi 2, Redmi 2 Prime, Redmi Note 3/4/5, Redmi 3S/prime and only Redmi 2 and Redmi Note 3 as my daily driver.
Those things taught the following:
Don't except updates from Xiaomi, not even security patches, although they have started providing patches on Note series but they are always late, so patches may arrive but not when you expect them.
You may not get the latest features even if you have the latest android version on your MIUI, why? because Xiaomi wants to provide same features to all the phones so that phones running on Kitkat will have the same feature as phone running on Oreo, this makes their software development easy, that means that the feature that you are using doesn't have native support and may be buggy and battery hogging.
There are two channels in MIUI - Beta Channel and StableChannel. Stable channel update is provided every 4-5 months or whenever they feel like or to fix a very important bug. Beta channel was previously bimonthly but I have heard that now, it's changed. Due to this, they don't fix bugs properly and instead introduce more bugs in the system
Their update size are generally 500MB-1.5GB but the fixes are things like: Calender icon changed, Button of some subforum in MIUI forum app changed, New Ringtones and every useless things, then in the end *Bug Fixes* but they don't mention which one. Out of every 10 beta updates only 1 or 2 updates are useful while others are just formality.
Now, note this, other companies give update to keep your phone running for longer amount of time. Xiaomi thinks different, they will wreck your device with every update they provide.
When I had Redmi Note 3, Beta channel was more better and more stable than the Stable channel, I am not lying go check the forums.
There is no major change in MIUI 7-9 the first major change I saw was MIUI6 - MIUI 7 after that all changes were just useless and they everytime just change notification shade style.
MIUI 10 - Notification shade now looks like a copy of iPhone and it's really very cheap act by Xiaomi, although their App switcher is somewhat cool.
Custom ROM:
Xiaomi phones works best with stock android and indeed has the best development support. But there are few catches.
Not all features work in custom ROM, you will have to leave one or two things if you want to use custom ROM.
The famous and best developers will not port VOLTE if their cell providers don't provide it
Camera (on Xiaomi phones) doesn't works well on custom ROMS.
Xiaomi does provide kernel but they don't provide a lot of proprietary codes and binaries that ensures smooth functioning of phones.
Don't buy the phone if you want to get updates unless it's Chinese, they do care about Chinese people unlike their global counterpart, or those people who develop global roms are arseheads.
All the above points can be confirmed on MIUI forums and XDA, if anyone says that even one of the point(s) is wrong, he is probably new in Xiaomi's world.
Redmi is the cheap line and they get late updates and bugs are not fixed properly. Mi is the expensive line of Xiaomi so they get proper update in first few months and after that they are also neglected. Since Poco is also a cheap but is a flagship, they will get good number of updates and fixes for few months then they will announce another phone and Poco will be neglected, and people who are saying that Poco has a different team may be wrong, I don't think Xioami will divide the team because internally it uses the same MIUI as others only launcher is different. For world Poco is a brand, for Xiaomi it's yet another phone.
Depends. My Mi3 got updated from kitkat to Marshmallow while my mi tab 1 was still stuck at kitkat with such a laggy interface until I flashed nougat roms with shiels blobs which made the tab as smooth as my oneplus 3. So MIUI sucks and they don't update android versions when they update their miui version. So buy a phone which has strong custom rom support. (Xiaomi models that are sold in India have strong dev support from what I have seen)
Thanks everyone for the info. That gives me a good idea.
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very bad on stock roms stuck to old OS builds for mid range phones but on flagships very fast like blyat cyka rush b
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Aye Aye Kurwa :laugh:
you forgot p90
Sandepp said:
Depends. My Mi3 got updated from kitkat to Marshmallow while my mi tab 1 was still stuck at kitkat with such a laggy interface until I flashed nougat roms with shiels blobs which made the tab as smooth as my oneplus 3. So MIUI sucks and they don't update android versions when they update their miui version. So buy a phone which has strong custom rom support. (Xiaomi models that are sold in India have strong dev support from what I have seen)
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Huh? You say it sucks but your Mi 3 got two major updates. How does that suck?
As for tablet, well it's a tablet. Android tablets were always poor selling and are now completely dead anyway (Chrome OS tablets are the future), can't compare phones to tablets.
Hello, how are you?
I am wanting to buy a new phone for Christmas.
I am thinking about a poco f1 for the specs and price.
But I would like to use a stock android experience.
How is the poco with the current unofficial LineageOS?
How is the performance and stability?
Also, is the poco with LineageOS thanks to the better 845 Soc and 6gb of ram a better phone than a pixel 2 xl?
How does the LineageOS rom with gapps compare to the stock Android on the Pixel 2 xl?
And the camera? How is LineageOS with the bsg pixel camera port against the Pixel 2 xl?
Thank you for your help.
Regards
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I bought my Poco F1 roughly a month ago, and I flashed lineage os a couple of days ago. I really like lineage, it feels very solid and quick, not had any issues at all yet. The stock camera that is bundled with lineage works well, but doesnt have many options for changing settings. Ive only had a little go with the B.S.G camera ports, and the one I tried seemed to have an issue with the preview when taking pictures. I think I may have turned a setting on by mistake or something. I did have it fully working for a bit, and it worked really well. Overall, I think this phone is great, my only real gripes with it were software based issues, but with lineage, all of those issues have been solved for me.
I cant compare it against the Pixel 2 XL as ive never owned or used one. I can compare it against my previous phone, the OnePlus One And the Poco is miles apart from the One.
If you wanted a full pixel experience, there is a couple of roms which are made to be as close to pixel as possible. LinusTechTips on youtube did a video on it.
Tittle says it all. Why pocophone as soon as september 2018 already had custom roms avaiable here on XDA and other phones such as Mi 9, S10, V20 almost 3 months since launch doesn't have any?
What makes it possible to develop custom OS and ported OS?
I really wanted to purchase a Mi 9 but MIUI is absolutely unbearable. Will miss so much OOS for Poco F1
Edit: Is it a long way to learn how to port ROMs, GSI to the point i can develop my own OOS for my desired phone?
It's about how popular the device gets. Pocophone is indeed very popular due do having flagship SOC for a very low price compared to Flagship phones. Also, Xiaomi made Source Code available literally after the phone launched. Good price, source code, popularity, attracts the developers.
Also, why do you miss OOS? It's still alive and being updated. Beta version for example. You just need to join their VIP section for some cheap monthly price and you're gonna get updates regularly according to the OOS dev for Poco.
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It's about how popular the device gets. Pocophone is indeed very popular due do having flagship SOC for a very low price compared to Flagship phones. Also, Xiaomi made Source Code available literally after the phone launched. Good price, source code, popularity, attracts the developers.
Also, why do you miss OOS? It's still alive and being updated. Beta version for example. You just need to join their VIP section for some cheap monthly price and you're gonna get updates regularly according to the OOS dev for Poco.
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Sorry buddy i wasn't very clear. I am using OOS and if i move to another device such as Mi 9 i will miss it so much.
I really wish to know the best way to understand my android system so i could tweak it to my likings.
Buy a pixel/OnePlus and you will have countless roms to play
Even though Pocophone F1 has official Android 10, its rather an old MIUI 11, which is slow and buggy compared to latest MIUI builds.
Looking at Poco X2/K30 videos on YouTube, the newer MIUI looks much smoother and optimized, when compared to F1, apps opened quicker even though processor of X2 is weaker (730g or 765g vs 845)
Given F1's age (and current situation due to pandemic that slow down businesses), it may be unlikely we get any updates from Xiaomi other than security patch. So it would be great to have the MIUI ports from X2/K30 into F1.
There are many AOSP/stock like ROMs out there which are excellent, but they don't provide certain useful features MIUI provide.
lmao, port rom will be more buggy.
Enjoy ur phone or buy google pixel
Why pixel? You could just use gsi roms and have a phone with headphone jack. But again the useful features of miui will be missing. Miui 12 will probably not come for f1
Why don't you just flash and Use MIUI based Roms like revolutionOS or Mi Room?
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Why don't you just flash and Use MIUI based Roms like revolutionOS or Mi Room?
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Mi room ROMs are out of date and are glitch as is revolution ROMs.......
This is actually a great idea cause Poco's miui is the most unstable one right now
Even the android Q custom roms are buggy
Q is horribly buggy... my experience with POCO MIUI Q is bad SOTs, Poco Launcher lag, Heating up!
Looks like every corporate is the same
The official Miui 11 for pocophone F1 is bad indeed. Anything after 10.3.8.0 has been buggy and unusable for daily use, and get poor battery life.
It look like Xiaomi didn't release any miui beta roms for poco f1. Other phones of 2018 using sd845 (such as mi9) got 20.x.x beta ROMs which seem to include upcoming features from miui 12.
This most likely means we don't get any feature updates, only security patch. However, poco x2 from this year will get miui 12 so it would be great idea to get port from it.
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This is actually a great idea cause Poco's miui is the most unstable one right now
Even the android Q custom roms are buggy
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Trueeee
AxelStrife said:
This is actually a great idea cause Poco's miui is the most unstable one right now
Even the android Q custom roms are buggy
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Have you tried crDroid Q? I switched to crDroid (6.4) about a month ago and so far its been very solid and bug-free barring one random reboot. I haven't tried any other Q ROM.
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Have you tried crDroid Q? I switched to crDroid (6.4) about a month ago and so far its been very solid and bug-free barring one random reboot. I haven't tried any other Q ROM.
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It still has bluetooth problems in PC fan or rgb controlling apps and many more
And the /system is read only
And these are on every custom rom and android Q
I guess it's google's fault
If they aren't gonna fix this it means that Pie is the most stable and full android out there
I'm a total noob at porting, once tried porting Mi8's rom to Poco F1. Sound wasn't working and I gave up. And Mi8 is the closest thing to F1 honestly. Try the ported Q Roms in Telegram, way better than stock miui in Poco. I'll try investigating about porting X2 to F1 though, if anyone wants to help, I'm welcome. I still don't understand vendor/firmware and stuff like that.