For example, Pokemon Go and Ingress Prime show in Play Store as not available for my Nord N10 5G, yet I see reports of people talking about the games, mentioning update problems, and mentioning they have those on Nord N10.
What could be going on?
I'm not sure I can answer your question, but I can possibly help another way.
First, lemme try: Note that *IF* Google decides you are an icky-free-thinker-scum trying to escape from its grasp, it will silently blacklist you in subtle ways. The Netflix app is a great example; on one phone (I think it was the N10 but may have been my last one, a OnePlus 6) it worked normally through Play store, then I flashed and tried reinstalling (Netflix, via Play store) and was surprised it listed my phone as "not compatible". After finishing all the tweaks to get the SafetyNet blessing, I was once again able to get it to work... but I think it may have been a reflash after (changed Google Ad ID? ).
So... on my current phone, which is completely de-googled, I've gone to sideloading everything (painful, but that's my choice). For anything that is free, I use: APK Downloader to get the >APK or its splits (yuck). If it is not free, I install on some other phone with a normal Play store and swipe the APK via ADB. I *THINK* you can do this (get the APKs) without root.
I'm assuming, based on your other posts recently, that you have root and most of the tweaks, so I think ADB is your friend here. In my NF example above, the app itself runs just fine after sideloading (and putting in MagiskHide+Zygisk).
Hope that helps.
So, it's like, google noticed I've rooted my phone, and blocked me from apps that require unrooted phones? Strange, I can still install MIR Pay (russia's Google Pay alternative) just fine... I guess it's only for apps that enabled this feature (ban users with rooted phones)?
I'm not entirely sure, but for me, it wasn't my account, just the phone profile. I could still install NF on other devices, and am still running it to this day happily (via sideload). My guess is it is safetynet (even if you pass now) vs root, but who knows, it is a continuous war.
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I'm not entirely sure, but for me, it wasn't my account, just the phone profile. I could still install NF on other devices, and am still running it to this day happily (via sideload). My guess is it is safetynet (even if you pass now) vs root, but who knows, it is a continuous war.
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I guess after you let Play Store find out you have root, it marks your device as "incompatible" for some applications. I wonder why it doesnt for others? Like, many apps won't work under root, but they don't become "incompatible", while this case, Ingress and Pokemon Go, they do.
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Okay. Finally got my Omate. Seems to be good quality. Got out my old ATT SIM and put in there. Seems to work fine. My question is now what do I do with it. I remember when they first announced it that google play store was an option, but it appears that didn't work out. There was such a lag between order and when I got it that I kind of lost track of what was going on with it. So what do I do with it now. I would to get some play store apps on it, and is it possible for it to connect to my iPhone?
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Okay. Finally got my Omate. Seems to be good quality. Got out my old ATT SIM and put in there. Seems to work fine. My question is now what do I do with it. I remember when they first announced it that google play store was an option, but it appears that didn't work out. There was such a lag between order and when I got it that I kind of lost track of what was going on with it. So what do I do with it now. I would to get some play store apps on it, and is it possible for it to connect to my iPhone?
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Think the watch only works with android phones, but i could be wrong.
No iOS support til the x201 gets updated to 4.3 or better.
How about the google play store. Is that an option?
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How about the google play store. Is that an option?
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You can install whatever you want. Play Store is one of the first things to get put on. Google the .apk file and install it.
And the first thing he should do is?
*raises hand* pick me pick me...apply your patch
Apply patch, install custom ROM, anything to get off of stock firmware.
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*raises hand* pick me pick me...apply your patch
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LOL. Thanks Guys. So I can just install the APK for the play store without rooting or doing anything to the Omate. And what is the "patch"?
You can do that, install the Play Store and necessary GApps to support it via a link to an AndroidPolice article you will find in a number of places. If you do though, the watch is totally open to any malicious app that might want your passwords, like to your Google account, since everything on the unlatched TrueSmart runs with root privileges by default. Wide open, except for well behaved apps that ask for root through SU...those won't work (like Root Explorer) because there is no su to ask for elevated privileges. I think I got that mostly right ?
Anyway, unless you have some particular reason to run your TrueSmart totally insecurely, exposing all the private data and credentials it ever touches, run Loki's Enhanced Security patch immediately. Before you first type in your Google account credentials.
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As a noob to this device. What ROM recommendations do you all have?
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You can do that, install the Play Store and necessary GApps to support it via a link to an AndroidPolice article you will find in a number of places. If you do though, the watch is totally open to any malicious app that might want your passwords, like to your Google account, since everything on the unlatched TrueSmart runs with root privileges by default. Wide open, except for well behaved apps that ask for root through SU...those won't work (like Root Explorer) because there is no su to ask for elevated privileges. I think I got that mostly right ?
Anyway, unless you have some particular reason to run your TrueSmart totally insecurely, exposing all the private data and credentials it ever touches, run Loki's Enhanced Security patch immediately. Before you first type in your Google account credentials.
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i'd love to run Loki's patch but im not too technically inclined and would love a step by step walk thru of how you do it and what will it look like and do once its installed,
Got a no mark S4 clone on 4.2, perfectly happy with it, got CWM and a new rom on it, its fine.
I have exposed and boot manager and once a day it has its icon telling me 'google play services' has auto installed, and every other day an app called 'recents' with a sort of C:\ terminal icon. Now, neither of these I want, I've deleted them so, SO many times, selected 'dont auto update' and also 'dont notify' from within google play, set my firewall to block anything google when on 4g etc...
Is there ANY way to stop it installing stuff I dont need?
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Got a no mark S4 clone on 4.2, perfectly happy with it, got CWM and a new rom on it, its fine.
I have exposed and boot manager and once a day it has its icon telling me 'google play services' has auto installed, and every other day an app called 'recents' with a sort of C:\ terminal icon. Now, neither of these I want, I've deleted them so, SO many times, selected 'dont auto update' and also 'dont notify' from within google play, set my firewall to block anything google when on 4g etc...
Is there ANY way to stop it installing stuff I dont need?
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The only way is to build a new aosp rom for your device. My advise is remember that you get what you pay for and clones never really have any of the hardware they claim they do. I think you will find you are better off ditching the device and buying a new one.
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The only way is to build a new aosp rom for your device. My advise is remember that you get what you pay for and clones never really have any of the hardware they claim they do. I think you will find you are better off ditching the device and buying a new one.
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That doesnt actually help me at all.
The phone is fine, no issue with it. Has a new rom on it, specs were as described, its a problem with google, and the play store auto installing, it did this on my old S2 and my galaxy tab stock, so its not the hardware.
There must be a way to stop the play store doing this apart from uninstalling the play store as I am currently doing.
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That doesnt actually help me at all.
The phone is fine, no issue with it. Has a new rom on it, specs were as described, its a problem with google, and the play store auto installing, it did this on my old S2 and my galaxy tab stock, so its not the hardware.
There must be a way to stop the play store doing this apart from uninstalling the play store as I am currently doing.
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Then that will lead me to think it is one of the apps you have installed. Some shady apps like CCleaner will install other apps. I would wipe the device completely and then install your apps one by one until you find the issue.
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Then that will lead me to think it is one of the apps you have installed. Some shady apps like CCleaner will install other apps. I would wipe the device completely and then install your apps one by one until you find the issue.
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hmmm. I will try then, my tab is stock with different apps than my phones, and my phones only share a few similar ones as one is work, one home etc...
I shall keep searching for an answer, Ta.
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As of Feb. 8/9 of 2017, it looks to me like my Tablet S, which came with 4.0.3 is no longer able to run Google apps. The tablet is still fine for other things, but the Chrome browser is on version 42 and can't be updated. Kinda sucks that one day it works, and the next it doesn't. It is still a fine tablet but much less useful to me without the Google apps. Some can still run in the browser, but it certainly is not as handy.
Hi,
I have the same issue. A couple of days ago (I think on 10.02.2017), all Google apps lost connection to 'mothership' on my STS . I've tried all potential fixes out there (clearing data, cache, uninstalling updates, re-installing updates, uninstalling Google Services, modifying hosts file, disabling two-step authentication etc.) - nothing works. I've made also a factory reset and up until the moment I download Google Services app, the connection is there. However, all new versions of Gapps require Google Services in order to run. So it's either running a couple years old versions or not having Gapps at all.
Is this some kind of intentional action on Google side? Or maybe some bug in Google Services app? I doubt many people here still use STS, but maybe there's hope that someone finds a solution to this issue?
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Hi,
I have the same issue. A couple of days ago (I think on 10.02.2017), all Google apps lost connection to 'mothership' on my STS . I've tried all potential fixes out there (clearing data, cache, uninstalling updates, re-installing updates, uninstalling Google Services, modifying hosts file, disabling two-step authentication etc.) - nothing works. I've made also a factory reset and up until the moment I download Google Services app, the connection is there. However, all new versions of Gapps require Google Services in order to run. So it's either running a couple years old versions or not having Gapps at all.
Is this some kind of intentional action on Google side? Or maybe some bug in Google Services app? I doubt many people here still use STS, but maybe there's hope that someone finds a solution to this issue?
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Thanks for the reply. My belief is the Chrome browser cannot be updated on the version of Android it is running. That would mean to me that any other device running 4.0.3 is running Chrome 42, also, and nothing can be done. Sure would like to be wrong. I have plenty of options (toys), but I hate losing normal functions on an otherwise functional machine. It is 5 years old.
Thanks for starting this thread in the first place. Without it, I would still be wondering am I the only one with this issue .
I don't think it's connected solely to Chrome browser. From my point of view, it has something to do with google services. I've tried to revert to some older version (via APK mirror, but with no success). What's worse, now I can't even get into google play store (for a while I could, despite Gapps being down). Not sure what to do at this point. I've used my STS mostly for YT or some movie during travel. I guess I'm left with just the latter . Anyway, if it's not just a bug, then it's a really unfair move from google.
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Thanks for starting this thread in the first place. Without it, I would still be wondering am I the only one with this issue .
I don't think it's connected solely to Chrome browser. From my point of view, it has something to do with google services. I've tried to revert to some older version (via APK mirror, but with no success). What's worse, now I can't even get into google play store (for a while I could, despite Gapps being down). Not sure what to do at this point. I've used my STS mostly for YT or some movie during travel. I guess I'm left with just the latter . Anyway, if it's not just a bug, then it's a really unfair move from google.
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I would bet I am correct, but...see which version of Android and the browser you are running and compare to what I reported. I was told the browser was no longer updateable with 4.0.3. The fact that it happened just as Google was announcing its new products is what led me to this conclusion.
You can still watch YouTube through the browser on your STS. I had mine on my bedstand with the dock so that I could watch in bed via Google Cast. Cast will not work because of this issue, even in the browser, because it is a newer app. So, I replaced it with my Nexus 7 2012, which also has a dock. Works fine, as would a phone or tablet.
These are my conclusions - if you find otherwise, please report back! :good:
Of course, I'm not 100% sure, but since I'm not using Chrome browser and still have this issue - wouldn't that indicate that it isn't a browser-related one? Plus, once you do a factory reset and not install Google Play Services, the connection to Google servers is being established. It's being lost after Google Play Services installation. That's what suggest to me that these services are indeed the culprit. In the end it doesn't really matter as whatever the culprit is, it doesn't look like we can solve this on our own .
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Of course, I'm not 100% sure, but since I'm not using Chrome browser and still have this issue - wouldn't that indicate that it isn't a browser-related one? Plus, once you do a factory reset and not install Google Play Services, the connection to Google servers is being established. It's being lost after Google Play Services installation. That's what suggest to me that these services are indeed the culprit. In the end it doesn't really matter as whatever the culprit is, it doesn't look like we can solve this on our own .
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Not disagreeing. Just saying that if the browser can't be updated, then apps can't be either, perhaps for the reasons you state. Sorry for the confusion. I think we're looking at the same thing from different perspectives. Either way, I think the STS is de-Googled. It is a shame as I think it has been a really good machine for its specs. Time to repurpose it or just put it away.
Sad, but true . STS had its quirks, but it has been with me longer than any other equipment.
I won't hold my breath, but maybe next Google Play Services update or some other update could fix this issue. I'll let you know if I find something.
Cheers.
I got out another Android tablet (an Asus 2 in 1) that I was thinking of repurposing and found it had Android 4.0.3 and Google Play Services 10.2.98. There is no access to Google apps except the Play Store and the Chrome browser. I forgot to check which browser number it was but if I had to guess, it is 42. Since I had not been using it, I don't know when this access was taken away, but I'd think it was the same timeframe as the STS.
There are 2 seperate issues.
- Chrome browser does not update: this is normal (I think since quite some time), as the chrome browser does not support Android 4.0 anymore. Just download another browser.
- Since a short time (days, weeks) there are some issues with the google services. Youtube doesn't start, sync doesn't work. Google Photos cannot login. But the play store does work fine.
This problem occurs on 3 seperate tablets, all with different google logins and configurations. I also tried resetting to factory state on one tablet, with the same results.
This is not because of android 4.0, because I have other devices that are older (even 2.3) that still work fine. There is probably a Google-Service update that does not play nicely with the tablet S (or maybe even other tegra 2 chipsets).
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FYI:
It is indeed an incompatability between the latest Google-Services and Tegra2 chip.
All Tegra2 devices seems to be impacted, including the devices that are updateable to a newer version of android.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false
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There are 2 seperate issues.
- Chrome browser does not update: this is normal (I think since quite some time), as the chrome browser does not support Android 4.0 anymore. Just download another browser.
- Since a short time (days, weeks) there are some issues with the google services. Youtube doesn't start, sync doesn't work. Google Photos cannot login. But the play store does work fine.
This problem occurs on 3 seperate tablets, all with different google logins and configurations. I also tried resetting to factory state on one tablet, with the same results.
This is not because of android 4.0, because I have other devices that are older (even 2.3) that still work fine. There is probably a Google-Service update that does not play nicely with the tablet S (or maybe even other tegra 2 chipsets).
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It is indeed an incompatability between the latest Google-Services and Tegra2 chip.
All Tegra2 devices seems to be impacted, including the devices that are updateable to a newer version of android.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false
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Thanks for the info! I will keep looking at the various sites to see if a fix for the Tegra devices comes out, but I'm not counting on it. Again, everything by Google but the Chrome browser and the Play Store seem to be affected, so the main reason I use Google is gone for two devices. If it isn't a Google app, they do work. YouTube works in the browser, but not Cast, etc. Hulu works.
I have other tablets and phones that have ARM processors, so I don't need to buy anything, but it is disappointing that they screwed up two good Google devices I have, one being in use everyday until it happened. That reminds me, I have a Chromebook with a Tegra chip - I'll have to check on that...updating from 59..0.2924.87 to...56.0.2924.110 - no problems. This is a Samsung XE303C12.
Thanks a lot spicyalan for the info about all Tegra2 devices being affected.
I've just installed Google Play Services version 10.5.42 (beta) and it seems to have solved the issue . At least I can use Gmail and YT freely, without crashes or FCs.
Afterwards, I have checked your link (https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false) and others have confirm this to be a working solution (at least for the time being).
Cheers!:good:
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Thanks a lot spicyalan for the info about all Tegra2 devices being affected.
I've just installed Google Play Services version 10.5.42 (beta) and it seems to have solved the issue . At least I can use Gmail and YT freely, without crashes or FCs.
Afterwards, I have checked your link (https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false) and others have confirm this to be a working solution (at least for the time being).
Cheers!:good:
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Agreed, the 10.5.42 beta works on my Asus TF101 and my Sony Tablet S, both having Android 4.0.3.
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Hey guys,
Long term LG user here, wanting to stick with my good ole G5 despite the age starting to show. As far as I understand, the latest official version of Android that supported the G5 was 8.0, and that's the latest my phone will let me go ofc. Now, the problem is, a bunch of apps no longer work, and Google Play is being weird even after a factory reset, so I can't find a whole bunch of apps such as BlaBlaCar, for example. Like, I know they are there... if I go on another phone they will be too (or through my PC) but if it detects LG G5, it pretends the apps don't exist. Long story short, I'm thinking some of these apps just don't work on older Android versions anymore. That being said, what would you guys suggest? There are hundreds of custom roms out there (or so it seems anyway), but which one works provenly well and offers apps from GStore (or another place, I'm good with that too if there's a reliable store) that actually work? I am a total newbie when it comes to custom roms, so far I've heard about Lineage, but really not sure about anything else. Any tips?
Hi, I would remove the play store and play services, replacing Play services with microg. Microg is an open source reimplementation of Play Services. It is very light, but it's not compatible with apps like Meet and Duo.
Instrad of the play store you can use Aurora Store, you can find it here on XDA. It is an unofficial client for the Play Store that works both with an anonymous account or with your own google account. It can also spoof the phone make and model, so you can be sure you will find all the apps. I'm using Oreo as well, and it still works perfectly with almost any app.
Edit: I tried to download BlaBlaCar on my G5 using Aurora store, it works as expected.
Ah, I see. So what you're saying is don't mess with custom roms at all? But how do I get rid of Play Services if I don't get a custom version of Android working, and to do that I probably need to unlock my phone/boot loader, right? Or do you just mean .. just... don't use Play Store and use Aurora Store instead? Tried the latter, and it definitely works. Now I just need to get rid of Play Store and all that, any recommendations on what to use to do that?
Although custom roms are great because they let you use the newest version of android, unfortunately there are some functions that are not supported, most notably the IR led to use the phone as a remote. Moreover in my opinion the LG camera app, supported only by LG roms, is the best camera app I've ever tried. You can flash TWRP or OrangeFox as recovery, and then remove the play store and play services from there. OrangeFox in particular has a specific 'app uninstall' function that makes very easy to remove apps. That is possible if you can unlock the bootloader. If your phone does not support bootloader unlocking, you can disable the play store from settings->applications or using adb command pm disable. In this case by the way I wouldn't suggest to disable play services, as there would be no way to replace them with microg.
Ah, right, thanks man! I'll give it a shot and see what I can do
Google Lens is already on the phone, but there's still the Google Lens app in the store that you can install. There's also GPay already on the phone, but some apps tell me to install Google Pay from the store.
Why? Does having double the apps screw with anything in the long run?
Maybe updates? I would go with the factory load versions unless they don't work well.
For Gpay, the one on the phone is the old version. They are pushing everyone to upgrade to the new version, that is the one in the store.
I don't use Gpay. The worst that will likely to happen if you don't upgrade is eventually it will stop working. You could get into issues with Playstore which demands updating. Playstore is so on my bad side, I rarely use it anymore.
I use the factory load versions for most of the Google apps especially Gmail and Gmaps as the update's UI's* sucked. Some of the Google system apps are factory load too because the update caused issues like excessive battery consumption*. So it is after 2 years, current load is over 1.5 yo, still fast, stable and user friendly.
You should experiment to see what works best for you. Just be aware that updates (especially firmware) can break just as easily as they can fix devices.
*Samsung seems to modify these and many times the factory load version works best. Or perhaps it's just the oldest version before Google screwed them up more
I installed the Google Assistant app just so I could add it as an icon to my home screen in Nova Launcher.
It's for people who root and want specific apps installed without installing the background/integration stuff.