ATT locked Duo, can i use WIFI only? - Microsoft Surface Duo Questions & Answers

i thinking of getting a Duo to play with,
ATT locked is the cheapest, i just want to use it with WIFI only, can i do that?
(i'm with Verizon Visible prepaid), no plan to use it with Visible, just want it to use with WIFI as a toy. can i use it with wifi only?

I did so while waiting several weeks for mine to be unlocked.

netnerd said:
i thinking of getting a Duo to play with,
ATT locked is the cheapest, i just want to use it with WIFI only, can i do that?
(i'm with Verizon Visible prepaid), no plan to use it with Visible, just want it to use with WIFI as a toy. can i use it with wifi only?
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yes, and it can easily be unlocked through either AT&T, or Microsoft support will give you the unlock code if you can't get it from AT&T

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Q free wifi tethering

Im thinking about jumping ship from android (evo 4g) to the titan. One of the biggest things holding me back is the ability to tether for free via USB and wifi with android. Is this an option with the titan?
Russellhi said:
Im thinking about jumping ship from android (evo 4g) to the titan. One of the biggest things holding me back is the ability to tether for free via USB and wifi with android. Is this an option with the titan?
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I have the unlocked UK version of the phone and it does have Internet Connection Sharing in settings for sharing via wifi. Not sure if other versions of the phone will have it. AT&T phones will probably come with it locked down, not sure if unlocking the phone will also allow access to Internet Connection Sharing.
Thanks for the info. Hopefully unlocking the phone will let me tether it. I'm going to wait and see if it works before I buy it.
Would also love some more info. Was able to stealth-tether with my Focus without unlocking/jailbreaking, and that was super-handy since I do it so rarely and don't want to have to add it to my plan...
Now the Focus is dead and I'm 99% likely to be purchasing a Titan tomorrow.
drokkon said:
Would also love some more info. Was able to stealth-tether with my Focus without unlocking/jailbreaking, and that was super-handy since I do it so rarely and don't want to have to add it to my plan...
Now the Focus is dead and I'm 99% likely to be purchasing a Titan tomorrow.
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Looks like expansys is carrying the us version now with the hspa+ 850,1900,2100 bands. That one looks non carrier branded so it should work with internet connection sharing. Really curious if someone has a AT&T Titan they have unlocked that allows ICS.
win7463 said:
Looks like expansys is carrying the us version now with the hspa+ 850,1900,2100 bands. That one looks non carrier branded so it should work with internet connection sharing. Really curious if someone has a AT&T Titan they have unlocked that allows ICS.
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I have it unlocked on Telus. Just tried the internet sharing and funny enough it still says to contact ATT or dial 611 lol.. So I'm with Telus yet I need to contact ATT?? Right..
I have SIM-FREE UK version and can tether on Giffgaff gigabags. No issues at all. No jailbreaking needed, no unlocking of any sorts.
Sounds like the conclusion here is the unlocked unbranded version is okay to to use Internet Sharing.
AT&T locked or unlocked (like me) you are out of luck.
However I'm curious who can actually unlock this feature for an unlocked ATT model. Your current carrier? ATT directly? HTC?
Or are you just screwed?
pistol44 said:
Sounds like the conclusion here is the unlocked unbranded version is okay to to use Internet Sharing.
AT&T locked or unlocked (like me) you are out of luck.
However I'm curious who can actually unlock this feature for an unlocked ATT model. Your current carrier? ATT directly? HTC?
Or are you just screwed?
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But do you mean that you don't have this ICS option in your settings list?
or does turning ICS on, doesn't do anything?
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But do you mean that you don't have this ICS option in your settings list?
or does turning ICS on, doesn't do anything?
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Not sure what you mean...
I do have the Internet Sharing option is settings.
When I turn it on it says "Connection not shared - To enable tethering on this device, go to att.com/mywireless or dial 611"
It's unlocked and not on ATT.
pistol44 said:
Not sure what you mean...
I do have the Internet Sharing option is settings.
When I turn it on it says "Connection not shared - To enable tethering on this device, go to att.com/mywireless or dial 611"
It's unlocked and not on ATT.
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oh I meant Internet Connection Sharing.
It more looks like its your SIM that might not be compatible to tether on titan? When I turn it on, it shows me devices I can pair with and then it needs connection using passcode.
drupad2drupad said:
oh I meant Internet Connection Sharing.
It more looks like its your SIM that might not be compatible to tether on titan? When I turn it on, it shows me devices I can pair with and then it needs connection using passcode.
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Oh, well I assume you're not using an unlocked ATT Titan? I know the unbranded model has no issues with internet sharing.
I was trying to get tethering working as well (at&t titan on Rogers) i phoned around and the HTC rep said tethering needs to be added onto my account. I have a 6GB data plan that does not include tethering (i know rogers says anything over 1GB has it but technically my account does not include it). The Rogers Rep said i would need ot go down to a 1GB plan for them to addon tethering to my account and then the phone should authenticate and work.
Is anyone here able to test that out and confirm?
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my current theory is that the at&t phone actually authenticates back to the carrier to verify tethering is added onto the account rather than just sharing out its current internet connetion.
if anyone can test and get back to us it might be helpfull
averma said:
I was trying to get tethering working as well (at&t titan on Rogers) i phoned around and the HTC rep said tethering needs to be added onto my account. I have a 6GB data plan that does not include tethering (i know rogers says anything over 1GB has it but technically my account does not include it). The Rogers Rep said i would need ot go down to a 1GB plan for them to addon tethering to my account and then the phone should authenticate and work.
Is anyone here able to test that out and confirm?
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my current theory is that the at&t phone actually authenticates back to the carrier to verify tethering is added onto the account rather than just sharing out its current internet connetion.
if anyone can test and get back to us it might be helpfull
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I'd be surprised if that actually worked. However I have speculated a way that should allow unlocked ATT branded Titan users like us to be able to use Internet Sharing. Sadly this won't be an option until the next MS Windows Phone update is rolled out. I'll explain..
When I had my HD7 it was T-Mobile branded unlocked on Wind Mobile. At first it was filled with all kinds of T-Mo apps etc and similarly locked to T-Mo within the OS. But once the updates starting rolling out from MS I forced them to my phone rather than waiting for T-Mo and it essentially made it become unbranded. The Internet Sharing feature was available as an update on my HD7 when the unbranded models received theirs and it was fully functional. So whenever MS rolls out whatever next update there is forcing it to our Titans should make it fully unbranded and at the same time unlock our Internet Sharing feature.
I'm with At&t and can verify that once I switched my plan from unlimited to "4g with tethering" I've been able to use Wifi Sharing. In fact i'm using it right now.
I think it's a value in the registry to check or not. We'll see once we can edit it.
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Add me to the list of ppl curious how to do it for free. I very rarely use the option, but I'd like it nonetheless...
Titan on Rogers
I have an AT&T branded Titan unlocked running on Rogers. I had a 1GB plan without tethering and I was getting teh same issue when I tried to enable tethering. So, I phoned Rogers and now I have a 6GB plan which has tethering enabled.
Restarted my phone, same issue.
I think that in order for this to work either I have to update the phone so that it is unbranded (how would I do this?) OR there is a registery key or file that needs to be changed so that the check to the carrier no longer happens.
Hmmmmm....
I think i know what needs to be done. My buddy has a Samsung Focus Flash from At&t (forgot to check but i assume it would give him the same At&t tethering message we're all getting).
Anyways we interop unlocked it and pushed the wifi tethering patch for WP7 and my guess it overwrote the At&t lockdown because he is able to tether without any issues.
Good news is we can get it working - bad news we have to wait for someone to interop unlock the Titan - which so far hasn't been done
This whole thing with tethering is flat getting old. We should have it std on the phone if we have an unlimited plan like I do and some of the others do. This sucks and is a good reason to take our business elsewhere where the feature is included.
I really don't use it much but that is not the point.
Okay, I'm done ranting and raving about this and I am back to normal.

[Q] Can you use the Atrix without any carrier?

I bought the atrix when it came out and left my family and their plan for it (I was still using a first gen Razr and wanted a smartphone/data), I need to save money so I'm joining back up with my family, my choices are to have them switch over to ATT or have me switch over to Tmobile. (Comparable price, so that's not the concern)
I would not be able to use 4g with tmobile so would need a new phone.
So my question is: Can I still use the atrix over wifi without using either att, tmobile or any carrier? Since I paid so much for it and its better than any free phone I would like to keep using it for wifi if i switch to tmobile.
OR
Should I just have my family switchover to ATT since they don't care and I can keep my phone/service? The monthly price is pretty much the same and they definitely get all new phones with ATT.
I'm thinking to have everyone switch to ATT unless tmobile offers something great, but I still want to know if its possible to use if I have to switch.
uisgdlyast said:
I bought the atrix when it came out and left my family and their plan for it (I was still using a first gen Razr and wanted a smartphone/data), I need to save money so I'm joining back up with my family, my choices are to have them switch over to ATT or have me switch over to Tmobile. (Comparable price, so that's not the concern)
I would not be able to use 4g with tmobile so would need a new phone.
So my question is: Can I still use the atrix over wifi without using either att, tmobile or any carrier? Since I paid so much for it and its better than any free phone I would like to keep using it for wifi if i switch to tmobile.
OR
Should I just have my family switchover to ATT since they don't care and I can keep my phone/service? The monthly price is pretty much the same and they definitely get all new phones with ATT.
I'm thinking to have everyone switch to ATT unless tmobile offers something great, but I still want to know if its possible to use if I have to switch.
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Yes you can, you just have to disable insert sim card screen. Follow the instructions in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXDj-h1DEAM
You could just sim unlock it, flash a European radio, since those support tmobile bands and use the atrix on tmobile.
crnkoj said:
You could just sim unlock it, flash a European radio, since those support tmobile bands and use the atrix on tmobile.
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Nope. T-Mobile uses different frequencies in Europe than they do in the US so flashing a radio wont change a thing. You'd still get edge/2G though. And T-Mobile has started adopting AT&T's 3G/FauxG bands so depending on where you live, you might luck out and get 3G.
But yes, just download a VoIP app like Skype, Groove IP or Talkatone and you're set for wifi calls.
If you drop AT&T, get the unlock code first (even if you are going w/o any cell sefvice and do not need the code now). This is free, and will no longer be an option once you cancel with AT&T.
I use my ATRIX without service, using wifi only and use sipdroid with my google voice number for voip calling and you could use gv for texts as well. There is even an app, GV Full Integration, which you can use your gv number for texting through your native sms app or Go Sms. If you rather an inexpensive service, straight talk, $45 a month unlimited, just watch your data consumption, I believe they consider 2 GB a month "excessive usage" and will cut off your data as a warning but will restore it by calling customer service. Second time, no more service period.
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I'm using mine right now without mobile data.
Save more battery power by installing Network app by philipp mangelow to shut off the cell radio.

Will Straighttalk SIM work on unlocked H901?

Hello
I'm with ATT, but I want to switch to StraightTalk, since here in Miami, they use ATT anyways.
I also want to upgrade to the LG V10, but I want to get the T-Mobile variant (H901) since that one can be rooted.
So. Can I buy an H901 from ebay, wherever that is unlocked, and use the StraightTalk SIM on it? I will be able to root it, and get a sim card from StraightTalk that will work with ATT. Right?
Thanks
There should be no issue I have unlocked att phones I have use with t-mobile before might check to see what bands of lte att uses most In your area and check what bands the h901 uses
Buy an already unlocked Tmo phone if you can. If not, still OK, just get it unlocked. I would suggest buying from Amazon over eBay, better quality overall, less like to get ripped off, better sellers. As long as the device itself is fully paid they should unlock it. I've gone through major hassles getting my H901 unlocked, but it's done, as of today.
As far as Straight Talk, it should work. Tmo and ATT are mostly compatible with each other as far as networks are concerned. But check first. They both use SIM cards, so does ST. You should be able to switch pretty easily.
At work, we are affiliated with mywit.com, where we can buy refurbished phones in very good condition.
If I buy a T-Mobile phone that is locked to T-Mobile (as it says in the description), how would I use it on ATT until I decide to switch to StraightTalk?
The switch to Straight Talk involves our 3 phones, so it's something that I have to plan out; one of the phones lives in another city. So, I have to remain with ATT for now. How do I get this H901 to work with ATT? Can I do that somehow?
@nabril15: The answer is simple:
You cant use the phones with ATT or ST until they are unlocked from T-Mo's network. You can use T-Mo's Device Unlock app to get a temp unlock, but that only lasts 30 days. On the other hand, you should theoretically have no issues getting unlocks for all devices involved, if they are paid in full.
Unlock terms and conditions:
http://www.t-mobile.com/company/company-info/sim-unlock-policy/unlock-your-mobile-wireless-device.html
AnonVendetta said:
@nabril15: The answer is simple:
On the other hand, you should theoretically have no issues getting unlocks for all devices involved, if they are paid in full.
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And I can get this done by calling TMobile to unlock it even though I am NOT a customer of theirs?
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nabril15 said:
And I can get this done by calling TMobile to unlock it even though I am NOT a customer of theirs?
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No, t mobile won't unlock it for you if you're not a customer, feel free to try but i doubt they will
Check Swappa, usually on of the best prices and sellers will say if unlocked - also i believe i saw them on eBay for like 250$ unlocked and refurbished
I recently purchased the H901 unlocked from the guys at Mytecell on Swappa. I'm on att. Had to do some research on entering a new APN to get data and MMS to work, but overall satisfied.
Does anyone know if root or which roms will allow wifi calling on att networks?
To my knowledge you can only use WiFi calling on a Tmo-issued phone if you are on Tmo's network. Doesnt matter if you're rooted or what ROM you use, there is probably a server side check. And you generally can only use Tmo wifi-calling on stock based ROMs, no AOSP/CM.

Verizon

Just want to confirm that the Moto G Power works on Verizon in the USA. I see it has been rooted and such so this looks like my new phone to replace my trusty Shamu.
Thank you,
fasthair
Edit: I contacted Verizon via Twitter and they confirmed it will work on their network. C&P their reply...I appreciate the prompt response. Thanks for clarifying this information for me. I reviewed information internally and the Moto G Power XT2041 is compatible with our network. Does this help answer your question?
fasthair said:
Just want to confirm that the Moto G Power works on Verizon in the USA. I see it has been rooted and such so this looks like my new phone to replace my trusty Shamu.
Thank you,
fasthair
Edit: I contacted Verizon via Twitter and they confirmed it will work on their network. C&P their reply...I appreciate the prompt response. Thanks for clarifying this information for me. I reviewed information internally and the Moto G Power XT2041 is compatible with our network. Does this help answer your question?
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I recently purchased this phone unlocked through best buy. How/where can I download Verizon firmware to utilize wifi calling? Google, Verizon and Motorola have ran me on circles trying to solve this.
Bestbuy sells both the unlocked version and the Verizon version. Obviously the Verizon version would work with wifi calling, but what about the unlocked version?
htcnext said:
Bestbuy sells both the unlocked version and the Verizon version. Obviously the Verizon version would work with wifi calling, but what about the unlocked version?
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I have the unlocked version and it doesn't come with Wi-Fi calling. It runs only the android 10 software and Google apps for the messages and phone. I found a setting for wifi messages (though I've been having trouble sending and receiving) but no setting in the phone app or the device settings.
I'm hoping if I can find the Verizon firmware to download and enable wifi calling.
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I have the unlocked version and it doesn't come with Wi-Fi calling. It runs only the android 10 software and Google apps for the messages and phone. I found a setting for wifi messages (though I've been having trouble sending and receiving) but no setting in the phone app or the device settings.
I'm hoping if I can find the Verizon firmware to download and enable wifi calling.
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Check under the advanced settings in the mobile network settings. If it's not there, then Verizon might be blocking it. Cricket does the same thing, but they'll sometimes enable it for you if you ask nicely.
I have the unlocked version and it works on mine, but I have a Verizon MNVO sim.
I'm using Visible which is a Verizon mvno and wifi calling works (to my surprise actually)
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Check under the advanced settings in the mobile network settings. If it's not there, then Verizon might be blocking it. Cricket does the same thing, but they'll sometimes enable it for you if you ask nicely.
I have the unlocked version and it works on mine, but I have a Verizon MNVO sim.
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I have checked under those settings and there is nothing listed as Wi-Fi calling. On VPN and Private DNA.
Would you be able to give a screen shot or write out what you click on to see where out phones differ? Baffling why my phone doesn't not have that option and Verizon has been no help in figuring it out.
I bought a g power phone for my son from Google fi, but activated it on Verizon. It works on verizon's network with a verizon sim. I havent been able to make wifi calling work, any suggestions? Looked in advanced setting under mobile connections no wifi calling choices. Any help would be greatly appreciated
I do not have this phone but i used unlocked phones (3 different ones) on Verizon. Currently a razer 2 on Verizon. If you do not buy a carrier locked phone from them you can not have wifi calling. That is one perk of buying the phone from them. They will let you have volte but thats about it. , No visual voicemail either.
I understand this might be a dumb question, but why is WiFi calling so important? I would have thought most people would use Hangouts, Zoom, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, or Duo. Any of those effectively provide WiFi calling.
1901madison said:
I understand this might be a dumb question, but why is WiFi calling so important? I would have thought most people would use Hangouts, Zoom, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, or Duo. Any of those effectively provide WiFi calling.
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This is for a older person who is not tech savvy. The person just wants to make calls and not have to setup any of those other apps, too complicated.
1901madison said:
I understand this might be a dumb question, but why is WiFi calling so important? I would have thought most people would use Hangouts, Zoom, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, or Duo. Any of those effectively provide WiFi calling.
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WiFi calling is very handy if you use your phone in places where you might not have reliable cell coverage but do have WiFi (e.g., a basement, etc.). I've never tried it, but that might include an international location where you can't use cell but have access to WiFi.
My carrier is Sprint, and I can verify that the WiFi calling function is present under Settings, Network & Internet, Mobile Network, Advanced, and nestled under "Calling"
carnivalrejectq said:
I'm using Visible which is a Verizon mvno and wifi calling works (to my surprise actually)
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I'm in the process to switch to visible. Did you just put the sim and good to go? Or you need to add some extra APN to work?
PesSarmiento said:
I'm in the process to switch to visible. Did you just put the sim and good to go? Or you need to add some extra APN to work?
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On the G Power, yes , for whatever reason it works right away without messing with apns. Literally everything works. Other phones though you do have to add apns and mess about.
carnivalrejectq said:
On the G Power, yes , for whatever reason it works right away without messing with apns. Literally everything works. Other phones though you do have to add apns and mess about.
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Do you think I need to factory reset my phone and then insert the new visible sim card? I currently I'm using at&t. Or doesn't matter. Did you place the visible sim on a brand new phone or switch from a previous carrier?
PesSarmiento said:
Do you think I need to factory reset my phone and then insert the new visible sim card? I currently I'm using at&t. Or doesn't matter. Did you place the visible sim on a brand new phone or switch from a previous carrier?
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It was in a brand new phone yes, but no I don't think it matters. Should be good to go. If anything just restart the phone.
It's also my understanding that Verizon does not allow any Advanced Calling features on a carrier unlocked phone. With my last phone, however (Z4), I was able to flash the VZW image to enable those features on my unlocked phone: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ng-and-root-with-xt1980-3-on-verizon.3994025/
I just tried a similar process with the Moto G Power. I have a XT2041-4, which I have bootloader unlocked. I then downloaded the VZW rom from lolinet: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/sofia/official/VZW/
and patched the boot.img using Magisk. I then followed this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/moto-g-power-flashing-guide.4159301/
to flash the VZW image (XT2041-7) onto my XT2041-4 (including the patched boot.img). Fingers crossed.... And bootloop. So I recovered to RETUS via LMSA. But I haven't given up hope yet. Maybe someone else can chime in.
Got it working...
HD and WiFi Voice and Video Calling on XT2041-4 with Verizon
Prerequisites: You must bootloader unlock your XT2041-4. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a As far as I'm aware, this only applies to XT2041-4 on Verizon Wireless. To be clear, the XT2041-4...
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Question Locked AT&T S23U vs Unlocked S23U

Since the Galaxy S6 Edge days I've been getting AT&T branded Samsung phones. This time around due to initial perks of a trade in were better for the unlocked version of S23U, I went ahead and pre-ordered the unlocked version. Are there any drawbacks anyone has experienced with the unlocked version that would warrant me to cancel the order? Are there any AT&T features such as visual voicemail, personal hotspot or HD voice that isn't compatible with the unlocked, non carrier version? Any help would be appreciated as i believe I can still cancel the order.
Thank you.
With an unlocked phone, you cant call. But if you add a sim card into it you can do anything such as mobile data, call, hotspot, etc. An unlocked phone can work on any carrier. But it is still the same thing as an at&t version unless you add the sim card in it.
So I assumed if i insert my AT&T simcard it'll work just like an AT&T phone?
AeroSatan said:
So I assumed if i insert my AT&T simcard it'll work just like an AT&T phone?
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That's what I have done for every phone I have had since the S7 Edge on T-Mobile. Still using the same simcard since I started out with the (S7 Edge), then Note 8, S20U, S22U and now S23U and has worked fine with T-Mobile but without the carrier bloat. The only downside is Unlocked versions always get the updates last.
You can always flash U (carrier firmware) that is bit different from from U1 (factory unlocked) firmware. This way you'll get exactly the same experience as for the phone of any carrier directly. You can always switch back and forth with data wipe.
AeroSatan said:
So I assumed if i insert my AT&T simcard it'll work just like an AT&T phone?
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yes. and sorry for the late reply.
irshansk said:
You can always flash U (carrier firmware) that is bit different from from U1 (factory unlocked) firmware. This way you'll get exactly the same experience as for the phone of any carrier directly. You can always switch back and forth with data wipe.
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First time Sammy user here, so possibly a stupid question but... from my search it appears that other than carrier bloatware you don't loose anything by going to U1 firmware and possibly gain faster updates. Is that a correct? Seems to be the case for WiFi calling but what about ATT wifi hotspots for example?
Unlocked phones were useful for sticking local SIMs in them for international travel but with the new international plans pricing is actually reasonable so it is not worth the hassle.
AeroSatan said:
Since the Galaxy S6 Edge days I've been getting AT&T branded Samsung phones. This time around due to initial perks of a trade in were better for the unlocked version of S23U, I went ahead and pre-ordered the unlocked version. Are there any drawbacks anyone has experienced with the unlocked version that would warrant me to cancel the order? Are there any AT&T features such as visual voicemail, personal hotspot or HD voice that isn't compatible with the unlocked, non carrier version? Any help would be appreciated as i believe I can still cancel the order.
Thank you.
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I was in the same situation as you, and ordered the Unlocked version this time instead of the AT&T version. I am happy to report that everything is working. Visual Voicemail (Samsungs App), Personal Hotspot (aka Mobile Hotspot), HD Voice (VoLTE), and WiFi Calling.

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