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I am not really comfortable with the idea of sharing data with Google, so I wonder how it could be possible to run Android without the Google apps.
Using CM7 as the base for my devices (SE X10 mini pro & ZTE Blade) is already a good starting point, by not installing the GAPPS package.
But then what?
How to get apps from the market without GAPPS?
Which (offline) navigation software instead of Google Maps?
Which calendar app instead of Google Calendar?
Any other Google service replacement?
Any suggestions are highly appreciated.
You could probably use amazon appstore instead of market. The real market requires google's framework. As far as the calender i'm not sure look around on the amazon market for one.
Personally i would just use gapps what could you possibly be doing where the info google collects could hurt you ? They don't collect personal data like sms or phone calls. So unless you download child porn its prob ok to use google's apps.
I am not thinking about anything illegal, but you can be identified by your (required) Google account, and once you enable data synchronization / localization service, or the background data submission required for using the Market, you are already deeply caught in the Google network.
I don't know about the Amazon Appstore. Does it feature the same apps as the Google Market? I guess not, and when I try to access it, it tells "The Amazon Appstore is only available to customers located in the United States.", so I don't think this is a suitable alternative anyway.
So the only real downside of not using GAPPS is access to the market. A possible workaround could be to use the Android emulator of the Android SDK to download apps, then package them up to APKs and copy them over to your mobile.
I am sure there are a lot of others which are not comfortable with Google as well, but do not want to surrender their Android phones.
If you just want the apps you can install them from your pc to your phone on the market website. If you don't have a Google account or want one at all maybe use 4shared to download them. You can also usually download them from the developers website.
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I am still testing the use of Android without GAPPS, but there are some issues I have no idea how to overcome:
There seems to be no suitable Calendar App that does not rely on the Google Calendar / synchronization with Google. My preferred app would have been aCalendar, which works kind of, but no appointment can be saved because it tells "You have no calendar". Any suggestions? How is the calendar issue solved on Android-without-GAPPS devices like the Kindle Fire?
Some apps simply can not be installed without the Google framework present. For example when trying to install the Adaffix and QR Droid apk's manually, it simply tells "Application not installed" without any error message pointing out the problem. Any idea about that?
These two issues are the main problems with having no GAPPS on the phone, and as much as I would have liked to run my Android phones without GAPPS, it seems there is no way around it, if one does not want to have it overly complicated.
I have been using android for a few weeks now with no google account. Installing a firewall and lbe privacy seems to work fine. Just dont allow any google services access to the net. Works fine for me
I don't understand why you would by a Google OS but not want google apps.
UPDATE: Android without GAPPS is a go now!
Android is NOT really a GoogleOS, it's a Linux distribution with proprietary Google apps added. You can successfully run Android without Google, which is what Amazon already proofed with the Kindle Fire on a large scale.
I am not talking about running Android without Google account, but Android without GAPPS installed, and I am happy to confirm, that it is indeed possible without too much hassle, since I overcame my initially major issues:
The calendar issue could be solved by installing Jorte, which uses its own database.
I simply omit apps which rely on the Google Framework, so I replaced QR Droid with Barcode Scanner, and just deleted Adaffix, for which there is no replacement (not that much of a loss, especially since I was not really sure about their privacy policy; would you willingly submit the phone numbers of all your callers to a private company?).
I am going to use MapQuest instead of Google Maps, a free app based on https://www.openstreetmap.org
I already installed all my apps, which I previously downloaded from the Market, on that Google-free phone, in addition to AdFree, to get rid of the advertisement in the typical free apps, as well as AmazonAppstore (just in case). Now for my kind of use I don't miss any Google services at all.
The next logical step is to install the Android SDK on a computer, run Android 2.3 including GAPPS for Market access in the Android emulator, and just download all the desired software and software-updates there, to be exported (using ASTRO) to the Google-free phone.
Some may argue that it may not be worth the hassle, but I am still in the opinion, that it's best not to share ANY data with Google ever.
BTW Don't use Google at all, not even for simple searches -> have a look at https://duckduckgo.com (they even have an Andoid app)!
Where to start?
Android is not a Linux distribution, it only uses a Linux kernel, these two mean vastly different things and should not be confused.
What exactly do you want to hide from Google?
Your email? It goes through dozens of servers without encryption. The only people not reading it are the ones who don't want to.
Your location? Your cell phone provider has it. And so does your government)
Your searches? Okay you're right on this one I use duckduckgo on my pc.
The point is that most of your data is tracked by hundreds of companies. They use your os and flash version, your cookies, user agent, screen resolution. You can run but you can't hide.
You're not on Facebook, are you?
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smokin1337 said:
You could probably use amazon appstore instead of market. The real market requires google's framework. As far as the calender i'm not sure look around on the amazon market for one.
Personally i would just use gapps what could you possibly be doing where the info google collects could hurt you ? They don't collect personal data like sms or phone calls. So unless you download child porn its prob ok to use google's apps.
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Never make the assumption that if you're not going anything illegal than you shouldn't worry about tracking. Never never never. Okay? If you do you don't deserve privacy. Read "little brother" by Cory Doctorow.
For the calendar and the contacts i use to synchronise every day my Desire S with an old version of Lotus Notes (7.xx) on my Job computer. I use MyphoneExplorer with a USB connexion. It works very well without microsoft exchange or any connexion with google agenda.
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From my point of view I consider everything based on the Linux kernel a Linux distribution. Android = Linux kernel plus a bunch of open source software, the proprietary Google code does not have to be considered to be part of the base system.
What I want to hide from Google? About everything. Isn't it the same with Facebook, where the user is not the customer, but the product?
Of course everybody leaves a large track in the net, but one can at least try to prevent data sharing as much as possible, and not using Google services and not providing them any additional info is part of it.
Of course that topic is mind splitting, but I know I am not alone on this, and as shown, it it indeed possible to successfully use an Android phone completely without Google, and I do not see any disadvantage in it.
Hope this helps:
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-download-any-apk-to-your-computer-62153/
(apk leecher)
There are many other reasons for wanting to avoid Google. For example, let's say you have your contacts synchronized. You're using gmail and calendar and you have a card linked to your Google Play account.
You go on holiday and you card gets cloned. The criminal uses your card to do something horrendous and you wind up in jail. Because you had all your eggs in one basket your account has been disabled and your defense has no access to your emails to plan your case and defend you in court. You're utterly screwed.
By using different companies and services you at least have more chance of keeping access to those services.
Google services are pretty monolithic. They're great, but there's advantage in using separate services if you can.
Here are some alternatives to the Google apps:
- Gmail = K9mail
- Play = app leacher, sdk virtual image method. fDroid
- Maps = MapQuest. Various SatNav apps. Waze
- GTalk = Skype or Fring (though both of those aren't greatly done). Various SIP/VoIP apps like cSipSimple
- contacts = t9dialer?
- Goggles = any barcode scanner will do for me
- any others?
I use f-droid.org .
It is strictly open-source. Has all the basic apps in there (Email, Firefox, tons of Timers, AlarmClocks, etc).
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You're not on Facebook, are you?
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Of course ! Why not ? Facebook leaves you the choice what to upload.
i agree with this thread, i dont mind sharing my information with companies, i do it all the time, but i dont like forced sharing with no opt out, this is essential stealing. eg ics and motoblur contacts
i guess you could say the opt out is to not install, which is what the thread is talking about
i think we are lucky to have android available without the gapps bloat such as with cyanogen mod
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I use f-droid.org .
It is strictly open-source. Has all the basic apps in there (Email, Firefox, tons of Timers, AlarmClocks, etc).
Of course ! Why not ? Facebook leaves you the choice what to upload.
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// Puts on tinfoil hat.
Sure kid. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
haydent said:
i agree with this thread, i dont mind sharing my information with companies, i do it all the time, but i dont like forced sharing with no opt out, this is essential stealing. eg ics and motoblur contacts
i guess you could say the opt out is to not install, which is what the thread is talking about
i think we are lucky to have android available without the gapps bloat such as with cyanogen mod
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here's my fix http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808037
zzerozzero1 said:
I use f-droid.org .
It is strictly open-source. Has all the basic apps in there (Email, Firefox, tons of Timers, AlarmClocks, etc).
Of course ! Why not ? Facebook leaves you the choice what to upload.
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Actually facebook track you a lot. Use your browser to visit youtube and you'll see a share button for it just as many sites have now.
Facebook know a lot about where its members visit
Dave
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// Puts on tinfoil hat.
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LOL ...
You obviously don't agree. Which is fine.
But plz don't troll
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mistermentality said:
Actually facebook track you a lot. Use your browser to visit youtube and you'll see a share button for it just as many sites have now.
Facebook know a lot about where its members visit
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I have been using Ghostery and Adblock Plus for years. They should take care of that.
If your really worried about your privacy you should check out Orbot the Tor client for android (https://guardianproject.info/apps/orbot/)
I will revive this thread, because I also install CM10.1 and try to use withoug GAPPS.
My phone is already running much smoother than with stock rom (Galaxy S3 I9300).
No Samsung push service, Google push, Calender...
So I am already using f-droid and androidpit now. At the moment I am missing Skype and Facebook Messenger.
I know worrying about privacy + using facebook might sound strange. But most friends I can only contact by Facebook (or SMS, lol), so I have to use it.
David.
Anyone tried it ? What are the first impressions ?
http://developer.android.com/guide/google/gcm/index.html
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Anyone tried it ? What are the first impressions ?
http://developer.android.com/guide/google/gcm/index.html
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Why should anybody want this?
Well, it depends from the app, iOS has push notifications (which are almost the same), and this one will be good if you want to send messages to users app remotely - for example alerting them for event or something ....
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Well, it depends from the app, iOS has push notifications (which are almost the same), and this one will be good if you want to send messages to users app remotely - for example alerting them for event or something ....
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But you could have done this without google... push notifications do not require a server by google (however you need one, but that shouldn't be the problem these days)
iOS and Windows Phone both have an OS dependant push notification service. That's simple because you have (or had) no internet connection from background apps on those OSs - so the only way to reach an app is via push using apple/microsoft servers - android does not have this restriction - so why give your/your user's data to google?
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....... the only way to reach an app is via push using apple/microsoft servers - android does not have this restriction - so why give your/your user's data to google?
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To avoid having background tasks and permanent connections that would degrade the performance of the device.
However, I don't feel that sending a push message that just tells the user that there's new stuff in the app hurts or discloses any private info. Even, thanks to Android, you could use the push notification to "awake" the app, then the app connects silently to your own server to get the info it needs, without google knowing, and closing the connection right after.
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To avoid having background tasks and permanent connections that would degrade the performance of the device.
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That's not correct - you just give away the background task / permanent connection to another application, it's still needed. Moreover, with using this "service" you force your users to have gapps installed (and currently also JB, as gcm is currently only available in the newest Google APIs)
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However, I don't feel that sending a push message that just tells the user that there's new stuff in the app hurts or discloses any private info.
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If its only a tickle to notify the app that there is sth to update its not a privacy problem. But gcm allows you to send 4k of payload - this could be a private or chat message. (google gives such an example: http://developer.android.com/guide/google/gcm/adv.html#payload )
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Even, thanks to Android, you could use the push notification to "awake" the app,
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That's right, but the question is if I - as a user for now - want this. Should the app developer (and Google!) be able to start apps on my phone to do things?
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without google knowing
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I'm not going to tell you that google will know about it - it's up to you to find this out.
I agree, being not universal is a problem. But I prefer just an open connection to a notification server than many connections and multiple background services that developers might have not optimized.
Regarding what Google knows or not, it actually has nothing to do with GCM
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I agree, being not universal is a problem. But I prefer just an open connection to a notification server than many connections and multiple background services that developers might have not optimized.
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GCM does not stop developers from doing **** with their background services.
You might be right, that one connection is better than many, however it is important to see, that most traffic on android devices today is with google servers - even if your mails are not there. All this traffic is not done with a single connection, but often many parallel connections. So google should optimize thier own things, else this is useless to me, as i do not need those google apps and i would have less connections with every other app using their own connection than with google apps installed.
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GCM does not stop developers from doing **** with their background services.
You might be right, that one connection is better than many, however it is important to see, that most traffic on android devices today is with google servers - even if your mails are not there. All this traffic is not done with a single connection, but often many parallel connections. So google should optimize thier own things, else this is useless to me, as i do not need those google apps and i would have less connections with every other app using their own connection than with google apps installed.
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However GCM is just an additional option for developers, which itself is good. The C2DM was a poor try to make things done. I hope this time its better
pandata000 said:
However GCM is just an additional option for developers, which itself is good. The C2DM was a poor try to make things done. I hope this time its better
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GCM is just an additional option for developers who want to make their apps incompatible with AOSP. However as there still are developers out there that do not know what AOSP is, they do not know that using GCM makes them incompatible. So GCM is not good at all, because it may be used "accidentally" by those developers.
So GCM is even worse than the pendants for iOS or WP, because there the push service is available for everyone.
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GCM is just an additional option for developers who want to make their apps incompatible with AOSP. However as there still are developers out there that do not know what AOSP is, they do not know that using GCM makes them incompatible. So GCM is not good at all, because it may be used "accidentally" by those developers.
So GCM is even worse than the pendants for iOS or WP, because there the push service is available for everyone.
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Agree ! But without any other alternatives, it's still an option
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Agree ! But without any other alternatives, it's still an option
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There is an alternative: write your own stuff. A push server is not that complicated. As you propably already got a server (because i dont think you want to send GCM pings from your home ) you got all you need, to not use GCM.
Hello
Google Cloud Messaging apparently not working on my device. Reported by a web service (not from Google but using GCM). Why?
My Google account fully configured and all used services assigned and working.
Where's the problem??
This is used by a few big developers. In their own apps. One of the biggest being AOKP with their AOKP push app.
Wayne Tech Nexus
In new Cyanogenmod Google CloudMessaging been used. CM 10 encodes SMS and these SMS been send per Google Cloud Messaging. CM is Open Source so you can get tipps from there
Second space is a very innovative feature in miui which I miss elsewhere. The main fun is switching like user account from same lock screen with just the password (fingerprint also). Simply screen off and place the other finger on the fingerprint scanner. Is this available on any custom oreo rom?
user8079 said:
Second space is a very innovative feature in miui which I miss elsewhere. The main fun is switching like user account from same lock screen with just the password (fingerprint also). Simply screen off and place the other finger on the fingerprint scanner. Is this available on any custom oreo rom?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lbe.parallel.intl
Now go to sleep.
Stevica Smederevac said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lbe.parallel.intl
Now go to sleep.
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Parallel space app is like alternative to already present dual app feature where you can have multiple account for some apps like whatsapp, fb etc..
Second space is more like multi user feature which android have since lollipop.. but main difference is in multi user you create various users which you can access from
Notification tray ..select another user then it take few seconds to switch .. like switch to guest mode.. and it also take time to switch back..
Second space is like keeping only 2 user account ..but switch is very convenient and fast ..and you don't need mi account for that..
Hope I am able to explain..
Good night
You can use Island, which utilizes Android for Work to do the similar.
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krasCGQ said:
You can use Island, which utilizes Android for Work to do the similar.
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Hey can you give more details ? Like the link or anything to know how to find the sources and use?
Wuttodo said:
Hey can you give more details ? Like the link or anything to know how to find the sources and use?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/closed-beta-test-incoming-companion-app-t3366295
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Anyone find a good alternative yet island sounds promising besides it still being in beta. I primarily use second space for its multiuser aspect and to map 18 instead of just 9 places in google maps. This is really the only thing holding me back from switching to lineage from miui :fingers-crossed:
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Anyone find a good alternative yet island sounds promising besides it still being in beta. I primarily use second space for its multiuser aspect and to map 18 instead of just 9 places in google maps. This is really the only thing holding me back from switching to lineage from miui :fingers-crossed:
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Try to use two user accounts , you can switch easily on lockscreen or power menu
Miui multiple spaces
I currently using 5 spaces in redmi note 4.how to create more spaces in my phone.
There is limit applied due to which i can create upto 5 spaces only.
naseefnachi said:
Try to use two user accounts , you can switch easily on lockscreen or power menu
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But is it possible, that you get the notification for both user accounts on both sides?
I have used Shelter on Custom ROM: a Free and Open-Source (FOSS) app that leverages the “Work Profile” feature of Android to provide an isolated space that you can install or clone apps into.
Shelter - Apps on Google Play
Isolate Apps / Multiple Accounts
play.google.com
ChriMo said:
I have used Shelter on Custom ROM: a Free and Open-Source (FOSS) app that leverages the “Work Profile” feature of Android to provide an isolated space that you can install or clone apps into.
Shelter - Apps on Google Play
Isolate Apps / Multiple Accounts
play.google.com
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No shelter cannot :
PIN LOCK CODE { X } > USER PROFILE { X }
MIUI can open different user profile on pin/password.
Hi guys, not sure if this is the right place to do this but i've got a question i hope i can get clarified here with you experts
I am a PM that is in charge of a managing the delivery and development of a business's mobile application. Recently the company is looking to get rid of the incumbent developer due to unprofessional-ism and exorbitant fees. The other technology partner i am directly engaging with is a newly appointed development house and is tasked to clone the app and add additional features the incumbent refuses to add on.
Come launch date, the business requires the new app to replace the old app. To the existing customer base, the goal is to ensure that the transition is as seamless as possible. They are hoping that when existing users open the app, they will be prompted to install an update where the old one is then replaced with the old one. As such, is it possible for the new technology partners to this? What are the necessary steps required? I am trying to ensure that all necessary precautions and dependencies are covered to ensure any potential backlash / fallout. Is it as simple as obtaining the app certificate and ensuring the apk is named exactly the same? Any advice would be helpful.
The worst case scenario here would be to get the users to reinstall the app entirely or treat it as a completely separate app. :crying:
You need the signature keys of your first developer to sign the new APK which needs to have the same package name. And access to the dev console. Then you can upload the new app which will be treated as every other update by Google Play. Without changing the first app you won't be able to force the users to update AFAIK.
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You need the signature keys of your first developer to sign the new APK which needs to have the same package name. And access to the dev console. Then you can upload the new app which will be treated as every other update by Google Play. Without changing the first app you won't be able to force the users to update AFAIK.
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Hi thanks for the reply. Much appreciated! Would this be similar for iOS as well?
Relating to the last statement. What do you mean by "without changing the first app.."
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Hi thanks for the reply. Much appreciated! Would this be similar for iOS as well?
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I don't have enough experience with iOS to comment on that.
Relating to the last statement. What do you mean by "without changing the first app.."
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While you can upload a new version of the same app the users would still have to manually (or automatically if their device is configured that way) download it. Google released a "forced update" API a while ago. If that is included in your old app that might help. Otherwise you would have to add it manually which would require access to the source code. But then the users would have to manually update too so it would be quite useless.
So one way to force them to update is to disable all APIs the app might use but that might alienate the users as they have no clue why it stopped working. So as long as you have no notification system that is working right now you have to depend on your users updating.
Hi! Finally got my S23U and have begun setting it up.
All is good but was shocked to see the lack of multiple user feature on it. On my other android phone I create a "work" user which then has all settings/apps related to work. I can then switch amongst my profiles as needed. Note that my workplace pretty much controls the phone upon installing their security app (they could wipe out everything if need be) so these separate profiles is crucial.
I know Samsung has "secure folder" but unless I can have multiple of them it is not useful in this case. I cannot mix my personal stuff that I want to securely store with my work stuff on the same secure folder.
There are some apps on play store but are either non-standard (eg. Parallel Space) or not maintained (eg. Island).
Appreciate any suggestions.
Get a second work phone. I definitely wouldn't put their junkware on my personal phone!
[email protected] said:
Hi! Finally got my S23U and have begun setting it up.
All is good but was shocked to see the lack of multiple user feature on it. On my other android phone I create a "work" user which then has all settings/apps related to work. I can then switch amongst my profiles as needed. Note that my workplace pretty much controls the phone upon installing their security app (they could wipe out everything if need be) so these separate profiles is crucial.
I know Samsung has "secure folder" but unless I can have multiple of them it is not useful in this case. I cannot mix my personal stuff that I want to securely store with my work stuff on the same secure folder.
There are some apps on play store but are either non-standard (eg. Parallel Space) or not maintained (eg. Island).
Appreciate any suggestions.
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You can install shelter from fdroid or island from google play and make a work profile without root.
spart0n said:
You can install shelter from fdroid or island from google play and make a work profile without root.
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Thank you for the suggestions. I'll check it out.
blackhawk said:
Get a second work phone. I definitely wouldn't put their junkware on my personal phone!
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My last option. Carrying two phone around is annoying when I could do it with just one before.
[email protected] said:
Hi! Finally got my S23U and have begun setting it up.
All is good but was shocked to see the lack of multiple user feature on it. On my other android phone I create a "work" user which then has all settings/apps related to work. I can then switch amongst my profiles as needed. Note that my workplace pretty much controls the phone upon installing their security app (they could wipe out everything if need be) so these separate profiles is crucial.
I know Samsung has "secure folder" but unless I can have multiple of them it is not useful in this case. I cannot mix my personal stuff that I want to securely store with my work stuff on the same secure folder.
There are some apps on play store but are either non-standard (eg. Parallel Space) or not maintained (eg. Island).
Appreciate any suggestions.
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Shelter is your friend.
Multiple Users was supposed to be included in OneUI 5.0 and was available in their beta. But for some unknown reasons, they removed this stock Android feature from the stable build.
[email protected] said:
My last option. Carrying two phone around is annoying when I could do it with just one before.
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Best to keep work and personal phones separate for a variety of reasons. Or simply only use/carry the work phone when at work. If your employer requires a work phone they should supply it... otherwise they shouldn't set requirements for a employee purchased phone.
blackhawk said:
If your employer requires a work phone they should supply it... otherwise they shouldn't set requirements for a employee purchased phone.
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Agree.
blackhawk said:
Best to keep work and personal phones separate for a variety of reasons.
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Can you elaborate on some scenarios when this will indeed be worth it, considering the inconvenience of carrying 2 phones.
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Can you elaborate on some scenarios when this will indeed be worth it, considering the inconvenience of carrying 2 phones.
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Just common sense. Keep your personal and business lives separate as much as possible.
Businesses are malware targets as well. You have no choice but to download business related e-docs. On my personal devices I closely monitor any downloads. Only installed 3rd party apps carry a higher risk of infection.
blackhawk said:
Just common sense. Keep your personal and business lives separate as much as possible.
Businesses are malware targets as well. You have no choice but to download business related e-docs. On my personal devices I closely monitor any downloads. Only installed 3rd party apps carry a higher risk of infection.
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That's exactly what Profiles do. They isolate and keep apps and their data separate, and do not allow apps in one profile to access data on another profile.
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That's exactly what Profiles do. They isolate and keep apps and their data separate, and do not allow apps in one profile to access data on another profile.
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It also slows the phone's performance down. You're still using the same sim, ip address, hardware; not near enough isolation. I don't like the plan, sorry.
[email protected] said:
Hi! Finally got my S23U and have begun setting it up.
All is good but was shocked to see the lack of multiple user feature on it. On my other android phone I create a "work" user which then has all settings/apps related to work. I can then switch amongst my profiles as needed. Note that my workplace pretty much controls the phone upon installing their security app (they could wipe out everything if need be) so these separate profiles is crucial.
I know Samsung has "secure folder" but unless I can have multiple of them it is not useful in this case. I cannot mix my personal stuff that I want to securely store with my work stuff on the same secure folder.
There are some apps on play store but are either non-standard (eg. Parallel Space) or not maintained (eg. Island).
Appreciate any suggestions.
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My S23U does have a Work profile (see attached screenshot) and, separately, a Secure Folder. They are not the same thing. It's basically like having three profiles on one device. My employer can only see the data in my Work profile.
blackhawk said:
It also slows the phone's performance down. You're still using the same sim, ip address, hardware; not near enough isolation. I don't like the plan, sorry.
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I haven't seen any performance drop. You can turn OFF work profile when required, and that will disable access completely.
pyrolad said:
My S23U does have a Work profile (see attached screenshot) and, separately, a Secure Folder. They are not the same thing. It's basically like having three profiles on one device. My employer can only see the data in my Work profile.
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How? Is it the US version?
pyrolad said:
My S23U does have a Work profile (see attached screenshot) and, separately, a Secure Folder. They are not the same thing. It's basically like having three profiles on one device. My employer can only see the data in my Work profile.
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I'm having issues enabling the work profile. How did you do it?
I was able to get it to work by using Island instead of Shelter
[email protected] said:
How? Is it the US version?
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I was able to get it to work by using the "Island" app. I've used "Shelter" for years but I don't think it's being developed anymore so I tried Island and it works.
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King-ish said:
I was able to get it to work by using the "Island" app. I've used "Shelter" for years but I don't think it's being developed anymore so I tried Island and it works.
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Island repo hasn't had any activity since Sept 2021.
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Island repo hasn't had any activity since Sept 2021.
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Their app was updated February of last year. My understanding is since these apps (Shelter/Island) are only making the work profile more accessible, there isn't a lot of development unless there is a major underlying change to the OS or Work Profile framework like with Android 13. The Android 13 beta was released February 10, 2022 and the last Island update was February 22, 2022.
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[email protected] said:
Island repo hasn't had any activity since Sept 2021.
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My preferred app for this is Shelter and I thought they abandoned it, but it looks like they update their app on F-Droid.
Shelter | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
Isolate and run multiple instances of apps using Work Profiles
f-droid.org
@King-ish Thanks! Went with the FOSS implementation of Island at Insular.
Have the work profile setup.