Hi, i was planning to buy the phone. My poor OnePlus 3T is dying and i thought the GT 2 Pro could be a good replacement. The only thing that is stopping me is the locked bootloader. I searched a bit and i read about the Depth Test app and such. Is there a way to unlock the Global Version bootloader? And there will be any development for the phone? I never had a Realme phone, what do you think about it? Did other realme phones had any community developments?
I wouldn't count on it. Only chinese firmware can be unlocked. Therefore, a significant community is not to be expected.
Edit: Happily, I have to correct myself. It's a moderate miracle.
Why would a locked bootloader stop you from this purchase? For the Chinese version I have uninstalled or suspended unwanted or Chinese language apps using ADB/ADB shell.
robert3892 said:
Why would a locked bootloader stop you from this purchase? For the Chinese version I have uninstalled or suspended unwanted or Chinese language apps using ADB/ADB shell.
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I try to keep a phone as much as possible, my nexus 5 survived 5 years and my OnePlus 3T is almost at its 6th birthday. If it wasn't for the community i couldn't have used it for this much time. And then i also want to have as much control as i can on what i own, if i can root the phone i can put an adblocker, i can uninstall everything i want and put all the patches i want.
that;s my concern on this phone. samsung promise a four system support and xiaomi ,oneplus do have big community to have custom rom even after they stop providing updates.(xiaomi usually provide 2 years of update)
from my opinion , if a phone can have 4 year official update is a must.
else we better go with iphone, it can confirm have at least 4 big system update , i don't think other than pixel or samsung will have this kind of long support.
Thanks god I read this
Today you can not even trust OnePlus with updates, a Realme is a no go with.locked bootloader.
Why wouldn't you just buy the global version and not even worry about bootloader's? I regret buying the China variant. biggest gripe was Google pay not working and even tho I got Google pay to work without unlocking or flashing anything there was just too much lacking with the China phone.
now that I have the global ROM flashed it's just gotten worse... Yeah I got my Google assistant to respond but now I can't play call of duty and use a bunch of other apps.
I don't think that would be that case if I would have just waited a month longer and got the global version instead.
If you worried about support and future updates, like others have said you should only expect the 4 promised, if that.
Tbh I'm looking to sell mine and dish out the extra for the Samsung.
If you do buy the phone.. do not but the China variant. Save yourself the headache
I would not get the chinese version but also not the global version with "forever locked bootloader"
Most of the chinese brands "forget" their phones after 1y, see OnePlus 9. Even cheap 3y old 200€ Samsung devices get faster updates than last year flagship...
I'm also planning to buy this phone but, no custom rom and development is my major concern.
I think I'll buy something else.
Linuxkek said:
I would not get the chinese version but also not the global version with "forever locked bootloader"
Most of the chinese brands "forget" their phones after 1y, see OnePlus 9. Even cheap 3y old 200€ Samsung devices get faster updates than last year flagship...
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True, but then again Samsung has tons more cash to spend on software development.
In my opinion don't buy it, i bought it thinking i could unlock it ... Well i would have not done. I had nexus 5 and op3 in last years, i think as you about smartphones
Yes:
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How does it work? You can use it even with a locked bootloader and no custom recovery?
Maybe I am confused but I own the GT 2 Pro global version and right there in developer options is "OEM Unlocking: allow bootloader to be unlocked." Does this not work and if so why is it even there?
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How does it work? You can use it even with a locked bootloader and no custom recovery?
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Interesting 3ad about GSI @ \e\ (privacy-oriented LOS-based distro) community forums:
Introducing /e/OS Generic System Images (GSI)
GIutton said:
Maybe I am confused but I own the GT 2 Pro global version and right there in developer options is "OEM Unlocking: allow bootloader to be unlocked." Does this not work and if so why is it even there?
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U can't, check this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/unlocked-bootloader.4407673/page-6
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U can't, check this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/unlocked-bootloader.4407673/page-6
That's a bit of a bummer. Paid more for the global version just to find out people are having success flashing the global ROM onto the much cheaper CN variants. Then there is even a guide to flash the CN ROM over the global ROM but Im guessing that is just for flashing back to CN ROM on an original CN phone that was previously flashed with global? Meaning we can't just take an RMX3301 and flash CN ROM to it then unlock bootloader from there?
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All we can do is email RealMe and keep requesting global bootloader unlocking.
This never happen before so just forget it :/
I think if enough people bombard RealMe with these types of request they might reconsider.
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Hi,
Some really bad news for anyone that's been unfortunate enough to purchase an A7 EU version.
I have contacted ZTEUK on FB messenger directly to ask about the Nougat update and this is their exact response.
"Hi Mike, Please keep an eye out on our social channels for any information regarding updates. We do not currently have plans to update to Nougat though this may change. Thanks, the ZTE UK team."
Taking into account the amount of EU phones out there this is beyond dreadful in terms of treatment, the question is, where do we go from here? I didn't want to bother rooting the phone, but is there any option left now it's possibly not getting the update at all?
No daydream, no patch fixes, no volume fix, the list goes on!!
How do we pressure ZTE into dealing with this, failing that what other options do we have?
Mike
Haha I doubt it, these customer reps have no idea.
There has been an extensive Nougat test going on as well as confirmations on twitter etc.
G Version will get Nougat.
iNaruX said:
Haha I doubt it, these customer reps have no idea.
There has been an extensive Nougat test going on as well as confirmations on twitter etc.
G Version will get Nougat.
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I hope so, that brings some comfort, really the reps should not give throw away replies like that.
Thanks :good:
Don't worry, it just furthers the idea that global organization of ZTE is totally lacking, especially for their EU customers (far behind their american ones). Nougat was announced first by ZTE Germany back in November (originally planned for end of january) and is currently undergoing beta testing as far as I know. The thing is, ZTE Germany is apparently taking care of the dev for the G version but they officially supports only german customers, even if they kinda tried to create an "european" community. Other european branches (it's the case for ZTE france at least) of ZTE seem to be only PR posting advertisement on facebook/twitter. IMO, your rep just copy pasted the basic stonewalling response to this question and has either no information whatsoever or wanted to answer politely without getting carried away.
(If anyone has more info, feel free to correct me)
G Variant will sure get the Nougat Update soon, ZTE UK should know this too dont know why you got this answer from them. But if you G Variant user, follow ZTE Mobile Deutschland on Facebook
Coming from US nougat. There's still bugs, battery drain, etc. Issues that are in the release. I'd rather be back in MM honestly. A stable and complete release would've been better instead of releasing early due to demand. Just look up the issue with whatsapp. Millions of users and they didn't notice such a glaring bug.
I can say without a doubt in my mind that the Axon 2017G will also get Nougat. They are usually a little behind the US team with releases so I imagine it will probably be sometime in March
I wouldn't be surprised if you could just flash the bootstack and modem from LineageOS thread and flash A2017U system on top. I'm totally satisfied with LineageOS, so I'm not even thinking on doing that now or in the future.
The G Variant needs more time than us because they want to fix all founded bugs and increase the quality. like musicdjm said, it will release end feb. or beginning of march. zte could Release it in the end of January but there were too many bug, because of that they started a beta test phase and postponed the Release date
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I wouldn't be surprised if you could just flash the bootstack and modem from LineageOS thread and flash A2017U system on top. I'm totally satisfied with LineageOS, so I'm not even thinking on doing that now or in the future.
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musicdjm said:
You can NOT, the team installed system checks to make sure of this as they have different bootloader and modem
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Yes you can. Few of us already using the B15 N ROM on the G model. All you need is an unlocked BL and TWRP, flash the universal N bootloader, N modem for G and the B15 stocksystem all by DrakenFX.
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Yes you can. Few of us already using the B15 N ROM on the G model. All you need is an unlocked BL and TWRP, flash the universal N bootloader, N modem for G and the B15 stocksystem all by DrakenFX.
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Have you done this yourself and it worked;
Yes and yes
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Can you please point me the thread where these files and the guide to do it are?
Chinese android 7?
I also interested in Chinese 7.0, no news or any rumours about it.
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Yes and yes
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Thats not correct , the phone never boot after this procedre!
The Phone stuck on Bootloader Warning Screen.
Ive testet much more 1 time .
Really is no Boot!
tester2017 said:
Thats not correct , the phone never boot after this procedre!
The Phone stuck on Bootloader Warning Screen.
Ive testet much more 1 time .
Really is no Boot!
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make sure to use su 2.79 (not sr3).
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Coming from US nougat. There's still bugs, battery drain, etc. Issues that are in the release. I'd rather be back in MM honestly. A stable and complete release would've been better instead of releasing early due to demand. Just look up the issue with whatsapp. Millions of users and they didn't notice such a glaring bug.
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I have the US ZTE Axon 7 (A2017U) and updated to Nougat. What is the WhatsApp bug again? I haven't noticed anything but you can tell me and I will cry in a corner once I know. :crying:
@op When everything else fails, go to change.org and create a petition. The ASUS Zenfone 2 users did that and they are apparently getting the Nougat update in July.
/xuggs
The Axon7 G Variant will directly get 7.1.1
How's software support from manufacturer? Will we be getting regular security patches OTA?
Will it be supported for at least 2 years?
Anybody owned an Oppo phone knows about their history with updates?
Also, is their OS smooth and battery efficient or just horrible?
Thanks for reading
I had the oppo find 7. The phone was very good in his time but the software was very buggy. Os updates were very bad and it tOok a very long time to see an update. At the end, oppo closed his website and community forums leaving europe. Fortunately, there was xda devs supporting the device like omnirom etc...
I like the oppo find x but i m very septical about the support and more about the camera mechanism durability. An other thing, viewing the camera mechanism, i douubt the phone have an ip certification.
Ps: i think oppo will leave the europe maket one more time because of their prices. They are not known in france for example and a basic configuration at 999€, peoples will prefer to buy an iphone or a samsung. Maybe a huawei or a xiaomi wich are more famous than oppo here.
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I had the oppo find 7. The phone was very good in his time but the software was very buggy. Os updates were very bad and it tOok a very long time to see an update. At the end, oppo closed his website and community forums leaving europe. Fortunately, there was xda devs supporting the device like omnirom etc...
I like the oppo find x but i m very septical about the support and more about the camera mechanism durability. An other thing, viewing the camera mechanism, i douubt the phone have an ip certification.
Ps: i think oppo will leave the europe maket one more time because of their prices. They are not known in france for example and a basic configuration at 999€, peoples will prefer to buy an iphone or a samsung. Maybe a huawei or a xiaomi wich are more famous than oppo here.
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I agree with you, you forgot The Lamborghini version At 1699 €. Huawei and recently Xiaomi are already well known and sold in France, paradoxically Oneplus too but not Oppo
I doubt Oppo will break into the European market. big company in Asia certainly but almost unknown in Europe and bad memories of their rotating camera on N1 and N3....
I'm from germany and i think nearly nobody here or in france/spain/italy/netherlands will ever buy this phone at a pricetag of 999€. Nobody knows Oppo so you can impress nobody with your "Noname Phone". If you want to spend that much money you simply buy an iPhone or a S9+.
The Huawei P20 Pro is only selling good at that high pricetag because of the telekom, o2 and vodafone with a contract. So you have to pay 1-300€ to get the device. An Oppo without contract is nearly impossible to sell.
Thanks guys for your replies.
ColorOS in Oppo Find 7 days were always a year behind. For instance, Android was at version 4.4 Kitkat and yet Find 7 was released with 4.3 Jelly Bean. It's true that Oppo had continued to support it for 3 years, but remember at that third year, Android was at 6.0.1 Marshmallow and yet Find 7's latest final release was Project Something OS which is 5.1 Lollipop.
For people that doesn't necessarily understand how to root, TWRP, or flash custom ROMs, something will go wrong during this process because none of those updates are OTA nor recommended by service centers.
Should something ever go wrong, Oppo official service centers will give you its original 4.3 Jellybean that does not even support unified partition of any kind.
Until this day, June 2018, people still asks me: "What kind a phone is that? The camera is amazing."
The camera is still amazing even for 2018. Unfortunately, Oppo is very bad at releasing software updates. For that department, Oneplus is the better sister company but its camera & audio is not as good as Oppo's.
I was told that if you want good audio, VIVO seems to be the better sister company but I haven't paid much attention to its camera & software update support. I hope this helps.
Anyone having an Oppo contact address? Marketing, developement section maybe. It looks like the support is bot driven. Asked them to forward my mail to the dev section, but well, lol.
To be honest Find 7 support was bad but also typical when considering it's contemporaries. At its introduction there was no monthly security update even for Nexus devices, it didn't exist. A whole bunch of OEMs were going to make you wait quite some time for updates and there would not be many. If they offer support similar to their contemporaries today as they did then it's going to be much better than it was for the Find 7.
Let's face it though; we're all going to have camera lift failure before the phone gets too antiquated.
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we're all going to have camera lift failure before the phone gets too antiquated.
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Anyone having an Oppo contact address? Marketing, developement section maybe. It looks like the support is bot driven. Asked them to forward my mail to the dev section, but well, lol.
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Lol.
I got money to spare and i really need a new phone (current daily driver is OP2 with official LOS 15.1).
How will the chinese version fare in Sweden/EU? I don't think localization will be an issue after setting it up, just wondering if there will be issues with 3G/4G etc.
I was looking for freqs but didn't see anything, have I missed it? I'd beware the Chinese model, those can be trouble with the play store everywhere else. That is usually overcome by development but there isn't any way to know how much development this thing will see just yet. I'd certainly wait till I knew what it's play status was and the freqs... Haven't seen anything concrete on bootloader locks if any just yet either when I think about it. You're going to need that to get where you want to go.
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Anyone having an Oppo contact address? Marketing, developement section maybe. It looks like the support is bot driven. Asked them to forward my mail to the dev section, but well, lol.
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Twitter is the best way
I have the Oppo Find 7; bought it in 2014. If I had to use one word to describe the official software support, its 'frustrating'. The software on the phone was always 2 versions behind the latest one every year. It was released with Jelly bean 4.3 and around that time 5.0 was just around the corner. It took them 2-2.5 years to release an Android 5.1 ROM. Every major update from Oppo required the users to factory reset the device and it was very difficult for a layman to perform these flashes every time a new ROM was released. All the official ROMs released were beta - Color OS 2.1 Beta, Spectrum 1.1 Beta etc. Usually you'll find tons of custom ROMs from third party developers from China devs but flashing them on the international version of the phone bricked the device. All of the oppo community was very active in reporting bugs and flashing ROMs, but the official supporters soon closed the community website and all other oppo forums as they couldn't keep up with the updates and bug fixes. Officially the Find 7 got 7 ColorOS ROMS (2.0.0, 2.0.4, 2.0.5, 2.0.7, 2.0.8, 2.1.0, 2.1.5 from 4.4 to 5.1) and all were Beta releases. All of them had at least one or more major bugs. ColorOS isn't user friendly and takes a lot of time to get used to, its a very bad attempt to copy iOS on iPhones. The only good part of the OS might be the camera.
I went to omni and never looked back; had no problems at all. You do bring up a good point though; a person should be prepared and willing to stay on the release software for some time. I myself will want to know who is going to be developing, or if there will be any at all. I'm fine with Oreo but I'm going to need an unlocked bootloader/magisk. As to their launcher, yeah, it's junk. Easily fixed at the play store however; I know I'll have my beloved Action Launcher on there in about 5 minutes. Assuming I buy of course, a lot of questions to be answered first.
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I went to omni and never looked back; had no problems at all..
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completly agreed
So basically unless we get custom roms for this phone - stay away.
I wouldn't go that far, if the bootloader is unlocked and you're good hanging on the delivered firmware it might still be a go. I would be as long as it's possible to enable double tap to wake, I hate having to swipe. The software itself was not that bad with the find 7, it was the craptacular launcher that hurt the stock experience.
All that said if a good developer picks one up and starts development that would make a buy decision easier to make.
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I was looking for freqs but didn't see anything, have I missed it? I'd beware the Chinese model, those can be trouble with the play store everywhere else. That is usually overcome by development but there isn't any way to know how much development this thing will see just yet. I'd certainly wait till I knew what it's play status was and the freqs... Haven't seen anything concrete on bootloader locks if any just yet either when I think about it. You're going to need that to get where you want to go.
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2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE：850/900/1800/1900MHz ；
2G CDMA： BC0/BC1/BC10 ；
3G TD-SCDMA/TD-HSPA：B34/B39；
3G WCDMA/HSPA：B1/B2/B4/B5/B8；
4G TDD-LTE：B34/B38/B39/B40/B41；
4G FDD-LTE：B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28A/B28B；
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I got money to spare and i really need a new phone (current daily driver is OP2 with official LOS 15.1).
How will the chinese version fare in Sweden/EU? I don't think localization will be an issue after setting it up, just wondering if there will be issues with 3G/4G etc.
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Based on Snapdragon 845 so there shall be no problem I guess.
2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE：850/900/1800/1900MHz ；
2G CDMA： BC0/BC1/BC10 ；
3G TD-SCDMA/TD-HSPA：B34/B39；
3G WCDMA/HSPA：B1/B2/B4/B5/B8；
4G TDD-LTE：B34/B38/B39/B40/B41；
4G FDD-LTE：B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28A/B28B；
I've had a few Oppo phones, and like others have said here, the biggest problem is software update speed. Their issue is that they use ColorOS, which is a heavy skin on the phone. They tapered it back some recently, but it still ends up making them delay updates because they have to do so much on their end.
The phones are always solid, high-quality phones. They just care too much about how the phone looks, rather than how current it is.
I have a NEX from China, and it was pretty simple to add Google services working flawlessly.
I assume same will be for FIND X which i have pre-ordered already should get it by 18th July.
hii, I first want to apologize for my bad english, it isn't my native language. secondly i wanted to ask if anybody here knows if lineageos or anything like these custom (nearly stock) roms is going to be available for the oppo find x and how long it would take before they will be released. I'm considering buying a OPX and i am pretty new to buying chinese phones, I heard a lot of complaints about not getting a notification of whatsapp or anything like this, I really don't like the idea that I would have to open whatsapp every time to see if i got a notification or not.
thanks for your help.
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hii, I first want to apologize for my bad english, it isn't my native language. secondly i wanted to ask if anybody here knows if lineageos or anything like these custom (nearly stock) roms is going to be available for the oppo find x and how long it would take before they will be released. I'm considering buying a OPX and i am pretty new to buying chinese phones, I heard a lot of complaints about not getting a notification of whatsapp or anything like this, I really don't like the idea that I would have to open whatsapp every time to see if i got a notification or not.
thanks for your help.
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No apologies needed,make yourself at home @maikonor ........... :good:
While I can't speak regarding Whatsapp,you can get timely notifications for email/other SMS/MMS messaging apps,but,a lot of digging around in the settings is involved. Nothing beyond most users expertise,it's just a lot of redundancy & repitition,but,once set-up,my notifications come through just fine.
As for development,it's not unheard of on Oppo devices,but,is it possible with this phone ? IDK if the current firmware/software will support it.
If the promise of root/ROMs is a must,it's probably gonna be a while before development takes grip,if it ever does.
I'm hoping once the phone becomes available in more markets (international release/ROM),we'll begin to see some hint of what the future holds.
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No apologies needed,make yourself at home @maikonor ........... :good:
While I can't speak regarding Whatsapp,you can get timely notifications for email/other SMS/MMS messaging apps,but,a lot of digging around in the settings is involved. Nothing beyond most users expertise,it's just a lot of redundancy & repitition,but,once set-up,my notifications come through just fine.
As for development,it's not unheard of on Oppo devices,but,is it possible with this phone ? IDK if the current firmware/software will support it.
If the promise of root/ROMs is a must,it's probably gonna be a while before development takes grip,if it ever does.
I'm hoping once the phone becomes available in more markets (international release/ROM),we'll begin to see some hint of what the future holds.
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thanks for your reply, root/custom ROM is not a must for me if, I (in the netherlands) at least can change my home launcher.
Hey buddy, This is my second OPPO variant. From my previous experience on R11P, it was pretty nasty. Nothing was released from OPPO to support unlocking or Root the device. However, with Find X, OPPO has launched globally. It might change its perspectives regarding playing around with the systems. who knows. I hope they do, I love flashing ROMs, lolz!
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Hey buddy, This is my second OPPO variant. From my previous experience on R11P, it was pretty nasty. Nothing was released from OPPO to support unlocking or Root the device. However, with Find X, OPPO has launched globally. It might change its perspectives regarding playing around with the systems. who knows. I hope they do, I love flashing ROMs, lolz!
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Thanks for your reply, I hope they do change perspective and otherwise I will buy an oneplus 6.
The Find 7 was unlocked and they provided a rudimentary support for unlocking and rooting, this is the last vairiant that I'm aware of that saw wide release. Realistically that's all we need to obtain root, which is pretty easy via magisk. The Chinese launcher restrictions wont exist on the international handsets, those are for the Chinese market only and you'll be able to use the phone pretty much as normal in the Android world. It's all about whether or not the bootloader is unlocked. If yes we should be able to get root ourselves without special skills. From there it's just a matter of whether anyone with skills decides to pick up the phone and develop for it and then you've got TWRP and possibly a rom or two to play with.
I hope Oppo could release international version of the Find X rom
The chinese rom is pretty much unusable in North America
If it's like OPPO's other phones from the last few years, it will have a locked bootloader with fastboot removed and they won't release any kernel source.
Chinese OPPO fans tell you，It is very hard to request a root access or source code from OPPO，or just wait a loooong time:crying:，OPPO has always been like this，and sorry about my bad English，i want say more but i do not known how to
Explain in eglish(+_+)
Hard to do in China, there are rules there prohibiting that very thing and even when those don't apply Chinese companies are rightfully afraid to do something their dictator doesn't want because their executives would like to remain among the living. Chinese leaders are pragmatists however who enjoy the riches they deny the masses which means their products need to sell on a global market so they can keep enjoying all the things their populace is denied. The last product Oppo released in the world market was bootloader unlocked and they provided support for rooting. This does not mean the same will happen now but have no doubt they are well aware that their practices with Chinese phones will kill any hope at all of selling in the international market. Something to think about; One+ is owned by Oppo. They are unlocked and fully supported.
Yesterday I unlocked my poco x2 and installed miui EU rom but it was buggy so flashed stock India rom and I accidentally locked it back.
I went on to re-unlock the device and the unlocker said you can't unlock anymore devices this moth, even though it's the same device, rom, mi account but it treats it as different device.
poco very much like to call themselves developer friendly but they aren't. they are pretty much like apple and in this case, they make sure to add small hurdles in your way so you can't tinker much with your device.
these are some of the examples
1. developer mode is harder to unlock. takes 3-4 sec of continuous tapping instead of 3-4 taps on stock rom.
2.initial unlock restrictions of many days.
3.locked EDL mode
and now
4.can't reunlock in same month? Wtf?
they can very much call it "security" measures.
but all this makes me feel that I don't really own the device and borrowed it from the company.
I have so many xiaomi devices in the house, personally used 4 before
was really loyal fan but now I think it's time to switch
lets see if they reply back
https://twitter.com/omkarpatil29/status/1248926429875597312
True you are friend.
I think there's no security thingy since its bootloader is unlockable.
Xiaomi is doing just annoying things.
My next phone will be oneplus.
Edit : Yeah I meant unlock wait time. It's meaningless at all. Xiaomi should change it to oneplus' way.
Buy a phone and unlock it on that day.
Martensite said:
I think there's no security thingy since its bootloader is unlockable.
Xiaomi is doing just annoying things.
My next phone will be oneplus.
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I'm not sure but for the "waiting period thing" they gave the reason of security in past.
I have so many xiaomi devices in the house, personally had 4.
was really loyal fan but now I also think it's time to switch
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Yesterday I unlocked my poco x2 and installed miui EU rom but it was buggy so flashed stock India rom and I accidentally locked it back.
I went on to re-unlock the device and the unlocker said you can't unlock anymore devices this moth, even though it's the same device, rom, mi account but it treats it as different device.
poco very much like to call themselves developer friendly but they aren't. they are pretty much like apple and in this case, they make sure to add small hurdles in your way so you can't tinker much with your device.
these are some of the examples
1. developer mode is harder to unlock. takes 3-4 sec of continuous tapping instead of 3-4 taps on stock rom.
2.initial unlock restrictions of many days.
3.locked EDL mode
and now
4.can't reunlock in same month? Wtf?
they can very much call it "security" measures.
but all this makes me feel that I don't really own the device and borrowed it from the company.
I have so many xiaomi devices in the house, personally used 4 before
was really loyal fan but now I think it's time to switch
lets see if they reply back
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I don't know which EU rom you downloaded. But mine is working great. I am using the one for K30 (20.3.26)
Just switch the phone.!! Go ahead..!!.
Devs-friendly does not mean it is easy for stupid people. Change quickly. Before it became hard-brick because of your idiot.
Not developer-friendly, true. But it's kind of your fault for locking the bootloader while flashing the stock rom. This phone is very frustrating to get around unless you know how to do things.
1. Developer mode unlock method is same as AOSP in miui, nothing different there.I think you somehow remember enabling usb debugging option which has 3,4 seconds of 3 popup screens to enable and i find it useful because so many people in android community just edit the stuff they shouldnt even play with, resulting in having problems, they just tell the problems and list what could happen in that 3 popup screens.
2. Initial unlock thing have some sense in it, let me explain.I am living in turkey and xiaomi as official seller just start selling here since like 2 years ago, before that there was no official seller.(still we prefer resellers because of price difference) So what happended ? We had to buy from random people who import phones from china directly, which buy them from another random sellers in china.and guess what in this process they used to add random modified miui versions(not talking about miui eu) which resulted in security issues, hijacking bank accounts etc or not getting any updates at all ! so by adding this waiting time they force the first seller to keep 2 weeks minimum to unlock it to add custom rom, which they dont, resulted in mostly unmodified devices and guess what most user base of xiaomi are not developers or ROM swappers, there are people who just buy the damn device to use it which dont even know what bootloader is.They prefer a secure,unmodified device which gets updates on time.This waiting time served its purpose.Yeah i can agree its implementation method should be better,like same wait time for all devices not random but thats another discussion.
3. Locked EDL mode,yes you are right.I used oneplus devices before and they are better in developer friendly manners, but this doesnt mean xiaomi is not.in comparison to other android brands, in my opinion first company is oneplus then xiaomi.
4. See there is the problem here, dont get me wrong but if you did know what you are doing or messing with after using 4 xiaomi devices you would and should be able to uncheck the right down cleand all box on miflash tool and becareful when using it.If as a flashy user after 4 device you still can accidently lock the bootloader, you shouldnt be messing with device,the waiting time will be a lesson for you to learn more and never do the same mistake again and be careful next time.
I can understand that waiting is a little boring etc, but keep in mind in a community where huawei after that many years locked bootloader of their devices permanantly(except unofficial ways) you cant open bootloader,or samsung disabling knox and etc, you should praise a brand when it serves you good devices with less price with ability to use custom roms,camera2api etc.
By the way in comparison to oneplus,xiaomi is much bigger company and community of users in oneplus are mostly android geeks who knew what cyanogenmod was,there are even people who didnt hear oneplus name even once in their life, but xiaomi is more general purpose brand who is way more popular among normal smartphone users, so they serve 2 different community in my opinion,with less users base in common in general.
Feel free to swap to any other brand if you are this much unhappy
kushal.purkar said:
I don't know which EU rom you downloaded. But mine is working great. I am using the one for K30 (20.3.26)
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yes same version. pubg crashes constatantly in game and saw some battery drain while idle even after factory reset same issues were observed so i flashed stock.
reza6d said:
1. Developer mode unlock method is same as AOSP in miui, nothing different there.I think you somehow remember enabling usb debugging option which has 3,4 seconds of 3 popup screens to enable and i find it useful because so many people in android community just edit the stuff they shouldnt even play with, resulting in having problems, they just tell the problems and list what could happen in that 3 popup screens.
2. Initial unlock thing have some sense in it, let me explain.I am living in turkey and xiaomi as official seller just start selling here since like 2 years ago, before that there was no official seller.(still we prefer resellers because of price difference) So what happended ? We had to buy from random people who import phones from china directly, which buy them from another random sellers in china.and guess what in this process they used to add random modified miui versions(not talking about miui eu) which resulted in security issues, hijacking bank accounts etc or not getting any updates at all ! so by adding this waiting time they force the first seller to keep 2 weeks minimum to unlock it to add custom rom, which they dont, resulted in mostly unmodified devices and guess what most user base of xiaomi are not developers or ROM swappers, there are people who just buy the damn device to use it which dont even know what bootloader is.They prefer a secure,unmodified device which gets updates on time.This waiting time served its purpose.Yeah i can agree its implementation method should be better,like same wait time for all devices not random but thats another discussion.
3. Locked EDL mode,yes you are right.I used oneplus devices before and they are better in developer friendly manners, but this doesnt mean xiaomi is not.in comparison to other android brands, in my opinion first company is oneplus then xiaomi.
4. See there is the problem here, dont get me wrong but if you did know what you are doing or messing with after using 4 xiaomi devices you would and should be able to uncheck the right down cleand all box on miflash tool and becareful when using it.If as a flashy user after 4 device you still can accidently lock the bootloader, you shouldnt be messing with device,the waiting time will be a lesson for you to learn more and never do the same mistake again and be careful next time.
I can understand that waiting is a little boring etc, but keep in mind in a community where huawei after that many years locked bootloader of their devices permanantly(except unofficial ways) you cant open bootloader,or samsung disabling knox and etc, you should praise a brand when it serves you good devices with less price with ability to use custom roms,camera2api etc.
By the way in comparison to oneplus,xiaomi is much bigger company and community of users in oneplus are mostly android geeks who knew what cyanogenmod was,there are even people who didnt hear oneplus name even once in their life, but xiaomi is more general purpose brand who is way more popular among normal smartphone users, so they serve 2 different community in my opinion,with less users base in common in general.
Feel free to swap to any other brand if you are this much unhappy
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I just wanted to quick flash my device because I was in hurry. I'm a MIUI hater but still a MI fan. haven't used mi flash for so long that i forgot about it. Yes, it was my mistake. but I’m talking same device, same mi account and same rom here. when you have such a big user and device database these things not supposed to happen. I do get, why they do the stuff they do but all that togather builds up in so much frustration for someone who does a lot of tinkering with their device everyday. this is not good thing for a company that calls itself developer friendly.
this is not about security my friend they just don't want people to leave miui
Definitely they are developer friendly. They send phone to talent devs. The thread say it all. Your not a dev. xiaomi dont say they are "flasholic friendly". Obviously you made a mistake and you called it "accidental" and blame xiaomi.
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Definitely they are developer friendly. They send phone to talent devs. The thread say it all. Your not a dev. xiaomi dont say they are "flasholic friendly". Obviously you made a mistake and you called it "accidental" and blame xiaomi.
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Hel yeh..!! The guy got serious problem with 7 times tap the screen said he wanna play with EDL mode =]]
okaraosp29 said:
I just wanted to quick flash my device because I was in hurry. I'm a MIUI hater but still a MI fan. haven't used mi flash for so long that i forgot about it. Yes, it was my mistake. but I’m talking same device, same mi account and same rom here. when you have such a big user and device database these things not supposed to happen. I do get, why they do the stuff they do but all that togather builds up in so much frustration for someone who does a lot of tinkering with their device everyday. this is not good thing for a company that calls itself developer friendly.
this is not about security my friend they just don't want people to leave miui
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I think the term you are looking for is 'User-friendly" not "Developer friendly", because someone who is experienced enough or even used MiFlash once or twice will know how MiFlash always reverts to clean all and lock. There is no need to be angry over all this, you made a mistake, now you have to wait. That's it. :good:
Ins3ne33 said:
I think the term you are looking for is 'User-friendly" not "Developer friendly", because someone who is experienced enough or even used MiFlash once or twice will know how MiFlash always reverts to clean all and lock. There is no need to be angry over all this, you made a mistake, now you have to wait. That's it. :good:
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keyword "hurry"
https://github.com/OnePlusOSS/android_kernel_oneplus_sm8475
https://github.com/OnePlusOSS/android_kernel_modules_and_devicetree_oneplus_sm8475
Here's hoping they keep it updated if/when they make future changes.
Does this mean the roms would soon start flowing?
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Does this means the roms would soon start flowing?
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OnePlus 10T is a success among the gaming community, hope development begins soon. Very Positive move by OnePlus.
Surprise from OnePlus... good news!
gonetask said:
OnePlus 10T is a success among the gaming community, hope development begins soon. Very Positive move by OnePlus.
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Hey you quoted me but didn't type anything on #3.
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Does this mean the roms would soon start flowing?
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Not without an easy way to recover from a brick.
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Not without an easy way to recover from a brick.
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Is this regarding the msm tool?
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Is this regarding the msm tool?
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Yep. Without it, it's too risky. I never managed to brick a device going all the way back to 2009 with the HTC Hero and I've bricked my 9 at least 5 times to where the MSM Tool was the only option (this despite following posted instructions, two of those bricks happened while doing the exact same operations I did in fastboot that worked before!).
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Yep. Without it, it's too risky. I never managed to brick a device going all the way back to 2009 with the HTC Hero and I've bricked my 9 at least 5 times to where the MSM Tool was the only option (this despite following posted instructions, two of those bricks happened while doing the exact same operations I did in fastboot that worked before!).
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So is the tool accessible for all? I'm currently using a redmi Note 10 pro max. Waiting to upgrade to a good flagship phone with cat20 4g modem and at least a good 5g modem. The only drawback is this doesn't have mmWave. I hope more phones are slapped with an mmWave modem in the future.
So I read that some don't have access to this tool. If I soft brick the redmi, I can always flash a raw fastboot rom and I get back the device, although mostly I've gotta format the internal storage, as this happened recently. Fortunately I have a 512gb micro SD card, and since the 10t lacks expandable storage, I'm gonna miss the SD card. I guess sacrifices have to be made.
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So is the tool accessible for all? I'm currently using a redmi Note 10 pro max. Waiting to upgrade to a good flagship phone with cat20 4g modem and at least a good 5g modem. The only drawback is this doesn't have mmWave. I hope more phones are slapped with an mmWave modem in the future.
So I read that some don't have access to this tool. If I soft brick the redmi, I can always flash a raw fastboot rom and I get back the device, although mostly I've gotta format the internal storage, as this happened recently. Fortunately I have a 512gb micro SD card, and since the 10t lacks expandable storage, I'm gonna miss the SD card. I guess sacrifices have to be made.
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So it seems that OnePlus is now using VIP signing with EDL mode like Oppo does. That presumably means the death of EDL recovery like it did for Oppo when they implemented it. The 9 series may well be the last Qualcomm devices able to use the MSM Tool without a technician logging in or someone capturing the login and using it to flash others. The latter has happened with the 10 Pro but people are charging for the service.
The MSM Tool is for when the phone is so messed up that fastboot isn't an option otherwise you can just get a full OTA and flash it with Fastboot Enhance and do a quick wipe to get back to a working phone.
Grovez said:
https://github.com/OnePlusOSS/android_kernel_oneplus_sm8475
https://github.com/OnePlusOSS/android_kernel_modules_and_devicetree_oneplus_sm8475
I wanted to write something snarky about the delay, but I'm just relieved that it's finally out.
Here's hoping they keep it updated if/when they make future changes.
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Good. I can probably do something with this.
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Does this mean the roms would soon start flowing?
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The 10 Pro still doesn't have any custom ROMs, but we'll see. Maybe with the 10T, things will be different...
andr01dfr3ak said:
Good. I can probably do something with this.
The 10 Pro still doesn't have any custom ROMs, but we'll see. Maybe with the 10T, things will be different...
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I would be forever grateful if you take the first steps towards getting LineageOS for OnePlus 10T (or the cornerstones that may lead to it).. i love the specs but just can't get used to the Oppo ColorOS flavor of OxygenOS in recent devices (after they sort of merged), besides all of the security, transparency, anti-bloat and performance benefits that LineageOS brings to the table.
I found myself in a dilemma, at the same time being a power user (wanting a level of control that only such a ROM provides) and looking for an upgrade after 4 years on my 6T. Not being able to resist buying the latest and greatest with a new chipset (10T) in place of going for an older model with a well-established development scene.
Right now, i hope the ideal circumstances are present to get the speediest development after a release, like: they were on point with releasing kernel sources, and made an attempt to return to flagship killer roots with the 10T, after years.. maybe they are also attempting to restore the original values from the flagship killer period (being known as a ROM community-friendly brand) as they realize how it benefits customer loyalty and sales. So, the quick kernel release can be a sign of that, and i hope it extends to MSM tool release soon
Btw, how about crowdfunding some 10T's for known developers? I saw such initiatives lately for 10 Pro, during a week there was a start in development activity for it
I'm here for the 10T crowdfunding for devs idea. I just got a 10T. Coming from a 5T and most recently the 7TP5GMclaren, the 10T desperately needs help. This fake oxygenOS hybrid is not the business
My hope Is that a Dev can make a custom kernel to lower the brightness as the minimum brightness is way too high currently. I might have to figure out how to compile the kernel myself if this starts bugging me too much.
Is the OnePlus 10t good enough for custom roms in the future? Currently have the phone 1 but the haptics are soo bad, like skips while typing, am planning to return it (just got it yesterday so still in the return period)
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Is the OnePlus 10t good enough for custom roms in the future? Currently have the phone 1 but the haptics are soo bad, like skips while typing, am planning to return it (just got it yesterday so still in the return period)
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Custom Development depends on testing device in the process device might get brick. Oppo has complete control over 1+ in terms of flash tool now requires auth, chances are getting low if 1+ releases MSM for free then yes but its Oppo
Guys i read somewhere that the oneplus 10t bootloader cannot be unlocked anymore...is this true ?
drishal said:
Guys i read somewhere that the oneplus 10t bootloader cannot be unlocked anymore...is this true ?
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You can unlock it, it's just really unsafe. Easy to boot loop.
@andr01dfr3ak have you given it further thought?
Sidenote: im frequently checking this topic.. really hoping some dev saves us from ColorOS hell. It's a shame for a device with this specs to have such a bad ROM and UI, software is the only reason i regret buying it.