video playback with mx player is quiet jittery and lots of frame drops. this happens with mkv x265 1080p Files using hw and hw+ mode. sw mode works better but drains battery. is this a one ui 4.1 issue or mx player issue.? any way to fix this? which video player would you recommend?
Paul5966 said:
Same issue here and I can't find any methods.
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well.. I found the issue.. it's the 120hz adaptive refresh rate.. when watching videos, when the refresh rates goes to 24hz the stuttering begins and when at 120hz it's smooth. so the solution is switch to standard refresh rate of 60hz. then the Video playback is smooth. also there is minimal heating and longer battery life. it's not a video player issue, tried all players even the Samsung default one.
hope samsung fixes the adaptive refresh rate stutter. no point using such an expensive device at 60hz.
Agreed. 120 HZ or higher then 60 looks great on S22+, but ocasional skipping is annoying, just too preserve battery life. Samsung should give us an option to FIX 120 HZ or at least too choose between Fixed one and non fixed refres rate.
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Hi! I'm trying to find a way to play 720p videos smoothly on my Tablet S but I can't find a proper bitrate for it. I tried 4000 but it's still laggy. On some tutorials I found they were saying to use 1500 as bitrate but that is ridiculous. A 720p video with bitrate 1500 will result in a lot of dead pixels. So what can I do?
I'm using Format Factory to convert the MKV videos to MP4 H.264/AVC 720p
Help please :crying:
Sorry bad english
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Hi! I'm trying to find a way to play 720p videos smoothly on my Tablet S but I can't find a proper bitrate for it. I tried 4000 but it's still laggy. On some tutorials I found they were saying to use 1500 as bitrate but that is ridiculous. A 720p video with bitrate 1500 will result in a lot of dead pixels. So what can I do? I'm using Format Factory to convert the MKV videos to MP4 H.264/AVC 720p Help please :crying: Sorry bad english
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The best video format for the Sony Tablet S is MPEG-4 (mp4) encoded using a H.264 CODEC with a pixel size of 1280 x 720, a bit rate of 1500 kbps, and a frame rate of 29.97 fps. The video's audio should be stereo AAC with a sample rate of 44100 Hz and a bit rate of 96000 bps. I use and recommend Handbrake for converting videos and MX Player Pro for playing videos.
RulezMac said:
Hi! I'm trying to find a way to play 720p videos smoothly on my Tablet S but I can't find a proper bitrate for it. I tried 4000 but it's still laggy. On some tutorials I found they were saying to use 1500 as bitrate but that is ridiculous. A 720p video with bitrate 1500 will result in a lot of dead pixels. So what can I do?
I'm using Format Factory to convert the MKV videos to MP4 H.264/AVC 720p
Help please :crying:
Sorry bad english
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Actually you can just download Dice Player or BS Player Lite. This two video player can play any mkv files I load into it. even upto 1080p :laugh: :good:
1080p are terribly laggy
RulezMac said:
1080p are terribly laggy
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But still you can now play your 720p vids w/o converting them :good:
karl_angel0 said:
But still you can now play your 720p vids w/o converting them :good:
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Ok I tried some 720p MKV files and the sound isn't synchronized with the video. Also I still noticed some lag.
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Ok I tried some 720p MKV files and the sound isn't synchronized with the video. Also I still noticed some lag.
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Try QQPlayer. I had a lot of problems with video playing slower than audio when using Dice and MX, but QQ seemed to clear them up. Other than that, try using a video converter (such as Handbrake) and use the Apple TV preset. Works for me.
I'm also disappointed by the Tegra 2 performance in video. Here are some thoughts and questions.
From my personal tries, all video players (MX, BSPlayer, Dice) have about the same performance (perhaps BSPlayer with ARMv7 plugin is a little better). Does every video player Tegra 2 video playback implementation are based on the same library?
Is there some way to make some low-level (asm) optimization that would help? I would gladly take a look if there was a way to do it.
I've noticed that even 720P High profile have some lag! Not very serious, but noticeable!! For example, Rise of the Silver Surfer 720P-HP trailer (see h264info.com/clips.html) lags at several points in the video. It may be clearly seen with BSPlayer, when displaying FPS information ('(i)' button during video playback).
1080P Baseline Profile seems to play smoothly (and H/W acceleration is enabled).
Video players disables H/W acceleration for High Profile 1080P so, of course it is terribly laggy. Is it a technical requirement? Isn't there a way to force H/W acceleration for Full HD High profile videos, even if that wouldn't mean full speed?
720p mkv that need software decoding lag (doesn't play in default player). Mx player seems to stop for few frames then jump forward and then play normally. In Vplayer video slows for a bit then seem to go faster then normal and then slower - repeat.
This is bad...
Trno said:
720p mkv that need software decoding lag (doesn't play in default player). Mx player seems to stop for few frames then jump forward and then play normally. In Vplayer video slows for a bit then seem to go faster then normal and then slower - repeat.
This is bad...
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Just curious: do you have any other tablets to compare performance on?
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Just curious: do you have any other tablets to compare performance on?
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No , my previous wouldnt run it at watchable rate. This can be watched but annoying
I have 720 4 gb mkv files and 10 gig 1080 p mkvs on my tablet all play smooth without any lag what so ever all play in vlc and mk player.
Must be a problem with your tablet or settings
ash6783 said:
I have 720 4 gb mkv files and 10 gig 1080 p mkvs on my tablet all play smooth without any lag what so ever all play in vlc and mk player.
Must be a problem with your tablet or settings
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10 bit ?
Trno said:
720p mkv that need software decoding lag (doesn't play in default player). Mx player seems to stop for few frames then jump forward and then play normally. In Vplayer video slows for a bit then seem to go faster then normal and then slower - repeat.
This is bad...
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Are the videos on an external SD card? If its a slow card, this may cause your lag. Make sure you have a class 10 sd card for these high bit rate files.
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app
I have a class 4 and works fine a snooth as my blu ray player
its on internal
1815Kbps 23.976 fps AVC High [email protected] CABAC ,9 ref frames
Trno said:
720p mkv that need software decoding lag (doesn't play in default player). Mx player seems to stop for few frames then jump forward and then play normally. In Vplayer video slows for a bit then seem to go faster then normal and then slower - repeat.
This is bad...
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Try VLC Media Player !!
I've found that default player is laggy for mkv movies at 1080p. I tried poweramp (which I think is one of the best players) and I couldn't get the video to show up.
Then, I tried the VLC beta app, and like on my desktop is the best player for mkv files. No lag at all on a 1080p movie. Btw on a 90 minutes movie battery only ~20%
Enviado desde mi SGP312 usando Tapatalk 2
xperiax10.awesome said:
Try VLC Media Player !!
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Did , VLC vomited and stoped working after attempting to open.
But i did some digging and i learned that the issue is with 10 bit color coding. Hardware codec only works with 8 bit and so 10 bit needs to gets processed by software putting all load on cpu. Its easily confirmed by running 1080p 10bit that starts losing sound due to the load.
However 720p @10 doesn't lack much to be smooth so i think with oc it would go fine. But first i went searching for alternative to MX player.
Bs player got option to skip frames when behind and it smooths out video but audio goes out of sync after a while. After some more dead ends i found someone suggesting Archos player. And it works :victory: . I can't see any lag on my test sample anymore , another file also worked fine.
Guess im saved :]
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Did , VLC vomited and stoped working after attempting to open.
But i did some digging and i learned that the issue is with 10 bit color coding. Hardware codec only works with 8 bit and so 10 bit needs to gets processed by software putting all load on cpu. Its easily confirmed by running 1080p 10bit that starts losing sound due to the load.
However 720p @10 doesn't lack much to be smooth so i think with oc it would go fine. But first i went searching for alternative to MX player.
Bs player got option to skip frames when behind and it smooths out video but audio goes out of sync after a while. After some more dead ends i found someone suggesting Archos player. And it works :victory: . I can't see any lag on my test sample anymore , another file also worked fine.
Guess im saved :]
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I use BSPlayer on my Samsung S2 and I think it's the fastest out there. Can you try it?
EDIT: oops... you have already tried it...
Use bs player or the archos video player plus the free codec pack.
I found MX player struggled with some of the MKvs I had until I turned on hardware Decoding. Everything's been fine since then.
TBH it's a shame the Movies app doesn't have all the audio codecs or gestures as it's quite a nice interface and can see all my XBMC uPNP content.
I have a Asus tf700. It has a 1080p rez. like this Z. I bought it used from amazon for $300 but I'm returning it because video skips and It only gets 2 hr.s of battery life after viewing my mpeg2 1080i video. All my shows are mpeg2 since thats the way come off my Tivo. When I look at battery use in settings I see about %70 is my mxvido player. I'ts the only player I know that will play my mpeg2 shows. The next big usage is screen at about %20. This is with outdoor viewing so screen was bright. Can anyone tell me how many hours of mpeg2 1080i video playback you get? Id like to consider this sony if it can do better. Or wait for the The new Asus Memo Pad FHD 10 inch 1080p tablet. I dont game.
Already tried other video players like BS Player, Dice Player, MX Player, Archos Video??
It's very dependent on the decoder (and the kind of hardware acceleration) how battery-consuming and CPU-/GPU-intensive playing movies is.
I admit that I often are quite unnerved by people who rate devices by the pre-installed software. It's normal that the pre-installed apps don't cut it and that only with 3rd party apps a device can shine.
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Already tried other video players like BS Player, Dice Player, MX Player, Archos Video??
It's very dependent on the decoder (and the kind of hardware acceleration) how battery-consuming and CPU-/GPU-intensive playing movies is.
I admit that I often are quite unnerved by people who rate devices by the pre-installed software. It's normal that the pre-installed apps don't cut it and that only with 3rd party apps a device can shine.
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Dice player refuses to play. BS, like MX player will both work but only with software decoding and framerate is choppy and both kill my battery in 2 hrs. I installed Arcos player but says it needs $5 dollars for mpeg2 codec to playback the ac3 audio on my mpeg2. Does the sony z tablet's naive player playback 1080i mpeg2 videos? How many hrs. does it get? Does it use hardaware acceleration as no players seem to achieve this using my asus tf 700
No, you can download "Archos Video All Codecs" plugin for free in the play store, then the Archos player can play all formats!
Nor MPEG2 nor AC3 can be decoded in hardware by Snapdragons. You're out of luck here. On a modern format (H264 with AAC audio) you'd get much improved video playback times, smoothness, quality and compression.
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i have a bunch of hdr 4k hevc 10bit 60fps demos for the tv .. i tried them on the pocophone internal media player (software miui version 9) and these demos played flawless with correct colors
i found an update for miui 10 .. so i updated and i wish i didnt .. now the hevc files are stuttering and has washed out colors
i installed 8.11.15 beta rom today and that fixed youtube hdr color issue but still hevc files played at internal media player stuttering
these files plays flawlessly on note 8 and xz2 which is sd 835 ???!!!!!
so any hints ?!!!! i also tried multiple 3rd party apps like vlc and mx player and they showed correct colors but they are stuttering
so any hints here ?! can i return to miui 9 without unlocking boot loader ?!!
do anyone have explaination for the stuttering on such strong cpu and gpu ?!
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i have a bunch of hdr 4k hevc 10bit 60fps demos for the tv .. i tried them on the pocophone internal media player (software miui version 9) and these demos played flawless with correct colors
i found an update for miui 10 .. so i updated and i wish i didnt .. now the hevc files are stuttering and has washed out colors
i installed 8.11.15 beta rom today and that fixed youtube hdr color issue but still hevc files played at internal media player stuttering
these files plays flawlessly on note 8 and xz2 which is sd 835 ???!!!!!
so any hints ?!!!! i also tried multiple 3rd party apps like vlc and mx player and they showed correct colors but they are stuttering
so any hints here ?! can i return to miui 9 without unlocking boot loader ?!!
do anyone have explaination for the stuttering on such strong cpu and gpu ?!
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YouTube 4k 60fps hdr videos play nice on 1080p .
If u can link where 4k60fpshdr videos can be downloaded I can test. Small videos please
I am on 8.11.27 presently so can test if it has been fixed after 8.11.15
sanjay0501 said:
YouTube 4k 60fps hdr videos play nice on 1080p .
If u can link where 4k60fpshdr videos can be downloaded I can test. Small videos please
I am on 8.11.27 presently so can test if it has been fixed after 8.11.15
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thanks sanjay
here is the demo
https://4kmedia.org/the-world-in-hdr-uhd-4k-demo/
please try it on file manager player and on mi video player
using the file manager media player the file plays well with minimal stutter at 8.11.15 but washed out colors .. before on miui 9 it worked flawlessly with correct colors
mi videos on the other hand play the video with correct colors but it feels like the file is played at 30 fps with lots of stutters not 60 fps
you can always compare this file to the hdr youtube video with the same name
there is larger files and bigger bit rates and they should work flawlessly but this file is the smallest in size
@mustafa811
Played the file in diff players
1. File manager played with washed out colours
2. MiVideo, photos, xplore video player and vlc all played the file with correct colours, not sure about the stutter though , video looked quite smooth.
Can't take screenshots or screenrecords of hdr videos so cant post anything.
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Played the file in diff players
1. File manager played with washed out colours
2. MiVideo, photos, xplore video player and vlc all played the file with correct colours, not sure about the stutter though , video looked quite smooth.
Can't take screenshots or screenrecords of hdr videos so cant post anything.
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yeah the stutter needs sharp eyes .. you can notice it in panning sequences like the one with the boats .. anyway thanks sanjay for the trial .. and wish they could fix it soon
MiUi 10.0.6.0
No dropped frames or washed out colours on mx player
Some dropped frames on mi videos app.
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MiUi 10.0.6.0
No dropped frames or washed out colours on mx player
Some dropped frames on mi videos app.
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there is definitely some dropped frames on mx player too lockhrt but since it is 60 fps many ppl will not notice if frame dropped to 30 as it is still watchable
just compare the smoothness of the video on file manager media player vs mx player and you will spot that there is lots of frames dropped
you can try this one .. you will see the cars at 1st driving smoothly at the file manager player in comparison to mx
https://4kmedia.org/sony-camping-in-nature-4k-demo/
also it is quite evident in this video at the 1st in the 1st 10 seconds where the dots splash just try it on both player to spot the difference ) file manager and mx player
https://4kmedia.org/ultra-hd-hdr-4k-demo-by-samsung-introducing-quantum-dot-display/
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there is definitely some dropped frames on mx player too lockhrt but since it is 60 fps many ppl will not notice if frame dropped to 30 as it is still watchable
just compare the smoothness of the video on file manager media player vs mx player and you will spot that there is lots of frames dropped
you can try this one .. you will see the cars at 1st driving smoothly at the file manager player in comparison to mx
https://4kmedia.org/sony-camping-in-nature-4k-demo/
also it is quite evident in this video at the 1st in the 1st 10 seconds where the dots splash just try it on both player to spot the difference ) file manager and mx player
https://4kmedia.org/ultra-hd-hdr-4k-demo-by-samsung-introducing-quantum-dot-display/
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I'll try new videos when I get home. I played the first clip. It's definitely 60fps in MX player, the smoothness is unmistakable. I tried in SW mode and it played very slowly with washed out colours.
Tried es file manager media player, it played at 60fps without washed out colours
Tried file manager player, it played at 60fps with washed out colours.
Are you sure you are using HW+ mode in MX and your phone isn't in power saver mode?
Playing a 60fps video at 30fps is actually difficult for phones as it may ask for more computing power. In case phone can't keep up with the 60fps video, we get dropped frames.
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I'll try new videos when I get home. I played the first clip. It's definitely 60fps in MX player, the smoothness is unmistakable. I tried in SW mode and it played very slowly with washed out colours.
Tried es file manager media player, it played at 60fps without washed out colours
Tried file manager player, it played at 60fps with washed out colours.
Are you sure you are using HW+ mode in MX and your phone isn't in power saver mode?
Playing a 60fps video at 30fps is actually difficult for phones as it may ask for more computing power. In case phone can't keep up with the 60fps video, we get dropped frames.
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well thanks lockhry you participation is hugely appreciated .. i am on 8.11.15 right now and i am not using battery saver (it is not marked)
i defintely have dropped frames on mx player and it is using the hw codec .. the hw codec+ has much more dropped frames
i thought i almost tried all the 3rd party media players but i never thought if es file manager could have its own player
the es player is excellent it has a few dropped frames every while other than that it plays in 60 fps .. it is the best player right now that can play hevc files with minimal stuttering and correct colors
i am waiting for the alleged 8.11.29 update .. on 8.11.15 touch is a bit better than miui 10.0.6.0 but youtube hdr is not wotking correctly .. i eish there is a firmware that could address touch issues ,youtube hdr and hevc file playback
but i think now after trying lots official roms and updates there is a hardware problem with the touch and it is non fixable whatever they do .. writing with keyboard is not flawless as other phones
i use tempered glass i am thinking of removing it as a last resort
thanks again lockhrt for your contribution
Got the tab s6 yesterday and having an issue while using YouTube. When playing the video at low res 360p or lower the right side of the video has a lot of judder as if the refresh rate is not syncing up. Happens when rotating to landscape. It only does that in the video itself, not on any other part of the screen. Watching same quality video using a different app, MX player, does not produce the same effect. Just wondering if it's the YouTube app or the tablet itself. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ended up exchanging the unit at BB. Same thing is happening. To reproduce is you have to have all the animations turned off in the dev options. Although it went away after I enabled msaa 4x and force gpu rendering turned on. So if you have animations off it'll give you a stuffer effect on one side of the screen.
That is not my case, i use YouTube Vanced! No ads, HD and 1440 video playing. Uploading a test video.