Hey can anyone help my new vivo fold x chinese phone won't let me send or receive pics or use sms beyond simple text to one person. Can this be fixed or am I out of luck. The phone won't work on 5g like I thought it would in Arizona but does work on 4g.
Are you using the stock Vivo Messaging app that is preinstalled on the Origin Ocean OS operating system, or did you install a third party messaging app like Google Messages? If it is a third party app you need to go into Settings/Permissions scroll down to the app and enable "send MMS". Your carrier will set a limit on the size of MMS texts (usually between 300kb and 1mb) and if you are trying to send a picture larger than that you may have an issue. The stock messaging app will automatically downsize your images before sending them, but for some reason Google Messages (which is the stock app on most other phones) doesn't seem to know to downsize images on this firmware and consequently your MMS will just hang with "sending". I am using Next SMS to replace the stock app and it allows me to send MMS and even set the limit for resizing. I experimented with sending images of different sizes until I hit 1mb, after which they won't send, but with the 1mb limit set it downsizes the images and sends them without a problem. My 5g worked as soon as I toggled on the 'Enable 5g' switch on in Settings/Mobile Networks/Sim 1. My issue is that I don't have any settings to toggle VoLTE on, which I will need as they are shutting down the 3G networks. Without VoLTE even when the phone displays 4G, 4G+, or 5G, it drops to 3G or HSPA when it connects calls.
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Are you using the stock Vivo Messaging app that is preinstalled on the Origin Ocean OS operating system, or did you install a third party messaging app like Google Messages? If it is a third party app you need to go into Settings/Permissions scroll down to the app and enable "send MMS". Your carrier will set a limit on the size of MMS texts (usually between 300kb and 1mb) and if you are trying to send a picture larger than that you may have an issue. The stock messaging app will automatically downsize your images before sending them, but for some reason Google Messages (which is the stock app on most other phones) doesn't seem to know to downsize images on this firmware and consequently your MMS will just hang with "sending". I am using Next SMS to replace the stock app and it allows me to send MMS and even set the limit for resizing. I experimented with sending images of different sizes until I hit 1mb, after which they won't send, but with the 1mb limit set it downsizes the images and sends them without a problem. My 5g worked as soon as I toggled on the 'Enable 5g' switch on in Settings/Mobile Networks/Sim 1. My issue is that I don't have any settings to toggle VoLTE on, which I will need as they are shutting down the 3G networks. Without VoLTE even when the phone displays 4G, 4G+, or 5G, it drops to 3G or HSPA when it connects calls.
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No luck sadly, toggling 5g on and off still stays on 4g. I tried other messaging apps and set the mms size lower and that still did not help on several apps. And like you I lose mobile data when making a call as it drops 4g to 3g or 2g or nothing. Sadly I regret buying this phone and can't return it, I will try and ask for a return. So on a side note if you know anyone who wants this phone I will sell it at a reduced rate to recoup some of my money. Lol let me know. Or I can throw it up on ebay I guess but it is not for me, too many issues and I am very disappointed and frustrated.
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No luck sadly, toggling 5g on and off still stays on 4g. I tried other messaging apps and set the mms size lower and that still did not help on several apps. And like you I lose mobile data when making a call as it drops 4g to 3g or 2g or nothing. Sadly I regret buying this phone and can't return it, I will try and ask for a return. So on a side note if you know anyone who wants this phone I will sell it at a reduced rate to recoup some of my money. Lol let me know. Or I can throw it up on ebay I guess but it is not for me, too many issues and I am very disappointed and frustrated.
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I've dealt with this with OnePlus devices, you just need to call and set your line to "CDMAless"
The only North American carrier that will permit a GSM device to work on the LTE networks without attempting to drop voice calls to 3G (by adding a "CDMAless" note to your account) is Verizon. Most carriers, like the four national Canadian carriers who serve my area, will tell you as they told me: "nope, we won't do that. If you don't want your voice calls to drop to 3G then you need to buy a new device from us". It would just take a few key strokes to add the IMEI of your device and a note that it is a CDMAless provisioned GSM phone to your account, but they won't because they make money selling their own phones. Some carriers will provision VoLTE on 'certified devices' not purchased from them, but here is the catch - they charge a large fee to phone manufacturers to have their devices listed as "certified" on the carrier's network (not that any actual testing is done), and companies like Xiaomi, OnePlus, Oppo, and Vivo won't pay that fee to carriers in regions where they sell only a few phones. In contrast, they have paid the British and most European carriers the certification fee because they sell lots of phones over there. Most Hong Kong mobile phone stores do a thriving business in Britain going back to the days twenty years ago when Hong Kong was still a British colony, and TradingShenzhen, based in mainland China, is a German company that has made duty and tax free imports of Chinese phones into Europe very popular there. I guess if you live in Nova Scotia or Arizona Vivo products won't be 'certified' by local carriers. I have a Huawei Mate 20 X that actually is 'certified' by my carrier and works with VoLTE and WiFi calling, but only because Huawei used to sell a lot of phones here until the government banned Google from working with them and most North Americans have become so Google and Android dependent that they don't want Huawei's new alternative Harmony OS operating system. I did try it out on my Mate 20 X before realizing that without Google Services I couldn't call an Uber or have Gmail update my calendar with important events. I re-flashed Android 12 on the device and I'm still getting monthly patches and security updates. Sorry for the long winded explanation.
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The only North American carrier that will permit a GSM device to work on the LTE networks without attempting to drop voice calls to 3G (by adding a "CDMAless" note to your account) is Verizon. Most carriers, like the four national Canadian carriers who serve my area, will tell you as they told me: "nope, we won't do that. If you don't want your voice calls to drop to 3G then you need to buy a new device from us". It would just take a few key strokes to add the IMEI of your device and a note that it is a CDMAless provisioned GSM phone to your account, but they won't because they make money selling their own phones. Some carriers will provision VoLTE on 'certified devices' not purchased from them, but here is the catch - they charge a large fee to phone manufacturers to have their devices listed as "certified" on the carrier's network (not that any actual testing is done), and companies like Xiaomi, OnePlus, Oppo, and Vivo won't pay that fee to carriers in regions where they sell only a few phones. In contrast, they have paid the British and most European carriers the certification fee because they sell lots of phones over there. Most Hong Kong mobile phone stores do a thriving business in Britain going back to the days twenty years ago when Hong Kong was still a British colony, and TradingShenzhen, based in mainland China, is a German company that has made duty and tax free imports of Chinese phones into Europe very popular there. I guess if you live in Nova Scotia or Arizona Vivo products won't be 'certified' by local carriers. I have a Huawei Mate 20 X that actually is 'certified' by my carrier and works with VoLTE and WiFi calling, but only because Huawei used to sell a lot of phones here until the government banned Google from working with them and most North Americans have become so Google and Android dependent that they don't want Huawei's new alternative Harmony OS operating system. I did try it out on my Mate 20 X before realizing that without Google Services I couldn't call an Uber or have Gmail update my calendar with important events. I re-flashed Android 12 on the device and I'm still getting monthly patches and security updates. Sorry for the long winded explanation.
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Thank you I learned something new... and that new thing is I will buy a Samsung Fold 4 in 4 to 5 months when it releases. I'm too old to care about rooting or doing crazy stuff to make a phone function as a basic phone anymore. I liked the Vivo Fold X on paper sounded awesome but once in North America, not so much, I will be selling it on ebay at a heavy discount to recoup some money and the money loss is just a lesson learned that I am ok with. But I won't be doing this again lesson learned. Thank you for your information though it was a learning experience.
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I've been making a few searches in hopes of finding a solution to this, but came out empty handed. I'm using a Photon 4G (stuck on Electrify 2.3.5) on GSM mode in Argentina. I'm unable to receive data no matter what settings i tinker with. I also tried setting up APNs to no avail.
Anyone has ideas on why this may be happening? Doesn't the Photon support 3G data over GSM worldwide?
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I think you officially have to call Sprint, ask them to remove your phone's SIM lock so you can use other SIM cards overseas, politely sit through their sermon about the dangers of using foreign SIM cards, repeat your request, and call back if necessary to get a more cooperative customer service representative.
From what I've read, all Photons are SIM-locked by default, but Sprint doesn't really fight if you ask them to unlock it for you. However, they MIGHT refuse to remove the SIM lock unless you either purchased the phone without a contract, purchased it used without an ESN-block, or purchased it with a contract 30+ days ago and have already paid your first bill post-purchase. I believe the FCC or FTC made it a law, but left them enough of a loophole so that you couldn't buy a subsidized Sprint phone on contract with a prepaid credit card, then leave the country and cancel the card.
I'm guessing that the inability to use data is because Sprint's SIM has data disabled while roaming by default, so they can make you sit through ANOTHER sermon listening to horror stories about Americans who used their phones in Canada and got hit with $1,000+ bills for a few hours of data use.
You can't totally blame sprint for the default Data block while roaming on their SIM... Android phones use lots of data in the background that most Americans never even notice (because we generally have unlimited data). Using the same phone with charges like 10c/kilobyte can get insanely expensive within just a few minutes.
Or, you could check out the GSM unlock thread somewhere around here. If you're already back in Argentina, it's probably easier. ;-)
Be VERY careful about reflashing a "GSM ROM", and MAKE SURE you've seen confirmation from at least one other user that it has been successfully flashed to a PHOTON -- not an Atrix, Atrix2, or Electrify. Flashing "alien" ROMs is playing with fire, and you can EASILY brick (soft or otherwise) your phone by blindly experimenting.
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I think you officially have to call Sprint, ask them to remove your phone's SIM lock so you can use other SIM cards overseas, politely sit through their sermon about the dangers of using foreign SIM cards, repeat your request, and call back if necessary to get a more cooperative customer service representative.
From what I've read, all Photons are SIM-locked by default, but Sprint doesn't really fight if you ask them to unlock it for you. However, they MIGHT refuse to remove the SIM lock unless you either purchased the phone without a contract, purchased it used without an ESN-block, or purchased it with a contract 30+ days ago and have already paid your first bill post-purchase. I believe the FCC or FTC made it a law, but left them enough of a loophole so that you couldn't buy a subsidized Sprint phone on contract with a prepaid credit card, then leave the country and cancel the card.
I'm guessing that the inability to use data is because Sprint's SIM has data disabled while roaming by default, so they can make you sit through ANOTHER sermon listening to horror stories about Americans who used their phones in Canada and got hit with $1,000+ bills for a few hours of data use.
You can't totally blame sprint for the default Data block while roaming on their SIM... Android phones use lots of data in the background that most Americans never even notice (because we generally have unlimited data). Using the same phone with charges like 10c/kilobyte can get insanely expensive within just a few minutes.
Or, you could check out the GSM unlock thread somewhere around here. If you're already back in Argentina, it's probably easier. ;-)
Be VERY careful about reflashing a "GSM ROM", and MAKE SURE you've seen confirmation from at least one other user that it has been successfully flashed to a PHOTON -- not an Atrix, Atrix2, or Electrify. Flashing "alien" ROMs is playing with fire, and you can EASILY brick (soft or otherwise) your phone by blindly experimenting.
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That's not the correct statement. I owned Photon and recently travel to Asia 2 times. The Photon work fine when I pop the prepaid SIM card in. The Photon came with Global GSM unlock. It's only lock the GSM on US Carriers. It's best to contact the provider of the GSM carrier he is using and ask to see if there are certain settings that need to be done.
Can you make voice call and SMS ? ( I see that you are on a Electrify 2.3.5.. don't know if that is an issue)
I just checked Argentina network. They do have 3G supporting 850 and 1900 frequency band. I advise to take the phone to the provider and ask them for help to set up the 3G network parameters if you do have voice and sms.
Try this link and look for the network provider that you are using in Argentina: They showed most of the settings for 2G/3G: http://nxwiki.blogspot.com/2011/08/movistar-gprs-mms-wap-settings-apn.html
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That's not the correct statement. I owned Photon and recently travel to Asia 2 times. The Photon work fine when I pop the prepaid SIM card in. The Photon came with Global GSM unlock. It's only lock the GSM on US Carriers. It's best to contact the provider of the GSM carrier he is using and ask to see if there are certain settings that need to be done.
Can you make voice call and SMS ? ( I see that you are on a Electrify 2.3.5.. don't know if that is an issue)
I just checked Argentina network. They do have 3G supporting 850 and 1900 frequency band. I advise to take the phone to the provider and ask them for help to set up the 3G network parameters if you do have voice and sms.
Try this link and look for the network provider that you are using in Argentina: They showed most of the settings for 2G/3G: http://nxwiki.blogspot.com/2011/08/movistar-gprs-mms-wap-settings-apn.html
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Thanks for your response. Yes, other than not receiving data, the phone works pretty much flawlessly: SMS and voice work just fine (wifi is a bit moody since it won't connect unless you go to the wi-fi settings and let it look at all your available networks, but I blame this issue on the ROM I'm sitting on).
I'll try APN settings again and see how it fairs. Thanks a bunch for your input guys.
Oh, and BTW, I bought my Photon through Ebay (my girlfriend brought it from New York where she was doing her MA), so I'm not expecting any kind of support from Sprint. Do they actually provide customer service to not-on contract phones?
Thanks again!
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Thanks for your response. Yes, other than not receiving data, the phone works pretty much flawlessly: SMS and voice work just fine (wifi is a bit moody since it won't connect unless you go to the wi-fi settings and let it look at all your available networks, but I blame this issue on the ROM I'm sitting on).
I'll try APN settings again and see how it fairs. Thanks a bunch for your input guys.
Oh, and BTW, I bought my Photon through Ebay (my girlfriend brought it from New York where she was doing her MA), so I'm not expecting any kind of support from Sprint. Do they actually provide customer service to not-on contract phones?
Thanks again!
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Even if you call Sprint. I do not think they will be able to help you. The phone is unlock and work with voice call. It's the network provision that's not allow you to connect with Argentina carriers. The best way is contact the Argentina carrier that you are using and ask them to provide or help to provision that for you. I was having difficulty connect to 3g in Vietnam when I was there (I was doing APN on my own and did not work) I have to contact the Vietnam carrier and they show me how to connect to 3g by using text message send to their server to initiate the automatic provisioning. I recommend that you do the same.
Success!
My stupid fault! I was entering outdated settings on the APN section, which is why it wasn't working before. I have now tried several settings and finally made 3G work! Thanks a million to everyone who contributed, especially roadster92.
For future reference (Claro 3G Argentina users), the configuration I used was the following one:
Connection Name: Claro 3G AR
Authentication: CHAP and PAP
Access Point (APN): gprs.claro.com.ar
UserName: hsdpa
Password: hsdpa
Cheers.
So I've read enough about the GS4 being Sim unlocked from Verizon. We are traveling to St Maarten in the Caribbean in April, and I'm just trying to confirm that its really as simple as purchasing a local sim and popping it in. My GS4 is unlocked and rooted since the MDK bootloader, but my wife's is a work provided phone, and I'm not allowed to touch it (although she always asks me how I tether....sorry dear...I'm not allowed to touch yours). Our resort has wifi but only in the lobby, and I'm not interested in data (I'll be on vaca) but I want to just be able to text my wife if need be while exploring the island.
Anyone know what I can expect to pay for a local sim? Don't even need a lot of minutes....just be able to text back and forth if we need to.
My FIL is on my Verizon plan. He's leaving in a few days for Aruba and Curacao.
He contacted Verizon and was told he could pay $5 for cheaper phone and texting rates while on his trip. I think it is $1.49 or $1.99 per minute for calls and .50 to send text and .05 to receive them.
Data is crazy expensive ($25/100mb with Int'l plan or $22ish per mb without) so I would turn off data sucking apps or seriously limiting it (turn off background sync, etc) even if you opt for the Verizon data plan. Also, if you don't turn off the data before you leave you will most likely get hit with data charges as soon as you land.
I would recommend getting local data sim and using Hangouts or some other non-texting data based chat service instead of texting each other.
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My FIL is on my Verizon plan. He's leaving in a few days for Aruba and Curacao.
He contacted Verizon and was told he could pay $5 for cheaper phone and texting rates while on his trip. I think it is $1.49 or $1.99 per minute for calls and .50 to send text and .05 to receive them.
Data is crazy expensive ($25/100mb with Int'l plan or $22ish per mb without) so I would turn off data sucking apps or seriously limiting it (turn off background sync, etc) even if you opt for the Verizon data plan. Also, if you don't turn off the data before you leave you will most likely get hit with data charges as soon as you land.
I would recommend getting local data sim and using Hangouts or some other non-texting data based chat service instead of texting each other.
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Hangouts I can do....but that uses data. And I'm not going to have wifi on the beach.....MAYBE the beach at our resort....but I've read over and over that wifi is only in the lobby....so who knows where the range will end until I get there. I guess your saying leave data off until I get a local sim in it. Once the local sim is in it, I'll stop getting my verizon data? or will I have to stop gmail, and disable all other data apps?
I know what my phone does, and what apps use what data....and how you can set some up for wifi only....but my wife is clueless tech wise. I guess I'm not going to find a local sim with unlimited texting huh (or even a reasonable number of texts).
Once you replace the Verizon sim (keep it and make sure you know which is yours and which is the wife's because it does matter and you'll be putting them back in as soon as you get home) then your connection to Verizon is gone.
As soon as you install the local sim you will have data and/or phone coverage based on what you bought. If you can get two cheap data only sims that would be the way to go. Then use data services for doing instant messaging to contact each other.
All your data using apps will work just as they did at home. They don't care how you connect to the internet. GMail, Hangouts etc will all work as long as you have a data service.
Enjoy.
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Once you replace the Verizon sim (keep it and make sure you know which is yours and which is the wife's because it does matter and you'll be putting them back in as soon as you get home) then your connection to Verizon is gone.
As soon as you install the local sim you will have data and/or phone coverage based on what you bought. If you can get two cheap data only sims that would be the way to go. Then use data services for doing instant messaging to contact each other.
All your data using apps will work just as they did at home. They don't care how you connect to the internet. GMail, Hangouts etc will all work as long as you have a data service.
Enjoy.
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Ok, I gotcha now. I would love to find a data only Sim. It will be pretty easy to tell which sim is which upon return... I'll just make a test call to see whose phone rings when I dial my number :laugh: Thanks for your help. I don't want to pay Verizon $25 for 100MB as I'm sure some app I forget about will run me over.....and my wife's phone is run by her work....so local sim is the only way to go....or bring her rezound along.....but I'm not sure that phone was ever truly SIM unlocked without a specific Rom...and my rezound hacking days are long behind me.
I came across this site and while it doesn't say how much the sim will cost to purchase, it gives me an idea of the data packages I'll need to buy.
http://wiredsailor.com/new/broadband-internet/3g-services/
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Ok, I gotcha now. I would love to find a data only Sim. It will be pretty easy to tell which sim is which upon return... I'll just make a test call to see whose phone rings when I dial my number :laugh: Thanks for your help. I don't want to pay Verizon $25 for 100MB as I'm sure some app I forget about will run me over.....and my wife's phone is run by her work....so local sim is the only way to go....or bring her rezound along.....but I'm not sure that phone was ever truly SIM unlocked without a specific Rom...and my rezound hacking days are long behind me.
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I just did this last week in the UK - stock GS4 running MK2, with a SIM from ekit.com.
All I did was to insert the SIM, set the phone to GSM mode, define the APN, and you're done. Finding a cheap carrier for data in the Caribbean is tough, however.
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I just did this last week in the UK - stock GS4 running MK2, with a SIM from ekit.com.
All I did was to insert the SIM, set the phone to GSM mode, define the APN, and you're done. Finding a cheap carrier for data in the Caribbean is tough, however.
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So I've been reading on some travel forums about queen of SXM. She is a part time resident of St. Maarten that does rental phones. I emailed her and for $8 for the week I am renting a SIM card. Any voice/data must be added after that in $5 increments. But data is mostly 2g (and expanding to 3g but likely not widely available). It's only $0.55 per day for the data and it's unlimited (since its so slow, its not like your going to be using a lot anyway). So basically for $13 a phone I can get data and no voice so we can message back and forth. Is Hangouts or what's app going to be reliable on a 2g network? I've read that wechat has designed their app for better use on 2g networks (in places like India and other emerging markets). On my Rezound I was able to force the phone into 1x only mode, but not so much on the S4 to be able to test it.....unless I can find an area with a really crappy signal.
Looks like, so far, Three are the only network not to have announced they are stocking the Nexus 6P.
I for one am hoping they are just delaying their announcement!
If anyone has any information regarding this matter, please post here.
Don't think three stocked the Nexus 6 at release did they?
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Three did not stock the N6 so very doubtful they will do the 6P
I think a few places never stocked the 6. This time however, everyone except Three are stocking the 6P.
They can't be the only people not to negotiate a contract to sell the 6P, surely!
Seems that way. No plans as yet to sell it, and as such I'd imagine it won't work with VoLTE on Three either.
Annoying as I've ordered one and am on Three.
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Seems that way. No plans as yet to sell it, and as such I'd imagine it won't work with VoLTE on Three either.
Annoying as I've ordered one and am on Three.
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Not good, any more news on this??
No. I guess we can safely say VoLTE won't be possible on the 6P with Three. That is unless we get the ability to manually enter the relevant IMS settings (like APNs for data), in which case it should be possible.
I have heard rumours that the inTouch app may be updated to allow you to make calls over the app, just like you can use it for calling over Wi-Fi without 'proper' Voice over Wi-Fi support.
In this way, Three will then (apparently) give you access to the 800MHz LTE network (which is available in areas where there's no 3G to fall back to for voice) once you're registered and signed in.
That too could solve the problem, but it's a bit of a bodge and by no means going to happen for definite.
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No. I guess we can safely say VoLTE won't be possible on the 6P with Three. That is unless we get the ability to manually enter the relevant IMS settings (like APNs for data), in which case it should be possible.
I have heard rumours that the inTouch app may be updated to allow you to make calls over the app, just like you can use it for calling over Wi-Fi without 'proper' Voice over Wi-Fi support.
In this way, Three will then (apparently) give you access to the 800MHz LTE network (which is available in areas where there's no 3G to fall back to for voice) once you're registered and signed in.
That too could solve the problem, but it's a bit of a bodge and by no means going to happen for definite.
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When I first ordered the 6P i went into a three store and asked about the VoLTE and they said they should support it.
Remember they dont brand/lock the phones they sell anymore. Can't remember if they put extra software on though.
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When I first ordered the 6P i went into a three store and asked about the VoLTE and they said they should support it.
Remember they dont brand/lock the phones they sell anymore. Can't remember if they put extra software on though.
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They don't lock but they do brand. It isn't like the old days, with custom ring tones, colours, loads of extra apps (free trials of aps, or whatever) installed but it's still a custom ROM with settings unique to them, from APNs to the IMS settings needed for VoLTE (and Wi-Fi calling).
If you want to use VoLTE on Three today, or SuperVoice as they call it, you need to flash the Three ROM on your Galaxy S5, LG G4 or the other few devices given access - and requiring a software update.
Apple is the exception. These are never branded and the carrier settings are the same on EVERY single phone. I do wish Google would do something similar with regards to carrier settings, as then every phone on any network could be made to work properly with all the available features.
Given this is Xda, it's worth noting that there are sometimes other ways to get a generic phone to work with VoLTE but it's not something Joe Public would be able to do, or even know they could do. And Three stores have been saying some phones are able to work that can't (and never will, unless they do this inTouch update) as well as saying 4G 800 is a high priority, when the reality is that it's the lowest and you'll only ever use it when 3G isn't available.
There's a dedicated UK thread here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/uk-nexus-6p-t3213767
Please continue this there. :good:
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Howdy, y'all!
I was looking at a good deal locally to get an LG V60 UW 5G, but I'm on T-mobile. I was wondering if I could get it working for T-mobile's 5G bands (71, 66, 2, etc); or if there would be some issues as it's a Verizon phone originally (that's unlocked). From what I can tell is that it should work as it does have the correct bands. Any help or further info would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Loubar
5G may not work. I think the Verizon version of 5G uses an mm wave radio that is different from T-Mobile.
Best of luck to you though.
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It doesn't work
Don't try this as I am currently stuck in this situation. I thought it would work so I bought a Verizon LG v60 and connected to T-Mobile network. Now I only have 4G and it drops to 3G to make phone calls. ? The only hope is for T-Mobile to go mm wave soon.
I have a Verizon LG-V60 UW on T-Mobile and it worked perfect on 5G in the Missouri area. I'm almost in Arkansas and I'm still getting 5-G. It used to do the shuffle where it would go from 5G down to 3G or HSPA when I would make a call which means I wasn't getting VOLTE because if I were, then it would not need to drop to 3G or anything less than 4G LTE to make phone calls. I could be wrong, but I think it's a slim chance, I suspect the deficiency is not with the hardware, i.e., the Verizon model has enough bands to support VOLTE even on T-Mobile's Sprint-T-Mobile combination of towers, (hence the ability to receive consistent 5G) but Verizon has found a way to defy the deal they signed onto when the FCC let them come in before the doors were open to bid on spectrum privately and Verizon promised to make phones that were SIM unlocked for...ever. They have been bucking that clause in the agreement ever since, but of lately they are REALLY pushing back at the FCC by locking SIMs, and the FCC has capitulated a few times IMHO by allowing Verizon to lock them under certain circumstances such as if a device is not paid off or not on their network long enough- which begs the question, what did they get from Verizon that's any different from the rest of the carriers? That is the industry standard, but I digress. Point is they want to tether their phones to their network and they have started to decide some more thoughtful ways as opposed to just defying the FCC outright by locking the SIMs, and one of them is to deny WIFI calling if you are not on their network with the V60 at least. You are directed every time the phone powers up to put in your address for 911 purposes since WIFI calling doesn't always transmit the address to the police like the E911 would on a cellular call. This is NOT a requirement, by the way, there is no law that says you can't make phone calls over wifi without appraising the police as to where to send the cops if you ever dial 911 over WiFi. But, there is no way around Verizon's interface on the LG-V60, and, as you can guess from my rant, you will never be able to successfully update your address with Verizon if you are on TMobile, or anybody else that I've seen because it will just bounce around for a few minutes of pointless waiting to come back and tell you that something went wrong and you can try again... But don't. There isn't any purpose and they know it. You won't be able to update Verizon's databases from another carrier unless maybe you still have an account with Verizon, and that's still debatable from another carrier. So no WiFi calling on other networks. Ever. Same thing goes for VoLTE. It never provisions if you are on T-Mobile. Can't, Verizon has locked the door. It did work when I first got the phone. Then, I reset the phone and since I did not have initial access to Verizon's network, it did not provision (unlock the VoLTE). Unfortunate for me, I bought my device from the internet swap site and I checked the company's IMEI checker which green-lighted the sale by giving me the false impression that the device had no blacklists for theft or financial non-payment. Then, when I tried to circumvent the new way to prevent their Verizon customers from escaping by putting in my girlfriend's Verizon SIM in long enough to provision all the barriers aforementioned, and it locked her SIM up simply because the guy sold me a phone and Verizon told me that they can say that the IMEI is good quite a while after a person sells an unpaid phone before changing their report that the phone is clear and free to it is black listed, meaning that it is almost pointless to rely on their IMEI check because anyone can sell the phone while they owe a thousand dollars on it still and then, after you give them $900, they simply quit paying and you have all the problems of a blacklisted phone even though you were told it was a-ok when you checked with them and ran the IMEI before buying the phone. It was hell trying to get my girlfriend's phone working again after they unceremoniously shut it down for punishment of putting her Verizon SIM into a Verizon phone that someone had stopped making the payments. It wasn't stolen mind you; do not put your SIM in anybody's phone if you have a Verizon SIM because they won't tell you that it offends them, they just **** your service off and now you have to contact them and if it's on s holiday weekend like it was for me, you are screwed for a couple days. I was, and I was lost- no gps and running out of gas in the middle of nowhere. Long explanation, but it could be critical if someone owns a Verizon phone or attempts to buy one and puts their SIM in it to see if it works- God can't help you if you do.
Jeesh, all that and I forgot to mention this: I now use the 5G on CDMA, but cannot make calls. I just switch the mobile network to CDMA LTE and instantly I have 5G service but only emergency calls because VoLTE is not working. Nor video calling. But when I want to make a cellular call or see my text messages I switch back to Global mode and it goes right to 3G or HSPA (most time it flips constantly between the two over and over and over) and I get my texts and am able to make non-emergency calls. It's a hassle, but what am I going to do? Verizon is the biggest bully on the block, not even the FCC can push them around, and LG bit the bullet as far as phones are concerned. SMH...
I purchased a Verizon V60 (LM-V600VM) on ebay in late December 2021 and was told by Verizon customer service this phone's IMEI will not work on Verizon's network (likely due to original account holder's non-payment fulfillment, but that private info I'm not allowed to know). I never planned to us this V60 on Verizon's network and was 99% sure it would work on both T-mobile and AT&Ts network even though it's blacklisted on Verizon's network. Well it does work on both T-mobile and AT&T networks (on Consumer Cellular plans) until just a few days ago. It now will no longer allow incoming or outgoing calls. It still does get 4GLTE data and receives/sends text messages (with photo's too). I turned on all settings I could think of but with no luck getting calls to work. I suspect calls are no longer working due to the 3G phase out requirements by the FCC to retire this frequently to make room for 5G. I also think this Verizon V60 phone does not have built-in VoLTE capability but instead uses Verizon's built-in HD voice (as a voice over network) technology to place calls when 3G is not available and used only on the Verizon network. Since this V60 is blacklisted and can never be used on Verizon's network and it looks like the 3G frequency has been retired (dropped off the face of the earth never to be resurrected again), I'm asking if anyone knows a way around my problem with not being able to place cellular calls now. I know about Google voice but that seems like a clunky patch alternative. Does anyone know if an AT&T or T-MOBILE V60 main board (motherboard) swap into a LM-V600VM Verizon phone would work in this situation???
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I have a Verizon LG-V60 UW on T-Mobile and it worked perfect on 5G in the Missouri area. I'm almost in Arkansas and I'm still getting 5-G. It used to do the shuffle where it would go from 5G down to 3G or HSPA when I would make a call which means I wasn't getting VOLTE because if I were, then it would not need to drop to 3G or anything less than 4G LTE to make phone calls. I could be wrong, but I think it's a slim chance, I suspect the deficiency is not with the hardware, i.e., the Verizon model has enough bands to support VOLTE even on T-Mobile's Sprint-T-Mobile combination of towers, (hence the ability to receive consistent 5G) but Verizon has found a way to defy the deal they signed onto when the FCC let them come in before the doors were open to bid on spectrum privately and Verizon promised to make phones that were SIM unlocked for...ever. They have been bucking that clause in the agreement ever since, but of lately they are REALLY pushing back at the FCC by locking SIMs, and the FCC has capitulated a few times IMHO by allowing Verizon to lock them under certain circumstances such as if a device is not paid off or not on their network long enough- which begs the question, what did they get from Verizon that's any different from the rest of the carriers? That is the industry standard, but I digress. Point is they want to tether their phones to their network and they have started to decide some more thoughtful ways as opposed to just defying the FCC outright by locking the SIMs, and one of them is to deny WIFI calling if you are not on their network with the V60 at least. You are directed every time the phone powers up to put in your address for 911 purposes since WIFI calling doesn't always transmit the address to the police like the E911 would on a cellular call. This is NOT a requirement, by the way, there is no law that says you can't make phone calls over wifi without appraising the police as to where to send the cops if you ever dial 911 over WiFi. But, there is no way around Verizon's interface on the LG-V60, and, as you can guess from my rant, you will never be able to successfully update your address with Verizon if you are on TMobile, or anybody else that I've seen because it will just bounce around for a few minutes of pointless waiting to come back and tell you that something went wrong and you can try again... But don't. There isn't any purpose and they know it. You won't be able to update Verizon's databases from another carrier unless maybe you still have an account with Verizon, and that's still debatable from another carrier. So no WiFi calling on other networks. Ever. Same thing goes for VoLTE. It never provisions if you are on T-Mobile. Can't, Verizon has locked the door. It did work when I first got the phone. Then, I reset the phone and since I did not have initial access to Verizon's network, it did not provision (unlock the VoLTE). Unfortunate for me, I bought my device from the internet swap site and I checked the company's IMEI checker which green-lighted the sale by giving me the false impression that the device had no blacklists for theft or financial non-payment. Then, when I tried to circumvent the new way to prevent their Verizon customers from escaping by putting in my girlfriend's Verizon SIM in long enough to provision all the barriers aforementioned, and it locked her SIM up simply because the guy sold me a phone and Verizon told me that they can say that the IMEI is good quite a while after a person sells an unpaid phone before changing their report that the phone is clear and free to it is black listed, meaning that it is almost pointless to rely on their IMEI check because anyone can sell the phone while they owe a thousand dollars on it still and then, after you give them $900, they simply quit paying and you have all the problems of a blacklisted phone even though you were told it was a-ok when you checked with them and ran the IMEI before buying the phone. It was hell trying to get my girlfriend's phone working again after they unceremoniously shut it down for punishment of putting her Verizon SIM into a Verizon phone that someone had stopped making the payments. It wasn't stolen mind you; do not put your SIM in anybody's phone if you have a Verizon SIM because they won't tell you that it offends them, they just **** your service off and now you have to contact them and if it's on s holiday weekend like it was for me, you are screwed for a couple days. I was, and I was lost- no gps and running out of gas in the middle of nowhere. Long explanation, but it could be critical if someone owns a Verizon phone or attempts to buy one and puts their SIM in it to see if it works- God can't help you if you do.
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Can you confirm if your Verizon LG-V60 UW is still able to make and receive calls while on T-mobiles network? My Verizon LG-V60 UW for some reason can not make calls now (on AT&T network). It use to without any problems about a couple of weeks ago. It now only gets 4GLTE data and receives/sends text, but calls can't go thru anymore
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Can you confirm if your Verizon LG-V60 UW is still able to make and receive calls while on T-mobiles network? My Verizon LG-V60 UW for some reason can not make calls now (on AT&T network). It use to without any problems about a couple of weeks ago. It now only gets 4GLTE data and receives/sends text, but calls can't go thru anymore
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That's because the V60 doesn't support VoLTE anymore if you use a version of the phone not from your carrier, even then it might not work. If you use an LG v60 T-Mobile version on T-Mobile it might work, but I would count on it.
Pls LG v60 uw has; 2, 25, 41, 66, 71 SA/NSA/Sub6?
Is LG v60 uw has only 5g 260 and 261 mmwave?
AndyGumpp said:
I have a Verizon LG-V60 UW on T-Mobile and it worked perfect on 5G in the Missouri area. I'm almost in Arkansas and I'm still getting 5-G. It used to do the shuffle where it would go from 5G down to 3G or HSPA when I would make a call which means I wasn't getting VOLTE because if I were, then it would not need to drop to 3G or anything less than 4G LTE to make phone calls. I could be wrong, but I think it's a slim chance, I suspect the deficiency is not with the hardware, i.e., the Verizon model has enough bands to support VOLTE even on T-Mobile's Sprint-T-Mobile combination of towers, (hence the ability to receive consistent 5G) but Verizon has found a way to defy the deal they signed onto when the FCC let them come in before the doors were open to bid on spectrum privately and Verizon promised to make phones that were SIM unlocked for...ever. They have been bucking that clause in the agreement ever since, but of lately they are REALLY pushing back at the FCC by locking SIMs, and the FCC has capitulated a few times IMHO by allowing Verizon to lock them under certain circumstances such as if a device is not paid off or not on their network long enough- which begs the question, what did they get from Verizon that's any different from the rest of the carriers? That is the industry standard, but I digress. Point is they want to tether their phones to their network and they have started to decide some more thoughtful ways as opposed to just defying the FCC outright by locking the SIMs, and one of them is to deny WIFI calling if you are not on their network with the V60 at least. You are directed every time the phone powers up to put in your address for 911 purposes since WIFI calling doesn't always transmit the address to the police like the E911 would on a cellular call. This is NOT a requirement, by the way, there is no law that says you can't make phone calls over wifi without appraising the police as to where to send the cops if you ever dial 911 over WiFi. But, there is no way around Verizon's interface on the LG-V60, and, as you can guess from my rant, you will never be able to successfully update your address with Verizon if you are on TMobile, or anybody else that I've seen because it will just bounce around for a few minutes of pointless waiting to come back and tell you that something went wrong and you can try again... But don't. There isn't any purpose and they know it. You won't be able to update Verizon's databases from another carrier unless maybe you still have an account with Verizon, and that's still debatable from another carrier. So no WiFi calling on other networks. Ever. Same thing goes for VoLTE. It never provisions if you are on T-Mobile. Can't, Verizon has locked the door. It did work when I first got the phone. Then, I reset the phone and since I did not have initial access to Verizon's network, it did not provision (unlock the VoLTE). Unfortunate for me, I bought my device from the internet swap site and I checked the company's IMEI checker which green-lighted the sale by giving me the false impression that the device had no blacklists for theft or financial non-payment. Then, when I tried to circumvent the new way to prevent their Verizon customers from escaping by putting in my girlfriend's Verizon SIM in long enough to provision all the barriers aforementioned, and it locked her SIM up simply because the guy sold me a phone and Verizon told me that they can say that the IMEI is good quite a while after a person sells an unpaid phone before changing their report that the phone is clear and free to it is black listed, meaning that it is almost pointless to rely on their IMEI check because anyone can sell the phone while they owe a thousand dollars on it still and then, after you give them $900, they simply quit paying and you have all the problems of a blacklisted phone even though you were told it was a-ok when you checked with them and ran the IMEI before buying the phone. It was hell trying to get my girlfriend's phone working again after they unceremoniously shut it down for punishment of putting her Verizon SIM into a Verizon phone that someone had stopped making the payments. It wasn't stolen mind you; do not put your SIM in anybody's phone if you have a Verizon SIM because they won't tell you that it offends them, they just **** your service off and now you have to contact them and if it's on s holiday weekend like it was for me, you are screwed for a couple days. I was, and I was lost- no gps and running out of gas in the middle of nowhere. Long explanation, but it could be critical if someone owns a Verizon phone or attempts to buy one and puts their SIM in it to see if it works- God can't help you if you do.
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I have an LG V60 from Verizon it worked awesome I got it when it first came out it always read 5G UW constantly never even saw 4G I lost that phone it got replaced and that phone worked perfectly fine as well now all of a sudden that phone got ran over and I'm on another replacement phone and it only reads 4G and it won't update my phone to Android 11 they told me something's wrong with my phone and I need to have the insurance company issue me another phone so the insurance company told me we can't send you another phone Verizon does not authorize replacement phones for Network signal or software issues. I talked to several texts from Verizon they had me reset the phone plug it into my laptop try to update the software that way none of it works it's stuck on Android 10 and they won't help me at all. And finally they telling me well your phone's going to search for the best signal it can get from the tires and that's all they can tell me so basically they're telling me it's getting the best signal it can which is only 4G I've had this LG V60 replacement phone for 6 months now and it hasn't read 5G once I'm so angry it sound real now I literally have to buy another one and make sure 5G UW works and make sure it can upgrade to 11 Android. Right now I don't know what to do other than at some point to buy another LG V60 it's the most unfair issue I've ever had with a smartphone device and Verizon is like the evil empire of carriers if you're not a business or corporate and y'all just a single person with an account take a care less in fact all they ever do is send me emails and texts to upgrade to a new phone so they can get more monthly payments out of me. I forgot to mention I bought the LG V60 when it first came out and I paid for it fully in cash. I swear because I'm not making phone payments did not quick to help at all
I have a lg v30 "us998" I bought off ebay. Rooted, bootloaders unlocked with magisk and software US99820h android version 8.0.0.
Been using ting for a long time, but I've come to a point where I need to make calls more and I can't use this phone on their new unlimited service. Anyone have suggestions on reasonably priced services that offer unlimited talk and text? I saw someone post something prepaid they bought off ebay but cannot find what it was. Open to all suggestions as long as I am able to bring this phone over as I don't want to shop for a new phone and deal with rooting again.
Thanks.
Is your Ting with T-Mobile network? If so, you might like Mint.
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ChazzMatt said:
Is your Ting with T-Mobile network? If so, you might like Mint.
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Hey, ChazzMatt. Looking over my ting customer support history looks like it is using a GSM sim card which is T-Mobile. I'll take a look at switching to mint. Thanks for always helping.
Any ideas on redpocket (this was the service I was originally thinking) or us mobile?
Red pocket has a plan gsmt 200 mins and 1000 txts 200mb for 2.50 a month. I don't see a way to check if my phone is compatible though.
SuperUser1010 said:
Any ideas on redpocket (this was the service I was originally thinking) or us mobile?
Red pocket has a plan gsmt 200 mins and 1000 txts 200mb for 2.50 a month. I don't see a way to check if my phone is compatible though.
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It's compatible. I am using Red Pocket GSMA (AT&T) with US99820h. Others have posted about using Red Pocket GSMT (T-Mobile) also on US998.
I third user posted about Mint providing more features on US998 than Red Pocket (specifically Visual Voicemail). So definitely check them too.
Best Red Pocket deals are quarterly and annual plans on the Red Pocket eBay store. I have 100mins/100txt/500MB per month for $60/year. But they may have better deals since I bought that last summer.
Phenominal thank you. I was literally just reading a post of yours on an older thread of your thoughts on redpocket.
Do I need to do anything special for volte/wifi calling? I don't believe I've ever had that work on Ting; I only see an option for wifi calling which errors out if I try to turn on and don't see where volte option is. This could be very useful for me because my service is about 1 bar inside my house; if I can get calls via 4g or wifi (I'm usually home or at school so wifi everywhere) that would solve that issue.
VoLTE should be automatic on both GSMA (Red Pocket AT&T) and GSMT (Red Pocket T-Mobile). You won't see statusbar icons to confirm it, although I've enabled such icons in my phone's Hidden menu.
Red Pocket provides WiFi Calling (VoWiFi) if you ask them to activate it. US998 doesn't support it on AT&T (including GSMA) but DOES support it on T-Mobile (including GSMT). According to the user who recently confirmed it on GSMT there is a menu to enable it (like you are seeing with Ting, it just isn't provisioned by them). But still no statusbar icons, which is strange.
You really should read the last few pages of ChazzMatt's VoLTE thread for that discussion:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...mware-not-los-based-custom-roms-when.4138223/
Edit: Again make sure to also check out Mint. My wife had them a few years ago, and they worked well on an H932 (TMO V30). But we switched when their seemingly good price turned out to be just a 3-month intro offer.
TheDannemand said:
Again make sure to also check out Mint. My wife had them a few years ago, and they worked well on an H932 (TMO V30). But we switched when their seemingly good price turned out to be just a 3-month intro offer.
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Yes, their intro 3-month plans are lower than the "regular" 3-month plans, but you can get that same price if you pay for 12-months in advance. The only reason you would want to do that, however, is if you try them for 3 months and like them very much and you don't anticipate changing providers for another year.
Or you can go with 6-month plan which splits the difference.
Or you can go with 3 months again, at the "regular" price.
Interesting that they don't seem to offer just monthly plans.
By the way, this is the MVNO bought by Ryan Reynolds. Well, not bought outright, but he owns a very large percentage (November 2019) and since has been appearing in their commercials: "In connection with the investment, Reynolds will help with Mint’s communications and marketing efforts as well as strategic decision-making."
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TheDannemand said:
VoLTE should be automatic on both GSMA (Red Pocket AT&T) and GSMT (Red Pocket T-Mobile). You won't see statusbar icons to confirm it, although I've enabled such icons in my phone's Hidden menu.
Red Pocket provides WiFi Calling (VoWiFi) if you ask them to activate it. US998 doesn't support it on AT&T (including GSMA) but DOES support it on T-Mobile (including GSMT). According to the user who recently confirmed it on GSMT there is a menu to enable it (like you are seeing with Ting, it just isn't provisioned by them). But still no statusbar icons, which is strange.
You really should read the last few pages of ChazzMatt's VoLTE thread for that discussion:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...mware-not-los-based-custom-roms-when.4138223/
Edit: Again make sure to also check out Mint. My wife had them a few years ago, and they worked well on an H932 (TMO V30). But we switched when their seemingly good price turned out to be just a 3-month intro offer.
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I've just analyzed my ting bills over time and it seems like the 8.25/mo plan from red pocket would fulfill my needs best (1000 minute should be more than enough for me). I'll finish reading over that thread when I get some more free time. I tried to look at that hidden menu using *#*#4636#*#* but it doesn't seem to do anything on my phone. Is that just an alternate way to enter developer mode?
Here is a question, what is difference between using vowifi and volte? Is it just one is better depending on which is stronger for you?
SuperUser1010 said:
I tried to look at that hidden menu using *#*#4636#*#* but it doesn't seem to do anything on my phone. Is that just an alternate way to enter developer mode?
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The dialer codes should work, but you have to enter them in the stock LG dialer. If you copy/paste them then make sure no spaces anywhere.
*#*#4636#*#* is the Android Testing menu, which merely shows some useful information, including whether VoLTE and VoWiFi are provisioned by the carrier AND picked up by the SIM card and the phone.
*#546368#*998# (998 to be replaced with your phone's model number) is the actual Hidden menu, which provides a number of technical controls meant only for LG themselves. Warning: There are plenty of ways to mess up your phone in there, some permanently! You shouldn't have to use Hidden menu with US998 on T-Mobile, including Mint and Red Pocket GSMT. Best to avoid it if you can!
These have nothing to do with Developer Mode, which is a useful menu for other things -- and mostly harmless.
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Here is a question, what is difference between using vowifi and volte? Is it just one is better depending on which is stronger for you?
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VoLTE and VoWiFI (WiFi Calling) both operate the same way: They transmit voice calls over data. But VoWiFi has more extensive authentication since it gives you access to the carrier's network from any WiFi network. VoLTE requires an activated SIM card, so you're already authenticated through that.
You would normally prefer to use VoWiFi anytime you have a good WiFi connection, particularly indoors where cell signals can be challenged. If you always have good LTE signal, you generally don't have to bother with VoWiFi.
Some carriers use voice minutes when you use VoWiFi, others don't. Red Pocket GSMA (AT&T) does NOT count voice minutes on VoWiFi, but other Red Pocket networks (including GSMT) DO count them. See the Red Pocket support pages below:
VoLTE: https://help.redpocket.com/hc/en-us...-and-can-I-use-it-with-my-Red-Pocket-service-
VoWiFi: https://help.redpocket.com/hc/en-us...-and-can-I-use-it-with-my-Red-Pocket-service-
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The dialer codes should work, but you have to enter them in the stock LG dialer. If you copy/paste them then make sure no spaces anywhere.
*#*#4636#*#* is the Android Testing menu, which merely shows some useful information, including whether VoLTE and VoWiFi are provisioned by the carrier AND picked up by the SIM card and the phone.
*#546368#*998# (998 to be replaced with your phone's model number) is the actual Hidden menu, which provides a number of technical controls meant only for LG themselves. Warning: There are plenty of ways to mess up your phone in there, some permanently! You shouldn't have to use Hidden menu with US998 on T-Mobile, including Mint and Red Pocket GSMT. Best to avoid it if you can!
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Odd, the android testing menu code is accepted but menu does not pop up. Whereas the hidden menu works. I tried rebooting and trying again. Same results. Oddly when I rebooted, youtube music (from youtube vanced) installed. But that's something else lol.
I'll pull the trigger on red pocket's 8.25/mo plan probably this week.
I was just comparing plan prices now between Mint and Red Pocket, and BOY did things change a lot since last I looked: Red Pocket only has a fraction of the plans they used to on their eBay store. I assume the carriers have tightened their access.
Generally, if (A) you can use T-Mobile in your area and (B) are willing to pay $180/year or more ($15/month) Mint is the better deal, since they provide unlimited voice and 4GB/month starting at that tier.
If you are looking to pay less than $180/year OR service on other networks, Red Pocket is a better choice. Such as 1000mins/1GB LTE for $99/year ($8.25/month, available on all 4 carriers); 100mins/500MB LTE for $60/year ($5/month, available on GSMA/ATT, CDMA/VZ, CDMAS/Sprint); 200mins/200MB LTE for $30/year ($2.50/month, available on GSMT/TMO).
For quarterly/monthly plans, Mint becomes expensive after the 3-month intro: Their smallest plan is quarterly $25/month. Red Pocket has several regular monthly plans, starting at $10 for 1000mins/1GB LTE, available on all networks.
My wife has been on Red Pocket's $19/month Unlimited/3GB LTE plan for a couple years now, and it looks like that's still the best deal for her.
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Odd, the android testing menu code is accepted but menu does not pop up. Whereas the hidden menu works. I tried rebooting and trying again. Same results. Oddly when I rebooted, youtube music (from youtube vanced) installed. But that's something else lol.
I'll pull the trigger on red pocket's 8.25/mo plan probably this week.
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If you are on a custom ROM or have mods installed, that may explain it. Otherwise I don't know why.
Unfortunately I haven't used GSMT (or TMO) in several years so I won't be able to help you much beyond general pointers. But from other reports you should be OK.
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If you are on a custom ROM or have mods installed, that may explain it. Otherwise I don't know why.
Unfortunately I haven't used GSMT (or TMO) in several years so I won't be able to help you much beyond general pointers. But from other reports you should be OK.
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I don't think I'm on a custom ROM. I believe it is a stock. I remember when I bought phone I just followed ChazzMatt's frankenstein's guide to unlock bootloaders and install magisk; never wanted to put the time in to try those custom roms. Only module I have installed per magisk is systemless hosts. I have greenify and few other "rooted" apps istalled, but none that should do anything funky.
SuperUser1010 said:
I don't think I'm on a custom ROM. I believe it is a stock. I remember when I bought phone I just followed ChazzMatt's frankenstein's guide to unlock bootloaders and install magisk; never wanted to put the time in to try those custom roms. Only module I have installed per magisk is systemless hosts. I have greenify and few other "rooted" apps istalled, but none that should do anything funky.
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I suppose Greenify and other root apps could interfere with the Testing menu, although I am surprised if they do.
You shouldn't need these Hidden menus on TMO, though. Just ask Red Pocket chat to activate VoLTE and WiFi Calling on your account and enable it in the phone menu.