i updated to android 12, without any modifications prior, is it possible to root this phone still? or is there no root method for android 12 yet? i've been curious on rooting it for a little while now.
texas7412 said:
i updated to android 12, without any modifications prior, is it possible to root this phone still? or is there no root method for android 12 yet? i've been curious on rooting it for a little while now.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/v60-bootloader-unlock-and-magisk-root.4358785/ Reports are saying it works fine.
surgemanx said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/v60-bootloader-unlock-and-magisk-root.4358785/ Reports are saying it works fine.
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Thank you! I hope it works fine for me.. i don't really want to kill my phone Lol i've had a lot of experience with rooting and unbricking phones, but i'm still a bit on edge especially with this one given its price compared to like $50 or less i've paid for others Haha
texas7412 said:
Thank you! I hope it works fine for me.. i don't really want to kill my phone Lol i've had a lot of experience with rooting and unbricking phones, but i'm still a bit on edge especially with this one given its price compared to like $50 or less i've paid for others Haha
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We have the firehose for the V60!The possibilities are endless..lol..
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We have the firehose for the V60!The possibilities are endless..lol..
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i hate to say it.. but the tutorial isn't working for me in qfil it tells me "Please make sure you have selected the correct programmer in flat build page" i rebooted it into the 9008 mode 10-20 times now and it hasn't worked..
texas7412 said:
i hate to say it.. but the tutorial isn't working for me in qfil it tells me "Please make sure you have selected the correct programmer in flat build page" i rebooted it into the 9008 mode 10-20 times now and it hasn't worked..
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Here,try this one.I just used it not even 10 minutes ago to make a full LUNS back up of a V60 I have laying on my desk.I'm actually using LUNS backups to crossflash other carrier V60's with AT&T software so the VoLTE works.
Edit:Oh,make sure you choose flat build.Then choose this firehose.
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Here,try this one.I just used it not even 10 minutes ago to make a full LUNS back up of a V60 I have laying on my desk.I'm actually using LUNS backups to crossflash other carrier V60's with AT&T software so the VoLTE works.
Edit:Oh,make sure you choose flat build.Then choose this firehose.
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this was certainly an interesting experience, i could unlock the bootloader, but doing it via the file thing provided it won't work, going to fastboot and doing fastboot oem unlock, then booting into a twrp recovery and flashing magisk v24.3, it bricked the OS and i had to fight to get it to boot, twrp broke and is locked it refuses to unlock, it gave me an odd looking recovery mode as if it was from android kitkat or something (thats the best i can describe it, it looked much different from the other recovery to wipe) and it said it couldn't boot android and it said to factory reset, so i did.. it downgraded me to android 11 and now its rooted but i can't update to android 12 now because of it being rooted? is there a way to update to 12 now?
texas7412 said:
this was certainly an interesting experience, i could unlock the bootloader, but doing it via the file thing provided it won't work, going to fastboot and doing fastboot oem unlock, then booting into a twrp recovery and flashing magisk v24.3, it bricked the OS and i had to fight to get it to boot, twrp broke and is locked it refuses to unlock, it gave me an odd looking recovery mode as if it was from android kitkat or something (thats the best i can describe it, it looked much different from the other recovery to wipe) and it said it couldn't boot android and it said to factory reset, so i did.. it downgraded me to android 11 and now its rooted but i can't update to android 12 now because of it being rooted? is there a way to update to 12 now?
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Afraid not because OTA updates will look for rooted or bootloader unlocked devices and will normally give you a white screen error code.Nature of the beast I guess you could say.If you don't plan on doing a custom rom or trying to remove OEM software it's not really worth it honestly.
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Afraid not because OTA updates will look for rooted or bootloader unlocked devices and will normally give you a white screen error code.Nature of the beast I guess you could say.If you don't plan on doing a custom rom or trying to remove OEM software it's not really worth it honestly.
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Ahh okay. Thanks though! Do you know why it would have downgraded from 12 to 11 though? that doesn't really make any sense to me.. why did rooting downgrade without me installing an older system or anything like that?
texas7412 said:
Thank you! I hope it works fine for me.. i don't really want to kill my phone Lol i've had a lot of experience with rooting and unbricking phones, but i'm still a bit on edge especially with this one given its price compared to like $50 or less i've paid for others Haha
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Think about it this way, a V60 with a broken screen is less than 100 bucks. If you brick it, you can fix it for far less than bricking any other phone in a similar class.
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Ahh okay. Thanks though! Do you know why it would have downgraded from 12 to 11 though? that doesn't really make any sense to me.. why did rooting downgrade without me installing an older system or anything like that?
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Now,that's an odd one.My thoughts would be because of the engineering bootloader that's written for unlocking purposes?Are you sure it was A12 to begin with?lol..
pflatlyne said:
Think about it this way, a V60 with a broken screen is less than 100 bucks. If you brick it, you can fix it for far less than bricking any other phone in a similar class.
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And this is very true!The V60 was way ahead of it's time!It's a shame LG devices were never marketed properly and supported on a local retail level like they should have been.And even if you did brick them,worst thing would be peeling the back off and hitting the testpoint to bring it back to life.
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Now,that's an odd one.My thoughts would be because of the engineering bootloader that's written for unlocking purposes?Are you sure it was A12 to begin with?lol..
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Yes! I was so excited that i got 12 on it, the bootloader shows its android 12 though.. which is really confusing to me.. is there any chance there's an android 12 kdz for this phone floating around that i could try to root and flash? i'm kind of regretting it now, i can't get the fingerprint scanner working following the tutorial there.. i can't update to 12 again it just fails to download, my recovery mode is gone, i can't get back into the bootloader/fastboot mode only EDL mode but it won't recognize anything within windows, adb won't work nor fastboot, can i recover it still if i wish to go back to stock?
The good news is, it gets much better benchmark scores and is much much faster..
on geekbench, 1688 single core, 6203 multicore, it had a higher score but said it was invalid? that one was 4067 single core, 15601 multicore
antutu, it scored 695755 with just using kernel auditor and maxing out the cpu freq and setting gpu freq to 870mhz.
Edit: I just remembered, for where you mentioned the bootloader, i don't have the engineering one installed. i never got that far to even install it. just android debugging > oem unlock > fastboot > fastboot oem unlock
texas7412 said:
Yes! I was so excited that i got 12 on it, the bootloader shows its android 12 though.. which is really confusing to me.. is there any chance there's an android 12 kdz for this phone floating around that i could try to root and flash? i'm kind of regretting it now, i can't get the fingerprint scanner working following the tutorial there.. i can't update to 12 again it just fails to download, my recovery mode is gone, i can't get back into the bootloader/fastboot mode only EDL mode but it won't recognize anything within windows, adb won't work nor fastboot, can i recover it still if i wish to go back to stock?
The good news is, it gets much better benchmark scores and is much much faster..
on geekbench, 1688 single core, 6203 multicore, it had a higher score but said it was invalid? that one was 4067 single core, 15601 multicore
antutu, it scored 695755 with just using kernel auditor and maxing out the cpu freq and setting gpu freq to 870mhz.
Edit: I just remembered, for where you mentioned the bootloader, i don't have the engineering one installed. i never got that far to even install it. just android debugging > oem unlock > fastboot > fastboot oem unlock
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That depends on what model of V60 you have?Most of the kdz files for Verizon or T-Mobile can be found at the link below.AT&T or Sprint no kdz's to be found except back up Qfil copies I have found.Take a look,and LGUP it if you find the firmware you want.Most will be A11 and you can just OTA back to A12 with no problem.
Models - LG-Firmwares.com
Free archive of LG firmwares. Comparison of features and reviews of all mobile devices. Quick download of updates for your device.
lg-firmwares.com
surgemanx said:
That depends on what model of V60 you have?Most of the kdz files for Verizon or T-Mobile can be found at the link below.AT&T or Sprint no kdz's to be found except back up Qfil copies I have found.Take a look,and LGUP it if you find the firmware you want.Most will be A11 and you can just OTA back to A12 with no problem.
Models - LG-Firmwares.com
Free archive of LG firmwares. Comparison of features and reviews of all mobile devices. Quick download of updates for your device.
lg-firmwares.com
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okay good! Thank you! Is there any chance of a android 12 KDZ for the t-mobile variant? and if i flash back an original KDZ, will i have to wipe everything again? Thanks.
texas7412 said:
okay good! Thank you! Is there any chance of a android 12 KDZ for the t-mobile variant? and if i flash back an original KDZ, will i have to wipe everything again? Thanks.
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If you refurb it with LGUP it will wipe it all.The T-Mobile model has A12,but no physical kdz as of yet.So,you'll have to OTA back to A12 once you set it all back up.
surgemanx said:
If you refurb it with LGUP it will wipe it all.The T-Mobile model has A12,but no physical kdz as of yet.So,you'll have to OTA back to A12 once you set it all back up.
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do i have to refurb to go back to stock, or can i do it via the upgrade option? Sorry if i'm being bothersome lol
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If you refurb it with LGUP it will wipe it all.The T-Mobile model has A12,but no physical kdz as of yet.So,you'll have to OTA back to A12 once you set it all back up.
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HEY! SO I FLASHED THE STOCK BOOT A AND BOOT B AND THEN IT LET ME UPDATE TO 12!
i let the update do its thing, reflashed TWRP and then flashed the patched boot a and b, now i have a rooted android 12. WOOHOO!
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HEY! SO I FLASHED THE STOCK BOOT A AND BOOT B AND THEN IT LET ME UPDATE TO 12!
i let the update do its thing, reflashed TWRP and then flashed the patched boot a and b, now i have a rooted android 12. WOOHOO!
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Yes,that wil work until the next update.If it's modified when the next OTA hits,it will give you the update error.Basically,you just set it back stock and the update works.But,glad you have it worked out.
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Hey friends, I am very new to the rooting scene. I have a at&t htc m8 and i made the mistake of trying to root the fast and easy way. I followed a guide by a user names Unlocker. I would post the link but am unable to at this current time because i am new here
That has it's readers use hasoon2000's all in one toolkit. Well I think I screwed up in that process. when my phone was off and charging , the screen would briefly flash the TWRP ui with their lock screen. So naturally I freaked out tried my best to unroot the damn thing by following a guide created by the same guy after he got many complaints of issues
Naturally I had problems with this aswell. Now where i'm at, at this current moment is
**tampered** ***unlocked**
I successfully (i think) removed super su and did my best to get back to stock firmware. well I failed at that aswell. I still have TWRP on my phone and managed to get security turned back on.
What I am asking is for any references or maybe even some fresh help on how i can either get my phone back to stock firmware so i can take the OTA updates and be on my merry way or maybe reccomend a custom rom I can use that has the new lolipop software.
Now i was looking to update my TWRP but I am unable to locate an AT&T verison. I see sprint , verizon, and GSM. I feel pretty helpless right now but if i can get some instruction I know I will be able to figure this out.
I'm still really new to this also, but I'll try my best (just take everything I say w/ a grain of salt...):
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... when my phone was off and charging , the screen would briefly flash the TWRP ui with their lock screen. ...
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Do you mean that you'd successfully done whatever you were doing and this was happening in normal use? AFAIK it is normal for the the screen to power off during long-running TWRP actions, and power button wakes it up.
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I successfully (i think) removed super su and did my best to get back to stock firmware. well I failed at that aswell. I still have TWRP on my phone and managed to get security turned back on.
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Which firmware do you have on it now? Do you have ADB installed? If so, it might be helpful if you post the output of the command
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fastboot getvar all
. If not, I think you'll need ADB and fastboot to help recover.
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...Now i was looking to update my TWRP but I am unable to locate an AT&T verison. I see sprint , verizon, and GSM ...
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AT&T uses GSM. The GSM version should be correct. Depending on the firmware you have installed, specific versions of twrp may not work. In my case, twrp 2.8.4.0 wouldn't work on AT&T's stock 4.4.2 firmware, but would on the 4.4.4 firmware.
EDIT: Did you make a TWRP backup before attempting these changes? Depending on the state of your firmware, restoring that might be enough to fix things.
AT&T Stock 4.4.4 RUU
This should solve your problem, if you can achieve s-off again:
AT&T Stock 4.4.4 RUU
Krob189 said:
That has it's readers use hasoon2000's all in one toolkit. Well I think I screwed up in that process. when my phone was off and charging , the screen would briefly flash the TWRP ui with their lock screen. So naturally I freaked out tried my best to unroot the damn thing by following a guide created by the same guy after he got many complaints of issues
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All the panic is for nothing. Its normal for the TWRP screen to appear for a brief moment when the device is powered off, and you connect the charger. At least on older versions of TWPR (and the version installed by Hasoon's toolkit is quite old).
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Now i was looking to update my TWRP but I am unable to locate an AT&T verison. I see sprint , verizon, and GSM. I feel pretty helpless right now but if i can get some instruction I know I will be able to figure this out.
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The TWRP version you want is the GSM. All versions of the M8 are essentially the same (and considered "GSM") except for the CDMA (Sprint & Verizon) and dual SIM variants.
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Do you mean that you'd successfully done whatever you were doing and this was happening in normal use? AFAIK it is normal for the the screen to power off during long-running TWRP actions, and power button wakes it up.
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What the OP is describing was a known bug, and happened when outside of recovery and while the phone was powered off (and while connecting the charger).
Wow thank you for fast responses!
So from my understanding I have a outdated TWRP version. I suppose I need to read up on how to update this and also how to flash a new rom. I only rooted my phone so I could pair up my ps3 controller to my phone so I can play games on it. I regret doing it now to be honest because I have modded my 3ds to play the same games i was using on my phone
I would love to be on the lolipop update that launched yesterday I believe. Should I stick to a rooted rom or just flash a stock version? Can anyone recommend a good lolipop root that has some tweaks for battery life and overall performance?
Krob189 said:
So from my understanding I have a outdated TWRP version. I suppose I need to read up on how to update this and also how to flash a new rom.
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Just get the latest version of TWRP from their website. As you are asking what version (CDMA vs. GSM) it sounds like you are already getting there.
It sounds like you have the version of TWRP that was installed by the toolkit. That version is many months old. But its a minor bug, anyway. How often do you charge the phone with it powered off, anyway. I also don't think you can do anything in TWRP in this condition (if a security risk is your concern). The TWRP appears for a split second, and that's it.
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I would love to be on the lolipop update that launched yesterday I believe. Should I stick to a rooted rom or just flash a stock version? Can anyone recommend a good lolipop root that has some tweaks for battery life and overall performance?
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Lollipop didn't launch for AT&T, its just a long-delayed 4.4.4 update for us. To update to 4.4.4, either return to stock ROM and stock recovery to get the OTA, or relock the bootloader and run the official RUU.
Lollipop (5.0) started to roll out for some Euro CIDs, and has been out for US Dev Edition for a while. But you can't get to Sense Lollipop unless you s-off (or until AT&T releases it).
Do we know if the Marshmallow update updates the bootloader?
Our current root method uses an exploited 5.1 system, so it will not work on 6.0. Someone will need to use a similar exploit on the 6.0 system if the exploit does indeed still work.
If the bootloader is not updated with 6.0, we will be able to go back to 5.1 simply by flashing the 5.1 system. If it is updated, we may have lost root for forever. I will stick with 5.1 for now and I will take the Marshmallow update this Sunday if there is no additional information.
Any way to update to MM if you are using a Verizon V10 on AT&T?
jabreu203 said:
Any way to update to MM if you are using a Verizon V10 on AT&T?
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you can use the kdz but it's nowhere to be seen
I'm in the same boat with a T-Mobile sim. Waiting for a kdz to get onto Marshmallow.
If you tell me how I can do it.
Unfortunately I clicked update now. :/ I dont know too much but if you tell me how to discover this info I will definitely tell you if the boot loader is adjusted with the update.
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Unfortunately I clicked update now. :/ I dont know too much but if you tell me how to discover this info I will definitely tell you if the boot loader is adjusted with the update.
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You should be able to find the bootloader version in a benchmark app, then I could do the same
The bootloader does not actually need to be unlocked at all to root the device. All you need is the KDZ file and some experienced hacking to do it. That's how we got root for the V10 anyways.
i have a weird question to ask. i am using att sim card on a Verizon v10. can i flash a kdz att or even the unlocked version system on the Verizon variant ?
If I'm not mistaken the boot loader for the Verizon Lg G3 wasn't unlocked, they just had to work around that.
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If I'm not mistaken the boot loader for the Verizon Lg G3 wasn't unlocked, they just had to work around that.
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I was about to say 'Yes they did, I had twrp and custom roms...' but then I powered it up and remembered they had to use the 'Bump Method' to install twrp alongside the default bootloader and recovery. If you powered on while holding volume down you'd get the default lg recovery, but then if you went to factory reset from there and clicked yes it brought up twrp. So yea, a pretty interesting work around there.
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I was about to say 'Yes they did, I had twrp and custom roms...' but then I powered it up and remembered they had to use the 'Bump Method' to install twrp alongside the default bootloader and recovery. If you powered on while holding volume down you'd get the default lg recovery, but then if you went to factory reset from there and clicked yes it brought up twrp. So yea, a pretty interesting work around there.
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@thecubed @IllegalArgument @autoprime @Shelnutt2 @Dees_Troy
Maybe these devs can help if they are still around and have access to a Verizon LG V10 with root and are willing to spend the time to try and help out this thread...
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@thecubed @IllegalArgument @autoprime @Shelnutt2 @Dees_Troy
Maybe these devs can help if they are still around and have access to a Verizon LG V10 with root and are willing to spend the time to try and help out this thread...
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Lets hope so.....
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@thecubed @IllegalArgument @autoprime @Shelnutt2 @Dees_Troy
Maybe these devs can help if they are still around and have access to a Verizon LG V10 with root and are willing to spend the time to try and help out this thread...
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They might not be so inclined. IIRC, they were rightly agitated when someone open-sourced their work, potentially making it easier for manufacturers to prevent in the future, despite them specifically advising against it.
kjcsg said:
I was about to say 'Yes they did, I had twrp and custom roms...' but then I powered it up and remembered they had to use the 'Bump Method' to install twrp alongside the default bootloader and recovery. If you powered on while holding volume down you'd get the default lg recovery, but then if you went to factory reset from there and clicked yes it brought up twrp. So yea, a pretty interesting work around there.
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The bootloader was still locked, its just that the images were signed to make the boot loader think they were signed.
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The bootloader was still locked, its just that the images were signed to make the boot loader think they were signed.
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And the original recovery was was modified or somehow the bump script hijacked the factory reset process to divert to twrp. I wonder if the bump script can be modified with the correct paths and info such as pplus instead of vs985.
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And the original recovery was was modified or somehow the bump script hijacked the factory reset process to divert to twrp. I wonder if the bump script can be modified with the correct paths and info such as pplus instead of vs985.
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It really wasn't that complicated, honestly. All bump did was sign certain bytes like LG to make the bootloader think TWRP was a truly signed image. The same applied to kernels, or anything else that was bumped. When you flashed the newly bumped recovery image you were literally replacing the factory one.
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It really wasn't that complicated, honestly. All bump did was sign certain bytes like LG to make the bootloader think TWRP was a truly signed image. The same applied to kernels, or anything else that was bumped. When you flashed the newly bumped recovery image you were literally replacing the factory one.
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My only question then is why would they leave the original, the lg recovery, there when you would power on while holding volume down and have to go through the factory reset button to get to twrp instead of just overwriting the original with twrp completely? Not that it matters too much, I just wish I knew how to do it so I could get the vs990 bumped or somehow get twrp on it. But I think I'd need a good bit of exploit schooling to understand it all haha.
I hope we get at least recovery soon, but I've never understood why recoveries never have a text editor included! (and often not even shell access, much less SU shell access!)
Hello guys this guide is for who want to root phone without disabling ota updates.
(BOOTLOODER SHOULD BE UNLOCK)
BIG THANKS FOR MAKING PATCHED BOOT IMg @Jan.Pul
IAM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY CAUSE OF YOUR DEVICE DO IT ON OWN RISK)
1)Download patched boot.img from link below
2)copy that patched boot.img to your adb folder
3) adb debugging should be on and oem unlock should be on for unlock bootlooder
4)turn off your device and go into fastboot mode by pressing holding volume down and power key
5) check whether fastboot detect your device or not by typing this command on (cmd) FASTBOOT DEVICES
6) if fastboot shows that your device is connected your good to go
7) you need to boot into patched boot.img for this type a command FASTBOOT BOOT patched_boot.img your device will boot automatically
8) download magisk manager apk from google and. Open ur magisk manager and install ad direct method and reboot
If you get bootloop dont worry just press your power key for 5sec it will boot automatically
PATCH BOOT IMG : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cU6qOMiHlGdSAbRtMVgTlHummcGksnt6/view?usp=drivesdk
Guessing this is for the Indian/Chinese version and the bnd-l24 is still sitting on the shelf? And rooting without making a backup isn't usually the smartest thing to do but we all know that.
Is there a source this came from by any chance?
Yes..But Why?
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maximran said:
this guide is for who want to root phone without disabling ota updates.
(IAM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR AMY CAUSE OF YOUR DEVICE DO IT ON OWN RISK)
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str8stryk3r said:
rooting without making a backup isn't usually the smartest thing to do but we all know that.
Is there a source this came from by any chance?
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I Eh... Would Love To See This Happen..
I'm... still at a loss to understand why so many people want to root the 7x... Now?
There is an adaway substitute available... ( Search it if you care to ) no root needed.
You can adjust DPI...
You have Themes....
You can remove apps from user view... ( Search it if you care to )
And.... removing unwanted apps WILL NOT free up more RAM.. RAM Management will just fill the allotted space with something else...
You need to make a backup ??? Eh.... Your Stock Software WILL NOT FAIL Unless you are in there messing with it or, are installing illegal apps that are cancering your unit.
Battery Management apps like Greenify? really? how many of you even have to use the Power Saving options already installed in the 7x? I'm getting a day and a half easy.. without using any of the Power Saving options.. YMMV of course.
Oreo is 3 to 4 weeks away.
There still, is No Stock Image Available from Honor to turn to should your Rooting efforts fail you.
So, What possible benefits are you getting by Rooting Nougat Now..
It's YOUR device.. and I wish you the best of luck should you find a reason that you feel justifies the need to root right now..
I'm going to Root my 7x as well... once a Stock Image is available from Honor and, EMUI / OREO 8.0 , The Updated Security Patch and Facial Unlock / AR options are delivered.. That will hold me for the 6 - 7 months I'll own the 7x.
I am just so curious why so many would gamble with Root.. with no clear cut method of being able to recover from a catastrophe.... and no real benefit at this time.
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RaiderWill said:
maximran said:
I Eh... Would Love To See This Happen..
I'm... still at a loss to understand why so many people want to root the 7x... Now?
There is an adaway substitute available... ( Search it if you care to ) no root needed.
You can adjust DPI...
You have Themes....
You can remove apps from user view... ( Search it if you care to )
And.... removing unwanted apps WILL NOT free up more RAM.. RAM Management will just fill the allotted space with something else...
You need to make a backup ??? Eh.... Your Stock Software WILL NOT FAIL Unless you are in there messing with it or, are installing illegal apps that are cancering your unit.
Battery Management apps like Greenify? really? how many of you even have to use the Power Saving options already installed in the 7x? I'm getting a day and a half easy.. without using any of the Power Saving options.. YMMV of course.
Oreo is 3 to 4 weeks away.
There still, is No Stock Image Available from Honor to turn to should your Rooting efforts fail you.
So, What possible benefits are you getting by Rooting Nougat Now..
It's YOUR device.. and I wish you the best of luck should you find a reason that you feel justifies the need to root right now..
I'm going to Root my 7x as well... once a Stock Image is available from Honor and, EMUI / OREO 8.0 , The Updated Security Patch and Facial Unlock / AR options are delivered.. That will hold me for the 6 - 7 months I'll own the 7x.
I am just so curious why so many would gamble with Root.. with no clear cut method of being able to recover from a catastrophe.... and no real benefit at this time.
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Oh I agree with ya. I'm not fooling with mine until a definitive stable method comes out after oreo. I might even hold off until we start getting some custom rooms and kernels. I've unlocked my bootloader and that's about the extent of my Honor 7x modding for the time being.
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A Question Sir..
str8stryk3r said:
RaiderWill said:
Oh I agree with ya. I'm not fooling with mine until a definitive stable method comes out after oreo. I might even hold off until we start getting some custom rooms and kernels. I've unlocked my bootloader and that's about the extent of my Honor 7x modding for the time being.
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Have You Tried "Re-Locking" Your Bootloader.. And Then Doing A Factory Reset?
Just asking because.. I thought.. (And I Could Be 100% WRONG) I read somewhere that, relocking using the command line causes the 7x to brick..
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RaiderWill said:
str8stryk3r said:
Have You Tried "Re-Locking" Your Bootloader.. And Then Doing A Factory Reset?
Just asking because.. I thought.. (And I Could Be 100% WRONG) I read somewhere that, relocking using the command line causes the 7x to brick..
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No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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@maximran, root with Magisk "KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true"; but if I change to "false", should work too?
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RaiderWill said:
No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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True, even I have unlocked my bootloader but I still received OTA.
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@maximran, root with Magisk "KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true"; but if I change to "false", should work too?
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It will not work
Interesting!
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RaiderWill said:
No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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str8stryk3r said:
True, even I have unlocked my bootloader but I still received OTA.
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Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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RaiderWill said:
str8stryk3r said:
Asder.mko said:
Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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Well, I got the OTA in December itself but since I had rooted and installed twrp recovery, I wasn't able to install the update.
Yes, we get that " your device is not secure... Blah blah blah..."
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RaiderWill said:
str8stryk3r said:
Asder.mko said:
Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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Before I went ahead an unlocked my bootloader I checked as many sources as I could about if whether or not I'd still be able ota update and the vast majority of the things I read states that what causes the update to fail is not having stock rom and not having stock recovery. The bootloader being unlocked doesn't modify those or any system files so everything should be fine. Unless Huawei changed things specifically for our Honor 7x then there shouldn't be any problems with ota updates. I guess I'll find out when the L24 people start saying they got updates and I don't receive it or can't install it
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Well, that's quite right. I don't know whether Huawei/Honor implemented THAT thing, but yeah reverting back to stock conditions wand applying OTA wouldn't be an issue!
( P.S - I'm stuck here too as I have OTA update since December but haven't reverted to stock to install it. I don't yet know properly about manual installation! )
(I haven't received my 7x yet and I haven't had any recent experience with Huawei OTA updates and I am not advocating that anyone should alter their phones in any way which would void their warranties... )
However, I was surprised to hear in this forum that Huawei has made things more restrictive since the Mate2. Given that you can still obtain bootloader unlock codes (and the only reason AFAIK is to allow you to flash a new recovery) and that Huawei has publicly committed to open-source and has given 7x's to developers, it seems contrary to a "lockdown" philosophy. Rather, it would appear as they are still encouraging 3rd party development to prolong product lifespan in order to attract cheapskates like me who still use a 4-year old phone.
Things may have changed but In order to get OTA updates, here were some of the issues on the Mate2 :
Some people had a difficult time obtaining the bootloader unlock codes. Either you can get a code or you couldn't. Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't flash a different recovery.
You "can't" flash TWRP. That's not entirely true. You needed to restore the appropriate version of Huawei recovery before each OTA, because update.zip can only be interpreted by the appropriate recovery. (Think format differences between CWM and TWRP.)
You were able to root and still obtain OTA. (Albeit, there was only one OTA. The rest had to be downloaded to SD and flashed. But that was okay back then 'cause no one outside of China really knew about Huawei.) The updates weren't checking whether you had modified the existing software or not. Once you've voided your warranty, Huawei didn't care if you then decide to then make your phone more vulnerable or accidentally brick it. The problem was that the update could fail if you remove a piece of bloatware that Huawei decided to update. (The folders would be missing for example. And the update would not recover gracefully.)
But a big THANKS to previous posters which reminded me to backup everything (basically as soon as I receive my 7x).
Oh....if you are flashing a custom recovery, you should also backup the "stock" recovery after each OTA update. Sometimes the recovery is also updated. (That's what I meant by "appropriate" version.)
iammudd said:
(I haven't received my 7x yet and I haven't had any recent experience with Huawei OTA updates and I am not advocating that anyone should alter their phones in any way which would void their warranties... )
However, I was surprised to hear in this forum that Huawei has made things more restrictive since the Mate2. Given that you can still obtain bootloader unlock codes (and the only reason AFAIK is to allow you to flash a new recovery) and that Huawei has publicly committed to open-source and has given 7x's to developers, it seems contrary to a "lockdown" philosophy. Rather, it would appear as they are still encouraging 3rd party development to prolong product lifespan in order to attract cheapskates like me who still use a 4-year old phone.
Things may have changed but In order to get OTA updates, here were some of the issues on the Mate2 :
Some people had a difficult time obtaining the bootloader unlock codes. Either you can get a code or you couldn't. Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't flash a different recovery.
You "can't" flash TWRP. That's not entirely true. You needed to restore the appropriate version of Huawei recovery before each OTA, because update.zip can only be interpreted by the appropriate recovery. (Think format differences between CWM and TWRP.)
You were able to root and still obtain OTA. (Albeit, there was only one OTA. The rest had to be downloaded to SD and flashed. But that was okay back then 'cause no one outside of China really knew about Huawei.) The updates weren't checking whether you had modified the existing software or not. Once you've voided your warranty, Huawei didn't care if you then decide to then make your phone more vulnerable or accidentally brick it. The problem was that the update could fail if you remove a piece of bloatware that Huawei decided to update. (The folders would be missing for example. And the update would not recover gracefully.)
But a big THANKS to previous posters which reminded me to backup everything (basically as soon as I receive my 7x).
Oh....if you are flashing a custom recovery, you should also backup the "stock" recovery after each OTA update. Sometimes the recovery is also updated. (That's what I meant by "appropriate" version.)
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My thoughts exactly. Why would they provide they website to unlock the bootloader if that kept ota updates from going through. The only thing that's really holding back the development of this device is Huawei hasn't released the full stock firmware package yet. I have the L24 version so it's exciting seeing L21/A10 making some progress because it's only a matter of time until things start to kick off all around.
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My thoughts exactly. Why would they provide they website to unlock the bootloader if that kept ota updates from going through. The only thing that's really holding back the development of this device is Huawei hasn't released the full stock firmware package yet. I have the L24 version so it's exciting seeing L21/A10 making some progress because it's only a matter of time until things start to kick off all around.
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No need for full fw broh need vendor partitions, device tree, kernel sources
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No need for full fw broh need vendor partitions, device tree, kernel sources
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Lmao, and that's why I'm not a developer. I just know having the stock image files is important so that when something gets screwed up got have something to fall back on.
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That Answers My Question As To Wether Or Not You Do See The Unsecure Msg..
Anyway.. Great Discussion.
Fact or Fiction... who will get the updates via O.T.A. ? The Non-Rooted, The Rooted.. or Both.
Even with Project Treble... will this device ever take off with Developer support ?
Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ( Eh, Honor.. it's been 60 days since Kernel source was released.. and you know people are Rooting away.. why have you not released the stock Nougat image for the 7x?) and don't use working on EMUI & OREO as an excuse.. that's simply not good enough.. :angel:
I'm going to enjoy laying back... and watching how this unfolds.
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x.. is there really a need to even Root whats coming without something like a Stable Linage / Franco Kernel combo ROM available vs a 100% stable Factory Fresh EMUI / Oreo 8.0 setup.
For me, it will be a fun to see what key Developers, ROM's and support in general.. the 7x actually gets.. and at what point they release firmware for restoration purposes.
You Just Never Know.
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That Answers My Question As To Wether Or Not You Do See The Unsecure Msg..
Anyway.. Great Discussion.
Fact or Fiction... who will get the updates via O.T.A. ? The Non-Rooted, The Rooted.. or Both.
Even with Project Treble... will this device ever take off with Developer support ?
Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ( Eh, Honor.. it's been 60 days since Kernel source was released.. and you know people are Rooting away.. why have you not released the stock Nougat image for the 7x?) and don't use working on EMUI & OREO as an excuse.. that's simply not good enough.. :angel:
I'm going to enjoy laying back... and watching how this unfolds.
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x.. is there really a need to even Root whats coming without something like a Stable Linage / Franco Kernel combo ROM available vs a 100% stable Factory Fresh EMUI / Oreo 8.0 setup.
For me, it will be a fun to see what key Developers, ROM's and support in general.. the 7x actually gets.. and at what point they release firmware for restoration purposes.
You Just Never Know.
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People like to root and mod their own devices for their own reasons but you're right, a lot of the reasons I modded past devices was because the roms almost always ran better than stock but the 7x imho runs great. Used to be kernels for better battery life and such. I like custom roms because I like to be able to do certain things that stock roms limited as far as customizing goes. A lot of people hate bloat and end up deleting every file on the phone that isn't necessary or to their liking to make the rom as minimal as possible.
But as of now I'm happy with the phone and don't feel the urge to need to root and and a custom recovery. The roms that eventually come would have to offer something worthwhile to flash. But hell, that's subject to change given how I'm feeling that day lol. There's a new AOSP based rom in another thread that sounds promising
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Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ...
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x..
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I assume that you already know this ... but I should mention it for others that you can run TWRP (if there is a version for one's phone) without flashing it. (I don't have my 7x yet, so I prob really shouldn't be trying to give detailed instructions anyways.) From there, you can make backups of the stock image, stock recovery, etc. (So thx again to this forum for reminding me that I should backup all stock images as soon as I receive my 7x so that MY fingerprints are not all over the backups.)
As to rooting, there ARE at least 2 things that Huawei hasn't provided without root:
Yes, I can make app backups (and/or use the Huawei "easy transfer"... not sure what app that is at the moment) but I'd assume that I won't be able to transfer it to a non-Huawei device. That's why I continue to use Titanium Backup.
USB Mass Storage Enabling (and by extension Selinux Passive mode). I want fast transfer to my desktop, etc.... and I want a drive-letter (yes, there are Win programs which only work with drive letters). Without UMS, I haven't found a way to do that.
Hi,
I tried to upgrade my US998 from Oreo to Pie using LGUP patched. The upgrade process went well until the phone restarted and have this error message:
"Your device has failed a routine safety check and will not boot..."
I did try using LG Bridge to fix = not working
I did try fastboot boot laf.img (using extracted laf from H93031a_00_OPEN_EU_OP_1105) not working.
Any other solution?
Thanks
This Post got recommended to me. I am a Samsung user so my answer will probably be very stupid.
If you have fastboot, why don't you flash a recovery and a custom rom? Ik stupid but it's the only thing that comes to my mind since i don't have a LG phone lol
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This Post got recommended to me. I am a Samsung user so my answer will probably be very stupid.
If you have fastboot, why don't you flash a recovery and a custom rom? Ik stupid but it's the only thing that comes to my mind since i don't have a LG phone lol
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Installing TWRP or any recovery wont work for me. The bootloader still locked thou.
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Installing TWRP or any recovery wont work for me. The bootloader still locked thou.
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Is that "Download mode" the same as the Samsung one? How do you NORMALLY access it?
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Is that "Download mode" the same as the Samsung one? How do you NORMALLY access it?
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I'm not sure. Normally I access download mode using volume up and power button. The download mode was there for a sec and then the screen back to
"Your device has failed a routine safety check and will not boot..."
again.
Ah ok so now I understand.
But why don't you unlock your bootloader then if fastboot works? Do you know for sure that TWRP doesn't work?
I really want to help but I don't have a LG phone
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Ah ok so now I understand.
But why don't you unlock your bootloader then if fastboot works? Do you know for sure that TWRP doesn't work?
I really want to help but I don't have a LG phone
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EDIT: The LG Bootloader unlocking page is "under construction". Guess you have to bring your phone to LG for them to fix this...
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Unfortunately my LG V30 is US region. The official bootloader site not support my phone. Thanks for your info anyway
I'm not sure why a Samsung user was recommended this post. And no offense to the Samsung user, but the process for unlocking, etc is VERY different for Samsung than it is for LG... so I recommend not worrying about that. Believe me, I know, because I'm researching switching to a Samsung in the future, and the process is very different!
That being said, the best resource here is the WTF thread with the post by ChazzMatt. That post has everything you need in one place.
jacoozie, the error you're getting indicates that you had a non-stock phone when you flashed the KDZ on an unlocked phone. For this reason, it's no surprise you got this error - the phone must be COMPLETELY STOCK for a stock KDZ flash. I'm guessing you had TWRP or something else installed, which is causing this problem. Once you unlock, you cannot just flash things willy nilly... and generally you don't flash with KDZ unless you're trying to change models (aka Frankenstein) or on the way to a custom ROM.
It sounds like you've done some unlocking rooting... if so, I recommend you start over with the WTF thread, read it VERY CAREFULLY and ENTIRELY and then reflash as instructed there. I'm guessing you may need to go back to KDZ Nougat and then work your way forward. If you have questions, ask in that thread... but you shouldn't have any questions as the thread is VERY complete (been updated all the time with very detailed information, so everything is in there).
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I'm not sure why a Samsung user was recommended this post. And no offense to the Samsung user, but the process for unlocking, etc is VERY different for Samsung than it is for LG... so I recommend not worrying about that. Believe me, I know, because I'm researching switching to a Samsung in the future, and the process is very different!
That being said, the best resource here is the WTF thread with the post by ChazzMatt. That post has everything you need in one place.
jacoozie, the error you're getting indicates that you had a non-stock phone when you flashed the KDZ on an unlocked phone. For this reason, it's no surprise you got this error - the phone must be COMPLETELY STOCK for a stock KDZ flash. I'm guessing you had TWRP or something else installed, which is causing this problem. Once you unlock, you cannot just flash things willy nilly... and generally you don't flash with KDZ unless you're trying to change models (aka Frankenstein) or on the way to a custom ROM.
It sounds like you've done some unlocking rooting... if so, I recommend you start over with the WTF thread, read it VERY CAREFULLY and ENTIRELY and then reflash as instructed there. I'm guessing you may need to go back to KDZ Nougat and then work your way forward. If you have questions, ask in that thread... but you shouldn't have any questions as the thread is VERY complete (been updated all the time with very detailed information, so everything is in there).
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Thanks for the reply.
I didnt install TWRP or any recovery tools to my phone. My phone bootloader still locked thou.
I have read the WTF thread but the problem is I cant get into my Download mode.
Ok, what steps are you using to try to get into download mode? Presumably turning off the phone, then holding the volume up button and plugging in the USB cable (other end already connected to a Windows computer), correct? If that doesn't work, can you try other USB cables? Sometimes a bad cable could prevent the phone from going into download mode.
It looks like A10 incremental is now available for Global. Anyone know why/where to get the full update?
With unlocked bootloader and root, incrementals won't work.
I may need to lock my bootloader and no longer root to be able to stay in the latest...
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It looks like A10 incremental is now available for Global. Anyone know why/where to get the full update?
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So most people I know aren't rooting phones anymore at the point in time it's kind of pointless there's way too much security against it with almost every phone besides for the Google pixel onepluses was the only company that supported it but now they don't either so if I were you I would in the Google source code for Android the website you can find a flash tool that makes images from your phone's current running images
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So most people I know aren't rooting phones anymore at the point in time it's kind of pointless there's way too much security against it with almost every phone besides for the Google pixel onepluses was the only company that supported it but now they don't either so if I were you I would in the Google source code for Android the website you can find a flash tool that makes images from your phone's current running images
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I really like Viper4Android, so root is still valuable for me.
Though, I never heard of this tool you speak of. I will have to look into that! Thanks!
They have more than one, so the problem is they have so much software on their suppository I've spent the last month and a half digging through there and I've only found five things that may do what I need I just haven't had time to try them out but why I still have free time I've been looking into more ways just in case the ones I'm planning on trying but I'm pretty sure I can do it once I actually get to sit down and do it.
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With unlocked bootloader and root, incrementals won't work.
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I posted instructions here that I used for the last update. I will be trying them shortly with this latest update.
Root 10T 5G
I've just received today the 10T 5G CPH2415. I unlocked the bootloader in the same way as the Oneplus 10Pro in settigs OEM unlock and ADB Debug. by Powershell: adb devices Adb reboot bootloader fastboot devices fastboot flashing unlock in...
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Edit: It worked fine, I just updated one of my 10T's. I used boot image from EU A10 update and patched it with Magisk on the phone.